Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-15 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 14 March 2003 21:46, Steven Noels wrote:
 Your thoughts, please: what kind of policy would you come up with, or
 are willing to live up to?

IP address blocking is no good. A lot of people have dynamic IPs (either by 
dial-up or ADSL).

I favour a simple self-registration, with email address as user name (so that 
the community can bombard the intruder with hate mail - just kidding).

Niclas

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Re: HostSelector

2003-03-15 Thread Niclas Hedhman

I believe that there is something wrong in your Tomcat setup.

I have exactly the same Sitemap fragments, but using VirtualHost in Apache WS, 
and passing through Tomcat without change to the default configuration.

And that setup works well.



On Friday 14 March 2003 23:09, Kevin McDermott wrote:
 I'm running Cocoon 2.0.4 on IBMJDK 1.3.1.

 I've got Apache NameVirtualHosting, onto Tomcat 4.1.18, which is mapped to
 the same Cocoon instance.

 My sitemap.xmap has been stripped down and I've entered the following host
 setup

map:selector logger=sitemap.selector.host name=host
 src=org.apache.cocoon.selection.HostSelector/ host name=poc1
 value=poc1.mydomain.com/
 host name=poc2 value=poc2.mydomain.com/
   /map:selectors

 In my Main Pipeline, I've got

 map:select type=host
 map:when test=poc1
 map:mount uri-prefix=
 src=content/poc1.mydomain.com/sitemap.xmap / /map:when
 map:when test=poc2
 map:mount uri-prefix=
 src=content/poc2.mydomain.com/sitemap.xmap / /map:when
 /map:select

 But, nothing seems to be matching the hosts correctly...

 Apache's NameVHosting fine, Tomcat's passing it on (I've tested content in
 the root of a context), but...I get this error in my Cocoon logs...

 WARN(2003-03-14) 14:58.10:198   [sitemap.selector.host]
 (/content/kevin.html) Ajp13Processor[8009][4]/NamedPatternsSelector: No
 configuration for expression 'poc1' -- failing. WARN(2003-03-14)
 14:58.10:200   [sitemap.selector.host] (/content/kevin.html)
 Ajp13Processor[8009][4]/NamedPatternsSelector: No configuration for
 expression 'poc2' -- failing.

 I guess I've got my HostSelector configured wrongly, but, I'm following
 this http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=HostSelector advice and
 getting nowhere...

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks

 Kevin McDermott

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Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-15 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
what about simply reusing the userlist from the cocoon-dev, cocoon-user, 
cocoon-doc mailing lists and allow write access only to these
registered users ?

That should make life easy...
I think, authors, who are NOT members of one of the mailinglists,
cant be serious authors, because there is no feedback chain ...
as a small benefit we even could associate the emailadress to all
the wikiauthors, who have NO wiki name ;-)
regards, hussayn

Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Friday 14 March 2003 21:46, Steven Noels wrote:

Your thoughts, please: what kind of policy would you come up with, or
are willing to live up to?


IP address blocking is no good. A lot of people have dynamic IPs (either by 
dial-up or ADSL).

I favour a simple self-registration, with email address as user name (so that 
the community can bombard the intruder with hate mail - just kidding).

Niclas

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Re: wml generator ?

2003-03-15 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 14 March 2003 20:07, zze-MORY Nicolas FTRD/DMI/REN wrote:
 my source is for example http://www.toto.fr/cinema/titi.wml with pictures
 .wbmp

 and i have understand that WML is an xml application and with a good xsl i
 can generate a xhtml file. But i can't get the .wbmp any idea ?

You wrote quoteWML - XML/quote ;o)

search www.wapforum.org and www.wapforum.com. Sure the answer is in the WAP 
Developer area.



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 On Friday 14 March 2003 18:16, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
  I already checked some mail from http://w3c.org. it seems like we need to
  find a converter from WML - XML.

 WML is an XML application !!! Just like XHTML is an XML application.

 i.e. If you have it in print I can use a Xerox to convert from WML to XML,
 it already is...

 What do you mean by a WML generator??
 What is the source, files, URLs or attachments in mail messages?

 Anybody see the light???

 Niclas

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Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-15 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 15 March 2003 16:48, SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:
 what about simply reusing the userlist from the cocoon-dev, cocoon-user,
 cocoon-doc mailing lists and allow write access only to these
 registered users ?

 That should make life easy...
 I think, authors, who are NOT members of one of the mailinglists,
 cant be serious authors, because there is no feedback chain ...

 as a small benefit we even could associate the emailadress to all
 the wikiauthors, who have NO wiki name ;-)

Small problem, you don't have any credentials associated with your 
subscription. Need to tie in a password with your subscription, or I can 
misuse it by pretending to be someone else.

