Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Lajos]

Ok, there is another way. Say you have your top level directories - 
images, scripts, style - under DocumentRoot, so they are served by 
Apache. Then, you have specific Cocoon applications forwarded to Cocoon 
in Tomcat via JkMount's:

JkMount /myapp1 ajp13
JkMount /myapp2 ajp13

etc.

Then, in the XSLs that produce the HTML in your Cocoon apps, you just 
put /images, /scripts, /style for all *.gif, *.jpg, *.js, *.css files. 
So, nothing will ever get routed thru Tomcat.

Luca is right that is is inefficient to use the pipelines the way I 
suggest. And in fact, for galatea.com I do just what I suggest above: 
all my gif, jpg, css and js references start from the root so never get 
to Cocoon.

Regards,

Lajos


SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:
Hey, Lajos;

i see we are all very creative people ;-)
Another cool idea how to get around the problem.

The one thing i am *really* uncomfortable with this
solution is the sequence:

1.) browser requests .img
2.) apache forwards request to tomcat
3.) tomcat forwards request to cocoon
4.) cocoon processes and redirects.
5.) apache redirects
6.) browser calls apache
7.) apache serves the file


hmm. performance again ??


i really would prefer something like:

1.) browser requests .img
2.) apache serves the file

ill need to switch on my hackers-brain-partition ;-)
Thanks again for your answers...

regards, hussayn


Lajos wrote:


Hi Hussayn -

Here is what I do in almost every cocoon app I do:


 


 



 


 


Any gif or css (and you can do the same for jpg, js, etc.) gets 
redirected to the appropriate directory off the webserver root, and 
hence is served by Apache. So, under Apache's DocumentRoot I have 
/images, /styles, /scripts, etc., etc.

Regards,

Lajos


SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:

hy,

thats a very pragmatic idea. i like such approaches.
but, hmm... wouldn't this need lots of "static" links
in your pages ???

i mean, you really must point to the myapp-static pages
with absolute links. What about maintenance ... ???

seems as if i need to do it in this way, or let cocoon
serve everything ;-(

Maybe i can plugin something in to apache, or would it be
a big problem to get mod_JK do what i want (hacking ...) ???
I'll go and ask the apache-group ...
and report back, what i get from there maybe in a Wiki ;-) ?

anyway thanks for the tip...

regards, hussayn


Luca Morandini wrote:


Hussayn,

I know it is not a smart solution, but it worked for me.

1) Setup mod_jk to redirect everything starting with "myapp" to 
Tomcat/Cocoon
2) Setup an alias named "myapp-static" pointed to a directory 
containing your static files
3) Use URI like "/myapp/dynamic.htlm" for dynamic content and URI 
like "/myapp-static/static.html" for static content

This has the advantage of scaling up well: we have three web-servers 
serving the static content ("/myapp-static/*") and one
app-server serving the Cocoon-generated content ("/myapp/*").

Regards.

-
   Luca Morandini
   GIS Consultant
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html
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-Original Message-
From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache 
???


Hy;

When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to get 
round it)

Here is the problem:

1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:

*.gif, *.html, *.jpg

2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.


Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 

this doesn't help:


  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon


because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
serve the files mentioned above ...

This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):

  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*.foococoon
  ...


The list could potentially go down endlessly.
There MUST be an obvious solution to this!

Anyone can help me here ?

regards, Hussayn

--
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SAXESS Software Design GmbH
Neuenhöfer Allee 125
50935 Köln
Telefon: +49-221-56011-0
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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Christoph Gaffga]

RE: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???Oh, i
missed th mod_jk-stuff.
Im doing mod_proxy as well, but like this:

# The static
RewriteCond /your/docroot/dir1/%{REQUEST_FILENAME}  -f
RewriteRule ^(.+)  /your/docroot/dir1/$1  [L]

# Cocoon running on 8080
RewriteRule ^(.+)  http://localhost:8080/cocoon/$1 [P]

Christoph


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To: "Cocoon Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???


