Re: 2008.8: Enlightenment crashing at bootup after upgrade
Am Montag, 1. September 2008 06:26:26 schrieb Thomas Bertani: In you case when does it crash?For me it crashes when startx occcurres... but I don't know if it is the same problem... Just before the icons should appear, I still could see the boots and the progress indicator in the background and got the SIGSEGV message in front. When I pressed recover in that window the X-server restarted and no boots/progress indicator showed up but I could see the gadget icons of illume (not the application icons) when the message appeared again. You can check if you have the same problem I got by doing a opkg list|grep libefreet0 If you have an entry saying libefreet0 - 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080702-r0 - The Enlightenment freedesktop.org library you should get rid of this version. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: prediction feature for the keyboard
Fredrik Wendt wrote: sön 2008-08-31 klockan 19:49 +0200 skrev Fredrik Wendt: [...] What I'd LOVE would be to use the entire screen as a keyboard (in landscape mode). A soft layer with low opacity containing only white letters and almost nothing more. http://wendt.se/software/openmoko/screens/keyboard-layer.png is quick a mockup of what I had in mind. That's a GREAT idea. Anyone up to creating such a thing? M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Copying image to internal flash
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William Kenworthy wrote: I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable. Before I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card, is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself? I'm interested in this too, but I'd like to know if there's a way to mount the rootfs partition when you're running a distro from the SD card. I can do only the contrary! See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD for some useful reference. Hope this helps. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mofi on FR
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: Why doesn't somebody fix the charmed file in the repos? This change has also been recommended in the GPRS with GSM Multiplexing and GUI subsection on the wiki. What happens in a real-world scenario is people trying to use vi on the phone's tiny screen estate, standing around wifi hotspots, if they know they have to change init() to _init(). Finding line 82 is very difficult unless you are a vi wizard. The tiny letters on the keyboard (and that's hoping it is raster's kbd, not the original one) make it even worse. vi command to locate line 82: :82 Then enter. Alakazam! hehe Sarton Cute! I only wish I had that information when I was fooling around on the FR looking like the ultimate geek in a public place. Oh, for the want of a proper text editor... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2008.8, sound not working after resume from suspend
Nishit Dave wrote: Now here's the bottom line: OM should either resolve the suspend-resume-sound issue, or give us a way in which the screen can be both blanked and locked. The current design 'feature' that a screen-locked phone cannot be blanked is really, well, unfortunate. Install illume-config-illume from testing or instll rasters image and update to asu stable. Both options will mean you can access the power configuration and enable screen blanking and disable suspend. The suspend option will look to be enabled in settings but this is wrong. It's actually the screen blanking time. I've only tested the raster image. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:39 AM, Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed the new libficgta01vendor.so file but no help, echo freerunner, then installed the package (--force-downgrade is required), rebooted and placed another call. The echo was gone. Some people however still complain about the echo. It seems to depend on the speaker volume, but I'll investigate a bit further. It's just that my time for working on the phone is very limited. I did the patch (including the test) in about 2 hours and haven't had any time since then. Please be patient and report your experience. I'm pretty confident that we can solve this issue. Florian, could you perhaps paste here your gsmhandset.state, please? i will run some more tests tomorrow If we force a downgrade, will we need to downgrade libficgta again after the next full-scale upgrade? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cpoying image to internal flash
Alasal wrote: Please define almost usable. I use the om2008.8 and I'm happy with it. It has some limitations, but I can live with it. But ofcourse if the unstable 2008.9 is more stable than om2008.8, I would love to 2008.9. So therefor some questions about the usability: - Can you connect to wifi, then disconnect, go into suspend, go out of suspend and reconnect? - Can you go into suspend, go out of suspend and connect the usb and ping to it? - Does it take also 10 sec before you here the ring of someone calling Suspend is still broken afaik. Yes, it still takes some time for the display and ring to actually initiate. If you use opkg update/upgrade, these issues are likely to be fixed in the future and you can report when they are. Otherwise you will be asking this quetion every update, as I would be if I didn't put faith in the developers and test their software so I can report success or failure. The more you use what is being developed, the more you will submit information releveant to fixing the problems, rather than asking if they are still there. And it's not simply a matter of picking the working distribution, they all seem to have a similar set of core problems, except for maybe debian, of which I'm yet to play with. So unless people take the leap of faith, these things will only take longer to fix. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QTopia full screen handwriting on OM2008?
