Re: XMLForm UI Builder

2002-11-19 Thread Ivelin Ivanov

Interesting approach.

Can you share an example?


Ivelin


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From: Scott Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: XMLForm UI Builder


 Senhaji,

 An easy way that I have achieved this is to generate an XML document
 that has all the information (Java Bean properties + code, Form Elements
 etc) then I created a number of XSL Documents that take the XML doc and
 produce the JavaBean code, XMLForm.XSP, Validation Descriptor.XML etc.
 Then all you need to do is change the layout of the XMLForm as
 needed.. I use Ant to generate the files from the XML but you can
 use a Cocoon pipleine to generate the files.

 Hope this helps

 Scott Warren

 Senhaji wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I've just finished playing with the XMLForm wizard example. I've learned
a
 lot of good concepts such as the separation between the content, the
 presentation and the validation in the form building process. After that,
I
 started looking for an XMLForm builder that would help me speed up the
form
 building process. But without success! How can I explain to the
management
 that even building a simple Form with C2 will take ~3 days of
development?
 not easy -).
 
 It could be very nice if from a form builder one can generate all the
 necessary files for C2 (JavaBeans, XSL for transforming XMLForm widget to
 HTML or whatever widget, XSL for the form layout, XML schema for
 validation,...).
 
 Are there any works in this area ?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Senhaji
 
 
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Re: XMLForm UI Builder

2002-11-19 Thread Scott Warren




I sent an example recently. Unfortunately I am a little snowed under at
the moment. I will get an example soon .. Promise

Take Care

Scott Warren

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:

  Interesting approach.

Can you share an example?


Ivelin


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From: "Scott Warren" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: XMLForm UI Builder


  
  
Senhaji,

An easy way that I have achieved this is to generate an XML document
that has all the information (Java Bean properties + code, Form Elements
etc) then I created a number of XSL Documents that take the XML doc and
produce the JavaBean code, XMLForm.XSP, Validation Descriptor.XML etc.
Then all you need to do is change the layout of the XMLForm as
needed.. I use Ant to generate the files from the XML but you can
use a Cocoon pipleine to generate the files.

Hope this helps

Scott Warren

Senhaji wrote:



  Hello,

I've just finished playing with the XMLForm wizard example. I've learned
  

  
  a
  
  

  lot of good concepts such as the separation between the content, the
presentation and the validation in the form building process. After that,
  

  
  I
  
  

  started looking for an XMLForm builder that would help me speed up the
  

  
  form
  
  

  building process. But without success! How can I explain to the
  

  
  management
  
  

  that even building a simple Form with C2 will take ~3 days of
  

  
  development?
  
  

  not easy -).

It could be very nice if from a form builder one can generate all the
necessary files for C2 (JavaBeans, XSL for transforming XMLForm widget to
HTML or whatever widget, XSL for the form layout, XML schema for
validation,...).

Are there any works in this area ?

Thanks in advance,

Senhaji


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RE: XMLForm UI Builder

2002-11-18 Thread Senhaji
Thank you guys. I'll get a look to the XYbrix tool.
Scott, your approach sounds good too. I'll appreciate a lot if you can drop
me your ANT generation script to save me time and money -)

Regards,

Senhaji

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I've been using XYbrix (http://www.jbrix.org/kits/xybrix/overview.html)
to edit xml files for some time and find it quite easy to use.
IIUC it uses xforms stuff to make the forms, and it's all GUI.
The license is apache compatible, so maybe it could help.

my 2c

Scott Warren wrote:
 Senhaji,

 An easy way that I have achieved this is to generate an XML document
 that has all the information (Java Bean properties + code, Form Elements
 etc) then I created a number of XSL Documents that take the XML doc and
 produce the JavaBean code, XMLForm.XSP, Validation Descriptor.XML etc.
 Then all you need to do is change the layout of the XMLForm as
 needed.. I use Ant to generate the files from the XML but you can
 use a Cocoon pipleine to generate the files.

 Hope this helps

 Scott Warren

 Senhaji wrote:

 Hello,

 I've just finished playing with the XMLForm wizard example. I've
 learned a
 lot of good concepts such as the separation between the content, the
 presentation and the validation in the form building process. After
 that, I
 started looking for an XMLForm builder that would help me speed up the
 form
 building process. But without success! How can I explain to the
 management
 that even building a simple Form with C2 will take ~3 days of
 development?
 not easy -).

 It could be very nice if from a form builder one can generate all the
 necessary files for C2 (JavaBeans, XSL for transforming XMLForm widget to
 HTML or whatever widget, XSL for the form layout, XML schema for
 validation,...).

 Are there any works in this area ?

