Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-03 Thread Mark Minner-lee
It’s been forever since I’ve seen such a passionate conversation about a birding topic so I’ll throw my two cents in.1.  Call the birds whatever you want, my priority in life is to enjoy them and advocate for their continued existence.  The name in my humble opinion the name has only been a marker of distinction not of importance.  2. If people are truly not interested in helping with conservation/protection over the name of a bird then they are already not focused on helping birds anyway.  Changing the name isn’t going to make a difference in driving their ultimate support.3.  Let’s stop stepping over hundred dollar bills to pick up pennies - there are a multitude of issues with more significance and impact that we can devote our energy to if it is the welfare or birds that we are truly interested in.    Let’s make the changes and move on to bigger and better things!In other words at the end of the day just go out and keep enjoying birds while they are still here - the names do not matter.Regards,Mark Minner-LeeErie, COSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 3, 2023, at 9:19 AM, Susan Rosine  wrote:I would vote for Marsh Hawk, Sunrise Phoebe and Stellar Jay! I would also like Rufous-sided Towhee back. The ones in the Pacific Northwest aren't very spotted, and have more rufous than ones in Colorado. Susan Rosine Brighton On Fri, Nov 3, 2023, 9:10 AM Peter Ruprecht  wrote:Megan's suggestion for a wonderfully lyrical new name for our "dryland phoebe" delights me. A descriptive name is an improvement over an eponym, but a descriptive name that poetically celebrates the essence of the bird is even better. "Thick-billed" certainly beats "McCown's", but does it really do justice to a bird whose buoyant song-flight over an open prairie at dawn is a true wonder of nature? Perhaps we can follow the example of the odonates community who standardized the common names for dragonflies with creative and mellifluous ones like "boghaunter" and "sundragon".If we think about naming a species for its habitat, let's keep in mind that its breeding habitat or the area that we most associate with it might not be where it lives for most of the year. In Colorado, Lincoln's Sparrow could accurately be called Willow Sparrow, but that might be confusing to people who see it in its nonbreeding range (where it spends the majority of its time). Similarly with Baird's -> Tundra Sandpiper.We may also want to consider the current preferred names for parts of a bird, particularly the upper front of the torso. These days, something like "Crescent-chested" sounds better to a lot of people than "Buff-breasted".Finally, while we're at it, could we please consider reverting Northern Harrier to Marsh Hawk? :)Peter RuprechtSuperiorOn Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 11:04 PM Megan Miller  wrote:I am a freshly minted 31 year old and I have been part of Colorados birding community for around 20 years. I grew up here, found my passion for birds and wildlife here, and built a career out of it. It was very difficult and now that I am here the path forward doesn’t feel any easier. We still have great challenges to overcome to create a better planet for birds and people. A few years ago when discussion about changing bird names moved through twitter and instagram I was also initially hesitant. I love Wilson’s Warblers with all of my heart. But the more I learned about some (but not all) of the men that described these species the more it seemed that they were murderers first and avian hobbyists on the side. I think there are plenty of platforms to remember the people who described and categorized all these birds and it’s time to move on to new naming conventions. I know for a lot of younger birders this feels important because we feel we have so little power the change our world for the better. It feels like a tiny step to building a community fitting to our and future generations. I do think it’s inevitable and it is only a small change considering the changes that could face us in the coming years. I think Says Phoebe should be called Sunrise Phoebe. Megan MillerPueblo, Co 




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Re: [cobirds] White Ibis, Golden Ponds, Longmont, Boulder Co.

2022-05-30 Thread Mark Minner-lee
As of 5:20 the Ibis flew back to Golden Ponds landing with the Cormorants on 
the southern island of the middle pond.  

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Erie, CO

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> On May 30, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Todd Deininger  wrote:
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> 
> Still there as of 3pm, walk the trail south over the river south. Once even 
> with the second large power pole after the river look east to the private 
> pond to the little sand bar in the pond.
> 40.165361, -105.141004
> I tied some grass to the fence at the location. It is about 1/2 mile from the 
> parking lot.
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[cobirds] Palm Warbler - Sawhill Pond #5, Boulder County

2021-05-04 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Palm Warbler still on north side of Sawhill Pond #5 very cooperative, wagging 
tail.

