Re: [CODE4LIB] Ontology Question

2011-11-11 Thread Alexander Johannesen
Hiya,

 Is it okay to just use the classes I need or should I include the super 
 classes which they belong to?

I think we also need to define a few concepts here. What do you mean,
include? As far as I can tell, you want to say something like
Here's a few concepts we're using, and their definition is based off
this other ontology over *there* (pointing), but that's not always
the case, so just asking.

Now, Karen is of course right in her take on it, but there's a little
thing that require a bit of focus, and that's how this new ontology is
going to be used. Is it one of these manual labour things where it
doesn't actually require formal definitions as much as a human one, or
is it (however you use the ontology) to be passed through a tool, or
more formally passed through an inferencer?


Regards,

Alex
-- 
 Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps
--- http://shelter.nu/blog/ --
-- http://www.google.com/profiles/alexander.johannesen ---


Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

2011-11-11 Thread Christine Schwartz
Hi Becky,

Is this pre-conference going to be cataloging/metadata training for coders?

Thanks,

Chris

Christine Schwartz
Metadata Librarian
Princeton Theological Seminary Library

 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Becky 
 Yoose
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:14 AM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

 Hey folks,

 There's been increasing discussion and interest about cataloging around
 this community (and others like it) for quite a while. I found some
 co-conspirators and we are planning to propose a pre-conference on
 cataloging/library metadata creation geared towards the huddled code4lib
 masses (otherwise known as coders) who are yearning for knowledge of this
 Darkest of Library Arts.

 We need you help before we post our proposal. We realize that there's a
 wide range of cataloging knowledge and experience in the community, and we
 want to make sure that those interested get the most out of the
 pre-conference. If this pre-conference has perked your interest, can you
 help us in letting us know:

 - What experience do you have with cataloging/library metadata creation?
 - What do you want us to cover? Do you have any questions that you want
 covered?

 This information will help us greatly in how we structure the
 pre-conference both in content and schedule. For now, we're planning a
 half-day pre-conference, but if there's enough interest between beginners
 and more experienced folks, we will consider offering two half-day
 preconferences in order to focus on specific participant needs.

 Feel free to ask questions as well - I'll try to answer them as best as
 possible given what our group has brainstormed so far.

 Thanks for reading,
 Becky
 Official cat[aloger] herder


 ---
 Becky Yoose
 Systems Librarian
 Grinnell College Libraries
 yoose...@grinnell.edu



Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

2011-11-11 Thread a. billey
I work as the metadata wrangler for
CollectiveAccesshttp://collectiveaccess.org/,
and will soon be the metadata/catalog librarian at University of Vermont.

I think a forum/workshop on open source software and code would be really
helpful. In my experience, many folks don't totally understand open source
software and how to manage it once they adopt it.

also, a workshop on metadata project management would be useful.

-Amber

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Christine Schwartz 
catalogingfutu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Becky,

 Is this pre-conference going to be cataloging/metadata training for coders?

 Thanks,

 Chris

 Christine Schwartz
 Metadata Librarian
 Princeton Theological Seminary Library

  From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
 Becky Yoose
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:14 AM
  To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
  Subject: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains
 
  Hey folks,
 
  There's been increasing discussion and interest about cataloging around
  this community (and others like it) for quite a while. I found some
  co-conspirators and we are planning to propose a pre-conference on
  cataloging/library metadata creation geared towards the huddled code4lib
  masses (otherwise known as coders) who are yearning for knowledge of this
  Darkest of Library Arts.
 
  We need you help before we post our proposal. We realize that there's a
  wide range of cataloging knowledge and experience in the community, and
 we
  want to make sure that those interested get the most out of the
  pre-conference. If this pre-conference has perked your interest, can you
  help us in letting us know:
 
  - What experience do you have with cataloging/library metadata creation?
  - What do you want us to cover? Do you have any questions that you want
  covered?
 
  This information will help us greatly in how we structure the
  pre-conference both in content and schedule. For now, we're planning a
  half-day pre-conference, but if there's enough interest between beginners
  and more experienced folks, we will consider offering two half-day
  preconferences in order to focus on specific participant needs.
 
  Feel free to ask questions as well - I'll try to answer them as best as
  possible given what our group has brainstormed so far.
 