> Hi,
>
> I'm using RewriteCond and RewriteRule in my apache config for that
purpose.
> (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#RewriteCond)
> (see also http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#RewriteCond)
>
> You can use -f with RewriteCond to check if the file exists, and if, catch
> it from hd.
> Something like the following should work:
>
> RewriteCond /your/docroot/dir1/%{REQUEST_FILENAME}  -f
> RewriteRule ^(.+)  /your/docroot/dir1/$1  [L]
>
> hope that helps
>
> Christoph Gaffga
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


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From: Geoff Howard
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:22 PM
Subject: RE: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???


Hussayn,
I am not an expert on mod_jk internals, nor am I up to date on where
development has moved in the last few months.  However, the last time I
checked into this I came away with the distinct impression that mod_jk
simply isn't capable of doing those two requirements together.  There was
some talk in jk2 of allowing negated, or even regexp expressions but AKAIK
the ability does not exist currently.
I think given the current options, for the scenario you describe below, your
best bet is to follow Pier's advice:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ApacheModProxy
Geoff
> -Original Message-
> From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by
> apache ???
>
>
> Hy;
>
> When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
> fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
> manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to
> get round it)
>
> Here is the problem:
>
> 1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:
>
>  *.gif, *.html, *.jpg
>
> 2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.
>
>
> Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 
>
> this doesn't help:
>
> 
>JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
>JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
>JkLogLevel error
>JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
>JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
>JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon
> 
>
> because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
> serve the files mentioned above ...
>
> This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):
> 
>JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
>JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
>JkLogLevel error
>JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon
>JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon
>JkMount /cocon/*.foococoon
>...
> 
>
> The list could potentially go down endlessly.
> There MUST be an obvious solution to this!
>
> Anyone can help me here ?
>
> regards, Hussayn
>
> --
> Dr. Hussayn Dabbous
> SAXESS Software Design GmbH
> Neuenhöfer Allee 125
> 50935 Köln
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RE: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Geoff Howard]

Title: RE: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???






Hussayn, 


I am not an expert on mod_jk internals, nor am I up to date on where development has moved in the last few months.  However, the last time I checked into this I came away with the distinct impression that mod_jk simply isn't capable of doing those two requirements together.  There was some talk in jk2 of allowing negated, or even regexp expressions but AKAIK the ability does not exist currently.  

I think given the current options, for the scenario you describe below, your best bet is to follow Pier's advice: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ApacheModProxy

Geoff


> -Original Message-

> From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:14 PM

> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by 

> apache ???

> 

> 

> Hy;

> 

> When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following

> fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not

> manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to 

> get round it)

> 

> Here is the problem:

> 

> 1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:

> 

>  *.gif, *.html, *.jpg

> 

> 2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.

> 

> 

> Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 

> 

> this doesn't help:

> 

> 

>    JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties

>    JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log

>    JkLogLevel error

>    JkMount /cocoon   cocoon

>    JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon

>    JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon

> 

> 

> because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall

> serve the files mentioned above ...

> 

> This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):

> 

>    JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties

>    JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log

>    JkLogLevel error

>    JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon

>    JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon

>    JkMount /cocon/*.foo    cocoon

>    ...

> 

> 

> The list could potentially go down endlessly.

> There MUST be an obvious solution to this!

> 

> Anyone can help me here ?

> 

> regards, Hussayn

> 

> -- 

> Dr. Hussayn Dabbous

> SAXESS Software Design GmbH

> Neuenhöfer Allee 125

> 50935 Köln

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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Christoph Gaffga]

Hi,

I'm using RewriteCond and RewriteRule in my apache config for that purpose.
(http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#RewriteCond)
(see also http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#RewriteCond)

You can use -f with RewriteCond to check if the file exists, and if, catch
it from hd.
Something like the following should work:

RewriteCond /your/docroot/dir1/%{REQUEST_FILENAME}  -f
RewriteRule ^(.+)  /your/docroot/dir1/$1  [L]

hope that helps

Christoph Gaffga
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




- Original Message -
From: "SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:14 PM
Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???