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Re: [cobirds] Re: ID of Clark’s vs Western at Sterns Lake (Boulder County)

2021-04-11 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Thanks to all for the helpful descriptions and information.

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Erie, CO

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> On Apr 11, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Adam Vesely  wrote:
> 
> Mlodinow and Leukering (2018) wrote a fantastic and informative piece in 
> Colorado Birds about identification of Western and Clark's Grebes along with 
> thorough discussion of hybrids. Not sure if this link will work, but try this:
> 
> https://cobirds.org/Publications/ColoradoBirds/InTheScope/84.pdf
> 
> Adam Vesely
> Thornton, CO 
> 
>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 11:20:26 AM UTC-6 Mark Minner-lee wrote:
>> If anyone has been out to see the Western and possible Clark’s Grebes at 
>> Stern’s Lake (Boulder County) I’d love some thoughts on how you determined a 
>> Clark’s ID. Additional commentary also welcome from others who would like to 
>> lend their expertise. 
>> 
>> The two grebes I saw both fit Western or Intermediate but not Clark’s. 
>> Flanks on both birds were dark (suggesting Western). Bill color wasn’t 
>> different. Both birds had eyes clearly with the dark supercillium area, with 
>> the suspected Clark’s having some white in the lores. 
>> 
>> Thoughts? 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> 
>> Mark Minner-lee 
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[cobirds] ID of Clark’s vs Western at Sterns Lake (Boulder County)

2021-04-11 Thread Mark Minner-lee
If anyone has been out to see the Western and possible Clark’s Grebes at 
Stern’s Lake (Boulder County) I’d love some thoughts on how you determined a 
Clark’s ID.  Additional commentary also welcome from others who would like to 
lend their expertise.

The two grebes I saw both fit Western or Intermediate but not Clark’s.   Flanks 
on both birds were dark (suggesting Western).  Bill color wasn’t different.  
Both birds had eyes clearly with the dark supercillium area, with the suspected 
Clark’s having some white in the lores.

Thoughts?

Regards,

Mark Minner-lee 
Erie, CO

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Re: [cobirds] Caspian Terns, Lagerman Reservoir, Boulder

2020-06-14 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Caspian Tern has returned to Lagerman presently at 12:08 PM.

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Mark Minner-Lee
Erie, CO

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> On Jun 14, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Thomas Heinrich  wrote:
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> The Caspian Tern just flew about 5-10 min ago, headed north over the Open 
> Sky Loop. 
> Thanks for the reports Diane and Graham!
> 
> 
> Thomas Heinrich
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>> On Jun 14, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Ray, Graham  wrote:
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>> I am at Lagerman Reservoir now (Sunday 9am) and the Caspian Tern is still 
>> here!  Thanks Diane!
>> From: cobirds@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Diane 
>> Roberts 
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 5:02 PM
>> To: Colorado Birds 
>> Subject: [cobirds] Caspian Terns, Lagerman Reservoir, Boulder
>>  
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Please excuse my prior posting. It was my roadside, cell phone, excited, 
>> rushed, no reading glasses attempt to share this handsome pair! I hope I can 
>> still count them! 
>> 
>> Diane Roberts 
>> Highlands Ranch, CO 
>> 
>> 
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[cobirds] Yellow-Throated Vireo / Black-and-White Warbler continuing - CU East Campus, Boulder Cty

2020-05-09 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Yellow-throated vireo was calling and seen just west of athletic fields on 
south side of creek.  Black-and-white warbler moving along south side of creek 
to the east.

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Erie, CO

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[cobirds] Ash-throated Flycatcher - CU East Campus, Boulder Cty

2020-05-08 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Ash-throated Flycatcher seen 15mins ago along north side of Boulder Creek just 
east of the bridge by the athletic fields.

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Mark Minner-Lee
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Re: [cobirds] Northern Parula Warbler, Waneka Lake, Lafayette, CO

2020-04-30 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Northern Parula still present as of 4:05 PM in southwest corner of Waneka 
hanging with orange-crowneds and yellow-rumpeds.