  Thanks for reading,
  Becky
  Official cat[aloger] herder
 
 
  ---
  Becky Yoose
  Systems Librarian
  Grinnell College Libraries
  yoose...@grinnell.edu
 



[CODE4LIB] Next-L Enju Leaf 1.0.0 released

2011-11-11 Thread Kosuke Tanabe
Dear all,

Project Next-L (http://www.next-l.jp/), the librarian community in Japan 
proudly announces the release of our open-source integrated library system, 
Next-L Enju Leaf 1.0.0.
https://github.com/nabeta/enju_leaf/tree/1.0

Next-L Enju Leaf is a full-featured ILS built on Ruby on Rails 3.1, Apache Solr 
and their RESTful architecture. A live demo site is at the following site.
http://enju2.slis.keio.ac.jp/?locale=en

Next-L Enju has been adopted by some libraries in Japan, for example, National 
Diet Library (http://iss.ndl.go.jp/) and National Institute for Materials 
Science (https://library.nims.go.jp/).

The latest example is Minamisanriku Library, a public library in Miyagi 
prefecture. It was completely swept away by the tsunami after the huge 
earthquake on March 11,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/argeditor/5688080135/in/set-72157626649048894

and reopened in a temporary location on October 6.
http://english.kyodonews.jp/photos/2011/10/118715.html
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1792320@N23/pool/

The library had not introduced an ILS before, so the librarians who engaged in 
volunteer work to restore the library chose Next-L Enju to organize about 3,000 
donated books.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/water24653jv/6185440740/in/pool-1792320@N23
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53412454@N05/6181365888/in/pool-1792320@N23

If you are interested in our project, Feel free to contact us.

-- 
Kosuke Tanabe


Re: [CODE4LIB] Ontology Question

2011-11-11 Thread Lepczyk, Timothy
Hi,

So, what we are doing is establishing the relationships between people and 
organizations from a set of court cases where slaves sued for their freedom. 
Those interested can get a bit more information here: 
http://digital.wustl.edu/legalencodingproject/about.html. We're interested in 
people's roles in the court cases, but also their roles society and the 
organizations to which they belong.

Our ontology will either be based of CIDOC-CRM or it will be based off some 
CIDOC concepts combined with some FOAF concepts. Optimally, I'd like to only 
use CIDOC if possible. To do that though, is it best to include all of the 
classes which a concept belongs to? For instance, I will use the class 
person. Is it necessary to include the super classes of Actor Persistent 
Item and CRM Entity?

Best,

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Alexander Johannesen
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:08 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Ontology Question

Hiya,

 Is it okay to just use the classes I need or should I include the super 
 classes which they belong to?

I think we also need to define a few concepts here. What do you mean, 
include? As far as I can tell, you want to say something like Here's a few 
concepts we're using, and their definition is based off this other ontology 
over *there* (pointing), but that's not always the case, so just asking.

Now, Karen is of course right in her take on it, but there's a little thing 
that require a bit of focus, and that's how this new ontology is going to be 
used. Is it one of these manual labour things where it doesn't actually require 
formal definitions as much as a human one, or is it (however you use the 
ontology) to be passed through a tool, or more formally passed through an 
inferencer?


Regards,

Alex
--
 Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps
--- http://shelter.nu/blog/ --
-- http://www.google.com/profiles/alexander.johannesen ---


Re: [CODE4LIB] Ontology Question

2011-11-11 Thread Ethan Gruber
Have you considered EAC-CPF?

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Lepczyk, Timothy tlepc...@wustl.eduwrote:

 Hi,

 So, what we are doing is establishing the relationships between people and
 organizations from a set of court cases where slaves sued for their
 freedom. Those interested can get a bit more information here:
 http://digital.wustl.edu/legalencodingproject/about.html. We're
 interested in people's roles in the court cases, but also their roles
 society and the organizations to which they belong.

 Our ontology will either be based of CIDOC-CRM or it will be based off
 some CIDOC concepts combined with some FOAF concepts. Optimally, I'd like
 to only use CIDOC if possible. To do that though, is it best to include all
 of the classes which a concept belongs to? For instance, I will use the
 class person. Is it necessary to include the super classes of Actor
 Persistent Item and CRM Entity?

 Best,

 Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
 Alexander Johannesen
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:08 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Ontology Question

 Hiya,

  Is it okay to just use the classes I need or should I include the super
 classes which they belong to?

