Re: [CODE4LIB] Music @ ACRL
Try hiring this guy: http://www.marcfields.com/home.htm Brad -Original Message- From: Joseph Lucia [mailto:joseph.lu...@villanova.edu] Sent: November-02-10 1:17 PM To: tclc...@list.tclclibs.org; ngc4...@listserv.nd.edu; CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU; vufind-gene...@lists.sourceforge.net; Web4Lib Subject: [VuFind-General] Music @ ACRL Pardon the off-topic cross-posting. I am working to organize a musical event at the upcoming ACRL biennial meeting in Philadelphia, in a downtown venue near the convention on Thursday or Friday evening. I have already recruited 4 other librarian / library-employed musicians. I'm trying to put together a rock / pop / blues / RB ensemble and we are especially in need of keyboards, maybe horns, and some singers at this point. But we are still open to any and all suggestions. The overarching theme of the event will be Marc Fields Bad Data, performing tunes from the Great Librarian Songbook but we're still open for sub-themes suggestions. If you have even modest musical chops, are interested in being part of something that will surely be memorable (in a bad or good way I'm not yet sure) and could make it to a rehearsal weekend in the Philadelphia area in February, please let me know. It's your chance to get down with your bad self and really rock the bun-loving set! Sorry about that. Reply directly to me if you want more info or want to volunteer as a performer. * Joe Lucia University Librarian Villanova University joseph.lu...@villanova.edu -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ VuFind-General mailing list vufind-gene...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vufind-general
[CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
In an effort to answer the question, How 'great' are the Great Books?, I have created the beginnings of a crowd sourced survey, and it would be great if y'all were to beta test it for me -- http://bit.ly/bPQHIg The list of Great Books of the Western World was based on 102 great ideas. My survey randomly selects one of the great ideas, two of the Great Books, and asks the you to select the greater work. All the while it returns your great books as well as the overall cumulative results. So far Montaigne's Essays is the greatest with Shakespeare's Antony And Cleopatra close behind. What I'm trying to do underneath is compare people's opinions with a mathematical model based on TFIDF. After getting enough votes (100's of thousands, if not more) I want to see how well the model coincides with people's perceptions. I'm also looking for ways to make the survey more fun to use. If y'all could give me any suggestions, then at would be... great. Vote early. Vote often. It's easy. If everybody here answered 10 survey questions, that would result in close to 15,000 votes. The more you vote the more interesting your results will be. -- Eric Lease Morgan University of Notre Dame
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
In an effort to answer the question, How 'great' are the Great Books?, I have created the beginnings of a crowd sourced survey, and it would be great if y'all were to beta test it for me -- http://bit.ly/bPQHIg ...So far Montaigne's Essays is the greatest with Shakespeare's Antony And Cleopatra is close behind. Already Rousseau's Discourse Upon The Origin And The Foundation Of The Inequality Among Mankind has displaced Shakespeare. Keep up the good work, and thank you. -- Eric Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
This is a neat idea. Suddenly, though, I am reminded of one of the classic voting paradoxes--this approach to ranking the great works (or kittens [1]) is more or less equivalent, on average, to the Condorcet method of voting [2], where every candidate faces every other candidate in a simple majority election, and the winner of the overall election is the one who wins the plurality of pairwise contests. One problem with the approach is that you could end up in a situation where, on average, the population thinks that candidate A is better than candidate B, B is better than C, and C is better than A -- the so-called Condorcet Paradox [3]. On the other hand, it's been proved that no social choice technique can meet all of the desirable properties of an ideal voting system, if there are more than two candidates [4], so pick your poison, I guess. -Dre. [1] http://kittenwar.com/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_method [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_paradox [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow%27s_impossibility_theorem Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu 11/4/2010 9:12 AM In an effort to answer the question, How 'great' are the Great Books?, I have created the beginnings of a crowd sourced survey, and it would be great if y'all were to beta test it for me -- http://bit.ly/bPQHIg The list of Great Books of the Western World was based on 102 great ideas. My survey randomly selects one of the great ideas, two of the Great Books, and asks the you to select the greater work. All the while it returns your great books as well as the overall cumulative results. So far Montaigne's Essays is the greatest with Shakespeare's Antony And Cleopatra close behind. What I'm trying to do underneath is compare people's opinions with a mathematical model based on TFIDF. After getting enough votes (100's of thousands, if not more) I want to see how well the model coincides with people's perceptions. I'm also looking for ways to make the survey more fun to use. If y'all could give me any suggestions, then at would be... great. Vote early. Vote often. It's easy. If everybody here answered 10 survey questions, that would result in close to 15,000 votes. The more you vote the more interesting your results will be. -- Eric Lease Morgan University of Notre Dame
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Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
Hi, Eric. I suspect that many of us have only read a (small) fraction of these books. (But since your survey links directly to the full text, we can now only claim the limits of time as our excuse.) Are you tracking how many times people choose I don't know? I'm sure that is the most popular book. Maybe you could first ask which of the books we've read, and then have us vote just amongst those titles? Cheers, Keith On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: In an effort to answer the question, How 'great' are the Great Books?, I have created the beginnings of a crowd sourced survey, and it would be great if y'all were to beta test it for me -- http://bit.ly/bPQHIg I'm also looking for ways to make the survey more fun to use. If y'all could give me any suggestions, then at would be... great.
[CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available
Hello everyone, my name is Migell Acosta and I am new to the list. I am at the County of Los Angeles Public Library. I am interested in developing our own automated check in system because the commercial offerings are a bit pricey and not very innovative. So, my task will be to write the user interface, but I'd like to avoid writing the SIP2 component from scratch. Does anyone know of a SIP2 SDK or software library available as FOSS or paid license? I'm not too picky about programming language. We have a developer on staff who can adapt to a few different languages. Thanks very much. Migell Acosta County of Los Angeles Public Library Interim Assistant Director, Information Systems 562-940-8418 maco...@library.lacounty.gov
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Keith Jenkins wrote: In an effort to answer the question, How 'great' are the Great Books?, I have created the beginnings of a crowd sourced survey, and it would be great if y'all were to beta test it for me -- http://bit.ly/bPQHIg ..Are you tracking how many times people choose I don't know? I'm sure that is the most popular book. Maybe you could first ask which of the books we've read, and then have us vote just amongst those titles? No, I'm not currently tracking I don't know, but I believe that is trivial enough to do. Hmmm... Thanks! -- Eric Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available
Hi Migell, So, my task will be to write the user interface, but I'd like to avoid writing the SIP2 component from scratch. If you are developing your own check-in system, there will be an integrated library system (ILS) SIP2 component (the SIP2 server) and a user interface SIP2 component (a SIP2 client). Does your ILS already come with a SIP2 (or NCIP) server or are you talking about building the server component too? -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Migell Acosta Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:19 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available Hello everyone, my name is Migell Acosta and I am new to the list. I am at the County of Los Angeles Public Library. I am interested in developing our own automated check in system because the commercial offerings are a bit pricey and not very innovative. So, my task will be to write the user interface, but I'd like to avoid writing the SIP2 component from scratch. Does anyone know of a SIP2 SDK or software library available as FOSS or paid license? I'm not too picky about programming language. We have a developer on staff who can adapt to a few different languages. Thanks very much. Migell Acosta County of Los Angeles Public Library Interim Assistant Director, Information Systems 562-940-8418 maco...@library.lacounty.gov
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
I'm also looking for ways to make the survey more fun to use. If y'all could give me any suggestions, then at would be... great. I like the concept. One thing that jumps out at me is that there is an issue if a person has read only one of the books mentioned and votes for it. If a person has not read both books, the comparison is not meaningful. In terms of making the survey more fun, that's hard. Right now it just records your answer. Maybe a tiny bubble that appears momentarily saying where your choice ranked? kyle
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
I would imagine this gets to the larger issue that the majority of people taking the survey haven't read these books. (Or perhaps this is a personal bias...but I think I am responsibly well read.) If you were to use a more modern selection of books, like the 100 best novels of the 20st century, perhaps the survey would be more relevant to those taking the survey. Still, a very cool idea. Cheers, Paul From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Lease Morgan [emor...@nd.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:19 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Keith Jenkins wrote: In an effort to answer the question, How 'great' are the Great Books?, I have created the beginnings of a crowd sourced survey, and it would be great if y'all were to beta test it for me -- http://bit.ly/bPQHIg ..Are you tracking how many times people choose I don't know? I'm sure that is the most popular book. Maybe you could first ask which of the books we've read, and then have us vote just amongst those titles? No, I'm not currently tracking I don't know, but I believe that is trivial enough to do. Hmmm... Thanks! -- Eric Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
i agree with keith's comments about having a 'what have you read?' portion first. I had to answer i don't know to most of the questions because if I hadn't read both of the works, i didn't want to choose one over the other. i have a master's in English and i think only one out of 20 comparisons i answered included two works i had read. From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Lease Morgan [emor...@nd.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:19 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Keith Jenkins wrote: In an effort to answer the question, How 'great' are the Great Books?, I have created the beginnings of a crowd sourced survey, and it would be great if y'all were to beta test it for me -- http://bit.ly/bPQHIg ..Are you tracking how many times people choose I don't know? I'm sure that is the most popular book. Maybe you could first ask which of the books we've read, and then have us vote just amongst those titles? No, I'm not currently tracking I don't know, but I believe that is trivial enough to do. Hmmm... Thanks! -- Eric Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:22 AM, McAulay, Elizabeth wrote: http://bit.ly/bPQHIg i had a lot of fun playing with this survey. is it an infinite survey, though -- no end to the questions? Correct, it is an endless survey. 8-) BTW, Chaucer's Canterbury Tales and Shakespeare's Macbeth are now #1 and #2. -- Eric M.
