Re: network registration from NEO! please help!

2008-03-17 Thread joerg
Is this a simcard-issue or a basestation related problem?
Will bad cards show same behaviour when roaming to a different provider's 
network; will good cards start to oscillate when roaming to this exact cell 
where the T-mobile cards go nuts?
Or has there to be both, bad T-Mobile card PLUS bad T-mobile cell base 
station?

How can a GTA01 be different than GTA02, if they have same GSM firmware?
http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1024#c9

Reporters should include serial number printed on the simcard.

cheers
jOERG 

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Re: network registration from NEO! please help!

2008-03-17 Thread joerg
RF-emission interference?
Sure you already tested GTA02 with external GSM-antenna.
And checked if other cellphone normally working with a bad card starts to 
fail when GTA02 is near.

jOERG

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Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread clare


On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Lorn Potter wrote:

clare wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Lorn Potter wrote:

The latest binary for Neo from Trolltech is at qtopia.net.


Thanks very much. I did set up the one from qtopia.net,
with a modern u-boot (5 March)
u-boot-gta01bv4-1.3.1+git0+10bbb38a402a2faf18858c451bcdc63d45888e6e+svn4164-r3.bin 
and the two pieces supplied as qtopia-4.3.1-neo-flash.tgz

which is not SD booted, it has apparently to be flashed.

I was very disappointed. I don't know why it was very slow compared with 
what I remember earlier about qtopia.  I may try again sometime in the 


Thats odd. It haven't seen any performance issues like that.


Thanks, That is a start - I was wondering if it was just mine being 
difficult.  I want to try again the dual booting, then will load qtopia 
again and do some time measurements and comparisons with other versions. I 
have already noticed dialout time very long with underground and am 
wondering if it is low signal level, I will have to try in another place. 
(Soon will be more mobile and then can do that.)

regards,
clare

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Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Sunday 16 March 2008 19:57:50 Michael Shiloh wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm trying to get some sort of a concrete update from the team in
 Taiwan. I'll let you know as soon as I do.


Maybe while you're at it, some information about the future direction of the 
interface stack would be nice. I'm putting together bits and pieces and I 
think I fathom what is planned but some statement would be nice.

Thanks,
Gabriel



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2.6.24 kernel RNDIS is not work when I use the same NeoRndis.inf

2008-03-17 Thread Xiangfu Liu
hi

i flash my NEO1973 with the new kernel
when i connect to the Windows XP
it 's not  work
i can see the Device in the computer but it is not work
but it's work with Ubuntu.
i don't why
and how can i deal this
in the work time i must use the Windows So..

-- 
my Blog : http://blog.chinaunix.net/u/13385/
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Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-17 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

 UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks... Just one thing: how is generated the UID data?
 It seems something like:
 UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Well, how is calculed what I called ${id}?

 I have absolutely no idea, but i think it's easy to find in evolution 
 sources ;-)

Right -- I guess it does come from Evolution.  fic-gta02 does seem to be
the hostname.  It could be random, but 1424-0-1422-11 doesn't look very
random.

I saw you can get the upstream source here

http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/evolution/2.22/evolution-2.22.0.tar.bz2

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Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/15, Mark Haury [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  ...and the Neo *is* fully open? What about the graphics module, the
 gps module, and the gsm module?

They are as open as it is possible to get gsm/gps technology under
international regulatory laws, which is pretty much the best you can
hope for until eg. laws change, in case you do not want to drop
gsm/gps support altogether. There's no competitors offering similar
(best) level of openness in both areas. Graphics is having hurdles
that are not unsolvable, so I'm believing they will be solved. Main 2D
stuff is currently open, waiting for 3D in the future.

  I have yet to come across any media file that I can't play on my N800;
 it plays ogg, wav, mp3, wma, wmv, xvid, etc.