 I think we also need to define a few concepts here. What do you mean,
 include? As far as I can tell, you want to say something like Here's a
 few concepts we're using, and their definition is based off this other
 ontology over *there* (pointing), but that's not always the case, so just
 asking.

 Now, Karen is of course right in her take on it, but there's a little
 thing that require a bit of focus, and that's how this new ontology is
 going to be used. Is it one of these manual labour things where it doesn't
 actually require formal definitions as much as a human one, or is it
 (however you use the ontology) to be passed through a tool, or more
 formally passed through an inferencer?


 Regards,

 Alex
 --
  Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps
 --- http://shelter.nu/blog/ --
 -- http://www.google.com/profiles/alexander.johannesen ---



Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

2011-11-11 Thread Laura Smart
As a co-conspirator let me jump in here. In answer to Christine's
question - yes.  This is cataloging for non-catalogers - specifically
geared to coders. Hence the subject line Cataloging4Coders (grin).
I think people are somehow misunderstanding Becky's request for input.

The idea is to further understanding of cataloger culture and
cataloging concepts rather than teach how to do descriptive
cataloging in x standard.  That would take way more than a half-day
or one-day workshop.  Plus there are already tons of great courses out
there by SAA, ALCTS, SCTP, etc.   I point the people interested in EAD
in that direction for training.

This CODE4LIB preconference would help coders deal with the metadata
they've got.  It's an explanation of why library metadata is the way
it is rather than a how-to roll your own.  The existing knowledge and
skills of those wanting to attend will determine how detailed we get.
 We're are trying to get a sense of the background knowledge of
potential attendees and the specific problems they encounter.

Most definitely we also need a coding-for-catalogers session, but this
isn't it.
Laura

--
Laura Smart
Metadata Services Manager
Caltech Library

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Christine Schwartz
catalogingfutu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Becky,

 Is this pre-conference going to be cataloging/metadata training for coders?

 Thanks,

 Chris

 Christine Schwartz
 Metadata Librarian
 Princeton Theological Seminary Library

 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
 Becky Yoose
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:14 AM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

 Hey folks,

 There's been increasing discussion and interest about cataloging around
 this community (and others like it) for quite a while. I found some
 co-conspirators and we are planning to propose a pre-conference on
 cataloging/library metadata creation geared towards the huddled code4lib
 masses (otherwise known as coders) who are yearning for knowledge of this
 Darkest of Library Arts.

 We need you help before we post our proposal. We realize that there's a
 wide range of cataloging knowledge and experience in the community, and we
 want to make sure that those interested get the most out of the
 pre-conference. If this pre-conference has perked your interest, can you
 help us in letting us know:

 - What experience do you have with cataloging/library metadata creation?
 - What do you want us to cover? Do you have any questions that you want
 covered?

 This information will help us greatly in how we structure the
 pre-conference both in content and schedule. For now, we're planning a
 half-day pre-conference, but if there's enough interest between beginners
 and more experienced folks, we will consider offering two half-day
 preconferences in order to focus on specific participant needs.

 Feel free to ask questions as well - I'll try to answer them as best as
 possible given what our group has brainstormed so far.

 Thanks for reading,
 Becky
 Official cat[aloger] herder


 ---
 Becky Yoose
 Systems Librarian
 Grinnell College Libraries
 yoose...@grinnell.edu




[CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Edward Iglesias
Hello All,

We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks.
Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them?  We are using Kiosk
software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about
internet connectivity.  I've thought about just exporting the history
from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant
solution.

Thanks,


Edward Iglesias


[CODE4LIB] Reminder: Code4Lib 2012 Conference Proposals and Registration

2011-11-11 Thread Anjanette Young
Registration for Code4Lib 2012 will open Wednesday, November 16th at 8am
(PST).
Deadlines for proposals are approaching: Nov. 20th. 5pm PST.

A draft schedule can be viewd at
http://code4lib.org/conference/2012/schedule
In the meantime, feel free, obliged, inspired, whatnot, to participate in
this community:
  * volunteer (
http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2012_committees_sign-up_page),
  * propose a talk (http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2012_talks_proposals
)
  * or a preconference (
http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2012_preconference_proposals).
Do.

--Anjanette


Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Friscia, Michael
Why not put google analytics into those local pages? Or are the ipads not 
connected to the internet?