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
i had a lot of fun playing with this survey. is it an infinite survey, though -- no end to the questions? From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Lease Morgan [emor...@nd.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:24 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books In an effort to answer the question, How 'great' are the Great Books?, I have created the beginnings of a crowd sourced survey, and it would be great if y'all were to beta test it for me -- http://bit.ly/bPQHIg ...So far Montaigne's Essays is the greatest with Shakespeare's Antony And Cleopatra is close behind. Already Rousseau's Discourse Upon The Origin And The Foundation Of The Inequality Among Mankind has displaced Shakespeare. Keep up the good work, and thank you. -- Eric Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
I would imagine this gets to the larger issue that the majority of people taking the survey haven't read these books. I'm guessing few people have. But then again, the news is full of detailed statistics on how peoples' opinions on complex economic, policy, scientific, etc issues that hardly anyone has any expertise on. I always enjoy hearing what needs to be done in countries that few people could point out on a map, let alone say anything intelligent about what is there. If the concern is pollution of the results by uninformed votes, tossing in a few fake works here and there and then not counting any results from people who indicate a preference on such comparisons would help. I suspect it would also reduce the sample size by at least 90% ;-) kyle
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Paul Butler (pbutler3) wrote: I would imagine this gets to the larger issue that the majority of people taking the survey haven't read these books. (Or perhaps this is a personal bias...but I think I am responsibly well read.) If you were to use a more modern selection of books, like the 100 best novels of the 20st century, perhaps the survey would be more relevant to those taking the survey. Selecting a set of more modern books is Plan B, and the Harvard Classics may be a good set to use. Right now I want to evaluate the greatness of the Great Books -- a set of literature brought together in 1952 as a tool to support one's liberal arts education. I figure if I can create a model of greatness -- which is very broadly defined -- then I might be able to apply the model to other corpus. For example, we might be able to determine other qualities of books such as colorfulness, degree of reading difficulty, or appropriateness for a particular set of students. Fun?! -- Eric M.
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
I hypothesize that until you get your 100,000 results, that authors like Chaucer and Shakespeare will rise to the top because they are the ones we've all read; they're going to get more total votes because more people will have read them. Are you capturing the losses as well as the wins here? Can you tell the difference between no one has read this book and this book is not as great? How do you control for this? Ken -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Lease Morgan Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:29 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:22 AM, McAulay, Elizabeth wrote: http://bit.ly/bPQHIg i had a lot of fun playing with this survey. is it an infinite survey, though -- no end to the questions? Correct, it is an endless survey. 8-) BTW, Chaucer's Canterbury Tales and Shakespeare's Macbeth are now #1 and #2. -- Eric M.
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Ken Irwin wrote: Are you capturing the losses as well as the wins here? Can you tell the difference between no one has read this book and this book is not as great? Ken, you are the second person to mention this. Hmmm... Good thing this is only beta. 'Will investigate recording I don't know as a response. Thank you. -- Eric M.