It does not play eg. ogg, I was discussing out-of-the-box
functionality, ie. what the vendor supports which is the only thing
that matters in the big picture. I also mentioned that the vendor
actively rejects open media formats, which is also true as seen in the
HTML5 preparation discussions in addition to refusing to support those
formats in devices.

 It even plays some Web media that my desktop kubuntu machine won't.

Yes, it plays many closed, proprietary formats out-of-the-box, but
none of the open formats like ogg vorbis, ogg theora, flac, speex,
dirac. So it does not play any of my music out-of-the-box, and I'd
prefer to support vendors that support those formats.

 It sounds to me like you're going on hearsay rather than personal experience.

I've a N800, I know what parts of it are closed (many) and that it
does not play open media formats out-of-the-box. It's a nice device
with some open parts making it superior to a few others in openness,
but it's quite far being really open and rejecting open media formats
tells a story of its own about not being truly honest / courageous
enough about supporting openness.

It was a great start when 770 came out, but not much progress has
happened since then.

-Timo

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Re: network registration from NEO! please help!

2008-03-17 Thread Erin Yueh
Hi List,

I've created a new page for this issue in Openmoko Wiki.  Welcome to
contribute your network status with all community.  BTW, we'd like to
just confirm your IMEI code whether it has one or all zero, so please
just write Yes or No in table. Thanks a lot! :)

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM_network_registration

Best Regards,
Erin

Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
 cool. Should we create a wiki page to collect the results?
 Wolfgang
 
 On Mar 17, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Erin Yueh wrote:
 
 Hi List,

 We'd like to ask your kindly helps on network registration by using
 your NEO devices. Particularly, the network from T-Mobile in UK, ATT
 in USA, and Vodafone in Germany, since we've heard some problems about
 network registration. It's difficult to camp the network by using some
 specific SIM cards. If you are willing to update your network status
 with us, we really appreciate from your works. Thanks a lot! :)

 Our questions as below:

 1. What NEO device you are using? GTA01 or GTA02

 2. Where is your location and what is your network provider? eg.
 T-Mobile, San Francisco in USA

 3. When you boot the NEO, how long it takes to register the network?
 eg. in normal case, it should be able to register to a network in 1~2
 minutes immediately.

 4. What is your GSM firmware version? you can get this number by an AT
 command. Using SSH to your NEO, then type this command:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd
 libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc.
 This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

 AT+CGMR
 STR=`AT+CGMR'
 RSTR=`+CGMR: HW: GTA02BV5, GSM:
 gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko6'

 5. What is your IMEI code? by this AT command like previous steps.
 AT+CGSN
 STR=`AT+CGSN'
 RSTR=`+CGSN: 000'

 6. if NEO takes over 3 minutes to register to the network or it just
 re-register to the network again and again. Please attach your gsm log
 file ('/tmp/gsm.log') to our bugzilla, we already created a bug for
 this issue.
 http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1024


 PS. Check our wiki site, if you have problems on these stuff.

 How to use SSH on NEO:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
 How to use libgsmd-tool:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd


 Best Regards,
 Erin

 


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Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread Daniel Spies
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:18:54 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

-snip-
 
 Keep up the great work Lorn (and Co.). Over here we're working as hard
 as we can to get FreeRunner out of the factory. Things are moving nicely
 now. Pilot runs are in a few days from now.

Thank you for the small update! :)

 
 Sean

Daniel



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Re: network registration from NEO! please help!

2008-03-17 Thread Kyle Bassett
In addition, I would recommend testing the specific SIM cards, as some
people have purchased a SIM just for the GTA01/02.  Add a column in the wiki
for (Verified, Unknown SIM card functionality status)?