But in principal, I agree. 

Niclas

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AW: HostSelector

2003-03-15 Thread Marco Rolappe
hi kevin, 

in case you copypasted it may just be a typo:

map:selector logger=sitemap.selector.host name=host 
 src=org.apache.cocoon.selection.HostSelector/
^^^
element closed

I wonder if you're not getting any other errors because of this.

 host name=poc1 value=poc1.mydomain.com/
 host name=poc2 value=poc2.mydomain.com/
   /map:selectors



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AW: HostSelector

2003-03-15 Thread Marco Rolappe
hi geoff,

I actually encountered the problem you mentioned and back then I just added
a '*' to match the port string.

from a quick look at the sources it seems to me that in the case of the
selector things are different; it seems to be checking for a substring
match.

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 Are you on port 80?  If not, try adding :8080 or whatever port you're
 using to the end of your host string - I seem to recall that this is
 necessary with the host matcher, and it seems reasonable to guess the
 the selector to be the same.

 Geoff


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AW: xsp resulting in empty xml doc and the error ComponentSelector could not find the component for hint [serverpages] in core.log

2003-03-15 Thread Marco Rolappe
hi stephan,

you might also want to take a look at tomcat's logs, if nothing appears in
cocoon's logs. the 'empty' page is most probably because of 'buggy'
error-handling (which I think is fixed by now).

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 ComponentSelector could not find the component for hint [serverpages] in
 core.log


 Hi,

 the xsl sheet is chosen dynamically (there are a lot of sections of
 metadata), so the parameter {1} is replaced in the sitemap.

 e.g.

 if you access metadata_overview.html, metadata_overview.xsl is chosen,
 metadata_general.html reults in metadata_general.xsl etc. But
 thnaks for the
 hint about the timestamps. i will have a look at it.

 Stephan



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AW: Newbie

2003-03-15 Thread Marco Rolappe
hi richard (again ;-),

you may have a stylesheet for it, but from the sitemap.xmap attached I don't
see it applied to your xml.

another thing; you're not getting any images displayed, are you? just asking
because I see your matches on *.gif and *.jpg not being defined within
pipelines. the paths in the @src attributes of the readers are most probably
wrong (I think the one starting with 'cocoon/' is definitely wrong.

let's sort things out a bit; I assume when installing you put the cocoon war
in tomcat's webapps directory ($TOMCAT_HOME/webapps). afterwards tomcat
unpacked this war and you then had (and now have) cocoon in
$TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon. let's call the latter $COCOON_HOME. in this
directory you have a sitemap.xmap file which represents the _root sitemap_.
I infer you created a subdirectory 'soundpool' within $COCOON_HOME and
inserted a mount for this in your _root sitemap_. something like the
following:

map:match pattern=soundpool/**
map:mount src=soundpool/ uri-prefix=soundpool/
/map:match

what you need to understand here is _contexts_. each sitemap represents a
different context. and all relative paths within sitemaps are evaluated
against the context.

examples (assuming a normal cocoon installation, i.e. reachable via
http://localhost:8080/cocoon/):

1. localhost:8080/cocoon/foo.xml
the 'cocoon' part maps to cocoon's servlet, thus cocoon gets a request for
'foo.xml'. since all the request processing starts from the root sitemap,
it would have to be handled here.

2. localhost:8080/cocoon/soundpool/foo.xml
assuming the mount of your 'soundpool' sitemap mentioned above. this time
cocoon gets a request for   'soundpool/foo.xml'. since you have a matcher in
your sitemap for anything starting with 'soundpool'
(map:match pattern=soundpool/**) this request is handed to your
'soundpool' sitemap/context (via the map:mount).
note here that before being processed by your sub-sitemap/context the
prefix 'soundpool' is removed from the request  uri (because of the
@uri-prefix=soundpool); 'soundpool/foo.xml' becomes 'foo.xml' and is now
handed to your sub- sitemap for processing.

3. localhost:8080/cocoon/soundpool/foo/bar/baz.xml
same assumptions as in 2. 'foo/bar/baz.xml' is handed to your sub-sitemap.


another important point for you to know here is the context's directory
(which is the directory the sitemap.xmap for your sub-sitemap/context
lives). when you have relative references in your sitemap (e.g. map:read
mime-type=image/gif src=foo/bar.gif/) these are resolved against the
subsitemap's/context's directory.

so, taking your attached sitemap (which I assume lives in
$COCOON_HOME/soundpool):

!-- images Readers --
map:match pattern=*.gif
map:read mime-type=image/gif
src=cocoon/soundpool/images/{1}.gif/
/map:match
map:match pattern=soundpool/images/*.jpg
map:read mime-type=image/jpg src=images/{1}.jpg/
/map:match