> Hy;
>
> When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
> fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
> manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to get round it)
>
> Here is the problem:
>
> 1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:
>
>  *.gif, *.html, *.jpg
>
> 2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.
>
>
> Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 
>
> this doesn't help:
>
> 
>JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
>JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
>JkLogLevel error
>JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
>JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
>JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon
> 
>
> because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
> serve the files mentioned above ...
>
> This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):
> 
>JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
>JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
>JkLogLevel error
>JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon
>JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon
>JkMount /cocon/*.foococoon
>...
> 
>
> The list could potentially go down endlessly.
> There MUST be an obvious solution to this!
>
> Anyone can help me here ?
>
> regards, Hussayn
>
> --
> Dr. Hussayn Dabbous
> SAXESS Software Design GmbH
> Neuenhöfer Allee 125
> 50935 Köln
> Telefon: +49-221-56011-0
> Fax: +49-221-56011-20
> E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Chris Wilkes]

Fixing the top posting a little bit...

> >Here's what I did, its just for the images but you could extend it to
> >anything:
> >
> >Create a new website called "images.examples.com" in your
> >httpd.conf file.  Here's some snippets of my Apache2 one:
> > 
> > ServerName  www.example.com
> > # this all goes to cocoon, but need a docroot anyway
> > DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/example
> > # send all these requests to the coyote connector
> > JkMount /* cocoon
> >   
> >   
> > ServerName  images.example.com
> > DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/example
> >   
> >So now when a request comes in you'll have Apache handle it differently
> >for "www" vs "images"
> >
> >Its not that elegant to have references to
> >"http://static.example.com/path/to/myhelp.html"; but hey, it gets the job
> >done.  You can tell cocoon to throw in the "static" a href for you so it
> >wouldn't be that much work.
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:46:52PM +0100, SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:
> Hy,
> 
> Your last comment sounds very promising.
> How could i let cocoon throw in the "static" refs ???
> Wouldn't that mean i need cocoon to find the hrefs and
> do some replacement stuff there. Or how would i do that?
> any pointers to howto, docs or so ?

My needs were pretty simple where I wanted to have some standard images
on a page so I included it in the XSLT to make the webpage.  Not sure if
that's the correct way of doing it, in fact I'm a little concerned that I
might be using XSLTs in a way that they shouldn't be used:

  
 Horizontal guides 
http://images.example.com/blue.gif";

http://images.example.com/white.gif";>
  

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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Christoph Gaffga]

Hi,

I'm using RewriteCond and RewriteRule in my apache config for that purpose.
(http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#RewriteCond)
(see also http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_rewrite.html#RewriteCond)

You can use -f with RewriteCond to check if the file exists, and if, catch
it from hd.
Something like the following should work:

RewriteCond /your/docroot/dir1/%{REQUEST_FILENAME}  -f
RewriteRule ^(.+)  /your/docroot/dir1/$1  [L]

hope that helps

Christoph Gaffga
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- Original Message -
From: "SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:14 PM
Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???


> Hy;
>
> When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
> fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
> manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to get round it)
>
> Here is the problem:
>
> 1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:
>
>  *.gif, *.html, *.jpg
>
> 2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.
>
>
> Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 
>
> this doesn't help:
>
> 
>JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
>JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
>JkLogLevel error
>JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
>JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
>JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon
> 
>
> because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
> serve the files mentioned above ...
>
> This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):
> 
>JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
>JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
>JkLogLevel error
>JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon
>JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon
>JkMount /cocon/*.foococoon
>...
> 
>
> The list could potentially go down endlessly.
> There MUST be an obvious solution to this!
>
> Anyone can help me here ?
>
> regards, Hussayn
>
> --
> Dr. Hussayn Dabbous
> SAXESS Software Design GmbH
> Neuenhöfer Allee 125
> 50935 Köln
> Telefon: +49-221-56011-0
> Fax: +49-221-56011-20
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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

Hey, Lajos;

i see we are all very creative people ;-)
Another cool idea how to get around the problem.

