WMS fun and games (Was: where are we)
There is a WMS (OpenGIS Web Mapping Server) available at http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/ or in older GIS packages http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/?Request=GetCapabilities For those who do not have ArcInfo or other GIS tools; see http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/WMSClient.jar which is a very simple browse/zoom/scale tool. And this is what you then see (screenshots): http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/x4.gif http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/x1.gif http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/x2.gif http://demo.asemantics.com/wms/asf/x3.gif Instructions: run the jar java -jar WMSClient.jar Select 'demo.asemantics.com' in the top pull down and hit the little yellow lightning strike Then in the middle left pane a list of resources appears. open the ASF one and double click on the one: Location Zoom in as you want :-) But this is no fun; as there are no other layers (background maps). So form the top pull down select 'globe.digitalearth.gov' and pull in a few entries from 'Context layers'. If you start pulling in layers from the physical paprameters; be aware of orders; those usually are NOT transparant; so use the 'up/down' to move them to the bottom of your stack. There are quite a few other example apps you can use http://www.demis.nl/DEMIS_UK/Products/Demis%20Map%20Server.htm and the OGC lists but a few of them: http://www.opengis.org/testing/product/index.php Note: error handling is far from conformant; and getFeatureInfo is not (yet) implemented - and not sure if I should :-) Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
Ben Hyde wrote: Rich Bowen wrote: Where's a good place to get (correct) coordinates? I got mine off the topo-map in the basement stairway, come on over. Failing that: http://www.topozone.com/ -- you have to tinker to get lat/long http://mapquest.com/ -- preferred by the guys at http://www.geocaching.com/ Then there is borrowing a GPS. We have a listing of some useful services at: http://www.indexgeo.com.au/location.html It is very hard to find an online gazetteer that is not Americo-centric and has world-wide placenames. Our page lists a few such world-wide placename lookups. Another useful one is the GeoTags clickable zoomable world map to get approximate co-ordinates. --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
From: Ben Hyde [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are 14 folks in committers/urls.txt now. http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg Surprisingly few people in the bay area, go figure. Three don't have geo info in the referenced page so... so I took Mr. Davidson's[1] advice and dumped them in the Pacific. http://www.cozy.org/ben/private_map.jpg (that's temporary) Europe is overpopulated. Labels are hardly read. Welcome to Russia. We have a lot of space here. It's just a matter of removing the minus sign in the first coordinate ;) -- Konstantin There are lots of things people could start adding. A tester to see if the URL has any useful info. Grab links like: link rel=alternate type=application/rss+xml title=RSS href=http://enthusiasm.cozy.org//index.rdf; / and color the dots to show recent updates (xplanet will let you specify a color with the locations). Scan the logs (cvs, mail) and color on recent activity. Color using the info in: committers/board/committee-info.txt Get your subcommunity to pile onto the bandwagon. Put the map someplace on the apache.org sites. Use a .qmail-foobar file on cvs.apache.org trigger automatic rebuilds have fun! - ben [1] James Duncan Davidson wrote: ... in Hawaii. With another cluster in Amsterdam. :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 12:48 PM, Santiago Gala wrote: Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Ben Hyde wrote: http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg heh. lookit all the developers in the middle of the pacific. :-) I'm currently dumping people who's pages lack a location meta tag into the Pacific, but I'm considering sprinkling them over the Antarctic instead. When I ran it on cvs this (european) morning it was even worse: crosley lived on the edge. :-) I had a patch fot this, then I got a conflict. Still, I think :-) Apparently we were both trying to rescue Mr. Crosley from getting torn apart at the same time. Index: Makefile === RCS file: /home/cvs/committers/krell/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 Makefile --- Makefile 31 Jan 2003 13:28:02 - 1.3 +++ Makefile 31 Jan 2003 17:46:59 - @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@ # -longitude -30 -color yellow # All day SKIN=-geometry 800x400 -night_image earth.jpg -projection rectangular \ - -longitude -0 -color red + -longitude 10 -color red all : $(MAP) $(PRIVATEMAP) Is better, since it minimises risk of land being on the edge :-) yes better, committed. - thanks - ben - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ben Hyde wrote: (...) yes better, committed. Now, if I could get jeremias off my back, it would be great :-) - thanks - ben Thanks to you. It is very funny. Regards, Santiago - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Hyde wrote: yes better, committed. Thanks to you. It is very funny. The Apache Software Foundation--we put the fun in dysfunctional! -Fitz -- Brian W. Fitzpatrick[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.red-bean.com/fitz/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
