Re: Stus-List feckless meanderings - Dylan

2017-08-02 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Two good boat names there.
Mystery Tramp and Alibi.
J

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> On Aug 1, 2017, at 7:43 PM, sender via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Ahhh... so maybe Bob Dylan was a Yacht Broker before got into music??
> 
> You say you never compromise
> With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
> He's not selling any alibis
> As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
> And say: Do you want to make a deal?
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Boots Of Spanish Leather
>> WRITTEN BY: BOB DYLAN 
>> Oh, I’m sailin’ away my own true love
>> I’m sailin’ away in the morning
>> Is there something I can send you from across the sea
>> From the place that I’ll be landing?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2017, at 4:33 PM, G Collins via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The song Mr. Tambourine Man does have the line "take me on a trip upon your 
>>> magic swirlin' ship", and there is a C here with the name Magic Swirlin' 
>>> Ship
>>> Graham Collins
>>> Secret Plans
>>> C 35-III #11
 On 2017-07-30 1:46 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
 "I am younger than that now."
 
 Must be a Dylan fan.
 Does he have any songs about sailboats?  Anything we can adapt to old C?
 Finally had a day under 90 F friday and went out sailing.  Winds at 20 
 with gusts as high as 28mph; used my 160% genny only and it was a great 
 choice, although tacking took a while.  Once through the tack, the wind 
 just kept blowing the bow down.  Had to gain speed and nurse it back to 
 windward.  Downwind was a blast!
 Ron
 Wild Cheri
 C 30-1
 STL
 
 From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 Cc: Dennis C. 
 Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws
 
 Too funny. After my post favoring SS rivets, I get to Touché today to see 
 1/4 inch Phillips machine screws on the vang bracket. :)
 
 Well, it was many years ago when I installed it; I am younger than that 
 now. 
 
 Dennis C.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 
 One thing to remember about the Garhauer vang is that the attachment to 
 both the mast and the boom are custom made for the boat (you send them the 
 profile of the mast and boom when you order the vang), and the plates 
 attached to the mast and boom wrap significantly around the spars. (On my 
 25 about half of the boom is cradled in the attached plate. ) So the 
 fasteners connecting the plate to the spar are under primarily shear 
 loading, not tensile.
  
 For this sort of configuration, the additional cross section of the 
 machine screw (or cap screw, if you use  those) would seem the better 
 choice. If, however, you have something like a Boomkicker, or a vang with 
 “generic” mounting plates that don’t curve around the spars, rivets might 
 be a better choice.
  
 Rick Brass
 Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
 la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
 Washington, NC
  
 BTW, both have Garhauer vangs.
  
 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List feckless meanderings - Dylan

2017-08-01 Thread sender via CnC-List
Ahhh... so maybe Bob Dylan was a Yacht Broker before got into music??

You say you never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He's not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And say: Do you want to make a deal?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Boots Of Spanish Leather
> WRITTEN BY: BOB DYLAN
> Oh, I’m sailin’ away my own true love
> I’m sailin’ away in the morning
> Is there something I can send you from across the sea
> From the place that I’ll be landing?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 30, 2017, at 4:33 PM, G Collins via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> The song Mr. Tambourine Man does have the line "take me on a trip upon
> your magic swirlin' ship", and there is a C here with the name Magic
> Swirlin' Ship
>
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
>
> On 2017-07-30 1:46 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
>
> "I am younger than that now."
>
> Must be a Dylan fan.
> Does he have any songs about sailboats?  Anything we can adapt to old C?
> Finally had a day under 90 F friday and went out sailing.  Winds at 20
> with gusts as high as 28mph; used my 160% genny only and it was a great
> choice, although tacking took a while.  Once through the tack, the wind
> just kept blowing the bow down.  Had to gain speed and nurse it back to
> windward.  Downwind was a blast!
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C 30-1
> STL
>
> --
> *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dennis C.  
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 29, 2017 5:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws
>
> Too funny. After my post favoring SS rivets, I get to Touché today to see
> 1/4 inch Phillips machine screws on the vang bracket. :)
>
> Well, it was many years ago when I installed it; I am younger than that
> now.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> One thing to remember about the Garhauer vang is that the attachment to
> both the mast and the boom are custom made for the boat (you send them the
> profile of the mast and boom when you order the vang), and the plates
> attached to the mast and boom wrap significantly around the spars. (On my
> 25 about half of the boom is cradled in the attached plate. ) So the
> fasteners connecting the plate to the spar are under primarily shear
> loading, not tensile.
>
> For this sort of configuration, the additional cross section of the
> machine screw (or cap screw, if you use those) would seem the better
> choice. If, however, you have something like a Boomkicker, or a vang with
> “generic” mounting plates that don’t curve around the spars, rivets might
> be a better choice.
>
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
> la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
> Washington, NC
>
> BTW, both have Garhauer vangs.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List feckless meanderings - Dylan