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Mark Minner-Lee
Erie, CO

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> On Apr 30, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Curt Brown --- Boulder, CO 
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> High in the trees, southwest corner of the Lake.  The area between the lake 
> and Greenlee preserve was just crawling with yellow-rumps and orange-crown 
> warblers this AM, particularly on the chokecherry bushes.
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Re: [cobirds] Interpretation of state-wide Public Health Order

2020-03-29 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Hi everyone,

Good points of clarification to be sure, but I would advise everyone to be 
conservative here.  The farther away you go the greater the odds are you’ll 
need to have an interaction that could possibly involve transfer (stopping for 
gas, visiting a restroom, going into a grocery store, etc.).   This may appear 
to be miniscule, but it is exactly these types of accumulating interactions 
that promote spread.  Local birding can remove the majority of these situations.

Additionally I’d like to put a focus on the obvious here.  Just because an 
event is permissible doesn’t mean we should consider it not harmful.   We 
should all consider minimizing any travel outside right now to reduce spread.  
Birding is certainly a low risk activity, but given the increased numbers of 
people going outside to areas that are commonly birded it is not a no risk 
activity.

I know that this is disappointing to read and perhaps even maddening to some, 
but as a health care professional I have seen how small behaviors and tiny 
changes can have huge positive/negative impacts on a larger scale.  Most of us 
have fabulous locations within 10-15 mins of our homes and  I am certain that 
most of us wouldn’t face extreme hardship by cutting back on a couple 
excursions each week.   

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Erie, CO

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> On Mar 29, 2020, at 5:45 AM, Gary Brower  wrote:
> 
> Read all the way through the article.  It is aimed at DENVER residents.  
> Here’s the appropriate sentence (from the article, anyway)— the next-to-last 
> “paragraph”:
> 
> You might be thinking, “Well hold on a second, Gov. Jared Polis said hiking 
> was fine!” Unfortunately for Denver residents, the stricter restrictions are 
> what apply, so in this particular case, the city and county order trumps the 
> statewide order.
> 
> The State’s order (under “Definitions”) reads:
> 
> 3. Engaging in outdoor activity, such as, by way of example and without 
> limitation,
> walking, hiking, nordic skiing, snowshoeing, biking or running. For purposes 
> of
> outdoor activity, State parks will remain open to the public to engage in 
> walking,
> hiking, biking, running, and similar outdoor activities but all playgrounds, 
> picnic
> areas, other similar areas conducive to public gathering, and attended areas 
> shall
> be closed. Additionally, the permitted outdoor activities in this PHO do not
> include activities that would violate the Social Distancing Requirements
> 
> If there is another, more authoritative, ruling (than “TheKnow”), I’ll be 
> welcome to hear/read it.  In the meantime, I’ll stick with Polis’ order, not 
> Hancock’s. But, the state’s order replaces both Boulder County’s, as well as 
> the Ti-County Health Department’s orders.
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County (thankfully!)
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Thomas Heinrich  wrote:
>> 
>> Just happened to find this relevant article on the Denver Post website:
>> 
>> https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/03/26/hiking-mountains-denver-stay-at-home-order/236219/
>> 
>> Thomas Heinrich
>> nyc...@aol.com
>> Boulder, CO
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:55 PM Susan Rosine  wrote:
>>> I was not aware of that restriction. I thought you could travel anywhere to 
>>> exercise, which includes birding. I thought that's why the state parks were 
>>> still open. 
>>> So people in the mountains can't go to the plains, and vice versa? Like how 
>>> far away from your town can you go? I've seen nothing about that. 
>>> I stay sooo far away from people all the time, and I have left the city 
>>> limits.
>>> Susan Rosine
>>> Brighton
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[cobirds] Tundra Swans - Valmont Res, Boulder Cty

2019-12-08 Thread Mark Minner-lee
8 Tundra Swans present on open water at the Valmont Reservoir complex.  Best 
seen from the overlook with a scope.

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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[cobirds] Pacific Loon - Boulder Reservoir, Boulder Cty

2019-11-25 Thread Mark Minner-lee
The Pacific Loon found yesterday at Boulder Reservoir continues this morning 
along the east side with excellent views from the dam.

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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[cobirds] Red Phalarope discussion

2019-09-01 Thread Mark Minner-lee
For all the folks that were able to see the suspected Red Phalarope I would 
love your thoughts on how you came to your ID.  I have reviewed multiple 
pictures and have a hard time making an ID one way or the other.