Sander Striker wrote: From: David N. Welton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:49 PM Ceki G|lc| [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles? Does not compute. Really... who wants to parse up some file, and have a spider visit a bunch of sites just to get the same information that could have been put in a file on cvs.apache.org or directly in the committers repository. +1. As someone who doesn't maintain a personal site and doesn't want to just to put ICBM info there, I'd prefer to just put my info in a file directly. Fair. Good news, you don't need to have a personal site, all you need is a place to put a page you control. Happy day there is your ~/public_html/foobar.html on cvs.apache.org, e.g. http://cvs.apache.org/~bhyde/ Then I'll admit I had assorted hidden agendas. I'm very interested the theory and practice of an identity system that avoids having _any_ hub what so ever. I'm sad to have the url.txt file at all. I'd rather have done some of those cool new uri/dns tricks. I'm curious if it's actually viable for identity info to be maintained closer to the entity identified rather than the identity provider. I believe that such info should be volunteered rather than ascribed. I'm very interested in the problem of how you aggregate knowledge about entities in any identity system with out prejudging what that info might be. So I tried to pick the least-est info to accumulate it first and I wanted it distributed immediately so that it would force the enterprise to never assume it had control very much over the actual data. I think for a hack like this to scale well and grow fast you need to have it spitting fun value out at every step along the way. It's more fun for me to scrap than design XML schemas. I think it's healthy if the schema designers are trying to catch up with the genie after it gets out of the bottle. I wanted to have some fun in this list, but fast. - ben - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
This will scrap the locations... #!/usr/bin/perl use LWP::UserAgent; my $ua = LWP::UserAgent-new(timeout=30, agent=Krell-GeoScraper/0.1 ); # $ua-agent(); open(F, urls.txt); while(F){ chop; my ($username, $url) = split(/: */, $_, 2); my $res = $ua-request(HTTP::Request-new(GET = $url)); my ($lat, $lon) = $res-content =~ m{meta\s+name\s*=\s*ICBM\s+content=(\s*[.+0-9-]*)\s*[,;]\s*([.+0-9- ]*)\s*\s*[/]*}is if $res-is_success; print $username:$lat:$lon:$url\n; } close(F); ... i.e. bhyde:42.41528:-71.15694:http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/ erikabele:48.7942:10.1151:http://www.codefaktor.de/weblog/ coar:35.90528:-78.85000:http://Ken.Coar.Org/blog/ fitz:-87.67350:41.97200:http://www.red-bean.com/fitz/ jwoolley:::http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~jcw5q/ stevenn:51.0749:3.7473:http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ thommay:51.502798:-0.329835:http://www.planetarytramp.net/ - ben ps. I kind of feel somewhat that the user names are private and ought not appear in any public reports; humm... pps. you gotta love regular expression, well you do if your ever going to understand da bastards. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: I got coordinates from one of the sources listed on the website that you pointed to, but when I then reverse-lookedup the coordinates, it put me somewhere near Pittsburgh. Where's a good place to get (correct) coordinates? US people often forget the '-' and consequently end up in Russia; whcih is where all plusses go :-) Just make it West. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 06:20 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: Where's a good place to get (correct) coordinates? I got mine off the topo-map in the basement stairway, come on over. Failing that: http://www.topozone.com/ -- you have to tinker to get lat/long http://mapquest.com/ -- preferred by the guys at http://www.geocaching.com/ Then there is borrowing a GPS. Meanwhile this map: http://www.fsfeurope.org/coposys/maps/fsf-800x400.png claimed to come from this software: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/coposys/ That in turn appears to be based on xplanet http://xplanet.sourceforge.net/ or at least it's ./configure ... - ben - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.cozy.org/ben/map.jpg cvs up committers cd committers/krell make ... creates map.jpg assuming you have xplanet A mac os x installer package for xplanet is available here: http://macosx.forked.net/showcat.php?cat=Miscellaneoussortmethod=name - put's it in /usr/local/bin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: (...) If I had to do it, I would do it as transparent as possible, otherwise lazy butts (me, for example) won't update their geolocations and the whole thing will lag behind pretty soon. For map generation, it shouldn't be that hard maybe borrow some xearth routines. I have used the mapblast server, to generate things like: http://www.nodedb.com/europe/es/madrid/view.php?nodeid=4 (I'm not related with the node db people, but it gives an idea of my office location) I'm not sure about copyright, restrictions, etc., since I started using it with gpsdrive por personal (not republishing) use. It starts like: You may use the Vicinity Content only for your personal and noncommercial use, only over the Internet through a landline connection,and only with one central processing unit at any one time. And then it follows with further legalese that I can't understand. Regards, Santiago P.S.) I just noticed that my proxy server is a dual-processor and that I have a wireless network setup... (Shrug) I should stop using it, I think. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wednesday, Jan 29, 2003, at 11:15 US/Pacific, David Reid wrote: Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that shows where we'd *like* to be... There would be this big cluster over in Hawaii. With another cluster in Amsterdam. :) James Duncan Davidson Coder, Speaker, Author http://x180.net/ [life live]; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where are we?
I wonder if we could do something fun. I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various people in the community are located on the planet. My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the author tag to grab their names. They then put some other kind of tag on a page, like meta name=ASF-KIND content=committer They then poke something we keep back at central command so we can accumulate the list. If we use committers repository for that we can easily authenticate people. If we keep it simple to start we can obviously do assorted richer things later, but if all we try to do up front is get a map of the committers that would be sufficiently neat. wdyt? - ben [1] http://geourl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cool +1.. I've already setup geoUrl so the headers are in place. (except for the ASF-KIND though) Mvgr, Martin -Original Message- From: Ben Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:58 To: community@apache.org Subject: Where are we? I wonder if we could do something fun. I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various people in the community are located on the planet. My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the author tag to grab their names. They then put some other kind of tag on a page, like meta name=ASF-KIND content=committer They then poke something we keep back at central command so we can accumulate the list. If we use committers repository for that we can easily authenticate people. If we keep it simple to start we can obviously do assorted richer things later, but if all we try to do up front is get a map of the committers that would be sufficiently neat. wdyt? - ben [1] http://geourl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondoggle at first too. At that point the only thing we need is to collect URL's that have the icbm info in them. This will make so much easier for the authorities when the time comes! - ben On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:03 PM, Martin van den Bemt wrote: Cool +1.. I've already setup geoUrl so the headers are in place. (except for the ASF-KIND though) Mvgr, Martin -Original Message- From: Ben Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:58 To: community@apache.org Subject: Where are we? I wonder if we could do something fun. I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various people in the community are located on the planet. My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the author tag to grab their names. They then put some other kind of tag on a page, like meta name=ASF-KIND content=committer They then poke something we keep back at central command so we can accumulate the list. If we use committers repository for that we can easily authenticate people. If we keep it simple to start we can obviously do assorted richer things later, but if all we try to do up front is get a map of the committers that would be sufficiently neat. wdyt? - ben [1] http://geourl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that shows where we'd *like* to be... david - Original Message - From: Ben Hyde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:11 PM Subject: Re: Where are we? Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondoggle at first too. At that point the only thing we need is to collect URL's that have the icbm info in them. This will make so much easier for the authorities when the time comes! - ben On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:03 PM, Martin van den Bemt wrote: Cool +1.. I've already setup geoUrl so the headers are in place. (except for the ASF-KIND though) Mvgr, Martin -Original Message- From: Ben Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:58 To: community@apache.org Subject: Where are we? I wonder if we could do something fun. I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various people in the community are located on the planet. My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the author tag to grab their names. They then put some other kind of tag on a page, like meta name=ASF-KIND content=committer They then poke something we keep back at central command so we can accumulate the list. If we use committers repository for that we can easily authenticate people. If we keep it simple to start we can obviously do assorted richer