2017-07-30 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
Boots Of Spanish Leather
WRITTEN BY: BOB DYLAN 
Oh, I’m sailin’ away my own true love
I’m sailin’ away in the morning
Is there something I can send you from across the sea
From the place that I’ll be landing?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2017, at 4:33 PM, G Collins via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> The song Mr. Tambourine Man does have the line "take me on a trip upon your 
> magic swirlin' ship", and there is a C here with the name Magic Swirlin' 
> Ship
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
>> On 2017-07-30 1:46 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
>> "I am younger than that now."
>> 
>> Must be a Dylan fan.
>> Does he have any songs about sailboats?  Anything we can adapt to old C?
>> Finally had a day under 90 F friday and went out sailing.  Winds at 20 with 
>> gusts as high as 28mph; used my 160% genny only and it was a great choice, 
>> although tacking took a while.  Once through the tack, the wind just kept 
>> blowing the bow down.  Had to gain speed and nurse it back to windward.  
>> Downwind was a blast!
>> Ron
>> Wild Cheri
>> C 30-1
>> STL
>> 
>> From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Dennis C. 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 5:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws
>> 
>> Too funny. After my post favoring SS rivets, I get to Touché today to see 
>> 1/4 inch Phillips machine screws on the vang bracket. :)
>> 
>> Well, it was many years ago when I installed it; I am younger than that now. 
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> One thing to remember about the Garhauer vang is that the attachment to both 
>> the mast and the boom are custom made for the boat (you send them the 
>> profile of the mast and boom when you order the vang), and the plates 
>> attached to the mast and boom wrap significantly around the spars. (On my 25 
>> about half of the boom is cradled in the attached plate. ) So the fasteners 
>> connecting the plate to the spar are under primarily shear loading, not 
>> tensile.
>>  
>> For this sort of configuration, the additional cross section of the machine 
>> screw (or cap screw, if you use those) would seem the better choice. If, 
>> however, you have something like a Boomkicker, or a vang with “generic” 
>> mounting plates that don’t curve around the spars, rivets might be a better 
>> choice.
>>  
>> Rick Brass
>> Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
>> la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
>> Washington, NC
>>  
>> BTW, both have Garhauer vangs.
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List feckless meanderings - Dylan

2017-07-30 Thread G Collins via CnC-List
The song Mr. Tambourine Man does have the line "take me on a trip upon your 
magic swirlin' ship", and there is a C here with the name Magic Swirlin' Ship

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2017-07-30 1:46 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
"I am younger than that now."

Must be a Dylan fan.
Does he have any songs about sailboats?  Anything we can adapt to old C?
Finally had a day under 90 F friday and went out sailing.  Winds at 20 with 
gusts as high as 28mph; used my 160% genny only and it was a great choice, 
although tacking took a while.  Once through the tack, the wind just kept 
blowing the bow down.  Had to gain speed and nurse it back to windward.  
Downwind was a blast!
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL


From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dennis C. 
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid boom vangs - rivets vs screws

Too funny. After my post favoring SS rivets, I get to Touché today to see 1/4 
inch Phillips machine screws on the vang bracket. :)

Well, it was many years ago when I installed it; I am younger than that now.

Dennis C.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
> wrote:

One thing to remember about the Garhauer vang is that the attachment to both 
the mast and the boom are custom made for the boat (you send them the profile 
of the mast and boom when you order the vang), and the plates attached to the 
mast and boom wrap significantly around the spars. (On my 25 about half of the 
boom is cradled in the attached plate. ) So the fasteners connecting the plate 
to the spar are under primarily shear loading, not tensile.

For this sort of configuration, the additional cross section of the machine 
screw (or cap screw, if you use those) would seem the better choice. If, 
however, you have something like a Boomkicker, or a vang with “generic” 
mounting plates that don’t curve around the spars, rivets might be a better 
choice.

Rick Brass
Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
Washington, NC

BTW, both have Garhauer vangs.





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