1. localhost:8080/cocoon/soundpool/foo.gif
same assumptions as in examples above. 'foo.gif' is handed to your
sub-sitemap/context. your first matcher matches.then the reader tries to
read from 'cocoon/soundpool/images/foo.gif' (the {1} was replaced with the
text the '*'matched). this finally resolves (against your context's dir)
to $COCOON_HOME/soundpool/cocoon/soundpool/images/foo.gif.
so this file would have to exist for things to work. but I assume that you
have an 'images' directory in your soundpool
folder. thus, your relative references to the image files must be relative
to your context's dir. for the .jpgs this is
right already. but as mentioned at the beginning, the sitemap snippet above
must go into a map:pipeline element.


one last point regarding the matching; the single '*' only matches 'flat'
file names, e.g. foo.gif, bar.gif, but not paths like foo/bar.gif or
foo/bar/baz.gif. though I just tell you before you run into problems.

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 Dave and Joerg,

 I am also having problems with going onto the 3rd web page. When the
 link is clicked only the XML displays, despite there being a style sheet
 for it. I have a attached my sitemap so you can check my pipelines.

 The   !-- soundpool Database (PC Quick Queries) -- is the third page
 deep.

 Richard.


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AW: wml generator ?

2003-03-15 Thread Marco Rolappe
as was already mentioned WML is an XML application, thus you 'generate' it
via the normal 'file' generator. afterwards, conversion to e.g. xhtml should
be possible.

for the .wbmps you could write a simple converting Reader, for example. JAI
has support for .wbmps, so you could read them in and write out .jpgs, for
example.

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 my source is for example http://www.toto.fr/cinema/titi.wml with
 pictures .wbmp

 and i have understand that WML is an xml application and with a
 good xsl i can generate a xhtml file.
 But i can't get the .wbmp any idea ?

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 Sent: vendredi 14 mars 2003 12:00
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 Subject: Re: wml generator ?


 On Friday 14 March 2003 18:16, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
  I already checked some mail from http://w3c.org. it seems like
 we need to
  find a converter from WML - XML.

 WML is an XML application !!! Just like XHTML is an XML application.

 i.e. If you have it in print I can use a Xerox to convert from
 WML to XML, it
 already is...

 What do you mean by a WML generator??
 What is the source, files, URLs or attachments in mail messages?

 Anybody see the light???

 Niclas

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AW: jsessionid=CE76835B0559A701E89C2CD01D1DEF88

2003-03-15 Thread Marco Rolappe
that's a servlet container issue, not a cocoon one. just don't use sessions
in your app (I assume you don't need to) and the JSESSIONID should be gone.

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 this option is inside sub-sitemap where i declare locale action ?


 On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) wrote:

  Configuration issue; you probably using URL rewriting instead of cookies
  to handle user (HTTP) sessions.
 
  Stavros Kounis wrote:
   in http://www.portovistonis.gr
  
   some time when i call the url (there is a redirection in
 apache from / to
   /xml/ [worp connector])
  
   i get in url somenthing like :
  
   jsessionid=CE76835B0559A701E89C2CD01D1DEF88
  
   can anyone explain me where and why this session ID is generated?
  
   thnx
  
 
 
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Re: XT Transformer or XSLT Transformer?

2003-03-15 Thread Joerg Heinicke
CVS checkout using the branch 'xslt20' I guess. I have not been doing it 
for myself, I only read it and found the branch via ViewCVS 
(http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-xalan/java/?only_with_tag=xslt20).

Joerg

Andrew Watt wrote:
At 15:08 18/02/2003 +0100, you wrote:

Will cocoon support XSLT 2.0 in the future?


Cocoon uses Xalan by default, you can choose and use another XSLT
processor like XT or Saxon. The Xalan developer group has a XSLT 2 
branch in the CVS, but it's still experimental.


Joerg,

How can one access the XSLT 2.0 Xalan prototype?

By the way, anyone interested in experimenting with XSLT 2.0 code can 
use Saxon 7.x. It can be downloaded from
http://saxon.sourceforge.net/

Andrew Watt


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Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-15 Thread Steven Noels
SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:

what about simply reusing the userlist from the cocoon-dev, cocoon-user, 
cocoon-doc mailing lists and allow write access only to these
registered users ?
We don't have access to the list of registered email addresses on 
cocoon-* lists, and I doubt that will happen any time soon - there's 
some privacy issues involved with that, too.

Pier, do you have any opinion about this?

I'm thinking along the lines of adding some container-based 
authentication around Edit.jsp, and some smallish webapp so that people 
can register an email address (= user name) / password. Does anyone has 
something like that laying around? Use cases:

 * enter email address - generated pwd gets send to you
   - address  pwd are stored in db
 * you can log into that app
   - change pwd
   - drop your registration data
 * that same database is used for container-based authentication around 
Edit.jsp

What do you guys think?