Hello, According to Trolltech's documentation ( http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/inputmethods-description.html), QTopia supports handwriting recognition. Is there some way to get handwriting recognition to work on the OM 2008 distribution? I don't want to start a discussion about the pros and cons of virtual keyboards, but I've been happy with the 'handwriting' recognition on my Sony Ericsson P910i, and just not having a keyboard covering half the screen would be nice. /Erland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mofi on FR
Nishit Dave wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: Why doesn't somebody fix the charmed file in the repos? This change has also been recommended in the GPRS with GSM Multiplexing and GUI subsection on the wiki. What happens in a real-world scenario is people trying to use vi on the phone's tiny screen estate, standing around wifi hotspots, if they know they have to change init() to _init(). Finding line 82 is very difficult unless you are a vi wizard. The tiny letters on the keyboard (and that's hoping it is raster's kbd, not the original one) make it even worse. vi command to locate line 82: :82 Then enter. Alakazam! hehe Sarton Cute! I only wish I had that information when I was fooling around on the FR looking like the ultimate geek in a public place. Oh, for the want of a proper text editor... I understand. There are very few commands that are required in order to use vi effectively but I know from experience, I was lucky to have learned these very early on in my *nix career. The best one I find is the ability to suck in output from an external command: !!grep value ./defaults/config A life saver when you have no copy and paste! Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RFC: delete page USB
robin paulson wrote: Michael Shiloh wrote: Paul Jimenez wrote: Don't delete it; someone will recreate it. Make it a redirect to the Category:USB page. while we're on the subject, do these exist for the other major parts of the phone? i.e. 'wifi' redirect to 'category:wifi', 'gps' redirect to 'category:gps', 'accelerometer(s)' redirect to 'category:accelerometers', and so on? Dunno. I'll check. If someone can help, jump on in. M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mofi on FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: Why doesn't somebody fix the charmed file in the repos? This change has also been recommended in the GPRS with GSM Multiplexing and GUI subsection on the wiki. What happens in a real-world scenario is people trying to use vi on the phone's tiny screen estate, standing around wifi hotspots, if they know they have to change init() to _init(). Finding line 82 is very difficult unless you are a vi wizard. The tiny letters on the keyboard (and that's hoping it is raster's kbd, not the original one) make it even worse. vi command to locate line 82: :82 Then enter. Alakazam! hehe Sarton Cute! I only wish I had that information when I was fooling around on the FR looking like the ultimate geek in a public place. Oh, for the want of a proper text editor... I understand. There are very few commands that are required in order to use vi effectively but I know from experience, I was lucky to have learned these very early on in my *nix career. The best one I find is the ability to suck in output from an external command: !!grep value ./defaults/config A life saver when you have no copy and paste! Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Is there an opkg package for emacs? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Sunday 31 August 2008, Petr Vanek wrote:
Florian, could you perhaps paste here your gsmhandset.state, please?
i will run some more tests tomorrow
Here it comes, I never modified it BTW. One of the tests I have not yet
had time to carry out, is whether the echo cancellation is still on
after a suspend / resume by GSM event cycle. It would be great if you
could report back on that.