The one thing i am *really* uncomfortable with this
solution is the sequence:

1.) browser requests .img
2.) apache forwards request to tomcat
3.) tomcat forwards request to cocoon
4.) cocoon processes and redirects.
5.) apache redirects
6.) browser calls apache
7.) apache serves the file


hmm. performance again ??


i really would prefer something like:

1.) browser requests .img
2.) apache serves the file

ill need to switch on my hackers-brain-partition ;-)
Thanks again for your answers...

regards, hussayn


Lajos wrote:

Hi Hussayn -

Here is what I do in almost every cocoon app I do:


 


 



 


 


Any gif or css (and you can do the same for jpg, js, etc.) gets 
redirected to the appropriate directory off the webserver root, and 
hence is served by Apache. So, under Apache's DocumentRoot I have 
/images, /styles, /scripts, etc., etc.

Regards,

Lajos


SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:

hy,

thats a very pragmatic idea. i like such approaches.
but, hmm... wouldn't this need lots of "static" links
in your pages ???

i mean, you really must point to the myapp-static pages
with absolute links. What about maintenance ... ???

seems as if i need to do it in this way, or let cocoon
serve everything ;-(

Maybe i can plugin something in to apache, or would it be
a big problem to get mod_JK do what i want (hacking ...) ???
I'll go and ask the apache-group ...
and report back, what i get from there maybe in a Wiki ;-) ?

anyway thanks for the tip...

regards, hussayn


Luca Morandini wrote:


Hussayn,

I know it is not a smart solution, but it worked for me.

1) Setup mod_jk to redirect everything starting with "myapp" to 
Tomcat/Cocoon
2) Setup an alias named "myapp-static" pointed to a directory 
containing your static files
3) Use URI like "/myapp/dynamic.htlm" for dynamic content and URI 
like "/myapp-static/static.html" for static content

This has the advantage of scaling up well: we have three web-servers 
serving the static content ("/myapp-static/*") and one
app-server serving the Cocoon-generated content ("/myapp/*").

Regards.

-
   Luca Morandini
   GIS Consultant
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html
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From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???


Hy;

When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to get 
round it)

Here is the problem:

1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:

*.gif, *.html, *.jpg

2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.


Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 

this doesn't help:


  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon


because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
serve the files mentioned above ...

This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):

  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*.foococoon
  ...


The list could potentially go down endlessly.
There MUST be an obvious solution to this!

Anyone can help me here ?

regards, Hussayn

--
Dr. Hussayn Dabbous
SAXESS Software Design GmbH
Neuenhöfer Allee 125
50935 Köln
Telefon: +49-221-56011-0
Fax: +49-221-56011-20
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RE: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Luca Morandini]

> -Original Message-
> From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache
> ???

> thats a very pragmatic idea. i like such approaches.
> but, hmm... wouldn't this need lots of "static" links
> in your pages ???
> i mean, you really must point to the myapp-static pages
> with absolute links. What about maintenance ... ???

Not really, I've put up this URIs in global parameter and refer to these variables in 
my XSLs: just a change in one XML file if you
want to change these URIs.
BTW, this way is already described in the Cocoon FAQ 
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/faq-configure-environment.html#faq-4


> I'll go and ask the apache-group ...
> and report back, what i get from there maybe in a Wiki ;-) ?

If you find something better, please, report it back in order to change 
afore-mentioned FAQ.

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>
>
> hy,
>
>
>
> seems as if i need to do it in this way, or let cocoon
> serve everything ;-(
>
> Maybe i can plugin something in to apache, or would it be
> a big problem to get mod_JK do what i want (hacking ...) ???


