RE: IDE for cocoon
Hello, We have a very powerful IDE called KrysalIDE especially designed to understand the concept of XSP, taglibs and pipelines. It already provides some interesting features for our Cocoon clone - Krysalis, and we are considering porting it to coocon if there will be enough interest. (it is a commercial product) See more about KrysalIDE at http://www.interakt.ro/products/KrysalIDE/ We have tag completion capability for any taglib and for XSLs, visual link between XML and XSL, etc, Alexandru On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 17:38, Geoff Howard wrote: While we're talking about sunbow, are there any plans to provide some kind of support for xsp/xml editing? Maybe I haven't found the right settings or external plugins yet but xml editing doesn't seem very rich. Jedit at least has some tag completion capability etc. Have I missed something? Geoff -Original Message- From: Matthew Langham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon Hi, the current free version of sunBow will remain free. At the moment we require a licence key (because we originally thought this a good idea) and have not yet got round to removing the dependency. Hopefully we will find some time to do that...but until then :-). Matthew -- Open Source Group Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects } = Matthew Langham, SN AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de - Cocoon book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20 Weblogs: http://radio.weblogs.com/0103021/ http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/author/1014 = -Original Message- From: Jordi Valldaura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hello, I agree with u that eclipse is a very good ide. But the sunbow plug in needs a registration key, I know they give it freely now but I don't think they will do it in the future. - Original Message - From: Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon I've recently started using eclipse and have been very impressed. The information it provides helps make sense of what can seem like a rats nest of dependencies. I have brought in avalon and avalon-excalibur as projects alongside cocoon and my own cocoon-based projects which has been very helpful in tracking down information that crosses the border between the projects. All of that would be true with any good IDE, but this one's free and has the added benefit of the sunBow stuff. Hope that helps, Geoff -Original Message- From: Martin Dulisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: IDE for cocoon
Well I don't have money to buy any tools. Usually I have to get companies to buy them. However as a suggestion, fi you are trying to get more customers, Id investigate a way to integrate your concepts with open platforms like NetBeans or eclipse. Breaking people off from their normal IDEs is tough. Getting them to add new functionality to them is much easier. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Alexandru COSTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon Hello, We have a very powerful IDE called KrysalIDE especially designed to understand the concept of XSP, taglibs and pipelines. It already provides some interesting features for our Cocoon clone - Krysalis, and we are considering porting it to coocon if there will be enough interest. (it is a commercial product) See more about KrysalIDE at http://www.interakt.ro/products/KrysalIDE/ We have tag completion capability for any taglib and for XSLs, visual link between XML and XSL, etc, Alexandru On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 17:38, Geoff Howard wrote: While we're talking about sunbow, are there any plans to provide some kind of support for xsp/xml editing? Maybe I haven't found the right settings or external plugins yet but xml editing doesn't seem very rich. Jedit at least has some tag completion capability etc. Have I missed something? Geoff -Original Message- From: Matthew Langham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon Hi, the current free version of sunBow will remain free. At the moment we require a licence key (because we originally thought this a good idea) and have not yet got round to removing the dependency. Hopefully we will find some time to do that...but until then :-). Matthew -- Open Source Group Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects } = Matthew Langham, SN AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de - Cocoon book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20 Weblogs: http://radio.weblogs.com/0103021/ http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/author/1014 = -Original Message- From: Jordi Valldaura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hello, I agree with u that eclipse is a very good ide. But the sunbow plug in needs a registration key, I know they give it freely now but I don't think they will do it in the future. - Original Message - From: Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon I've recently started using eclipse and have been very impressed. The information it provides helps make sense of what can seem like a rats nest of dependencies. I have brought in avalon and avalon-excalibur as projects alongside cocoon and my own cocoon-based projects which has been very helpful in tracking down information that crosses the border between the projects. All of that would be true with any good IDE, but this one's free and has the added benefit of the sunBow stuff. Hope that helps, Geoff -Original Message- From: Martin Dulisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check
Re: IDE for cocoon
Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IDE for cocoon
Can we run it in stand alone mode? Or as JBuilder plug-in? -Original Message- From: Martin Dulisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE for cocoon
It is a eclipse plugin, not JBuilder. Martin - Original Message - From: Alireza Fattahi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:32 AM Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon Can we run it in stand alone mode? Or as JBuilder plug-in? -Original Message- From: Martin Dulisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IDE for cocoon
I've recently started using eclipse and have been very impressed. The information it provides helps make sense of what can seem like a rats nest of dependencies. I have brought in avalon and avalon-excalibur as projects alongside cocoon and my own cocoon-based projects which has been very helpful in tracking down information that crosses the border between the projects. All of that would be true with any good IDE, but this one's free and has the added benefit of the sunBow stuff. Hope that helps, Geoff -Original Message- From: Martin Dulisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE for cocoon