Cheers,
Florian
--
DI Florian Hackenberger
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.hackenberger.at
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Re: OM2008.8, sound not working after resume from suspend
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: Now here's the bottom line: OM should either resolve the suspend-resume-sound issue, or give us a way in which the screen can be both blanked and locked. The current design 'feature' that a screen-locked phone cannot be blanked is really, well, unfortunate. Install illume-config-illume from testing or instll rasters image and update to asu stable. Both options will mean you can access the power configuration and enable screen blanking and disable suspend. The suspend option will look to be enabled in settings but this is wrong. It's actually the screen blanking time. I've only tested the raster image. I know, I already have the spanner and power settings. What is needed is a way to blank and lock without suspending. Will illume-config-illume enable it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using openocd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lynn- Lynn Nguyen ??: Yeah it's loading the correct openocd.cfg file. I even added random commands to it and i saw those commands in the error messages. I even used -f to be sure. * Could you check the .cfg file is comes with, it should called openocd-debugv2.cfg : 1. ft2232_vid_pid 0x1457 0x5118 2. And adjust jtag_speed to higher number (4 or 8, default is 0) * And is your debug board UART (terminal console) is working? If still not working, you might could erase the EEPROM content in the debug board again, return the default USB ID 0403 6010. They see if the UART and openocd could work. Regards, - -- Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) Openmoko, Inc. Support. Some questions could be answered by reference following link: Wiki - http://wiki.openmoko.org Download - http://downloads.openmoko.org Freerunner Introduction - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner I was wondering if anyone was using the Neo1973 (GTA01v4) with Debug board v3. I used the openocd.cfg available on the wiki and I get this problem: Info:openocd.c:82 main(): Open On-Chip Debugger (2006-08-01 12:00 CEST) Info:configuration.c:50 configuration_output_handler(): Command ft2232_device_desc not found Info:configuration.c:50 configuration_output_handler(): Command ft2232_layout not found Info:configuration.c:50 configuration_output_handler(): Command ft2232_vid_pid not found Error: jtag.c:1219 jtag_init(): No valid jtag interface found (ft2232) It seems like openocd is having some trouble with ft2232 because I don't see anything wrong with those commands. Does your openocd load neo1973 specific config? like tmp/openocd -f tmp/openocd-debugv2.cfg Usually it is because your USB vid/pid setting is not correct in the config file(load the wrong config file) Hope this helps. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAki7nRcACgkQmV6sZhhBn2/jIACgjEh/KVZXXdhD4sLyZh17d9gA DG4AnAmOZwoBDKSqNn3mua2WQnvi9xCp =wz/W -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8: Enlightenment crashing at bootup after upgrade
On Monday 01 September 2008 06:26:26 Thomas Bertani wrote: In you case when does it crash?For me it crashes when startx occcurres... but I don't know if it is the same problem... Yes, It crashes while loading X. I can see already the upper icon bar. Just before the rest of the screen (the application icons) should appear I get the fat white MessageBox saying that enlightenment has crashed. If I press retry, X will restart ending up in the same situation. If I press cancel, X will stop and I'm stuck at the terminal. I think it is the same problem. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally
On Aug 31, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: 1) http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ Hello everyone, it's my first post here. :-) It might be blunt, but does anyone have old images of 2008.8-update without this problem with unconditional suspend? Or maybe there could be an archive of, say, week of packages (they have date in their filename anyway), so if one version doesn't suddenly do what you want, you can always try the previous one? Best regards, Maciej Delmanowski / harnir ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Warning: 2008.8.26+updates from testing have kernel problems
Hi, Upgrading a few minutes ago complained about a few modules (sorry I didn't copy paste them :( ) and after the phone rebooted, my computer doesn't recognize the usb0 interface. In my computer's dmesg I see: [ 106.130421] hub 2-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe the USB cable is bad? [ 108.702626] hub 2-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe the USB cable is bad? [ 110.041076] hub 2-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe the USB cable is bad? [ 111.376328] hub 2-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1. Maybe the USB cable is bad? (...) I guess it's time to try FSO milestone 2 ;) Rui -- Frink! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 25th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally
seems that the 20080901 solves this, but no apps :) only settings, I suppose there will be no problem on intall them from repository this afternoon I will give a try On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Maciej Delmanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Aug 31, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: 1) http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ Hello everyone, it's my first post here. :-) It might be blunt, but does anyone have old images of 2008.8-update without this problem with unconditional suspend? Or maybe there could be an archive of, say, week of packages (they have date in their filename anyway), so if one version doesn't suddenly do what you want, you can always try the previous one? Best regards, Maciej Delmanowski / harnir ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates
Yorick Moko wrote: you can just opkg install url_to_the_*.ipk It seems to have conflicts with illume : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume_0.0+svnr35693-r13_all.ipk Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume_0.0+svnr35693-r13_all.ipk Installing illume-config-illume (0.0+svnr35693-r13) to root... Collected errors: * Package illume-config-illume wants to install file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config/illume/module.battery.cfg But that file is already provided by package * illume * Package illume-config-illume wants to install file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config/illume/module.illume.cfg But that file is already provided by package * illume * Package illume-config-illume wants to install file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config/illume/e.cfg But that file is already provided by package * illume I need to do : opkg -force-overwrite install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume_0.0+svnr35693-r13_all.ipk After a reboot and even with export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia , I get no illume's keyboard nor tools icon in the upper left corner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michele Renda ha scritto: Hi Aapo Thank you for your tip! I will wait your server will become available and I will try to build it, and, I will try to make a deb package. Thank you Michele Renda I've made a .deb package here [1], it's an italian forum but it will be clear where to get the .deb (3rd post there is an attachment). Keep in mind that it's my first deb (i'm a gentoo user) so it should be tested, on my FR it works quite well. Pietro [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,325.msg2975.html#msg2975 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mofi on FR
Shawn Thompson wrote: Is there an opkg package for emacs? I've just added emacs (and tichy, pidgin, epdfview, microcom and midori) to task-openmoko-feed, so any properly-set-up feed for Openmoko (such as shr.bearstech.com) should have it after the next autobuild run. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
AT%N0187 openmoko echo patch?