-Kyle

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Erin Yueh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi List,

 I've created a new page for this issue in Openmoko Wiki.  Welcome to
 contribute your network status with all community.  BTW, we'd like to
 just confirm your IMEI code whether it has one or all zero, so please
 just write Yes or No in table. Thanks a lot! :)

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM_network_registration

 Best Regards,
 Erin

 Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
  cool. Should we create a wiki page to collect the results?
  Wolfgang
 
  On Mar 17, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Erin Yueh wrote:
 
  Hi List,
 
  We'd like to ask your kindly helps on network registration by using
  your NEO devices. Particularly, the network from T-Mobile in UK, ATT
  in USA, and Vodafone in Germany, since we've heard some problems about
  network registration. It's difficult to camp the network by using some
  specific SIM cards. If you are willing to update your network status
  with us, we really appreciate from your works. Thanks a lot! :)
 
  Our questions as below:
 
  1. What NEO device you are using? GTA01 or GTA02
 
  2. Where is your location and what is your network provider? eg.
  T-Mobile, San Francisco in USA
 
  3. When you boot the NEO, how long it takes to register the network?
  eg. in normal case, it should be able to register to a network in 1~2
  minutes immediately.
 
  4. What is your GSM firmware version? you can get this number by an AT
  command. Using SSH to your NEO, then type this command:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd
  libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc.
  This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
 
  AT+CGMR
  STR=`AT+CGMR'
  RSTR=`+CGMR: HW: GTA02BV5, GSM:
  gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko6'
 
  5. What is your IMEI code? by this AT command like previous steps.
  AT+CGSN
  STR=`AT+CGSN'
  RSTR=`+CGSN: 000'
 
  6. if NEO takes over 3 minutes to register to the network or it just
  re-register to the network again and again. Please attach your gsm log
  file ('/tmp/gsm.log') to our bugzilla, we already created a bug for
  this issue.
  http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1024
 
 
  PS. Check our wiki site, if you have problems on these stuff.
 
  How to use SSH on NEO:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
  How to use libgsmd-tool:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd
 
 
  Best Regards,
  Erin
 
 



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Re: network registration from NEO! please help!

2008-03-17 Thread Michael Shiloh

Erin,

Thanks for kicking this off. So far, I'm the only one experiencing this 
problem. I'd like to find out if there is some invisible Faraday cage 
that moves with me, or if it a larger problem.


In general, cross-posting is not useful. After this email, let's 
restrict this discussion to the devel list, although anyone interested 
is welcome to join, whether a developer or not.


I'd like to add another type of question:

How did you purchase your SIM card? For instance, did it come with an 
ATT provided cellphone, or was it a card-only option like prepaid? Did 
you buy it at an ATT store or other?


And, just to test one of my theories, did it come with an ATT iPhone?

Perhaps also, when did you buy it? One theory is that this depends on 
when you purchased your SIM card.


I saw in later email that someone set up a wiki page. I will report my 
experience for my 3 SIM Cards now.


Erin Yueh wrote:

Hi List,

We'd like to ask your kindly helps on network registration by using your 
NEO devices. Particularly, the network from T-Mobile in UK, ATT in USA, 
and Vodafone in Germany, since we've heard some problems about network 
registration. It's difficult to camp the network by using some specific 
SIM cards. If you are willing to update your network status with us, we 
really appreciate from your works. Thanks a lot! :)


Our questions as below:

1. What NEO device you are using? GTA01 or GTA02

2. Where is your location and what is your network provider? eg. 
T-Mobile, San Francisco in USA


3. When you boot the NEO, how long it takes to register the network? eg. 
in normal case, it should be able to register to a network in 1~2 
minutes immediately.


4. What is your GSM firmware version? you can get this number by an AT 
command. Using SSH to your NEO, then type this command:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd
libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

AT+CGMR
STR=`AT+CGMR'
RSTR=`+CGMR: HW: GTA02BV5, GSM: 
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-Moko6'


5. What is your IMEI code? by this AT command like previous steps.
AT+CGSN
STR=`AT+CGSN'
RSTR=`+CGSN: 000'

6. if NEO takes over 3 minutes to register to the network or it just 
re-register to the network again and again. Please attach your gsm log 
file ('/tmp/gsm.log') to our bugzilla, we already created a bug for this 
issue.

http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1024


PS. Check our wiki site, if you have problems on these stuff.