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RE: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Luca Morandini]

Lajos,

sure this is more elegant, but also slower than using the web-server directly... I 
hate going back to the Application server if not
absolutely necessary :(

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> -Original Message-
> From: Lajos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache
> ???
>
>
> Hi Hussayn -
>
> Here is what I do in almost every cocoon app I do:
>
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   
> 
>
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   
> 
>
> Any gif or css (and you can do the same for jpg, js, etc.) gets
> redirected to the appropriate directory off the webserver root, and
> hence is served by Apache. So, under Apache's DocumentRoot I have
> /images, /styles, /scripts, etc., etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lajos
>
>
> SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:
> > hy,
> >
> > thats a very pragmatic idea. i like such approaches.
> > but, hmm... wouldn't this need lots of "static" links
> > in your pages ???
> >
> > i mean, you really must point to the myapp-static pages
> > with absolute links. What about maintenance ... ???
> >
> > seems as if i need to do it in this way, or let cocoon
> > serve everything ;-(
> >
> > Maybe i can plugin something in to apache, or would it be
> > a big problem to get mod_JK do what i want (hacking ...) ???
> > I'll go and ask the apache-group ...
> > and report back, what i get from there maybe in a Wiki ;-) ?
> >
> > anyway thanks for the tip...
> >
> > regards, hussayn
> >
> >
> > Luca Morandini wrote:
> >
> >> Hussayn,
> >>
> >> I know it is not a smart solution, but it worked for me.
> >>
> >> 1) Setup mod_jk to redirect everything starting with "myapp" to
> >> Tomcat/Cocoon
> >> 2) Setup an alias named "myapp-static" pointed to a directory
> >> containing your static files
> >> 3) Use URI like "/myapp/dynamic.htlm" for dynamic content and URI like
> >> "/myapp-static/static.html" for static content
> >>
> >> This has the advantage of scaling up well: we have three web-servers
> >> serving the static content ("/myapp-static/*") and one
> >> app-server serving the Cocoon-generated content ("/myapp/*").
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >>
> >> ---------
> >>Luca Morandini
> >>GIS Consultant
> >>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html
> >> -
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:14 PM
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hy;
> >>>
> >>> When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
> >>> fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
> >>> manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to get
> >>> round it)
> >>>
> >>> Here is the problem:
> >>>
> >>> 1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:
> >>>
> >>> *.gif, *.html, *.jpg
> >>>
> >>> 2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 
> >>>
> >>> this doesn't help:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>   JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
> >>>   JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
> >>>   JkLogLevel error
> >>>   JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
> >>>   JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
> >>>   JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
> >>> serve the files mentioned above ...
> >>>
> >>> This is not compl

Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Lajos]

Hi Hussayn -

Here is what I do in almost every cocoon app I do:


 


 



 


 


Any gif or css (and you can do the same for jpg, js, etc.) gets 
redirected to the appropriate directory off the webserver root, and 
hence is served by Apache. So, under Apache's DocumentRoot I have 
/images, /styles, /scripts, etc., etc.

Regards,

Lajos


SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:
hy,

thats a very pragmatic idea. i like such approaches.
but, hmm... wouldn't this need lots of "static" links
in your pages ???

i mean, you really must point to the myapp-static pages
with absolute links. What about maintenance ... ???

seems as if i need to do it in this way, or let cocoon
serve everything ;-(

Maybe i can plugin something in to apache, or would it be
a big problem to get mod_JK do what i want (hacking ...) ???
I'll go and ask the apache-group ...
and report back, what i get from there maybe in a Wiki ;-) ?

anyway thanks for the tip...

regards, hussayn


Luca Morandini wrote:


Hussayn,

I know it is not a smart solution, but it worked for me.

1) Setup mod_jk to redirect everything starting with "myapp" to 
Tomcat/Cocoon
2) Setup an alias named "myapp-static" pointed to a directory 
containing your static files
3) Use URI like "/myapp/dynamic.htlm" for dynamic content and URI like 
"/myapp-static/static.html" for static content

This has the advantage of scaling up well: we have three web-servers 
serving the static content ("/myapp-static/*") and one
app-server serving the Cocoon-generated content ("/myapp/*").