Hi, where is the AT%N command documented? Are there more magic AT-commands? What does the value 0187 mean? Dietmar Friede ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AT%N0187 openmoko echo patch?
On Monday 01 September 2008, Dietmar Friede wrote: Hi, where is the AT%N command documented? Officially: nowhere, they seem to be under an NDA. There was a post stating the commands from a user under [1]. Are there more magic AT-commands? Very likely, yes. What does the value 0187 mean? The only thing I know about it is 'Enable AEC and Noise reduction', which is the response you get from the phone if you send the command. As OM currently does not seem to have the resources (or motivation as there are more pressing problems) to improve the echo situation it maybe useful if someone from the community could sign an NDA with TI. Maybe OM could help on this front (establishing communication with TI)? [1] http://n2.nabble.com/calypso-hardware-echo-suppression--tp784752p786187.html -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cpoying image to internal flash
I partitioned the SD card with 2G vfat for p1 and the rest as ext2 as p2 (8G card) Then copy the files you want accessible from (in my case) 2007.2 into the first partition. The uboot will start from the SD image fine from the uboot menu (picks up the uImage.bin file and seems to not care there are other files/dirs present), while booted into 2007.2 its on /mnt/card, and /media/mmcblk0p1 as is usual, with the second partition on /media/mmcblk0p2 BillK On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 07:42 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable. Before I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card, is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself? I'm interested in this too, but I'd like to know if there's a way to mount the rootfs partition when you're running a distro from the SD card. I can do only the contrary! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Copying image to internal flash
Thanks, the link is much appreciated. BillK On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 08:24 +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William Kenworthy wrote: I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable. Before I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card, is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself? I'm interested in this too, but I'd like to know if there's a way to mount the rootfs partition when you're running a distro from the SD card. I can do only the contrary! See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD for some useful reference. Hope this helps. Best regards, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally
On Sep 01, David Samblas wrote: seems that the 20080901 solves this, but no apps :) only settings, I suppose there will be no problem on intall them from repository this afternoon I will give a try I installed this image few minutes ago and it still suspends after 30s of screen inactivity, even with suspend turned off. harnir ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mofi on FR
Rod Whitby wrote: Shawn Thompson wrote: Is there an opkg package for emacs? I've just added emacs (and tichy, pidgin, epdfview, microcom and midori) to task-openmoko-feed, so any properly-set-up feed for Openmoko (such as shr.bearstech.com) should have it after the next autobuild run. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Awesome, I'm supposed to receive my phone on sept 11th so I am looking forward to using emacs from my phone's terminal :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AT%N0187 openmoko echo patch?
Florian Hackenberger wrote: On Monday 01 September 2008, Dietmar Friede wrote: Hi, where is the AT%N command documented? Officially: nowhere, they seem to be under an NDA. There was a post stating the commands from a user under [1]. They certainly are not in our copy of the calypso spec's that we got directly from TI. If it is, I must be missing it, and haven't found it. Are there more magic AT-commands? Very likely, yes. What does the value 0187 mean? The only thing I know about it is 'Enable AEC and Noise reduction', which is the response you get from the phone if you send the command. As OM currently does not seem to have the resources (or motivation as there are more pressing problems) to improve the echo situation it maybe useful if someone from the community could sign an NDA with TI. Maybe OM could help on this front (establishing communication with TI)? [1] http://n2.nabble.com/calypso-hardware-echo-suppression--tp784752p786187.html -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you Pietro! I will test as soon, and I will give you a feedback. It will be nice to have a little repository for all the person that use Debian on FR where they can find the programs that are unavailable on the Debian official channed ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 03:27:41PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are just working over ssh I have a small workaround for you. Most of Ah - very useful - thank you. :-) the time, before the Neo suspends, the X-Screensaver comes up. If you wake the Hmm, perhaps the xscreensaver is involved in this? Does anyone know where the suspend parameters (for lack of a better term) is stored? Or which command is used to change them? Yes, seems to be the screensaver. Switch it off with `xset s off'. But it seems to disable suspend completely, no matter what you set in settings. Ole pgptHF6pYQCEf.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AT%N0187 openmoko echo patch?
