hmmm: Channel has 2000 users in it with, 5 ops 5 voiced
Anyone whose anyone knows that if someone were to join that channel from anything less than a dual channel ISDN line (and probably including) is not going to handle the flood of /names, and the ensuing irc clients doing things like /who or /userhost for everyone in that channel. And for the situation requested, it is also unfair to expect all the users will know how to set there clients to not get extra information on the nicknames from /names. Also a channel mode for "auditorium" mode is impracticle because in order to not break the protocol in the example above 1995 people would have to be sent 1995 joins/parts when the channel mode is removed/set (respectively). (thatıs 3980025 messages that would have to be sent, if you are wondering) However this would be fine for those being opped/deopped because, only the person being opped/deopped would need to see everyone join/part (thatıs 3989 messages, made up of 1 per client that couldn't/wont see them (1995) plus 1994 for the person being opped/deopped) So I am suggesting, if someone really wants this, they are better off creating a channel type (ie -channel instead of #channel), not a mode, simply because the semantics of the channel mode would create too much server load (which is probably why IRCPlus didn't like the channel mode being removed). > Doesn't that pretty much destroy the concept behind IRC... <snipped> As for the above line, so does channel modes +m +k +s +p +i +l +n. It was my understanding this was being aimed at another network out there that could actually use such a feature, and I am only trying to answer them. -- http://www.mediadesign.school.nz/ CAUTION: This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received it in error you must not use, disclose, copy or retain it. Please immediately notify us by return email and then delete the email. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner with McAfee UVScan, and is believed to be clean.