Regards.

-
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   GIS Consultant
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-Original Message-
From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???


Hy;

When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to get 
round it)

Here is the problem:

1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:

*.gif, *.html, *.jpg

2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.


Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 

this doesn't help:


  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon


because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
serve the files mentioned above ...

This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):

  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*.foococoon
  ...


The list could potentially go down endlessly.
There MUST be an obvious solution to this!

Anyone can help me here ?

regards, Hussayn

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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

Hy,

Your last comment sounds very promising.
How could i let cocoon throw in the "static" refs ???
Wouldn't that mean i need cocoon to find the hrefs and
do some replacement stuff there. Or how would i do that?
any pointers to howto, docs or so ?

regards, hussayn

> Its not that elegant to have references to
> "http://static.example.com/path/to/myhelp.html"; but hey, it gets
> the job done.  You can tell cocoon to throw in the "static" a
> href for you so it wouldn't be that much work.


Chris Wilkes wrote:

On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:14:22PM +0100, SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:


Here is the problem:

1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:

   *.gif, *.html, *.jpg

2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.



I ran into the same thing and from what I could find out is that you
really want a "!" operator on the JkMount directive.



Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 


...


The list could potentially go down endlessly.
There MUST be an obvious solution to this!



Here's what I did, its just for the images but you could extend it to
anything:

Create a new website called "images.examples.com" in your
httpd.conf file.  Here's some snippets of my Apache2 one:
	
 ServerName  www.example.com
 # this all goes to cocoon, but need a docroot anyway
 DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/example
 # send all these requests to the coyote connector
 JkMount /* cocoon
   
   
 ServerName  images.example.com
 DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/example
   
So now when a request comes in you'll have Apache handle it differently
for "www" vs "images"

Its not that elegant to have references to
"http://static.example.com/path/to/myhelp.html"; but hey, it gets the job
done.  You can tell cocoon to throw in the "static" a href for you so it
wouldn't be that much work.

Chris

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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

hy,

thats a very pragmatic idea. i like such approaches.
but, hmm... wouldn't this need lots of "static" links
in your pages ???

i mean, you really must point to the myapp-static pages
with absolute links. What about maintenance ... ???

seems as if i need to do it in this way, or let cocoon
serve everything ;-(

Maybe i can plugin something in to apache, or would it be
a big problem to get mod_JK do what i want (hacking ...) ???
I'll go and ask the apache-group ...
and report back, what i get from there maybe in a Wiki ;-) ?

anyway thanks for the tip...

regards, hussayn


Luca Morandini wrote:

Hussayn,

I know it is not a smart solution, but it worked for me.

1) Setup mod_jk to redirect everything starting with "myapp" to Tomcat/Cocoon
2) Setup an alias named "myapp-static" pointed to a directory containing your static files
3) Use URI like "/myapp/dynamic.htlm" for dynamic content and URI like "/myapp-static/static.html" for static content

This has the advantage of scaling up well: we have three web-servers serving the static content ("/myapp-static/*") and one
app-server serving the Cocoon-generated content ("/myapp/*").

Regards.

-
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   GIS Consultant
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-Original Message-
From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???


Hy;

When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to get round it)

Here is the problem:

1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:

*.gif, *.html, *.jpg

2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.


Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 

this doesn't help:


  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon


because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
serve the files mentioned above ...

This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):

  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*.foococoon
  ...


The list could potentially go down endlessly.
There MUST be an obvious solution to this!

Anyone can help me here ?

regards, Hussayn

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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[Chris Wilkes]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:14:22PM +0100, SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:
> 
> Here is the problem:
> 
> 1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:
> 
> *.gif, *.html, *.jpg
> 
> 2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.

I ran into the same thing and from what I could find out is that you
really want a "!" operator on the JkMount directive.

> Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 
...
> The list could potentially go down endlessly.
> There MUST be an obvious solution to this!

Here's what I did, its just for the images but you could extend it to
anything:

Create a new website called "images.examples.com" in your
httpd.conf file.  Here's some snippets of my Apache2 one:

 ServerName  www.example.com
 # this all goes to cocoon, but need a docroot anyway
 DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/example
 # send all these requests to the coyote connector
 JkMount /* cocoon
   
   
 ServerName  images.example.com
 DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/example
   
So now when a request comes in you'll have Apache handle it differently
for "www" vs "images"

Its not that elegant to have references to
"http://static.example.com/path/to/myhelp.html"; but hey, it gets the job
done.  You can tell cocoon to throw in the "static" a href for you so it
wouldn't be that much work.

Chris

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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

Hy;

yes, it is a typo...
but my problem remains when i correct the typo ..

remember: i want to EXCLUDE some files to be forwarded to cocoon,
and i didn't find HOW i can get JK to do this...

JkMount /cocoon/*  cocoon <== mount everything
JkNoMount *.gif, *.jpg cocoon <== but not these

while the first directive is well documented, the secnd
is what i need, but it doesn't exist. so the question is,
how can i get what i want ? ;-(

regards, hussayn


Ryan Hoegg wrote:

SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:


  JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon




Not sure you meant cocon here... typo in your e-mail or your config?


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[Luca Morandini]

Hussayn,

I know it is not a smart solution, but it worked for me.

1) Setup mod_jk to redirect everything starting with "myapp" to Tomcat/Cocoon
2) Setup an alias named "myapp-static" pointed to a directory containing your static 
files
3) Use URI like "/myapp/dynamic.htlm" for dynamic content and URI like 
"/myapp-static/static.html" for static content

This has the advantage of scaling up well: we have three web-servers serving the 
static content ("/myapp-static/*") and one
app-server serving the Cocoon-generated content ("/myapp/*").

Regards.

-
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   GIS Consultant
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html
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> -Original Message-
> From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???
>
>
> Hy;
>
> When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
> fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
> manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to get round it)
>
> Here is the problem:
>
> 1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:
>
>  *.gif, *.html, *.jpg
>
> 2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.
>
>
> Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 
>
> this doesn't help:
>
> 
>JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
>JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
>JkLogLevel error
>JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
>JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
>JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon
> 
>
> because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
> serve the files mentioned above ...
>
> This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):
> 
>JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
>JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
>JkLogLevel error
>JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon
>JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon
>JkMount /cocon/*.foococoon
>...
> 
>
> The list could potentially go down endlessly.
> There MUST be an obvious solution to this!
>
> Anyone can help me here ?
>
> regards, Hussayn
>
> --
> Dr. Hussayn Dabbous
> SAXESS Software Design GmbH
> Neuenhöfer Allee 125
> 50935 Köln
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Re: how can i get static files REALLY been processed by apache ???

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SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote:


  JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon



Not sure you meant cocon here... typo in your e-mail or your config?


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[SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous]

Hy;

When i setup apache/tomcat/cocoon, i run into following
fancy problem. Although what i want seems trivial, but i did not
manage to get it done (I might not know the magic command to get round it)

Here is the problem:

1.) I want all static files been served by apache, i.e.:

*.gif, *.html, *.jpg

2.) I want *ALL* other files be served by cocoon.


Now how should i setup mod_jk.conf 

this doesn't help:


  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/  cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*  cocoon


because it redirects everything to cocoon. But apache shall
serve the files mentioned above ...

This is not complete (Indeed it can never be complete):

  JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
  JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
  JkLogLevel error
  JkMount /cocoon/*.xml   cocoon
  JkMount /cocoon/*.jsp   cocoon
  JkMount /cocon/*.foococoon
  ...


The list could potentially go down endlessly.
There MUST be an obvious solution to this!

Anyone can help me here ?

regards, Hussayn

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