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They certainly are not in our copy of the calypso spec's that we got directly from TI. If it is, I must be missing it, and haven't found it. Maybe TI just wants their products to suck? What I mean: is this standard practice in this business? What possible gain would TI have with not giving you that information? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No new feeds in openmoko-feedreader2?
I've opened openmoko-feedreader2 and I've noticed that there isn't any way to insert a new feed among the default feeds. When clicking on the new feed icon in the 3th tab, nothing happens, and the command line messages do not help to understand where's the problem. what about copying and posting those messages here? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do others have sound on Debian?
Do you others who run Debian on the Freerunner have sound? yes. What have you done to get it working? nothing, afair, worked out of the box. any error messages when playing or just silence? did you check the mixer's settings? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8 - latest update - FR suspends after 30 secs - unconditionally
On Monday 01 September 2008 12:51:10 Ole Kliemann wrote: Yes, seems to be the screensaver. Switch it off with `xset s off'. But it seems to disable suspend completely, no matter what you set in settings. Great. Thanks. This makes it usable at least. I have tried 2008.08-update with the testing feed int the meantime. The issue seems to be resolved there. So we may get a fix for this in the near future. And now, back to stable feeds :) (testing currently seems to have problem with gtk GUI painting) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michele Renda, 2008-09-01 10:56:52 +0200 : It will be nice to have a little repository for all the person that use Debian on FR where they can find the programs that are unavailable on the Debian official channed ! That's exactly what the pkg-fso repository is about, you know. Roland. -- Roland Mas It would be hard to be deader without special training. -- in Theatre of Cruelty (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fennec on Openmoko
to an Ubuntu box, extract them from the deb file dpkg -x filname.deb extract to dir create a tarball, that's rather ... long-winded, three far easier ways spring to mind: 1) alien -t midori...deb produces a tar.gz from the deb 2) ar x midori...deb splits the deb in it's three parts, use the data.tar.gz 3 try opkg install midori...deb ipk and deb are somewhat similar -- it might just work (at least the metadata package information is stored on a different place, so i won't really recommend doing that unless you know your system! i mention it for completeness' sake). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do others have sound on Debian?
I have sound with Debian. After first installation i also thought that sound doesn't work at all. But after some tests i found out that just not all apps seems to work with sound. Firstly in the default installation only alsa is supported, no oss or pulseaudio. But even not all apps with alsa support works for me. I tried mpg123 but this never worked. I only get some error messages after a few seconds. Than i tried mpgx which freezes every time i try to load a mp3 file. After that i tried the most basic alsaplayer which works as my first sound app. Audacious/qmmp/mplayer also plays mp3 as well for me. But i had to pull up the mixer levels to hear anything. Below ~90% mixer level i can't hear anything. After installation of the alsa-oss oss-wrapper module i could also use the oss output of the audio apps. Ciao, Rainer Michele Renda wrote: Hi Sven No, you are not the only to have this problem. I have the same problem too. I am working in something to solve something else then I want to try to have a look on it. Good lucky Michele 2008/8/31 Sven Bretfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Since I got no answer to yesterdays question, I wonder if I'm the only one to have that problem. Do you others who run Debian on the Freerunner have sound? What have you done to get it working? Thanks for help Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
why much cpu-time for SDIO Helper
Hi, why does [SDIO Helper] get quite some CPU time without really using the SD card (it's mounted, but I don't access/use it at all...) : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uptime 11:55:17 up 2 days, 13:50, 3 users, load average: 2.65, 5.16, 6.47 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps up 301 USER PID %CPU %MEMVSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 301 1.8 0.0 0 0 ?S Aug29 68:30 [SDIO Helper] Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
testing 20080901 first steps to 2008.09??