Hello, I agree with u that eclipse is a very good ide. But the sunbow plug in needs a registration key, I know they give it freely now but I don't think they will do it in the future. - Original Message - From: Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon I've recently started using eclipse and have been very impressed. The information it provides helps make sense of what can seem like a rats nest of dependencies. I have brought in avalon and avalon-excalibur as projects alongside cocoon and my own cocoon-based projects which has been very helpful in tracking down information that crosses the border between the projects. All of that would be true with any good IDE, but this one's free and has the added benefit of the sunBow stuff. Hope that helps, Geoff -Original Message- From: Martin Dulisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IDE for cocoon
Hi, the current free version of sunBow will remain free. At the moment we require a licence key (because we originally thought this a good idea) and have not yet got round to removing the dependency. Hopefully we will find some time to do that...but until then :-). Matthew -- Open Source Group Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects } = Matthew Langham, SN AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de - Cocoon book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20 Weblogs: http://radio.weblogs.com/0103021/ http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/author/1014 = -Original Message- From: Jordi Valldaura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hello, I agree with u that eclipse is a very good ide. But the sunbow plug in needs a registration key, I know they give it freely now but I don't think they will do it in the future. - Original Message - From: Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon I've recently started using eclipse and have been very impressed. The information it provides helps make sense of what can seem like a rats nest of dependencies. I have brought in avalon and avalon-excalibur as projects alongside cocoon and my own cocoon-based projects which has been very helpful in tracking down information that crosses the border between the projects. All of that would be true with any good IDE, but this one's free and has the added benefit of the sunBow stuff. Hope that helps, Geoff -Original Message- From: Martin Dulisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IDE for cocoon
While we're talking about sunbow, are there any plans to provide some kind of support for xsp/xml editing? Maybe I haven't found the right settings or external plugins yet but xml editing doesn't seem very rich. Jedit at least has some tag completion capability etc. Have I missed something? Geoff -Original Message- From: Matthew Langham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon Hi, the current free version of sunBow will remain free. At the moment we require a licence key (because we originally thought this a good idea) and have not yet got round to removing the dependency. Hopefully we will find some time to do that...but until then :-). Matthew -- Open Source Group Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects } = Matthew Langham, SN AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de - Cocoon book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20 Weblogs: http://radio.weblogs.com/0103021/ http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/author/1014 = -Original Message- From: Jordi Valldaura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hello, I agree with u that eclipse is a very good ide. But the sunbow plug in needs a registration key, I know they give it freely now but I don't think they will do it in the future. - Original Message - From: Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon I've recently started using eclipse and have been very impressed. The information it provides helps make sense of what can seem like a rats nest of dependencies. I have brought in avalon and avalon-excalibur as projects alongside cocoon and my own cocoon-based projects which has been very helpful in tracking down information that crosses the border between the projects. All of that would be true with any good IDE, but this one's free and has the added benefit of the sunBow stuff. Hope that helps, Geoff -Original Message- From: Martin Dulisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ
Re: IDE for cocoon
You are doing a good work. Thank you - Original Message - From: Matthew Langham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon Hi, the current free version of sunBow will remain free. At the moment we require a licence key (because we originally thought this a good idea) and have not yet got round to removing the dependency. Hopefully we will find some time to do that...but until then :-). Matthew -- Open Source Group Cocoon { Consulting, Training, Projects } = Matthew Langham, SN AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn Tel:+49-5251-1581-30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.s-und-n.de - Cocoon book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352/needacake-20 Weblogs: http://radio.weblogs.com/0103021/ http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/author/1014 = -Original Message- From: Jordi Valldaura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hello, I agree with u that eclipse is a very good ide. But the sunbow plug in needs a registration key, I know they give it freely now but I don't think they will do it in the future. - Original Message - From: Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: RE: IDE for cocoon I've recently started using eclipse and have been very impressed. The information it provides helps make sense of what can seem like a rats nest of dependencies. I have brought in avalon and avalon-excalibur as projects alongside cocoon and my own cocoon-based projects which has been very helpful in tracking down information that crosses the border between the projects. All of that would be true with any good IDE, but this one's free and has the added benefit of the sunBow stuff. Hope that helps, Geoff -Original Message- From: Martin Dulisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IDE for cocoon Hi Reza, sunBow is a plugin for eclipse (www.eclipse.org). It contributes some Cocoon/XML/XSLT features to eclipse. You can find the download and documentation here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ Martin - Original Message - From: Reza Aliakbari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: IDE for cocoon Dears, I am new in cocoon. I need some tools and IDE for cocoon. Also I am waiting for any advise that could be useful for new cocoon developers. Thanks, Reza. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]