___
Michael Friscia
Manager, Digital Library  Programming Services 

Yale University Library
(203) 432-1856


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward 
Iglesias
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:53 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

Hello All,

We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks.
Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them?  We are using Kiosk software 
that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about internet 
connectivity.  I've thought about just exporting the history from the browser 
and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution.

Thanks,


Edward Iglesias


Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Edward Iglesias
No internet connection.  We have wireless but it would be sketchy for
a months at a time connection.


Edward Iglesias



On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Friscia, Michael
michael.fris...@yale.edu wrote:
 Why not put google analytics into those local pages? Or are the ipads not 
 connected to the internet?

 ___
 Michael Friscia
 Manager, Digital Library  Programming Services

 Yale University Library
 (203) 432-1856


 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
 Edward Iglesias
 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:53 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

 Hello All,

 We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks.
 Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them?  We are using Kiosk 
 software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about 
 internet connectivity.  I've thought about just exporting the history from 
 the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution.

 Thanks,


 Edward Iglesias



Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Jason Griffey
If you register the iPads as part of the Apple Developer Network, you can
use Xcode to view all sorts of access/use logs that iOS saves. I don't have
any specific knowledge of the app you're using (which would make a
difference, since it would be doing the logging) but the capability is
there. Becoming an Apple iOS developer is $99 a year, which may also make a
difference.

Jason


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Edward Iglesias
edwardigles...@gmail.comwrote:

 No internet connection.  We have wireless but it would be sketchy for
 a months at a time connection.


 Edward Iglesias



 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Friscia, Michael
 michael.fris...@yale.edu wrote:
  Why not put google analytics into those local pages? Or are the ipads
 not connected to the internet?
 
  ___
  Michael Friscia
  Manager, Digital Library  Programming Services
 
  Yale University Library
  (203) 432-1856
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
 Edward Iglesias
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:53 PM
  To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
  Subject: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics
 
  Hello All,
 
  We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks.
  Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them?  We are using Kiosk
 software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about
 internet connectivity.  I've thought about just exporting the history from
 the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution.
 
  Thanks,
 
 
  Edward Iglesias
 



Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Friscia, Michael
I'm stumped but also curious, how much history does the ipad store?

___
Michael Friscia
Manager, Digital Library  Programming Services 

Yale University Library
(203) 432-1856


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward 
Iglesias
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:31 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

No internet connection.  We have wireless but it would be sketchy for a months 
at a time connection.


Edward Iglesias



On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Friscia, Michael michael.fris...@yale.edu 
wrote:
 Why not put google analytics into those local pages? Or are the ipads not 
 connected to the internet?

 ___
 Michael Friscia
 Manager, Digital Library  Programming Services

 Yale University Library
 (203) 432-1856


 -Original Message-
 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf 
 Of Edward Iglesias
 Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:53 PM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

 Hello All,

 We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks.
 Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them?  We are using Kiosk 
 software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about 
 internet connectivity.  I've thought about just exporting the history from 
 the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant solution.

 Thanks,


 Edward Iglesias



Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Francis Kayiwa

On 11/11/11 2:31 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:

It depends on what you mean by local.

If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no
network connection, there isn't much you can do.


This isn't entirely true as griffey@gmail suggested under separate 
cover. It is just a wee more involved than your solution below...



./fxk



If the iPads have access to a local network and you have a local
webserver, you can use a log analysis tool such as AWStats on the
server.

Thanks,

Cary

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Edward Iglesias
edwardigles...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hello All,

We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks.
Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them?  We are using Kiosk
software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about
internet connectivity.  I've thought about just exporting the history
from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant
solution.

Thanks,


Edward Iglesias








--
 ... I told my doctor I got all the exercise I needed being a
pallbearer for all my friends who run and do exercises!
-- Winston Churchill


Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Cary Gordon
It depends on what you mean by local.

If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no
network connection, there isn't much you can do.

If the iPads have access to a local network and you have a local
webserver, you can use a log analysis tool such as AWStats on the
server.

Thanks,

Cary

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Edward Iglesias
edwardigles...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello All,

 We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks.
 Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them?  We are using Kiosk
 software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about
 internet connectivity.  I've thought about just exporting the history
 from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant
 solution.

 Thanks,


 Edward Iglesias




-- 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com


Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Nate Vack
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:
 It depends on what you mean by local.

