[CODE4LIB] XQuery, XSL, Cocoon question
Hi all, I googled and asked around but couldn't find a satisfactory answer. So hence the question. Does anyone know if it is possible to use XQuery inside an xsl document? Does anyone also know if it is possible to run XQuery files inside a Cocoon sitemap? If you use XQuery, how do you usually use it to get the most mileage out of it? Thanks! ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] XQuery, XSL, Cocoon question
Marklogic Server supports both xquery and xslt, and they've written an extension that allows you to call xquery functions from within xsl stylesheets. It works quite nicely. Nate --- Nate Trail --- Network Development and MARC Standards Office Technology Policy Mail stop 4402 Library Services Library of Congress 202-707-2193 n...@loc.gov -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 9:51 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] XQuery, XSL, Cocoon question Hi all, I googled and asked around but couldn't find a satisfactory answer. So hence the question. Does anyone know if it is possible to use XQuery inside an xsl document? Does anyone also know if it is possible to run XQuery files inside a Cocoon sitemap? If you use XQuery, how do you usually use it to get the most mileage out of it? Thanks! ~Bohyun
Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains
As a side note to this, the communication issue is not unique between catalogers and coders. It is a common discussion topic (librarians vs. IT; emerging technology librarians vs. library coders; even web designers vs. web developers). I hear about this a lot in library conferences. But of course, discussion there is mostly from the librarians' point of view. Since code4lib is unique in that many library coders get together, it would be good to hear the thoughts on this from the coders' point of view as well. ~Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kelley McGrath Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:19 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains I am not by any stretch of the imagination a coder, but I think it would be helpful to have some discussion of common cataloger-coder communication issues. So many cataloger-coder discussions online seem to consist of people talking past each other (although I do think there is a much larger and less vocal common ground in the middle). In addition, I have sometimes seen my cataloger and coder/IT colleagues struggle to communicate with each other and find myself trying to translate. Are there ways to make that translation process easier or cultivate more translators? What do coders wish that catalogers knew about how computers interact with metadata? I would also be interested in ideas on how to shift the conversation more towards underlying functionality. A central failing of computerized catalogs IMO is that they tend to replicate the literal form and actions of cards and the card catalog rather than tried to find a way to express the underlying functionality of the card catalog in a computer environment. This is also sometimes badly done because the programmers don't understand the point of what they're replicating (although to be fair, what they're trying to work with is often not in a form optimized for a computer environment). Uniform titles in many catalogs are a good example of this. Kelley PS Some of the other emails mention wanting help with understanding where real data differs from what's in specifications or differs over time or for other reasons. Speaking as a reasonably competent cataloger, I would say that, although some things can be anticipated in advance, I find this to inevitably be an iterative process. PPS I'm looking forward to attending. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Becky Yoose b.yo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, There's been increasing discussion and interest about cataloging around this community (and others like it) for quite a while. I found some co-conspirators and we are planning to propose a pre-conference on cataloging/library metadata creation geared towards the huddled code4lib masses (otherwise known as coders) who are yearning for knowledge of this Darkest of Library Arts. We need you help before we post our proposal. We realize that there's a wide range of cataloging knowledge and experience in the community, and we want to make sure that those interested get the most out of the pre-conference. If this pre-conference has perked your interest, can you help us in letting us know: - What experience do you have with cataloging/library metadata creation? - What do you want us to cover? Do you have any questions that you want covered? This information will help us greatly in how we structure the pre-conference both in content and schedule. For now, we're planning a half-day pre-conference, but if there's enough interest between beginners and more experienced folks, we will consider offering two half-day preconferences in order to focus on specific participant needs. Feel free to ask questions as well - I'll try to answer them as best as possible given what our group has brainstormed so far. Thanks for reading, Becky Official cat[aloger] herder --- Becky Yoose Systems Librarian Grinnell College Libraries yoose...@grinnell.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval
Hi Michael, Please put this on a t-shirt. I am thinking about making stickers or temporary tattoos and bringing them to Seattle... anybody else who wants to use the image is welcome to. I have released it under a Creative Commons License that allows for commercial use and have made a higher resolution version available here: http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/oclc/ While I have doubts that the image would be appropriate for the official code4lib 2012 t-shirt, I do think it would be neat if a small version of the Seal was *included* on the t-shirt. As an aside, I wanted to mention that this image was created using PowerPoint and SnagIt. Photoshop? We don't need no stinkin' Photoshop! If it looks vaguely familiar, it's probably because design clues were taken from current and historical versions of the Good Housekeeping seal of approval. I don't often do graphic work, so I appreciate the positive comments. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Please put this on a t-shirt. -Original message- From: Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 01:17:40 GMT+00:00 Subject: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Hi Roy, I took the liberty of designing an official OCLC seal-of-approval (see attachment) for code4lib mailing list position announcements and any other purposes you see fit. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/
Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval
Y'all may be wondering how bacon could ever fail to receive my coveted approval, but I have to say that turkey bacon has not yet achieved that distinction. Just sayin' Roy On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu wrote: Hi Michael, Please put this on a t-shirt. I am thinking about making stickers or temporary tattoos and bringing them to Seattle... anybody else who wants to use the image is welcome to. I have released it under a Creative Commons License that allows for commercial use and have made a higher resolution version available here: http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/oclc/ While I have doubts that the image would be appropriate for the official code4lib 2012 t-shirt, I do think it would be neat if a small version of the Seal was *included* on the t-shirt. As an aside, I wanted to mention that this image was created using PowerPoint and SnagIt. Photoshop? We don't need no stinkin' Photoshop! If it looks vaguely familiar, it's probably because design clues were taken from current and historical versions of the Good Housekeeping seal of approval. I don't often do graphic work, so I appreciate the positive comments. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Please put this on a t-shirt. -Original message- From: Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 01:17:40 GMT+00:00 Subject: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Hi Roy, I took the liberty of designing an official OCLC seal-of-approval (see attachment) for code4lib mailing list position announcements and any other purposes you see fit. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/
Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval
Roy, ...turkey bacon has not yet achieved that distinction. And rightly so! What an abomination. And I really wanted to include Neck Ferrets in the inspection and approval bureau, but there just wasn't room enough on the seal. -- Michael -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:38 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Y'all may be wondering how bacon could ever fail to receive my coveted approval, but I have to say that turkey bacon has not yet achieved that distinction. Just sayin' Roy On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu wrote: Hi Michael, Please put this on a t-shirt. I am thinking about making stickers or temporary tattoos and bringing them to Seattle... anybody else who wants to use the image is welcome to. I have released it under a Creative Commons License that allows for commercial use and have made a higher resolution version available here: http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/oclc/ While I have doubts that the image would be appropriate for the official code4lib 2012 t-shirt, I do think it would be neat if a small version of the Seal was *included* on the t-shirt. As an aside, I wanted to mention that this image was created using PowerPoint and SnagIt. Photoshop? We don't need no stinkin' Photoshop! If it looks vaguely familiar, it's probably because design clues were taken from current and historical versions of the Good Housekeeping seal of approval. I don't often do graphic work, so I appreciate the positive comments. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Please put this on a t-shirt. -Original message- From: Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 01:17:40 GMT+00:00 Subject: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Hi Roy, I took the liberty of designing an official OCLC seal-of-approval (see attachment) for code4lib mailing list position announcements and any other purposes you see fit. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/
Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu wrote: And I really wanted to include Neck Ferrets in the inspection and approval bureau, but there just wasn't room enough on the seal. Hmm... who said stamp of approval has to be only one? Just like those various standards out there, you can make another stamp approval as well. Assuming it's approved by OCLC, of course. ranti. -- Bulk mail. Postage paid.
Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval
Which came first, the OCLC approval of the OCLC Seal of Approval or the OCLC Seal of Approval? -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of David Uspal Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 12:02 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Can the OCLC Seal of Approval be given the official OCLC Seal of Approval, or would that do bad things to the space-time continuum? -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Matt McCollow Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 11:56 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Hey now, even abominable bacon is bacon. Matt McCollow Web Developer Mills Library, McMaster University On 2011-11-18, at 11:44 AM, Doran, Michael D wrote: Roy, ...turkey bacon has not yet achieved that distinction. And rightly so! What an abomination. And I really wanted to include Neck Ferrets in the inspection and approval bureau, but there just wasn't room enough on the seal. -- Michael -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:38 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Y'all may be wondering how bacon could ever fail to receive my coveted approval, but I have to say that turkey bacon has not yet achieved that distinction. Just sayin' Roy On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu wrote: Hi Michael, Please put this on a t-shirt. I am thinking about making stickers or temporary tattoos and bringing them to Seattle... anybody else who wants to use the image is welcome to. I have released it under a Creative Commons License that allows for commercial use and have made a higher resolution version available here: http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/oclc/ While I have doubts that the image would be appropriate for the official code4lib 2012 t-shirt, I do think it would be neat if a small version of the Seal was *included* on the t-shirt. As an aside, I wanted to mention that this image was created using PowerPoint and SnagIt. Photoshop? We don't need no stinkin' Photoshop! If it looks vaguely familiar, it's probably because design clues were taken from current and historical versions of the Good Housekeeping seal of approval. I don't often do graphic work, so I appreciate the positive comments. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Please put this on a t-shirt. -Original message- From: Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 01:17:40 GMT+00:00 Subject: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Hi Roy, I took the liberty of designing an official OCLC seal-of-approval (see attachment) for code4lib mailing list position announcements and any other purposes you see fit. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/
Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval
Can the OCLC Seal of Approval be given the official OCLC Seal of Approval, or would that do bad things to the space-time continuum? -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Matt McCollow Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 11:56 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Hey now, even abominable bacon is bacon. Matt McCollow Web Developer Mills Library, McMaster University On 2011-11-18, at 11:44 AM, Doran, Michael D wrote: Roy, ...turkey bacon has not yet achieved that distinction. And rightly so! What an abomination. And I really wanted to include Neck Ferrets in the inspection and approval bureau, but there just wasn't room enough on the seal. -- Michael -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:38 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Y'all may be wondering how bacon could ever fail to receive my coveted approval, but I have to say that turkey bacon has not yet achieved that distinction. Just sayin' Roy On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu wrote: Hi Michael, Please put this on a t-shirt. I am thinking about making stickers or temporary tattoos and bringing them to Seattle... anybody else who wants to use the image is welcome to. I have released it under a Creative Commons License that allows for commercial use and have made a higher resolution version available here: http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/oclc/ While I have doubts that the image would be appropriate for the official code4lib 2012 t-shirt, I do think it would be neat if a small version of the Seal was *included* on the t-shirt. As an aside, I wanted to mention that this image was created using PowerPoint and SnagIt. Photoshop? We don't need no stinkin' Photoshop! If it looks vaguely familiar, it's probably because design clues were taken from current and historical versions of the Good Housekeeping seal of approval. I don't often do graphic work, so I appreciate the positive comments. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Please put this on a t-shirt. -Original message- From: Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 01:17:40 GMT+00:00 Subject: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Hi Roy, I took the liberty of designing an official OCLC seal-of-approval (see attachment) for code4lib mailing list position announcements and any other purposes you see fit. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/
Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Scholarship
