Re: An IDIOT on WiKi!

2003-05-31 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 04:44  PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

Control is the last thing you want, that kills the spirit.
Recommendations,
There's also a tentative implementation of an authenticating and 
authorizing wiki based on V2 of jspwiki. You can read more about it here:
  http://www.jspwiki.org/Wiki.jsp?page=JSPWikiAuthentication

I'm sure offers of help would be appreciated there.

Diana

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An IDIOT on WiKi!

2003-05-30 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Please check this page:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=XSPSyntax

Surely an IDIOT was destroying our work. This is not fair. I think we must
take some actions against this type of STUPID things!

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



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RE: An IDIOT on WiKi!

2003-05-30 Thread Steven Cummings
Does wiki not store revisions that can be rolled back?

/S

Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Please check this page:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=XSPSyntax

Surely an IDIOT was destroying our work. This is not fair. I think we must
take some actions against this type of STUPID things!

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



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Re: An IDIOT on WiKi!

2003-05-30 Thread Boon Hian Tek
Steven Cummings wrote:
Does wiki not store revisions that can be rolled back?

/S
Still someone has to spot it before that is done. Meanwhile,
people can be confused and misled. But still, I love the
free spirit of the Wiki too much to see this as sufficient
reason to lock it down. What do you think?
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Re: An IDIOT on WiKi!

2003-05-30 Thread Steven Cummings
That was one of my first thoughts. On the other hand, it wouldn't be that hard to 
require logging in before editing as some people already do anyway. It's not like it 
is even a big hassle, passwords aren't even required. It could be presented more like 
Why don't you briefly introduce yourself (perhaps just a name) before editing on our 
site?. Friendly enough for genuine contributors but hopefully just enough of a hassle 
for those who are passing through wiki sites leaving damage. Of course it really can't 
be prevented, but if a cookie is set and an IP grabbed, then perhaps that person can 
be blocked in the future.

/S

Boon Hian Tek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Steven Cummings wrote:
 Does wiki not store revisions that can be rolled back?
 
 /S
Still someone has to spot it before that is done. Meanwhile,
people can be confused and misled. But still, I love the
free spirit of the Wiki too much to see this as sufficient
reason to lock it down. What do you think?

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Re: An IDIOT on WiKi!

2003-05-30 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Steven Cummings dijo:
 Of course it really can't be prevented, but
if a cookie is set and an IP
 grabbed, then perhaps that person can be blocked in the future.

Hi:

First sorry to all the list for the subject of the mail. I was the one
that started this thread. I was very upset because I needed to help
someone pointing to this wiki reference.

Also I dont see fair that some of us spend hours trying to put our best
effort writing the wiki docs and some IDIOT destroy the community work. We
really must take some kind of restriction to make a little bit hard to
this kind of people to enter the system and destroy the community work.

When I started to use wiki. I loved that was freely editable, but after
that I think we must find a mechanism to control contribution. I mean this
kind of nonsense contributions that only destroy the builded work.

What we can do?

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



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Re: An IDIOT on WiKi!

2003-05-30 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 29 May 2003 08:34 pm, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
 When I started to use wiki. I loved that was freely editable, but after
 that I think we must find a mechanism to control contribution. I mean this
 kind of nonsense contributions that only destroy the builded work.

Control is the last thing you want, that kills the spirit.
Recommendations,

* Subscription to cocoon-users, as it is fairly simple to subscribe.

* Mailing list where all changes are notified, so that moderators can ensure 
reasonable modifications.

* Easy-to-use rollback for the moderators, not for everyone!


Niclas

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Re: An IDIOT on WiKi!

2003-05-30 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Hello Antonio,

don't take it so hard. The best means for making manipulation on the 
Wiki useless is the possibility of fast restoring. This makes it a 
harder work to manipulate than to restore - and this is no fun for the 
manipulator and he won't do it so often.

Joerg

Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Hi:

First sorry to all the list for the subject of the mail. I was the one
that started this thread. I was very upset because I needed to help
someone pointing to this wiki reference.
Also I dont see fair that some of us spend hours trying to put our best
effort writing the wiki docs and some IDIOT destroy the community work. We
really must take some kind of restriction to make a little bit hard to
this kind of people to enter the system and destroy the community work.
When I started to use wiki. I loved that was freely editable, but after
that I think we must find a mechanism to control contribution. I mean this
kind of nonsense contributions that only destroy the builded work.
What we can do?

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo


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Re: An IDIOT on WiKi!

2003-05-30 Thread Geoff Howard
At 04:44 PM 5/30/2003, you wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2003 08:34 pm, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
 When I started to use wiki. I loved that was freely editable, but after
 that I think we must find a mechanism to control contribution. I mean this
 kind of nonsense contributions that only destroy the builded work.
Control is the last thing you want, that kills the spirit.
Recommendations,
* Subscription to cocoon-users, as it is fairly simple to subscribe.
AFAIK, that's been talked about, but how is cocoondev.org supposed
to get access to the cococon-users email information?
* Mailing list where all changes are notified, so that moderators can 
ensure
reasonable modifications.
That's already in place on cocoon-docs

* Easy-to-use rollback for the moderators, not for everyone!
Good idea - Stephen?

Geoff 

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