 If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no
 network connection, there isn't much you can do.

You could use HTML5 storage:

http://diveintohtml5.info/storage.html

You'd need network access *sometime,* but not constantly.

-n


Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Jason Griffey
HTML5 local cache is an interesting idea...you could potentially even build
in some javascript to do very basic logging (accesses/uses) using the cache
as your datastore. Funky, but probably doable.

If going down the xCode/Apple dev road, while it's not trivial, it's
reasonably straightforward to throw some HTML into a UIWebview in Xcode and
compile it as a native app. If you're paying for the Dev access, you could
build an app directly to do what you want.

Jason


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Nate Vack njv...@wisc.edu wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote:
  It depends on what you mean by local.
 
  If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no
  network connection, there isn't much you can do.

 You could use HTML5 storage:

 http://diveintohtml5.info/storage.html

 You'd need network access *sometime,* but not constantly.

 -n



Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

2011-11-11 Thread Elisa Graydon
Most definitely we also need a coding-for-catalogers session, but this isn't 
it.

Will there be one?

Elisa

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Laura 
Smart
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:58 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

As a co-conspirator let me jump in here. In answer to Christine's
question - yes.  This is cataloging for non-catalogers - specifically
geared to coders. Hence the subject line Cataloging4Coders (grin).
I think people are somehow misunderstanding Becky's request for input.

The idea is to further understanding of cataloger culture and
cataloging concepts rather than teach how to do descriptive
cataloging in x standard.  That would take way more than a half-day
or one-day workshop.  Plus there are already tons of great courses out
there by SAA, ALCTS, SCTP, etc.   I point the people interested in EAD
in that direction for training.

This CODE4LIB preconference would help coders deal with the metadata
they've got.  It's an explanation of why library metadata is the way
it is rather than a how-to roll your own.  The existing knowledge and
skills of those wanting to attend will determine how detailed we get.
 We're are trying to get a sense of the background knowledge of
potential attendees and the specific problems they encounter.

Most definitely we also need a coding-for-catalogers session, but this
isn't it.
Laura

--
Laura Smart
Metadata Services Manager
Caltech Library

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Christine Schwartz
catalogingfutu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Becky,

 Is this pre-conference going to be cataloging/metadata training for coders?

 Thanks,

 Chris

 Christine Schwartz
 Metadata Librarian
 Princeton Theological Seminary Library

 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
 Becky Yoose
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:14 AM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

 Hey folks,

 There's been increasing discussion and interest about cataloging around
 this community (and others like it) for quite a while. I found some
 co-conspirators and we are planning to propose a pre-conference on
 cataloging/library metadata creation geared towards the huddled code4lib
 masses (otherwise known as coders) who are yearning for knowledge of this
 Darkest of Library Arts.

 We need you help before we post our proposal. We realize that there's a
 wide range of cataloging knowledge and experience in the community, and we
 want to make sure that those interested get the most out of the
 pre-conference. If this pre-conference has perked your interest, can you
 help us in letting us know:

 - What experience do you have with cataloging/library metadata creation?
 - What do you want us to cover? Do you have any questions that you want
 covered?

 This information will help us greatly in how we structure the
 pre-conference both in content and schedule. For now, we're planning a
 half-day pre-conference, but if there's enough interest between beginners
 and more experienced folks, we will consider offering two half-day
 preconferences in order to focus on specific participant needs.

 Feel free to ask questions as well - I'll try to answer them as best as
 possible given what our group has brainstormed so far.

 Thanks for reading,
 Becky
 Official cat[aloger] herder


 ---
 Becky Yoose
 Systems Librarian
 Grinnell College Libraries
 yoose...@grinnell.edu




Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Jason Casden
I've used the semi-deprecated Web SQL Database on iPads to store 
relational data locally with some periodic polling to see if it's safe 
to flush the data to a server. The data survives browser and device 
restarts. This works well as long as the network access is reliably 
intermittent (as Nate pointed out). I used the persistence.js ORM, which 
made the data a little easier to work with.


https://github.com/zefhemel/persistencejs

If you're just storing a set of log lines, localStorage might be the 
shorter path (and it would work in Firefox, if that matters).


Jason

On 11/11/11 3:41 PM, Nate Vack wrote:

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Cary Gordonlistu...@chillco.com  wrote:

It depends on what you mean by local.