Scholarship recipients will be required to write a short trip report to be submitted to the scholarships committee by February 17, 2012. It is expected to be as detailed as possible. Please read last year's recipients account for inspiration. http://www.rockholla.org/technology/2011/03/08/my-code4lib-2011-travelogue David Lacy Falvey Library Technology Services Villanova University library.villanova.edu 610-519-7361 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Ranti Junus Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:54 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Scholarship Oregon State University and the Digital Library Federation are sponsoring five scholarships to promote gender and cultural diversity. Each scholarship will provide up to $1,000 to cover travel costs and conference fees for one qualified attendee to attend the 2012 Code4Lib Conference, which will be held in Seattle, Washington, from Monday,February 6 through Thursday, February 9. The Code4Lib scholarship committee will award two scholarships per category, awarding the remaining scholarship to the best remaining candidate in either category. The Code4Lib scholarship committee will award these scholarships based on merit and need. ELIGIBILITYApplicants, if eligible, may apply for both scholarships, but no applicant will receive more than one scholarship. Past winners of either scholarship are not eligible for either scholarship. Scholarship recipients will be required to write a short trip report to be submitted to the scholarships committee by February 17, 2012. CONFERENCE INFOFor more information on the Code4Lib Conference, please see the conference website:http://code4lib.org/conference/2012 and write-ups of previous Code4Lib Conferences: http://eprints.rclis.org/11670/1/code4lib_journal_article_-_revised3.pdf http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/2717http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/998http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/72 THE OREGON STATE UNIVERSITY AND THE DIGITAL LIBRARY FEDERATION DIVERSITY SCHOLARSHIPS The Gender Diversity Scholarships will provide up to $1,000 to cover travel costs and conference fees for two qualified applicants to attend the 2012 Code4Lib Conference. Any woman or transgendered person who is interested in actively contributing to the mission and goals of the Code4Lib Conference is encouraged to apply. THE OREGON STATE UNIVERSITY AND THE DIGITAL LIBRARY FEDERATION MINORITY SCHOLARSHIPS The Minority Scholarships will provide up to $1,000 to cover travel costs and conference fees for two qualified applicants to attend the 2012 Code4Lib Conference. To qualify for this scholarship, an applicant must be interested in actively contributing to the mission and goals of the Code4Lib Conference and must be of Hispanic or Latino, Black orAfrican-American, Asian, Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander, or American Indian or Alaskan Native descent. HOW TO APPLY To apply, please send an email to Jeremy Frumkin (frumk...@u.library.arizona.edu) with the following:- Indication of which scholarship (Gender or Minority or both) to which you are applying- A brief letter of interest, which: 1.Describes your interest in the conference and how you intend to participate 2.Discusses your statement of need 3.Indicates your eligibility- A résumé or CV- Contact information for two professional or academic references The application deadline is Dec. 9, 2012. The scholarship committee will notify successful candidates the week of Dec. 19, 2012. -- Bulk mail. Postage paid.
Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval
There, I fixed it. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6923768/pix/OCLC-seal-of-approval-sm-nb3.png D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 9:09 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval This thread almost makes the original one worth the pain. Thank you for redeeming it, Michael. - Tom On Nov 18, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Wilfred Drew wrote: Which came first, the OCLC approval of the OCLC Seal of Approval or the OCLC Seal of Approval? -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of David Uspal Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 12:02 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Can the OCLC Seal of Approval be given the official OCLC Seal of Approval, or would that do bad things to the space-time continuum? -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Matt McCollow Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 11:56 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Hey now, even abominable bacon is bacon. Matt McCollow Web Developer Mills Library, McMaster University On 2011-11-18, at 11:44 AM, Doran, Michael D wrote: Roy, ...turkey bacon has not yet achieved that distinction. And rightly so! What an abomination. And I really wanted to include Neck Ferrets in the inspection and approval bureau, but there just wasn't room enough on the seal. -- Michael -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:38 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Y'all may be wondering how bacon could ever fail to receive my coveted approval, but I have to say that turkey bacon has not yet achieved that distinction. Just sayin' Roy On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu wrote: Hi Michael, Please put this on a t-shirt. I am thinking about making stickers or temporary tattoos and bringing them to Seattle... anybody else who wants to use the image is welcome to. I have released it under a Creative Commons License that allows for commercial use and have made a higher resolution version available here: http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/oclc/ While I have doubts that the image would be appropriate for the official code4lib 2012 t-shirt, I do think it would be neat if a small version of the Seal was *included* on the t-shirt. As an aside, I wanted to mention that this image was created using PowerPoint and SnagIt. Photoshop? We don't need no stinkin' Photoshop! If it looks vaguely familiar, it's probably because design clues were taken from current and historical versions of the Good Housekeeping seal of approval. I don't often do graphic work, so I appreciate the positive comments. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 7:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Please put this on a t-shirt. -Original message- From: Doran, Michael D do...@uta.edu To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 01:17:40 GMT+00:00 Subject: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Seal of Approval Hi Roy, I took the liberty of designing an official OCLC seal-of-approval (see attachment) for code4lib mailing list position announcements and any other purposes you see fit. -- Michael # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian # University of Texas at Arlington # 817-272-5326 office # 817-688-1926 mobile # do...@uta.edu # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/