I'm only corious, I have being taking a look to the http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20080901.rootfs.tar.gz intalling it to my sd card, Inspite the it's really barebones, I have seen very interestings things by default, the raster ilume pack: qwerty on/off button the illume keyboard (oh Yes! :) ) illume configuration the backgound image is pretty zen and beatifull and screen dims smothly. Of course it's not functional at all because it has no apps but settings (that doesn't work for me), and I was unnable to ssh to it so I was no able to not further testing, but doesn't matter because is clear is a proof-of concept release. I will wait for the next test release (maybe tomorrow?, it's a really dayly?) My question is , I can assume the good things mentioned avobe will be mantained in the oficial (semi-stable) 2008.09 release? Have you decide the date off that 2008.09 release? Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: why much cpu-time for SDIO Helper
Harald Koenig escreveu: Hi, why does [SDIO Helper] get quite some CPU time without really using the SD card (it's mounted, but I don't access/use it at all...) : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uptime 11:55:17 up 2 days, 13:50, 3 users, load average: 2.65, 5.16, 6.47 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps up 301 USER PID %CPU %MEMVSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 301 1.8 0.0 0 0 ?S Aug29 68:30 [SDIO Helper] Isn't SDIO used for the Wifi chip on the GTA02? (The SD card is on the Glamo IIRC.) -- Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AT%N0187 openmoko echo patch?
On Mon, September 1, 2008 6:59 pm, Yorick Moko wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They certainly are not in our copy of the calypso spec's that we got directly from TI. If it is, I must be missing it, and haven't found it. Maybe TI just wants their products to suck? What I mean: is this standard practice in this business? What possible gain would TI have with not giving you that information? They could avoid having to pay the extra cost of getting a competent and thorough documentation writer? Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence!! NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 10:56 +0200 schrieb Michele Renda: Thank you Pietro! I will test as soon, and I will give you a feedback. It will be nice to have a little repository for all the person that use Debian on FR where they can find the programs that are unavailable on the Debian official channed ! That’s basically what pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org is for. At least for packages that could be in official Debian eventually, such as pypennotes[1]. But we do apply roughly the same quality requirements than for the real archive and want all packages eventually in Debian. I’m planing to include numpty-physics eventually, at the latest when the version with the on-screen buttons is available. We are also welcoming anyone else to create packages for the repository, if they are willing to properly maintain it in Debian later. I guess http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ is a starting point for that. Greetings, Joachim [1] http://pkg-fso.nomeata.de/sid/pypennotes -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Please split this list!
Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... All the best, Thorben PS: Yes I know how to handle filtering on the client side. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: testing 20080901 first steps to 2008.09??
I'm only corious, I have being taking a look to the http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing-om-gta02-20080901.rootfs.tar.gz intalling it to my sd card, Inspite the it's really barebones, I have seen very interestings things by default, the raster ilume pack: qwerty on/off button the illume keyboard (oh Yes! :) ) illume configuration I think that being up-to-date from the feeds here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ Brings the same, no? -jec ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AT%N0187 openmoko echo patch?
NeilBrown escreveu: On Mon, September 1, 2008 6:59 pm, Yorick Moko wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They certainly are not in our copy of the calypso spec's that we got directly from TI. If it is, I must be missing it, and haven't found it. Maybe TI just wants their products to suck? What I mean: is this standard practice in this business? What possible gain would TI have with not giving you that information? They could avoid having to pay the extra cost of getting a competent and thorough documentation writer? Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence!! You can have other explanations which are neither malice nor incompetence. - That command might be broken or incomplete in some way, so it's not documented. - That command might be meant for internal debugging only, so it's not documented. I came up with these two in less than a minute. We can probably easily think of other valid justifications. -- Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please split this list!