If you mean that the html files are on the iPad and you have no
network connection, there isn't much you can do.


You could use HTML5 storage:

http://diveintohtml5.info/storage.html

You'd need network access *sometime,* but not constantly.

-n


Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

2011-11-11 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Elisa Graydon egray...@moore.edu wrote:
 Most definitely we also need a coding-for-catalogers session, but this isn't 
 it.

 Will there be one?

 Elisa

If someone organizes one, then yes.


Re: [CODE4LIB] iPad Kiosk Statistics

2011-11-11 Thread Brad Rhoads
I'd try using couchdb
(http://www.couchbase.org/get/couchbase-mobile-for-ios/current). It
would auto sync when ever you did get online.

---
www.maf.org/rhoads
www.ontherhoads.org



On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Edward Iglesias
edwardigles...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello All,

 We are implementing iPads in our library as wayfinders or kiosks.
 Does anyone know of a way to get stats from them?  We are using Kiosk
 software that loads local html pages so as to not have to worry about
 internet connectivity.  I've thought about just exporting the history
 from the browser and parsing it but surely there is a more elegant
 solution.

 Thanks,


 Edward Iglesias



Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

2011-11-11 Thread [Becky Yoose]
Thanks for posting, Laura. I sent an email to the list last night clarifying
things, but it seems that the listserv ate my email. I'm hoping that the
listserv software gets indigestion from it. :cP

One thing that I do want to mention: Re: help - while we have a small army
working away, if you want to help pitch in with planning, you are more than
welcome to do so.

Perhaps someone can plan a coding4catalogers session, either here or at
another conference... there was some talk about doing a cataloging
unconference at ALA some time ago. 

Thanks again,
Becky

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:57:30 -0800, Laura Smart laura.j.sm...@gmail.com wrote:

As a co-conspirator let me jump in here. In answer to Christine's
question - yes.  This is cataloging for non-catalogers - specifically
geared to coders. Hence the subject line Cataloging4Coders (grin).
I think people are somehow misunderstanding Becky's request for input.

The idea is to further understanding of cataloger culture and
cataloging concepts rather than teach how to do descriptive
cataloging in x standard.  That would take way more than a half-day
or one-day workshop.  Plus there are already tons of great courses out
there by SAA, ALCTS, SCTP, etc.   I point the people interested in EAD
in that direction for training.

This CODE4LIB preconference would help coders deal with the metadata
they've got.  It's an explanation of why library metadata is the way
it is rather than a how-to roll your own.  The existing knowledge and
skills of those wanting to attend will determine how detailed we get.
 We're are trying to get a sense of the background knowledge of
potential attendees and the specific problems they encounter.

Most definitely we also need a coding-for-catalogers session, but this
isn't it.
Laura

--
Laura Smart
Metadata Services Manager
Caltech Library

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Christine Schwartz
catalogingfutu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Becky,

 Is this pre-conference going to be cataloging/metadata training for coders?

 Thanks,

 Chris

 Christine Schwartz
 Metadata Librarian
 Princeton Theological Seminary Library

 From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
Becky Yoose
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:14 AM
 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
 Subject: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains

 Hey folks,

 There's been increasing discussion and interest about cataloging around
 this community (and others like it) for quite a while. I found some
 co-conspirators and we are planning to propose a pre-conference on
 cataloging/library metadata creation geared towards the huddled code4lib
 masses (otherwise known as coders) who are yearning for knowledge of this
 Darkest of Library Arts.

 We need you help before we post our proposal. We realize that there's a
 wide range of cataloging knowledge and experience in the community, and we
 want to make sure that those interested get the most out of the
 pre-conference. If this pre-conference has perked your interest, can you
 help us in letting us know:

 - What experience do you have with cataloging/library metadata creation?
 - What do you want us to cover? Do you have any questions that you want
 covered?

 This information will help us greatly in how we structure the
 pre-conference both in content and schedule. For now, we're planning a
 half-day pre-conference, but if there's enough interest between beginners
 and more experienced folks, we will consider offering two half-day
 preconferences in order to focus on specific participant needs.

 Feel free to ask questions as well - I'll try to answer them as best as
 possible given what our group has brainstormed so far.

 Thanks for reading,
 Becky
 Official cat[aloger] herder


 ---
 Becky Yoose
 Systems Librarian
 Grinnell College Libraries
 yoose...@grinnell.edu