[CODE4LIB] Embedding metadata in PDFs
Hi, I was curious if anyone is incorporating a step where you embed metadata into PDFs submitted to your repositories--particularly in cases where you are batch loading them? I'm researching potential tools for doing so (both Doc Info and XMP metadata), for material that we are batch loading in DSpace. We want to ensure that PDFs we load in a batch fashion are as usable as they can be, and from what we've seen so far, that would include embedding metadata in the PDFs themselves. I feel a bit like I'm following something down a rabbit hole, with all the reading I've done today, so I'm hoping that hearing what others are doing will help further direct our research. Thanks for any help you can provide, either for further reading, or for tools you might use. -- HARDY POTTINGER pottinge...@umsystem.edu University of Missouri Library Systems http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/ No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. --Turkish proverb
Re: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available
Yes, LibLime took that code that I wrote for the Evergreen OpenILS project and incorporated it into the Koha codebase without attribution. Once it was finished, it was pretty stable, and there have been very few problems with it, although I have heard that there might be problems with the checksum code on 64-bit servers. - David On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 14:18, Schneider, Wayne wschnei...@hclib.org wrote: There is a perl implementation of the server (or ACS, in SIP terminology) side, which I believe is incorporated into the Koha code. A CVS repository is available from SourceForge (http://openncip.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openncip/). It doesn't appear to be too actively worked on at the moment. I don't know if how helpful it will be, since you're probably looking at libraries for the client side, but there may be useful stuff in there for you. wayne -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Migell Acosta Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:19 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available Hello everyone, my name is Migell Acosta and I am new to the list. I am at the County of Los Angeles Public Library. I am interested in developing our own automated check in system because the commercial offerings are a bit pricey and not very innovative. So, my task will be to write the user interface, but I'd like to avoid writing the SIP2 component from scratch. Does anyone know of a SIP2 SDK or software library available as FOSS or paid license? I'm not too picky about programming language. We have a developer on staff who can adapt to a few different languages. Thanks very much. Migell Acosta County of Los Angeles Public Library Interim Assistant Director, Information Systems 562-940-8418 maco...@library.lacounty.gov
Re: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available
There is a perl implementation of the server (or ACS, in SIP terminology) side, which I believe is incorporated into the Koha code. A CVS repository is available from SourceForge (http://openncip.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openncip/). It doesn't appear to be too actively worked on at the moment. I don't know if how helpful it will be, since you're probably looking at libraries for the client side, but there may be useful stuff in there for you. wayne -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Migell Acosta Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:19 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] SIP2 SDK available Hello everyone, my name is Migell Acosta and I am new to the list. I am at the County of Los Angeles Public Library. I am interested in developing our own automated check in system because the commercial offerings are a bit pricey and not very innovative. So, my task will be to write the user interface, but I'd like to avoid writing the SIP2 component from scratch. Does anyone know of a SIP2 SDK or software library available as FOSS or paid license? I'm not too picky about programming language. We have a developer on staff who can adapt to a few different languages. Thanks very much. Migell Acosta County of Los Angeles Public Library Interim Assistant Director, Information Systems 562-940-8418 maco...@library.lacounty.gov
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:24 AM, McAulay, Elizabeth wrote: i agree with keith's comments about having a 'what have you read?' portion first. I had to answer i don't know to most of the questions because if I hadn't read both of the works, i didn't want to choose one over the other. i have a master's in English and i think only one out of 20 comparisons i answered included two works i had read. If you haven't read one of the books, doesn't that argue for it's lack of 'greatness?' r.
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
Gosh, I hope not. I think it argues for better literature programs in our K-12 and universities -- Elizabeth L. Winter Electronic Resources Coordinator Collection Acquisitions Management Library and Information Center Georgia Institute of Technology email: elizabeth.win...@library.gatech.edu phone: 404.385.0593 fax: 404.894.1723 - Original Message - From: Roberto Hoyle roberto.j.ho...@dartmouth.edu To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 4:03:12 PM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:24 AM, McAulay, Elizabeth wrote: i agree with keith's comments about having a 'what have you read?' portion first. I had to answer i don't know to most of the questions because if I hadn't read both of the works, i didn't want to choose one over the other. i have a master's in English and i think only one out of 20 comparisons i answered included two works i had read. If you haven't read one of the books, doesn't that argue for it's lack of 'greatness?' r.
Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books
Roberto Hoyle roberto.j.ho...@dartmouth.edu wrote: If you haven't read one of the books, doesn't that argue for it's lack of 'greatness?' Elizabeth Winter elizabeth.win...@library.gatech.edu wrote: Gosh, I hope not. I think it argues for better literature programs in our K-12 and universities It also argues for a moratorium on publishing new books until we all have time to catch up. (I'm still working my way through the 5th century B.C.) Keith -- Elizabeth L. Winter Electronic Resources Coordinator Collection Acquisitions Management Library and Information Center Georgia Institute of Technology email: elizabeth.win...@library.gatech.edu phone: 404.385.0593 fax: 404.894.1723 - Original Message - From: Roberto Hoyle roberto.j.ho...@dartmouth.edu To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 4:03:12 PM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:24 AM, McAulay, Elizabeth wrote: i agree with keith's comments about having a 'what have you read?' portion first. I had to answer i don't know to most of the questions because if I hadn't read both of the works, i didn't want to choose one over the other. i have a master's in English and i think only one out of 20 comparisons i answered included two works i had read. r.