How to use SSH on NEO:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
How to use libgsmd-tool:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd


Best Regards,
Erin



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Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread Michael Shiloh



Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:

On Sunday 16 March 2008 19:57:50 Michael Shiloh wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to get some sort of a concrete update from the team in
Taiwan. I'll let you know as soon as I do.



Maybe while you're at it, some information about the future direction of the 
interface stack would be nice. I'm putting together bits and pieces and I 
think I fathom what is planned but some statement would be nice.



Good question, Gabriel, but I've found that in order to get the best 
information it is important to bother people as little as possible, and 
only to ask simple, very specific questions.


As soon as we get Freerunner into mass production everyone will breath a 
sigh of relieve and we'll be able to ask all the other questions. Right 
now I want to distract the team as little as possible from the single 
most important goal.


Michael

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Re: Neo1973 on eBay

2008-03-17 Thread ian douglas

Just under 3 days left!



ian douglas wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120232014254



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Re: 2.6.24 kernel RNDIS is not work when I use the same NeoRndis.inf

2008-03-17 Thread polz
On Monday 17 March 2008 10:03:04 Xiangfu Liu wrote:
 hi

 i flash my NEO1973 with the new kernel
 when i connect to the Windows XP
 it 's not  work
 i can see the Device in the computer but it is not work
 but it's work with Ubuntu.
Have you installed the neccessary drvers ?

Neo1973 presents itself as a USB ethernet card to the computer. Without the 
neccessary drivers, it can't work. The drivers are included with Ubuntu, For 
Windows, you're on your own.

You'll also need a program to connect to your Neo. I suggest you use putty.

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FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread Mark
Timo Jyrinki timo.jyrinki at gmail.com
wrote on Mon Mar 17 12:43:18 CET 2008:
  I have yet to come across any media file that I can't play on my N800;
 it plays ogg, wav, mp3, wma, wmv, xvid, etc.

It does not play eg. ogg, I was discussing out-of-the-box
functionality, ie. what the vendor supports which is the only thing
that matters in the big picture. I also mentioned that the vendor
actively rejects open media formats, which is also true as seen in the
HTML5 preparation discussions in addition to refusing to support those
formats in devices.

 It even plays some Web media that my desktop kubuntu machine won't.

Yes, it plays many closed, proprietary formats out-of-the-box, but
none of the open formats like ogg vorbis, ogg theora, flac, speex,
dirac. So it does not play any of my music out-of-the-box, and I'd
prefer to support vendors that support those formats.

You're speaking with forked tongue here: no other device plays all
those out of the box either, including full Linux desktops. Frankly,
since no commonly available consumer device is capable of playing
most of them under any circumstances, I'm not sure why that's a
consideration anyway. I personally am not interested in having to
store my media in 15 different formats just so I can say I'm using
an open format. If I can't drag and drop the same file onto each
and every one of my devices and have it play perfectly, I'm not
going to bother.

And lossless formats are a joke. They use such prodigious amounts
of storage space that there's really no point at all. Just use the
original media! And if you don't own the original media, you're
either a thief or you've been ripped off yourself. (Can you say,
iTunes?)

Ogg support is a few taps of the stylus away for IT OS2008.
It's no harder than simply starting an app. You're way exaggerating
the situation. You also deliberately left out xvid, which OS2008
plays through mplayer, also only a few taps away.

As for the Neo, the reason it's taking them so long to verify the
hardware is because they won't leave it alone long enough to get a
decent idea of its reliability. They aren't simply making certain the
existing design is ready, they keep making major changes. For
example, what they've done with the 850MHz vs. 900 MHz situation.
Every time you change the functionality, you have to recheck areas
that were perfectly fine before, and having two different versions
is going to complicate matters further.