things later, but if all we try to do up front is get a map of the committers that would be sufficiently neat. wdyt? - ben [1] http://geourl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--On Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:15:16 + David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that shows where we'd *like* to be... In your case, we could show where your plane is. 40,000ft above the Atlantic Ocean in the middle of nowhere. =) -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* Justin Erenkrantz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : --On Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:15:16 + David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that shows where we'd *like* to be... In your case, we could show where your plane is. 40,000ft above the Atlantic Ocean in the middle of nowhere. =) -- justin But that would only apply the one day a month he's actually working... ;-) -Thom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just heard a plain is perfect for spec writing :) (Dirk-Willem?) The result is called PLOP (for belgians and dutch people with kids : Nee geen Kabouter Plop!) See http://www-nrc.nokia.com/mail-archive/ietf-spatial/msg00358.html for details :) Mvgr, Martin -Original Message- From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 20:25 To: community@apache.org Subject: Re: Where are we? --On Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:15:16 + David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that shows where we'd *like* to be... In your case, we could show where your plane is. 40,000ft above the Atlantic Ocean in the middle of nowhere. =) -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* Justin Erenkrantz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that shows where we'd *like* to be... In your case, we could show where your plane is. 40,000ft above the Atlantic Ocean in the middle of nowhere. =) -- justin Hmm, I could have it dynamically updated! That would be coolness But that would only apply the one day a month he's actually working... ;-) Yeah right. More like the 25 days a month it feels like I'm doing at present :) david - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Never right specs in a fright container. On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:36 PM, Martin van den Bemt wrote: Just heard a plain is perfect for spec writing :) (Dirk-Willem?) The result is called PLOP (for belgians and dutch people with kids : Nee geen Kabouter Plop!) See http://www-nrc.nokia.com/mail-archive/ietf-spatial/msg00358.html for details :) Mvgr, Martin -Original Message- From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 20:25 To: community@apache.org Subject: Re: Where are we? --On Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:15:16 + David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that shows where we'd *like* to be... In your case, we could show where your plane is. 40,000ft above the Atlantic Ocean in the middle of nowhere. =) -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ben Hyde wrote: I wonder if we could do something fun. I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various people in the community are located on the planet. enthusiast +1 My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the author tag to grab their names. They then put some other kind of tag on a page, like meta name=ASF-KIND content=committer They then poke something we keep back at central command so we can accumulate the list. If we use committers repository for that we can easily authenticate people. View source of http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/: meta name=author content=Steven Noels/ meta name=ICBM content=51.0749, 3.7473 / meta name=DC.title content=Outer Web Thought Log / meta name=ASF.role content=committer / meta name=ASF.id content=stevenn / If we keep it simple to start we can obviously do assorted richer things later, but if all we try to do up front is get a map of the committers that would be sufficiently neat. wdyt? Fun indeed! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles? Does not compute. At 14:11 29.01.2003 -0500, you wrote: Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondoggle at first too. At that point the only thing we need is to collect URL's that have the icbm info in them. This will make so much easier for the authorities when the time comes! - ben On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:03 PM, Martin van den Bemt wrote: Cool +1.. I've already setup geoUrl so the headers are in place. (except for the ASF-KIND though) Mvgr, Martin -Original Message- From: Ben Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:58 To: community@apache.org Subject: Where are we? I wonder if we could do something fun. I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various people in the community are located on the planet. My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the author tag to grab their names. They then put some other kind of tag on a page, like meta name=ASF-KIND content=committer They then poke something we keep back at central command so we can accumulate the list. If we use committers repository for that we can easily authenticate people. If we keep it simple to start we can obviously do assorted richer things later, but if all we try to do up front is get a map of the committers that would be sufficiently neat. wdyt? - ben [1] http://geourl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ceki - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
