Re: What to use while waiting of v2?
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:09:47 +0100, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wiadomość napisana w dniu Dec 16, 2007, o godz 3:45 PM, przez Ben: I can't hold out any longer. I'm thinking of ipod touch (the jailbreaked one) for GTD and PDA. I'm using mac as my primary computer and ipod touch seems to be a nice companion to my MacBook :) Although I would wait until February when the SDK for it appears if I was you. I bought a Nokia N810 - the software is still kinda beta in some ways and a lot of apps haven't made it over. o-hand's 'Contacts' is what I am waiting for most. Haven't tried to sync anything yet - only imported vCards, so I can't really comment on that. It is a nice little bit of gear though. I'm still potentially in the market for a neo too, provided the 850 MHz band issue gets sorted, but 3G would be really nice (I know it won't happen this round, no flames necessary). I may choose freedom (mostly) on my tablet with higher-speed bandwidth on a non-free phone. josh ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to use while waiting of v2?
Ben wrote: I can't hold out any longer. I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few options for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic backup. I will be using it to implement GTD (Getting Things Done). Phone not essential. I don't need it to be open, non-evil, etc. I just need it's shortcomings to be outweighed by the ease of backup and sync it has over a Hipster PDA (Notebook and Pen). Nokia N800 or N810? Both are Linux PDA web tablet like devices, running linux, (and I think GTK), so depending on your view of Nokia, they are fairly open and non-evil. They don't have a Cellular interface though, so the only way they can be used for phone calls is via Skype or another VoIP service when you are near a Wi-Fi hotspot. The N810, which was announced recently and may not be available yet, has a slide out keyboard and a GPS, otherwise it is similar to the N800. They are remarkably small, more like a large smartphone than a PDA. I work for Nokia, (but not in device development) BTW, so you may wish to take my views with some salt. -- David Pottage ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to use while waiting of v2?
On Sunday 16 December 2007 19:34:48 David Pottage wrote: Ben wrote: I can't hold out any longer. I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few options for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic backup. I will be using it to implement GTD (Getting Things Done). Phone not essential. I don't need it to be open, non-evil, etc. I just need it's shortcomings to be outweighed by the ease of backup and sync it has over a Hipster PDA (Notebook and Pen). Nokia N800 or N810? Both are Linux PDA web tablet like devices, running linux, (and I think GTK), so depending on your view of Nokia, they are fairly open and non-evil. They don't have a Cellular interface though, so the only way they can be used for phone calls is via Skype or another VoIP service when you are near a Wi-Fi hotspot. The N810, which was announced recently and may not be available yet, has a slide out keyboard and a GPS, otherwise it is similar to the N800. They are remarkably small, more like a large smartphone than a PDA. I work for Nokia, (but not in device development) BTW, so you may wish to take my views with some salt. im not sure one can call the N8x0 series for PDA's. sure one can install GPE apps to get calendar and that stuff, but it does not come pr default. also, sync isnt exactly a simple issue... ok, so another option is the recent open beta garnetvm from access, that allows one to run palmos related software on the devices. but as said, its beta, and as of right now i dont think it makes anywhere close to full use of the screen... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to use while waiting of v2?
Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Ben napisał: I can't hold out any longer. I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few options for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic backup. I will be using it to implement GTD (Getting Things Done). Phone not essential. I don't need it to be open, non-evil, etc. I just need it's shortcomings to be outweighed by the ease of backup and sync it has over a Hipster PDA (Notebook and Pen). Any recent Windows Mobile PDA then. Sorry to say that but after playing with few LinuxPDA environments I would move to Windows Mobile PDA if will have to buy one. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate... leads to suffering. -- Yoda ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to use while waiting of v2?
Am 16.12.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Ben napisał: I can't hold out any longer. I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few options for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic backup. I will be using it to implement GTD (Getting Things Done). Phone not essential. I don't need it to be open, non-evil, etc. I just need it's shortcomings to be outweighed by the ease of backup and sync it has over a Hipster PDA (Notebook and Pen). Any recent Windows Mobile PDA then. Sorry to say that but after playing with few LinuxPDA environments I would move to Windows Mobile PDA if will have to buy one. Fortunaltely, there is no need to do such a strange move for a MacLinux addict... There is the Sharp Zaurus which is amongst the best PDAs out there. It simply works for daily useage (software is stable!), has a QWERY keyboard, a twistable full VGA display (like the OpenMoko) and allows to install alternate ROMs with e.g. Angstrom, Debian, OpenBSD if you don't like the original Sharp Linux. It can be expanded by CF (WLAN, GPS, GPRS) and SD cards. And for syncing with a Mac, there is ZMacSync http://www.dsitri.de/ wiki.php?page=ZMacSync -- hns ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to use while waiting of v2?
Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał: Am 16.12.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Any recent Windows Mobile PDA then. Fortunaltely, there is no need to do such a strange move for a MacLinux addict... There is the Sharp Zaurus which is amongst the best PDAs out there. Man... I had all models of Sharp Zaurus palmtops in hands. Let see: SL-5000/5500/5600 we will ignore as they have crappy screen SL-6000 is too bulky c700 has slow CPU and only 32M ram c750/c760/c860/sl-7500 have nice video acceleration under Ångström but are available only from second hand c1000/c3000/c3100/c3200 are faster and have USB Host functionality But they all lack any wireless connectivity (which you can add via CF or USB but it adds to size), each of available ones (c1000/3x00) is huge compared to today palmtops. And it has so split community that getting support starts to be hard. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant To be or not to be that is the question.: every programmer knows the answer $2b or (not $2b) is $ff. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to use while waiting of v2?
Lets not forget about all the htc devices sold under diffrents names. We have most of the hardware working with linux, and alot of the devices are suplied with wlan. We even have the modem working on some of them. All the GUI (opie/gpe/gpephone/openmoko/Qtopia) runs well on them, and even the phone works with Openmoko and Qtopia (also sms) on some of them. Whats great about this is that they all are sold used at ebay, so you can have a cheap device running both Wince and linux. Here is an overview of our work with the htc devices: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones The most supported devices is HTC Universal, Magician, Blueangel and Apache. regards gxl 2007/12/16, Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał: Am 16.12.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Any recent Windows Mobile PDA then. Fortunaltely, there is no need to do such a strange move for a MacLinux addict... There is the Sharp Zaurus which is amongst the best PDAs out there. Man... I had all models of Sharp Zaurus palmtops in hands. Let see: SL-5000/5500/5600 we will ignore as they have crappy screen SL-6000 is too bulky c700 has slow CPU and only 32M ram c750/c760/c860/sl-7500 have nice video acceleration under Ångström but are available only from second hand c1000/c3000/c3100/c3200 are faster and have USB Host functionality But they all lack any wireless connectivity (which you can add via CF or USB but it adds to size), each of available ones (c1000/3x00) is huge compared to today palmtops. And it has so split community that getting support starts to be hard. -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant To be or not to be that is the question.: every programmer knows the answer $2b or (not $2b) is $ff. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What to use while waiting of v2?
Am 16.12.2007 um 23:38 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał: Am 16.12.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Any recent Windows Mobile PDA then. Fortunaltely, there is no need to do such a strange move for a MacLinux addict... There is the Sharp Zaurus which is amongst the best PDAs out there. Man... I had all models of Sharp Zaurus palmtops in hands. Let see: SL-5000/5500/5600 we will ignore as they have crappy screen SL-6000 is too bulky c700 has slow CPU and only 32M ram c750/c760/c860/sl-7500 have nice video acceleration under Ångström but are available only from second hand c1000/c3000/c3100/c3200 are faster and have USB Host functionality And are still available (C1000/C3200). But they all lack any wireless connectivity (which you can add via CF or USB but it adds to size), each of available ones (c1000/3x00) is huge Not much. There are Bluetooth cards that do not even stick out and a WLAN card add less than 1cm. compared to today palmtops. And it has so split community that getting With what do you compare? With QVGA models without keyboard? If I compare with e.g. an Acer n30 it is half as thick but has 90% of the area. But only one SD slot. No CF. No additional battery, No clamshell, no keyboard. support starts to be hard. There is IMHO only one community: www.oesf.org and there are still enough users out there. And, there are tons of pages found by Google. I still do not have seen any QWERTY PDA that is really better (the N810 may be). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone's reading bugzilla?
Krzysztof Kajkowski pisze: Recently I started to test newest OM snapshots and fill in new bugs in bugzilla. But I'm wonder if this is neccesary or needed? I filled some IMHO severe bugs (contact list is not working, dialer is not working - #1120, #1121, #1122) but there's no answer. Does it mean you already know about these bugs and are already fixing them or have no time to looks at them? Do you want us to test your software? Sounds like a chaos after first days from opening the OM shop. Nobody controlls this. Regards. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