(And the 850/900 issue is another one that shouldn't exist: if they
would use the quad-band gsm as a quad-band instead of crippling it,
it would be a whole lot better for everybody.)

Meanwhile, they keep going to major conventions and making all kinds
of announcements, but those announcements turn out to not be quite
in line with reality. If they want to keep everything behind closed
doors, fine, but then keep it that way. Don't keep making public
announcements. Vaporware is not the way to attract customers.

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FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread Mark
Michael Shiloh michael at openmoko.org
wrote on Mon Mar 17 17:34:14 CET 2008:
---
Very well put, Michele, and others who have said similar things.

I was describing this project to a friend, and for awhile he thought
this was just another cellphone or PDA. Then suddenly his eyes lit up
and he said Aha! I see. It's much more than a phone or a PDA.

It's people who have that insight that are best suited to the developer
release. Not because they possess special intelligence, but because
seeing the potential gives them the patience to put up with difficulties
like the tricky build process, daily changes in software, and our the
delays in manufacturing.

Of course we're happy to sell the unit to anyone, but if all you want is
a replacement for your PDA or cellphone, and if you want it in a hurry,
you should just go out and buy an existing device.

This distinction is not meant to disparage anyone. Those of you who want
more than a cellphone or PDA are in no way better than those who want an
open cellphone or PDA that just works. It's just that the goal will help
you put up with the hardships. Remember, once we start manufacturing and
shipping Freerunner, the challenges aren't over - in fact, for you, they
just begin!

Perhaps another distinction is this: If you look forward to the
challenges of making the Freerunner much more than a cellphone or PDA,
then please join us. If you have little interest in putting up with the
frustrations that will surely follow, you will do best to wait for the
consumer software to be ready.

Michael


...in other words, it *is* intended strictly as a developer's plaything,
and you have no interest whatsoever in selling to consumers. Because
with these attitudes, even if you do eventually come out with a
consumer version, they won't be interested. This has been my point all
along: what is your goal? If you ever want to sell this thing to
consumers, you're going to have to aim in their direction, not strictly
at developers. If you think you can suddenly start wooing consumers
after all the development is done, you have a rude awakening ahead...

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Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread ian douglas

Mark wrote:

Michael Shiloh michael at openmoko.org

If you have little interest in putting up with the
frustrations that will surely follow, you will do best to wait for the
consumer software to be ready.


...in other words, it *is* intended strictly as a developer's plaything,
and you have no interest whatsoever in selling to consumers.


Mark, did you even read Michael's last sentence? They *plan* for a 
consumer-ready product. They've said this all along.


I met Michael at a Linux expo here in Los Angeles and worked in the 
booth with him for a few hours, and I overheard him tell dozens of 
interested people that the hardware would be available to developers so 
they could assist with getting the software consumer-ready, and that the 
consumer-ready software would likely take a number of months to finish up.


I've been following this thread somewhat in silent awe, but it makes me 
wonder, Mark, why you keep up such a negative attitude about the Neo and 
Freerunner. If you're not happy waiting, look elsewhere. We're all fine 
(it seems, except you) waiting for regular status updates coming from 
Michael on behalf of the team in Taiwan. Michael is the liaison and 
gives up updates as he gets them. And asking the hardware techs to blog 
about status is a waste of time.


Please sit down and be patient like the rest of us, and either 
contribute something *constructive* to the list (and to the software), 
or unsubscribe from the mailing list. Your week's worth of ranting isn't 
solving anything.


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Re: 2.6.24 kernel RNDIS is not work when I use the same NeoRndis.inf

2008-03-17 Thread Nick Guenther
On 3/17/08, polz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 17 March 2008 10:03:04 Xiangfu Liu wrote:
   hi
  
   i flash my NEO1973 with the new kernel
   when i connect to the Windows XP
   it 's not  work
   i can see the Device in the computer but it is not work
   but it's work with Ubuntu.

 Have you installed the neccessary drvers ?