Re: [CODE4LIB] Cataloging4Coders @ C4L12 - We need your brains
I would agree that communication problems are rampant. In this narrower conversation, though, I wonder if in terms of translation maybe there are ways to frame cataloging concepts in computer science terms. For example, periodically there will be a post on Autocat about some website or technological product that has discovered the problem of controlling names and is trying to implement some sort of authority control. The reaction tends to be along the lines of look at them reinventing the wheel or why didn't they ask us. This is probably not an entirely accurate assessment, but library science has built up a lot of experience in dealing with these problems that can be informative. There is a definite overlap in problem space and it would be good to get people to think of those connections. I'm not quite sure how to do this, but it seems possible. As someone else pointed out, the library world solutions tend to reflect the technology of the age when they were implemented so that context is often useful. For example, traditional library cataloging uses a so-called undifferentiated heading for names where there is a single record/ID (for example http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n79080965.html) when it can't be determined whether more than one instance of a given name string on different books [etc.] represents the same person or no information is known that would allow you to distinguish the two names in a way that works in the alphabetical system that names are filed in library catalogs. So in a card catalog, you could subdivide people with the same name mainly by arranging them by their birth and/or death dates or by their middle names like this: Smith, Jane Smith, Jane, 1770-1845 Smith, Jane, b. 1805 [note that computers don't easily sort these dates the way a human filer was supposed to] Smith, Jane, 1912- Smith, Jane A. Smith, Jane (Jane Alice) You can see the advantages of limiting the way you qualify names to a few options to try to improve the predictability for users of a card catalog (although it doesn't completely succeed). You can also see why however many indistinguishable Smith, Jane's you had in a card catalog, a practical solution was to smush them all together and interfile the titles of their works. This was carried over to online authority records and is still the approach used in current cataloging rules, although RDA gives you more options to distinguish names. This contrasts with the approach taken by IMDb where all the instances of a given name are considered to represent separate persons until proven otherwise. This works because they manage their entities by identifiers and also because their method of distinguishing names for display is arbitrary (roman numerals, such as John Smith (XVIII)). Roman numerals won't scale, but there are other approaches for generating display forms of names that could work with the principle of separate until proven same. Other random things that might be useful to demystify: uniform titles, main entry, specificity of subject headings, ISBD punctuation, those subject headings created for validation purposes, chief/prescribed source. Going the other way, I often encounter catalogers who don't have a good sense of what is possible or easy to do with computers. For example, it was suggested today on the OLAC list that wouldn't it be better if catalogers could just go back to using abbreviations (ill., p.) instead of spelling things out like RDA mandates (illustration(s), page(s)), which is indeed a lot more letter and a lot more possibilities for typos. Then the public display could just be programmatically set to show the spelled out version. If you start to think about what it would actually take for a computer to do this, especially over a set of data in the wild, it starts to look not so simple. 1. You need a complete, current list of fields and subfields to ignore (transcribed areas that are supposed to reflect verbatim what's in the source, headings--you really don't want to change Johnson, P. into Johnson, Pages 2. You have to avoid quoted text in notes, which is also supposed to be verbatim, but you do have to fix the text outside the quotes. If someone drops a quote mark, good luck 500 Written by P. Smith--p. 3. 3. For some text outside of quotes in notes, it might be hard to tell when something is or isn't an abbreviation 520 James P. Anderson read a 10,000 p. horror novel and became mentally ill. [all right, it's a silly example, but it makes the point] 500 1990 S/V100 P. [some types of odd identifiers like this are put in general notes with no quote marks] 4. You'd have to have some logic to tell the computer how to choose between page or pages for p. 300 $a ix, 155, 127, x p. 300 $a 300, [1] p. [most people wouldn't do this, but it's technically allowed] 300 $a A-Z p. 300 $a p. 713-797 300 $$a xxiv, 179 + p. [all except the second are straight out of AACR2] That's quite a few examples to
[CODE4LIB] Taxonomy Boot Camp
Taxonomy Boot Camp Various Authors, Website http://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/page.cgi?post=56641 A large number of slide presentations are available form the Taxonomy Bootcamp, a conference of librarians and archivists held October 31 and November 1 in Washington, D.C. One session that caught my eye was Hierarchies Polyhierarchies: Is More Better? though I was disappointed by the Intel slides from Sherry Chang Solution? Governance. Gary Carlson's Avoiding the Autobiographical Taxonomy had some good laughs and good examples. Comment: http://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/page.cgi?post=56641 Direct Link: http://www.taxonomybootcamp.com/2011/presentations.aspx