* Ben Hyde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I wonder if we could do something fun. I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various people in the community are located on the planet. me like :-) +1 -Thom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
Ben Hyde wrote: I wonder if we could do something fun. I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various people in the community are located on the planet. My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the author tag to grab their names. They then put some other kind of tag on a page, like meta name=ASF-KIND content=committer They then poke something we keep back at central command so we can accumulate the list. If we use committers repository for that we can easily authenticate people. If we keep it simple to start we can obviously do assorted richer things later, but if all we try to do up front is get a map of the committers that would be sufficiently neat. wdyt? cool. i did this a couple of weeks ago in my web log pages url:http://ken.coar.org/blog/. i didn't make the connexion with using it to find out where *we* are; that's excellent. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ Millennium hand and shrimp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ben Hyde wrote: % cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers % echo 'http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/' committers/urls.txt % cvs ci -m 'Add Ben' committers/urls.txt done, I added my account ID so that maybe Sam Jim can pick up that file and use it for their committer/member overview, too That's about as low on the food chain as we can go 'knowledge representation' wise. Should we climb higher, and if so ... why? nope, KISS Anybody know how to make a map? not yet - but it is fun thing to ponder with :) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where are we?
Done for me too.. Mvgr, Martin -Original Message- From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 21:49 To: community@apache.org Subject: Re: Where are we? Ben Hyde wrote: % cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers % echo 'http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/' committers/urls.txt % cvs ci -m 'Add Ben' committers/urls.txt done, I added my account ID so that maybe Sam Jim can pick up that file and use it for their committer/member overview, too That's about as low on the food chain as we can go 'knowledge representation' wise. Should we climb higher, and if so ... why? nope, KISS Anybody know how to make a map? not yet - but it is fun thing to ponder with :) /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the [1] http://geourl.com/ That lands me on a domain squatter. It's a cool idea, but I'm a little apprehensive about being targeted by ICBMs... S. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.temme.net/sander/ PGP Fingerprint: 51B4 8727 466A 0BC3 69F4 B7B8 B2BE BC40 1529 24AF - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
Steven Noels wrote: That's about as low on the food chain as we can go 'knowledge representation' wise. Should we climb higher, and if so ... why? nope, KISS Lies! Ok so the file is in /etc/passwd style with three columns separated by colons. The first field is your cvs.apache.org login id, the second and third combine to make a URL. The first column is the key and should be unique over the file. Anybody know how to make a map? not yet - but it is fun thing to ponder with :) Humm: http://p2pmap.org/tarballs/gserver/exe/gserver.html ...: http://p2pmap.org/blog.html see the Jan. 15. 03 entry. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles? Does not compute. Really... who wants to parse up some file, and have a spider visit a bunch of sites just to get the same information that could have been put in a file on cvs.apache.org or directly in the committers repository. As far as the mapping software, the Debian guys have done something like this in the past... I'll see if I can get some information. -- David N. Welton Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/ Personal: http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/ Free Software: http://www.dedasys.com/freesoftware/ Apache Tcl: http://tcl.apache.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are we?
David N. Welton wrote: Ceki Gülcü writes: What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles? Does not compute. Really... who wants to parse up some file, and have a spider visit a bunch of sites just to get the same information that could have been put in a file on cvs.apache.org or directly in the committers repository. That is right. There is some discussion on another Apache mailing list (which one?) about adding additional bio information for each committer to each project's who.xml Another element could be locationx149.73/xy-34.73/y/location Actually i would rather that this bio info was stored in the committers CVS instead of scattered through each project. --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]