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Roberto Hoyle wrote: http://bit.ly/bPQHIg If you haven't read one of the books, doesn't that argue for it's lack of 'greatness?' As Hamlet said, Ay, there's the rub because the definition of greatness is ambiguous. The items in the set of Great Books were selected because they: ...posses them [the great ideas] for a considerable range of ideas, covering a variety of subject matters or disciplines; *and among the great books the greatest are those with the greatest range of imaginative or intellectual content.* [1] In other words, the Great Books are great because they discuss a wide variety of great ideas thoroughly. A great book, according to the Hutchins, is one that elaborate upon many of the core concepts debated throughout Western civilization. Consequently, a great book can be one that no one has read but elaborates on many of the great ideas. [1] Hutchins, Robert Maynard. 1952. Great books of the Western World. Chicago: Encyclopædia Britannica. Volume 3, page 1220. -- Eric Lease Morgan Hesburgh Libraries, University of Notre Dame (574) 631-8604
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If you haven't read one of the books, doesn't that argue for it's lack of 'greatness?' That would imply the most widely read books are great. I shudder to think what the list would look like...
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For what it's worth, I ran across something similar in the Freedom-to-Tinker blog: The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)--an intergovernmental think tank--recently faced this challenge. They were planning a global summit for education leaders that is taking place in Paris today (November 4th), and they wanted to bring fresh thinking from the public to this group. To achieve this goal, the OECD created an idea marketplace at www.allourideas.org, http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/mjs3/finding-best-ideas-world The concept is quite similar. Peter -- Peter Murray peter.mur...@lyrasis.orgtel:+1-678-235-2955 Assistant Directorhttp://dltj.org/about/ Lyrasis --Great Libraries. Strong Communities. Innovative Answers. The Disruptive Library Technology Jesterhttp://dltj.org/ Attrib-Noncomm-Share http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/
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nope. it argues for my not having read a lot of works that used be thought of as really important. From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Roberto Hoyle [roberto.j.ho...@dartmouth.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:03 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:24 AM, McAulay, Elizabeth wrote: i agree with keith's comments about having a 'what have you read?' portion first. I had to answer i don't know to most of the questions because if I hadn't read both of the works, i didn't want to choose one over the other. i have a master's in English and i think only one out of 20 comparisons i answered included two works i had read. If you haven't read one of the books, doesn't that argue for it's lack of 'greatness?' r.
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I felt when I said I had a masters in Literature that I might need to tell you what schools I went to. What score I got on the SAT, etc. The fact that K-12 students read To Kill A Mockingbird instead of Rousseau is a good thing, in my opinion. And I think the majority of the very well read and elite educators also agree, since what was considered great in 1952 is no longer considered the canon anymore. From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Winter [elizabeth.win...@library.gatech.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:05 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books Gosh, I hope not. I think it argues for better literature programs in our K-12 and universities -- Elizabeth L. Winter Electronic Resources Coordinator Collection Acquisitions Management Library and Information Center Georgia Institute of Technology email: elizabeth.win...@library.gatech.edu phone: 404.385.0593 fax: 404.894.1723 - Original Message - From: Roberto Hoyle roberto.j.ho...@dartmouth.edu To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 4:03:12 PM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] how 'great' are the great books On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:24 AM, McAulay, Elizabeth wrote: i agree with keith's comments about having a 'what have you read?' portion first. I had to answer i don't know to most of the questions because if I hadn't read both of the works, i didn't want to choose one over the other. i have a master's in English and i think only one out of 20 comparisons i answered included two works i had read. If you haven't read one of the books, doesn't that argue for it's lack of 'greatness?' r.
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Peter Murray wrote: http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/mjs3/finding-best-ideas-world Peter, thanks! The blog posting inspired me to map where in the world people have voted. First, using a Perl module called Geo::IP I converted IP addresses into latitudes and longitudes -- http://bit.ly/cR11Ev I then output a rudimentary XML file intended to be read by the Google Map API. Finally, I output a pile o' HTML complete with markers -- http://bit.ly/9bYXRA If someone votes from Australia, then their marker ought to show up automatically. It seems as if I am only reaching English speaking people. -- Eric Morgan