 Thanks in advance,

 Senhaji


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Re: XMLForm UI Builder

2002-11-17 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
There is no current work on a XMLForm builder, to my knowledge.

But you are welcome to pitch in if you want.


Ivelin


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From: Senhaji [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:12 AM
Subject: XMLForm UI Builder


 Hello,

 I've just finished playing with the XMLForm wizard example. I've learned a
 lot of good concepts such as the separation between the content, the
 presentation and the validation in the form building process. After that,
I
 started looking for an XMLForm builder that would help me speed up the
form
 building process. But without success! How can I explain to the management
 that even building a simple Form with C2 will take ~3 days of development?
 not easy -).

 It could be very nice if from a form builder one can generate all the
 necessary files for C2 (JavaBeans, XSL for transforming XMLForm widget to
 HTML or whatever widget, XSL for the form layout, XML schema for
 validation,...).

 Are there any works in this area ?

 Thanks in advance,

 Senhaji


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RE: XMLForm UI Builder

2002-11-17 Thread Senhaji
Thanks Ivelin.

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There is no current work on a XMLForm builder, to my knowledge.

But you are welcome to pitch in if you want.


Ivelin


- Original Message -
From: Senhaji [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cocoon-Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:12 AM
Subject: XMLForm UI Builder


 Hello,

 I've just finished playing with the XMLForm wizard example. I've learned a
 lot of good concepts such as the separation between the content, the
 presentation and the validation in the form building process. After that,
I
 started looking for an XMLForm builder that would help me speed up the
form
 building process. But without success! How can I explain to the management
 that even building a simple Form with C2 will take ~3 days of development?
 not easy -).

 It could be very nice if from a form builder one can generate all the
 necessary files for C2 (JavaBeans, XSL for transforming XMLForm widget to
 HTML or whatever widget, XSL for the form layout, XML schema for
 validation,...).

 Are there any works in this area ?

 Thanks in advance,

 Senhaji


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Re: XMLForm UI Builder

2002-11-17 Thread Scott Warren
Senhaji,

An easy way that I have achieved this is to generate an XML document 
that has all the information (Java Bean properties + code, Form Elements 
etc) then I created a number of XSL Documents that take the XML doc and 
produce the JavaBean code, XMLForm.XSP, Validation Descriptor.XML etc. 
Then all you need to do is change the layout of the XMLForm as 
needed.. I use Ant to generate the files from the XML but you can 
use a Cocoon pipleine to generate the files.

Hope this helps

Scott Warren

Senhaji wrote:

Hello,

I've just finished playing with the XMLForm wizard example. I've learned a
lot of good concepts such as the separation between the content, the
presentation and the validation in the form building process. After that, I
started looking for an XMLForm builder that would help me speed up the form
building process. But without success! How can I explain to the management
that even building a simple Form with C2 will take ~3 days of development?
not easy -).

It could be very nice if from a form builder one can generate all the
necessary files for C2 (JavaBeans, XSL for transforming XMLForm widget to
HTML or whatever widget, XSL for the form layout, XML schema for
validation,...).

Are there any works in this area ?

Thanks in advance,

Senhaji


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Re: XMLForm UI Builder

2002-11-17 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi

I've been using XYbrix (http://www.jbrix.org/kits/xybrix/overview.html) 
to edit xml files for some time and find it quite easy to use.
IIUC it uses xforms stuff to make the forms, and it's all GUI.
The license is apache compatible, so maybe it could help.

my 2c

Scott Warren wrote:
Senhaji,

An easy way that I have achieved this is to generate an XML document 
that has all the information (Java Bean properties + code, Form Elements 
etc) then I created a number of XSL Documents that take the XML doc and 
produce the JavaBean code, XMLForm.XSP, Validation Descriptor.XML etc. 
Then all you need to do is change the layout of the XMLForm as 
needed.. I use Ant to generate the files from the XML but you can 
use a Cocoon pipleine to generate the files.

Hope this helps

Scott Warren

Senhaji wrote:

Hello,

I've just finished playing with the XMLForm wizard example. I've 
learned a
lot of good concepts such as the separation between the content, the
presentation and the validation in the form building process. After 
that, I
started looking for an XMLForm builder that would help me speed up the 
form
building process. But without success! How can I explain to the 
management
that even building a simple Form with C2 will take ~3 days of 
development?
not easy -).

It could be very nice if from a form builder one can generate all the
necessary files for C2 (JavaBeans, XSL for transforming XMLForm widget to
HTML or whatever widget, XSL for the form layout, XML schema for
validation,...).

Are there any works in this area ?

Thanks in advance,

Senhaji


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