The bill at a distance certainly appears somewhat thicker, but not conclusively 
when closer photos show somewhat of a more needle-like appearance.  
Additionally there is brown mottling on the back which lends itself to being a 
red-necked (Juv).  That being said I wasn’t able to find white edges to flight 
feathers that would be found on a juvenile red-necked.

I have little experience with this species so thanks in advance if I am making 
any incorrect assessments here and certainly if there are other accepted 
marks/behaviors that I should have looked for please share for the benefit of 
all.

Happy birding-

Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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[cobirds] Palm Warbler still present - Golden Ponds, Longmont, CO - Boulder Cty

2019-05-08 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Palm warbler seen previously just re-seen at the Golden Ponds just before the 
bridge on the south side of the park.  In a large group of yellow-rumped’s.

Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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[cobirds] Cancelled - Wild Goose chase #3

2019-01-29 Thread Mark Minner-lee
The Wild Goose chase at Walker Ranch for Feb 2 has been cancelled - an updated 
schedule will be out shortly.

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
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Re: [cobirds] Varied Thrush - Boulder County

2019-01-25 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Varied Thrush female is being seen now in trees on Bosque Ct just south of 
Corriente (12:15 PM) after being refound by Ernest Crvich earlier this morning. 
 eBird tracks it to 3896 Bosque Ct, Boulder, CO if anyone needs an address for 
directions.

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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> On Jan 24, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Ernest Crvich  wrote:
> 
> Varied Thrush in Boulder County this morning, around noon near Pleasant View 
> Marsh, on ground and in trees in various yards on Bosque Ct just off the 
> creek trail. Hard to say if it's still in the area or not. 
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Re: [cobirds] Blackburnian re-found

2018-11-15 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Joe & Birders,

I last saw the Blackburnian on Airport Rd on the east side of the street just 
north of what on the map is named “Dry Creek”.  There is a bike/walking 
underpass that goes under Airport Rd by the creek.  There were numerous groups 
of pines along this stretch north all the way back to Staghorn where it flew 
to.  I last saw it in a cluster of pines that was right north of the 
bike/walking path as the path headed east. 

The Blackburnian was mainly heading south in its flights, but did double back a 
couple times north along the road.

Hope that helps-

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO



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> On Nov 15, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Joe Roller  wrote:
> 
> I see there are not many cross streets, but is there some other way of 
> describing where you saw 
> it along Airport Rd? I presume on east side of Air[ort Rd.
> 
> Thanks, Joe Roller
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 4:05 PM Joe Roller  wrote:
>> Mark, what was the nearest cross street on Airport Blvd when 
>> you saw it, please?
>> 
>> Joe Roller
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 2:18 PM Mark Minner-lee  
>>> wrote:
>>> Blackburnian moving from pine group to pine group along Airport Rd south of 
>>> sightings this morning.  Just saw as recently as 2:10PM.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mark Minner-Lee
>>> Broomfield, CO
>>> 
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[cobirds] Blackburnian re-found

2018-11-15 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Blackburnian moving from pine group to pine group along Airport Rd south of 
sightings this morning.  Just saw as recently as 2:10PM.

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Broomfield, CO

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[cobirds] Palm Warbler continues - CU East Campus/Skunk Creek - Boulder County

2018-10-16 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Palm warbler currently being viewed just south of Space Sciences building in 
pines in the parking lot.  Has continued in the general area for last 60-75 
mins.

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Mark Minner-Lee
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[cobirds] Willow Flycatcher, Least Flycatcher, and Plumbeous Vireo - CU East Campus, Boulder Cty

2018-05-07 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Lots of empids just east of athletic fields along with both plumbeous and 
cassin’s vireos.

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Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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[cobirds] Cassin’s Vireo, Gray Flycatcher - CU East Campus, Boulder Cty

2018-05-07 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Healthy number of birds moving through trees and understory east of athletic 
fields.  Gray Flycatcher and Cassin’s Vireo calling right now-

Mark Minner-Lee
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[cobirds] Townsend’s Warbler - CU East Campus, Boulder Cty

2018-05-02 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Townsend’s Warbler still present on CU East Campus just east of the athletic 
fields along Boulder Creek path.  

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Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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[cobirds] Glossy ibis - Waneka/Greenlee Preserve, Boulder Cty

2018-04-29 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Glossy ibis seen by Ted Floyd this morning at Greenlee Preserve is still 
present as of 10:05 AM.