  Neo1973 presents itself as a USB ethernet card to the computer. Without the
  neccessary drivers, it can't work. The drivers are included with Ubuntu, For
  Windows, you're on your own.

  You'll also need a program to connect to your Neo. I suggest you use putty.


That's what NeoRndis.inf is for. So he has the driver installed,
that's not the problem. I think it seems like he knows what he's
doing, but just.. something is broken.

Xiangfu: do you see the Neo showing up in Network Connections or not?
Perhaps you need to uninstall the driver first and then plug the Neo
back in and let WinXP reinstall it and at the same time update some of
the many bits of secret Windows-data it uses to track devices?

-Nick

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Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread Piotr Duda



Mark pisze:
[...]

...in other words, it *is* intended strictly as a developer's plaything,
and you have no interest whatsoever in selling to consumers. Because
with these attitudes, even if you do eventually come out with a
consumer version, they won't be interested. This has been my point all
along: what is your goal? If you ever want to sell this thing to
consumers, you're going to have to aim in their direction, not strictly
at developers. If you think you can suddenly start wooing consumers
after all the development is done, you have a rude awakening ahead...



common... why cant U understand that aiming to consumer when hardware is NOT
ready  verified (not mentioning where is the software) is such stupid idea
like paring your nails with chain saw... maybe you achieve success, but for
sure, only once...
imagine some car manufacturer or any company in any industry selling cars or
anything without enough safety/reliability tests... this really have to be
avoided... believe me, U dont want to live in a world when something like that
is common... Ive been there, so U can believe me...

this is the place for developers and supporting community, neo is at THIS
STAGE and at THIS MOMENT also for developers and FOSS enthusiasts... it needs
TIME and lot of LOVE to become consumer device... and most of us hopes and
believes that it will be one day... for now Im sure that if somehow some
end-user gets here, he will quickly find out that it is not place for
her/him...  YET...

regards
Piotr


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Re: 2.6.24 kernel RNDIS is not work when I use the same NeoRndis.inf

2008-03-17 Thread Xiangfu Liu
 Xiangfu: do you see the Neo showing up in Network Connections or not?
 Perhaps you need to uninstall the driver first and then plug the Neo
 back in and let WinXP reinstall it and at the same time update some of
 the many bits of secret Windows-data it uses to track devices?
 -Nick

Thinks

i can't see the Neo in Network Connectins but i can see it in Device Management
with a BIG excalmatory point and ERROR CODE 10.

i uninstall the driver and plug again many times but it also not work .
it's work fine when i use the 2.6.22 or 2.6.23 kernel connect to the WINDOWS
2.6.24 kernel is not.
all the type of the kernel is work with my UBUNTU.
i think there is some change in  2.6.24 kernelUSB Networking
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my Blog : http://blog.chinaunix.net/u/13385/

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Re: 2.6.24 kernel RNDIS is not work when I use the same NeoRndis.inf

2008-03-17 Thread JW
A bug has just been listed saying that winxp-usb-neo works ok with
2.6.22 kernel but not 2.6.24

check it out - bug no 1279

sounds like you found same thing

maybe you can add your experience to bugzilla

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Re: FreeRunner delayed a further 6 months?!?!??

2008-03-17 Thread openmoko
 ...in other words, it *is* intended strictly as a developer's plaything,

I completely agree with this strictly because of the battery life on the
gta01.  If they ever had any intention of this being mass produced, they
would have got most of the hardware right the first time, and at least
tested the basic functionality.  I bought a gta01 because I thought it
would be fun to write software for.  However the one thing that has got me
since day 1 is the battery life.  I cant believe any company selling a
portable device would not test that.  I cant believe that is a hardware
issue.  I log in to these mailing lists just to find that someone posted a
patch for battery life.

But that never happens.  And I dont have time to support a project that I
feel is a flop before it ever flipped.  So for now, I just use it as an
irregular shaped hockey puck.  Its pretty good at that.


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