[Coder-Com] GNUWorld Compilation error

2002-07-28 Thread The legend of the darkness

When i was trying to compile GNUWorld
getopts.h was not found, required by main.cc

The system is FreeBSD 4.6-Release with gcc 2.95.3

Any ideas?

Thanks for your time,
Andreas Louca
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Re: [Coder-Com] Patch idea.. any thoughts?

2002-07-28 Thread peter green

I think i have a soloution to your problem which would requier much less 
upheavel

first you add a channel mode which redirects limit blocked clients to 
another channel

then you have a bot which replicates the traffic

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>On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 02:43:11AM -0400, Py Fivestones wrote:
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> > Doesn't that pretty much destroy the concept behind IRC, that is to 
>allow
> > people to chat with each other? Also, don't people on a channel have the
> > right to see who they are keeping company, and thus being associated 
>with?
>
>The mode under discussion is only for use for very large channels (and if
>implemented would probably only be settable on channels at least 500 users
>or something).  Under these circumstances the points you mention are less
>important (particularly if without the mode the users can't stay on the
>network!).
>
> > The other question is, will this channel mode break IRC clients?
>
>If the implementation works as I envisage it, not really.  There would be
>users on the channel that the ircd knows about but the client doesn't, but
>there is no way for the client to find out about them anyway (they can't
>talk or anything, and nick changes etc. would be supressed).  Enabling ops
>to see all channel members would allow bots to function normally, too.
>
>splidge




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Re: [Coder-Com] GNUWorld Compilation error

2002-07-28 Thread Dan


Where on your system is getopt.h located?

The legend of the darkness wrote:

> When i was trying to compile GNUWorld
> getopts.h was not found, required by main.cc
>
> The system is FreeBSD 4.6-Release with gcc 2.95.3
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Andreas Louca
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Http://www.etechnova.net/




Re: [Coder-Com] Patch idea.. any thoughts? [restarted]

2002-07-28 Thread Richard Smith

hmmm:

Channel has 2000 users in it with,
5 ops
5 voiced

Anyone whose anyone knows that if someone were to join that channel from
anything less than a dual channel ISDN line (and probably including) is not
going to handle the flood of /names, and the ensuing irc clients doing
things like /who or /userhost for everyone in that channel. And for the
situation requested, it is also unfair to expect all the users will know how
to set there clients to not get extra information on the nicknames from
/names.

Also a channel mode for "auditorium" mode is impracticle because in order to
not break the protocol in the example above 1995 people would have to be
sent 1995 joins/parts when the channel mode is removed/set (respectively).
(that¹s 3980025 messages that would have to be sent, if you are wondering)

However this would be fine for those being opped/deopped because, only the
person being opped/deopped would need to see everyone join/part (that¹s 3989
messages, made up of 1 per client that couldn't/wont see them (1995) plus
1994 for the person being opped/deopped)

So I am suggesting, if someone really wants this, they are better off
creating a channel type (ie -channel instead of #channel), not a mode,
simply because the semantics of the channel mode would create too much
server load (which is probably why IRCPlus didn't like the channel mode
being removed).

> Doesn't that pretty much destroy the concept behind IRC... 

As for the above line, so does channel modes +m +k +s +p +i +l +n. It was my
understanding this was being aimed at another network out there that could
actually use such a feature, and I am only trying to answer them.


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Re: [Coder-Com] Patch idea.. any thoughts?

2002-07-28 Thread William Van Wyck

One line of options might be to offer some user specific server mode,
similar +d (but only blocking joins/parts from a channel -- still leaving
the issue of quits), or some channel specific (rather than host specific)
server side utility such as +silence (again, modified to filter joins/parts,
and in this case possibly even quits). Client side solutions could not work
because they, at best, filter or redirect incoming information. This still
leaves the bandwidth issues for truely large channels. Undernet definitely
has a need for a utility like this for their #class services. I have been
trying to view these for years and have been driven out by the mass of
joins/parts/quits.

pzl


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> I think i have a soloution to your problem which would requier much less
> upheavel
>
> first you add a channel mode which redirects limit blocked clients to
> another channel
>
> then you have a bot which replicates the traffic
>
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> >Subject: Re: [Coder-Com] Patch idea.. any thoughts?
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> >On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 02:43:11AM -0400, Py Fivestones wrote:
> >
> > > Doesn't that pretty much destroy the concept behind IRC, that is to
> >allow
> > > people to chat with each other? Also, don't people on a channel have
the
> > > right to see who they are keeping company, and thus being associated
> >with?
> >
> >The mode under discussion is only for use for very large channels (and if
> >implemented would probably only be settable on channels at least 500
users
> >or something).  Under these circumstances the points you mention are less
> >important (particularly if without the mode the users can't stay on the
> >network!).
> >
> > > The other question is, will this channel mode break IRC clients?
> >
> >If the implementation works as I envisage it, not really.  There would be
> >users on the channel that the ircd knows about but the client doesn't,
but
> >there is no way for the client to find out about them anyway (they can't
> >talk or anything, and nick changes etc. would be supressed).  Enabling
ops
> >to see all channel members would allow bots to function normally, too.
> >
> >splidge
>
>
>
>
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[Coder-Com] Allowed Hostnames Patch Required?

2002-07-28 Thread Mark Foster

#ZT Recently had a security issue caused by an 'interesting' hostname.

theZoMBiE is qqlaw@#!/bin/sh.B-S-D.org was not

Hostnames with ! in them are going to break clients, scripts and Coding are 
they not?

Shouldnt these be disallowed?




Re: [Coder-Com] Allowed Hostnames Patch Required?

2002-07-28 Thread Jeff Fisher


> #ZT Recently had a security issue caused by an 'interesting' hostname.

I am still out on that ... I honestly need to see the Tcl script being used
in #zt to say if it was an exploit or not. I can confirm 100% it wasn't a
bug in Eggdrop .. and it's doubtful it's a bug in a Tcl script .. but I need
to see the Tcl script in question to confirm that also.

>
> theZoMBiE is qqlaw@#!/bin/sh.B-S-D.org was not
>
> Hostnames with ! in them are going to break clients, scripts and Coding
are
> they not?

Only if badly coded.

> Shouldnt these be disallowed?

Yes.

Jeff