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Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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[cobirds] Wilson’s Phalaropes - Lagerman Res., Boulder County

2018-04-21 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Lagerman Res continues to have some interesting inhabitants - besides peeps 
that come and go FOY Wilson’s Phalaropes and Sage Thrasher.

Around 1:30 at Boulder Res - 12 Marbled Godwits, but no Long-billed Curlew.

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
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Re: [cobirds] basemar trap

2017-11-13 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Black-throated Blue still being observed along skunk creek and Basemar by many 
as of 4:00 PM.  Varied Thrush absent-

Regards,  

Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:09 PM, William H Kaempfer 
> <william.kaemp...@colorado.edu> wrote:
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> Shortly afterwards I saw a Black-throated Gray Warbler with Black-capped 
> Chickadees South of the apartment building that's South of Skunk Creek.
> 
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> Sent via my Samsung Galaxy, an AT 4G LTE smartphone
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>  Original message 
> From: William H Kaempfer <william.kaemp...@colorado.edu>
> Date: 11/13/17 12:21 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: cobirds@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cobirds] basemar trap
> 
> 
> the skunk creek spot now has an adult male Black-throated Blue Warbler 
> 
> Bill Kaempfer
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Re: [cobirds] Varied Thrush, Boulder

2017-11-13 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Varied Thrush still scurrying around creek just north of 27th way at 9:15AM.

Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Broomfield, CO

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> On Nov 13, 2017, at 8:22 AM, Peter Gent <g...@ucar.edu> wrote:
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> All, 
> 
> Between 8 and 8:10am the male Varied Thrush was in the previously reported 
> location in Skunk Creek behind (south of) the Basemar Shopping Center in 
> Boulder. It was about halfway between Broadway and 27th Way, and there are 
> some parking places behind Goodwill and some other Basemar shops that are 
> very close. 
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> Cheers,  Peter Gent. 
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[cobirds] Tundra Swans - Sterns Lake, Boulder County

2017-11-09 Thread Mark Minner-lee
3 adults and 4 immature gliding peacefully.  Might cross over to Broomfield 
County at some point.

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Re: [cobirds] Unidentified Hummingbird (Possible Female Magnificent?) / Boulder County

2014-10-28 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Hi everyone - here are some links to some photos of the HB from this
morning.  Don't know if it will help the decide the discussion, but there
is plenty of detail in the photos.

https://flic.kr/p/oUjaRd
https://flic.kr/p/pyHD13

Mark Minner-Lee
Superior, CO

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Diana Beatty otowi33...@gmail.com wrote:

 To me, the length and curve of the beak seems more consistent with
 Magnificent?

 Diana Beatty
 Security

 On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:27 AM, 'barredowl' via Colorado Birds 
 cobirds@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Looks like a Blue-throated to me also.  Can't see rufous on a Mag, but in
 one picture I felt I saw much rusty on back and wings.  More pictures,
 please :)

 Jonelle Balais
 Littleton

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[cobirds] Re: Chukar present - Broomfield, CO 2/24

2014-02-24 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Here are some of the photos I took of the Chukar

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92595757@N08/12749848375/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92595757@N08/12750324924/

Mark Minner-Lee
Superior, CO


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Mark R markrminner...@gmail.com wrote:

 Birders,

 The recently viewed Chukar is present this AM at the little gravel
 alleyway just north of the winery on Teller St in Broomfield (117th and
 Teller just South of 120th about .5 miles).

 Have pictures that I will post later this afternoon.

 Regards,

 Mark Minner-Lee
 Superior, CO

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[cobirds] Boulder Reservoir Mountain Plover

2013-04-19 Thread Mark Minner-lee
Hi Cobirders-

I don't normally post but came across a head-scratcher while doing some
viewing this afternoon up at Boulder Reservoir - A Mountain Plover.  I was
under the impression that Mountain Plovers had generally not been seen in
Boulder County in recent times due to habitat loss, and certainly didn't
expect one near a shoreline.

If anyone is interested in checking for themselves the bird was on the
north shore of the reservoir in sandy mudflats along with some other peeps,
a few yellowlegs, and several American Avocets.

As an aside the ibises seen by Dowell were not present this afternoon.


Regards,

Mark Minner-Lee
Superior, CO

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