Re: [CODE4LIB] Q: Discovery products and authentication (esp Summon)
Hi Jonathan, My library colleagues consider this to be an very important issue. For Primo, users must be authenticated by login or IP address for Web of Science results to be included from Primo Central, and they must be logged in for EBSCO results to be included (i.e. even on campus.) The Web of Science results are important for finding stuff we've purchased/subscribed to, there's a lot which is not otherwise covered by metadata in from the primary publishers or other sources. Journal articles in the EBSCO full text databases are well covered by Primo Central (as Ex Libris takes pains to point out) but stuff like market reports and country profiles aren't yet, and our librarians are keen for those results to be included. Rather than advertising the URL for the Primo search page, I came up with a way of putting a single search box on our library home page which, once a search has been submitted, checks whether the user is already logged into CAS (Single Sign-on) and if not asks the user to choose between logging in or continuing as a guest. A cookie's set to remember their choice. If they are logged in, or choose to log in, it redirects to a URL which makes Primo log in using CAS. Unfortunately it doesn't work 100% of the time, I think because the Ex Libris PDS (which is their own SSO system) complicates it so much that the query is sometimes lost from the URL during one of the many redirects. It hasn't caused any complaints, but it might be better to scrap the search box on the library home page and just have a link to Primo which does the login check first. Cheers, Laurence Lockton University of Bath UK Date:Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:16:27 -0400 From:Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu Subject: Q: Discovery products and authentication (esp Summon) Looking at the major 'discovery' products, Summon, Primo, EDS ...all three will provide some results to un-authenticated users (the general public), but have some portions of the corpus that are restricted and won't show up in your results unless you have an authenticated user affiliated with customer's organization. So when we look around on the web for Summon and Primo examples, we can for instance do some sample searches there even without logging in or being affiliated with the particular institution. But we are only seeing a subset of results there, not actually seeing everything, since we didn't auth. But most of these examples I look at don't, in their UI, make this particularly clear. This leads to me wonder if, in actual use, even for customers who _could_ login to see complete results -- anyone ever does. So very curious to get an answer from any existing customers as to this issue. Do the end-users realize they will get more complete results if they log in? Do you have any numbers (or other info, even if not cold stats) on how many end-users choose to log in to see more complete results? If nobody ever authenticates to see more complete results then the subset available to un-authenticated users essentially _is_ the product, the extra stuff that nobody ever sees is kinda irrelevant, no? Anyone who is a current customer of Summon/Primo/EDS want to say anything on this topic? Would be helpful. --
Re: [CODE4LIB] CODE4LIB Digest - 9 Mar 2010 to 10 Mar 2010 (#2010-58)
Dear Will, What I would really like to do is offer a search in Google Books over books which are held in our library, so like Google's University Search for books. I'd need to be able to link to our catalogue, not just WorldCat. Is there any way to do that, either using a 'My Library' collection with the API, but with the limit of 4500 books lifted, or as a Google hosted Co-Branded Search like for publisher partners. Regards, Laurence Lockton University of Bath UK -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Will Brockman Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:02 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Conference followup; open position at Google Cambridge As a first-time Code4Lib attendee, let me say thanks for a fun conference - a very interesting and creative group of people! A question I posed to some of you in person, and would love to hear more answers to: What are you doing with Google Books? �Do you have a new way of using that resource? �Are there things you'd like to do with it that aren't possible yet? Also, a couple of people asked if Google is hiring. �Not only are we hiring large numbers of software engineers, but we're now seeking a librarian / software developer (below). �I'm happy to take questions about either. All the best, Will brock...@google
Re: [CODE4LIB] Serials Solutions Summon
-- Date:Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:36:30 -0400 From:Diane I. Hillmann metadata.ma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Serials Solutions Summon ... 3. Because they also have data on what journals any particular library customer has subscribed to, they can customize the product for each library, ensuring that the library's users aren't served a bunch of results that they ultimately can't access. This is one of the great advantages of a local aggregated index, being able to flag which documents are actually available to your users, and giving them the choice of searching only for these. Lund University's ELIN does this and it's really popular. (See a picture http://people.bath.ac.uk/lislgl/elin.png) Is this being offered in Summon and WorldCat Local? -- Laurence Lockton University of Bath UK
Re: [CODE4LIB] ticTOCs makes its data available to developers
Eric, You might be interested to know then that Lund University Libraries, the people behind the DOAJ, have been doing this for years, since before publisher RSS feeds and NGCs. They make it available to other libraries too (for a fee) with your holdings indexed so you can search for full text articles only. See http://www.lub.lu.se/en/search/information-about-elinlund.html -- Laurence Lockton University of Bath UK Date:Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:21:32 -0500 From:Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu Subject: Re: ticTOCs makes its data available to developers On 2/11/09 5:11 PM, Bucknell, Terry t.d.buckn...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote: We are working on creating APIs to let groups like the code4lib community extract our data in more flexible ways, but it has been pointed out to us - see http://robotlibrarian.billdueber.com/tictocs-give-us-a-file-pretty-prett y-pret ty-please/ - that all you really need (at least at first) is a simple tab-delimited file that contains titles, ISSNs, and feed URIs for all of the journals in tocTOCs. We now provide precisely this at http://www.tictocs.ac.uk/text.php. This is pretty cool. I can see: 1. Selecting one or more of the RSS feeds that fit within the collection development policy of a particular library 2. Regularly visiting the RSS feeds to extract the metadata of newly available articles 3. Adding that metadata to a library's next generation library catalog/index 4. And you can figure out the rest Such a thing would be complementary to the article-level metadata available from the DOAJ. Hmmm... ticTOC++ -- Eric Lease Morgan Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department Hesburgh Libraries, University of Notre Dame (574) 631-8604 --