/Steven
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Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-15 Thread Scherler
Niclas Hedhman wrote:

I favour a simple self-registration, with email address as user name (so that 
the community can bombard the intruder with hate mail - just kidding).
 

Having a valid wiki name is not enough! I think we have to enter a 
password as well!
...but this would be against wiki design principles [1]:
*Open* - Should a page be found to be incomplete or poorly organized, 
any reader can edit it as they see fit.

The suggestion of Hussayn is a nice thought: if you subscribed to the 
mailing list (dev|user|cvs) then you can write - otherwise you have to 
subscribe to the list.

[#1]http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiDesignPrinciples

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Re: Creating a MenuGenerator based on DirectoryGenerator

2003-03-15 Thread Upayavira
 The question is: Am I doing something really stupid here? I'm kind of
 newbie with Cocoon and I most certainly haven't yet understood the
 whole potential of it so all comments are more than welcome. However,
 the site I'm building should be completely dynamic and, therefore, the
 menu creation should be somewhat realtime. Is there a component that
 would do this already?

When I first came to Cocoon, I had similar thoughts about deriving the navigation 
from the files themselves. However, I decided against it in the end, and decided to 
follow the model used by Forrest, which is to use a 'linkmap' document. Having made 
this decision, my site (70 pages+) was up and running two hours later - so it 
obviously 
worked.

One thing that Forrest does which is impressive (which I will steal for my site at 
some 
point) is to allow linking to other pages in a site without knowing the page's final 
URL. 
When linking to a page, you use the page's ID. A couple of input modules and a 
transformer then translate that ID into the proper URL.

Hope this helps.

Regards, Upayavira


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Re: Creating a MenuGenerator based on DirectoryGenerator

2003-03-15 Thread Ryan Hoegg
Upayavira wrote:

One thing that Forrest does which is impressive (which I will steal for my site at some point) is to allow linking to other pages in a site without knowing the page's final URL. 
When linking to a page, you use the page's ID. A couple of input modules and a transformer then translate that ID into the proper URL.
 

Is there a name for this pattern?  That's exactly what a Struts 
ActionForward (or is it Actionmapping?) is!  And there's another name 
for it in Maverick.

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Re: Creating a MenuGenerator based on DirectoryGenerator

2003-03-15 Thread Upayavira
 Is there a name for this pattern?  That's exactly what a Struts 
 ActionForward (or is it Actionmapping?) is!  And there's another name
 for it in Maverick.

Forrest calls it 'Semantic Linking', to quote from 
http://xml.apache.org/forrest/linking.html:

Forrest's solution is simple: instead of link href=todo.html, write link 
href=site:todo, where: 

site is a URI 'scheme'; a namespace that restricts the syntax and semantics of the 
rest of the URI [rfc2396]. The semantics of 'site' are this identifier locates 
something 
in the site's XML sources. 
todo identifies the content in todo.xml, by reference to a 'node' of content declared 
in 
site.xml. 
We call this semantic linking because instead of linking to a physical representation 
(todo.html), we've linked to the 'idea' of the todo file. It doesn't matter where it 
physically lives; that will be sorted out by Forrest. 

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Re: Error deploying to WLS 6.1sp2... Help!

2003-03-15 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Howard, Gary wrote:

Does anyone have any ideas?  Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Gary
Mar 14, 2003 4:22:06 PM EST Error J2EE Error deploying application
cocoon
: Could not load cocoon
Mar 14, 2003 4:22:06 PM EST Error Management ApplicationManager
starting
Config caught throwable
java.lang.reflect.UndeclaredThrowableException:
java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBounds
Exception: String index out of range: -1
Upgrade to SP4 or get a patch from bea support. This is known issue.

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Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-15 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Friday, Mar 14, 2003, at 13:46 Europe/London, Steven Noels wrote:

while briefly checking the Wiki, I was confronted with some apparent 
abuse: people uploading attachments which don't have much to do with 
Cocoon (possibly just making benefit of the bandwidth we are 
sponsoring), people playing around on certain non-Sandbox pages, even 
to the extreme of erasing the Main page, and various other 
not-so-funny things. I'm very happy to see some people go in and 
correct, and the new 'restore latest version' feature of JSPWiki sure 
helps with this.

Nevertheless, I'm annoyed a bit by the lack of adult behaviour by some 
IP addresses, and was wondering whether (and how) I should block them. 
I know this sounds pretty harsh, and that's why I'm polling you guys 
to see what you would think would be a fair policy.
FYI, when people do this on the Apache AxKit Wiki, I block their IP at 
our firewall. Harsh, but fair. And no complaints so far.

Matt.

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