Re: Content formats
How about the xdoc format used by Maven and Anakia ? http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site-tags.html Steve http://www.runtime-collective.com t: 01273 234290 f: 01273 234291 m: 0789 984 1684 On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Alex Romayev wrote: I haven't seen/used any standardised page layout formats. I'm using Cocoon's portal framework and I like/use their idea of spliting the page into independent coplets (sometimes known as portlets). I know it's not much, but it's a good start and I'm actually enjoying some nice benefits. What I've also done was to make heavy use of CSS2, so that the look and positioning of each coplet can be controlled externally. -Alex --- Tony Collen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Ryan Hoegg wrote: snip/ What format do seasoned Cocoon people use to represent web content? That is, when the choice isn't made for them because of pre-existing content. XHTML, of course. At least, when I'm writing suff that will probably just go on the web. Either that, or I'll invent my own DTD on the fly. With respect to document-1.0, that's the format the current Cocoon documents are in right now. Tony -- Tony Collen ICQ: 12410567 -- Cocoon: Internet Glue (A Cocoon Weblog) http://manero.org/weblog/ -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Content formats
Hi, I've been looking over the suggestions, and they seem to be pretty much what I was looking for. I understand now why someone suggested XHTML. However, there is way too much styling possible in XHTML. I need a content format that somewhat encourages authors not to put style elements such as font or hr in their content. It seems that the Maven xdoc format and the Cocoon document-10 format have a lot in common. Cocoon has a header/ element while xdoc puts header content in the document root outside of the body/. Cocoon has s1/ through s4/, xdoc has section/ and subsection/. DITA looks fascinating. So far it looks like everything I might want. It is a lot to absorb, but I'll ping the list back after I absorb some of it. -- Ryan Hoegg ISIS Networks http://www.isisnetworks.net Steve Crossan wrote: How about the xdoc format used by Maven and Anakia ? http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site-tags.html Steve http://www.runtime-collective.com t: 01273 234290 f: 01273 234291 m: 0789 984 1684 On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Alex Romayev wrote: I haven't seen/used any standardised page layout formats. I'm using Cocoon's portal framework and I like/use their idea of spliting the page into independent coplets (sometimes known as portlets). I know it's not much, but it's a good start and I'm actually enjoying some nice benefits. What I've also done was to make heavy use of CSS2, so that the look and positioning of each coplet can be controlled externally. -Alex --- Tony Collen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Ryan Hoegg wrote: snip/ What format do seasoned Cocoon people use to represent web content? That is, when the choice isn't made for them because of pre-existing content. XHTML, of course. At least, when I'm writing suff that will probably just go on the web. Either that, or I'll invent my own DTD on the fly. With respect to document-1.0, that's the format the current Cocoon documents are in right now. Tony -- Tony Collen ICQ: 12410567 -- Cocoon: Internet Glue (A Cocoon Weblog) http://manero.org/weblog/ -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content formats
Hi all, I've been looking through the samples in 2.1 dev and all over the wiki and the web, but have not found many good resources on XML web content representation. Perhaps I have missed something; if so, please point me to it. In my travels, I have found several formats in use: - document-v10.dtd, which I fouind in src\documentation\xdocs\dtd, was designed for software documentation - Docbook seems to be too geared towards actual books and manuals such as at http://www.tldp.org. Web pages don't really have chapters. - Aurigadoc seems to be geared towards help files Many cocoon samples use no DTD or schema declaration and start from a page/ element. There seem to be some common tags used in this format, but I can't find much about it. What format do seasoned Cocoon people use to represent web content? That is, when the choice isn't made for them because of pre-existing content. -- Ryan Hoegg ISIS Networks http://www.isisnetworks.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Content formats
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Ryan Hoegg wrote: snip/ What format do seasoned Cocoon people use to represent web content? That is, when the choice isn't made for them because of pre-existing content. XHTML, of course. At least, when I'm writing suff that will probably just go on the web. Either that, or I'll invent my own DTD on the fly. With respect to document-1.0, that's the format the current Cocoon documents are in right now. Tony -- Tony Collen ICQ: 12410567 -- Cocoon: Internet Glue (A Cocoon Weblog) http://manero.org/weblog/ -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Content formats
I haven't seen/used any standardised page layout formats. I'm using Cocoon's portal framework and I like/use their idea of spliting the page into independent coplets (sometimes known as portlets). I know it's not much, but it's a good start and I'm actually enjoying some nice benefits. What I've also done was to make heavy use of CSS2, so that the look and positioning of each coplet can be controlled externally. -Alex --- Tony Collen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Ryan Hoegg wrote: snip/ What format do seasoned Cocoon people use to represent web content? That is, when the choice isn't made for them because of pre-existing content. XHTML, of course. At least, when I'm writing suff that will probably just go on the web. Either that, or I'll invent my own DTD on the fly. With respect to document-1.0, that's the format the current Cocoon documents are in right now. Tony -- Tony Collen ICQ: 12410567 -- Cocoon: Internet Glue (A Cocoon Weblog) http://manero.org/weblog/ -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Content formats
Studying the DocBook DTD and XSLs can be instructional, as well, for rolling your own. DITA seems to be developed specifically to move away from the book paradigm for creating information products. You can read about it and download the DTDs and XSLs from IBM. Info at the links. Joe http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-dita1/#h1 http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-dita2/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