I second that idea. Mainly because it is difficult to understand which context people are talking in... most people don't remember to say which distro they are using, and frankly I don't think they should have to... And it does make a big difference. Maybe keep this list as a distro-neutral list, and add new ones for OM2008.8, FSO, Debian, etc..? Citando Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... All the best, Thorben PS: Yes I know how to handle filtering on the client side. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lemmings
apt-get install pingus I tested pingus on debian/Freerunner. When screen is portrait, resolution (480*640) works in game, but 'menus' and intros is little bit hard. I saw one or two pixel of OK-button, luckily I know where to look it, so I got the game on. Level choosing is made by cool map, which is not scrollable/scalable, so I do not know what happens if you play more levels what you see in first view of that map. (I play just first level) Game is very playable with small screen and with pen, there is no need to second mouse button. -Aapo Rantalainen Pingus is really great fun with a touchscreen - I used to play it on a tablet PC. It's easier than using a mouse because you just tap the action button (ie dig) and then tap each of the penguins you want to start digging/etc. If someone gets it going on the Neo I may never get anything done ever again. Your wish is my command. http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=pingus indicates it's available for Debian for FreeRunner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8: Enlightenment crashing at bootup after upgrade
2008/9/1 Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 01 September 2008 06:26:26 Thomas Bertani wrote: In you case when does it crash?For me it crashes when startx occcurres... but I don't know if it is the same problem... Yes, It crashes while loading X. I can see already the upper icon bar. Just before the rest of the screen (the application icons) should appear I get the fat white MessageBox saying that enlightenment has crashed. If I press retry, X will restart ending up in the same situation. If I press cancel, X will stop and I'm stuck at the terminal. I think it is the same problem. no... for me it crashes after the percentage bar, after that the screen became black and nothing more appends... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin before crashing debian on my 8G-sd with experiments with apm i was able to exchange files with my bt-enabled se-w810i right-click on bluetooth-applet - browse device - choose w810i and connect. first time i did the passkey-dialog appeared and everything was fine .. sending/receiving data worked like a charm. now after reinstalling i wanted to connect to w810i again but the passkey-dialog doen't appear and that's where the story ends - no pairing, no file-exchange .. could anyone point out what's missing here? which packet to install? which config to change? (manually running bluetooth-applet from terminal within fr shows nothing) regards, morlac - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIu9iyr81gVylJyzERAmdTAJ49mM36rd8PIQoQ9EDsYgd1NLHGigCg7nQd j8eV14l352jg5XwUIYotKNs= =CAzq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8: Enlightenment crashing at bootup after upgrade
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:56:02 +0200 Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Monday 01 September 2008 06:26:26 Thomas Bertani wrote: In you case when does it crash?For me it crashes when startx occcurres... but I don't know if it is the same problem... Yes, It crashes while loading X. I can see already the upper icon bar. Just before the rest of the screen (the application icons) should appear I get the fat white MessageBox saying that enlightenment has crashed. If I press retry, X will restart ending up in the same situation. If I press cancel, X will stop and I'm stuck at the terminal. I think it is the same problem. all i can imagine is that in the whole mess of testing, dev, stable feeds etc. some package has not been built right and with the right version. i reflash (cleanly) the dev build images i made and they work - this segv did exist and i fixed it. so either a change has not been pushed through from dev or its something new - but i haven't been able to reproduce on a clean image. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth
before crashing debian on my 8G-sd with experiments with apm i was able to exchange files with my bt-enabled se-w810i right-click on bluetooth-applet - browse device - choose w810i and connect. first time i did the passkey-dialog appeared and everything was fine .. sending/receiving data worked like a charm. what dm/de did you use? zhone? xfce? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.8 update: Wrench doesn't appear even with illume-config installed
Since the first update of 2008.8, I cannot get the wrench for configuring illume. I have installed illume-config, as the wiki said, but the wrench does not appear. I have searched and all articles say that installing illume-config is all that I have to do. I installed 080830 update, and got the same problem. Am I missing anything? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please split this list!
Since we're talking about the mailing lists, I still receive (randomly), three repeated mails, two repeated mails, etc... This mail from Vasco... I received it three times already! :) Rui On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 12:24:03PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second that idea. Mainly because it is difficult to understand which context people are talking in... most people don't remember to say which distro they are using, and frankly I don't think they should have to... And it does make a big difference. Maybe keep this list as a distro-neutral list, and add new ones for OM2008.8, FSO, Debian, etc..? Citando Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... All the best, Thorben PS: Yes I know how to handle filtering on the client side. -- Umlaut Zebra �ber alles! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 25th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 update: Wrench doesn't appear even with illume-config installed
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the first update of 2008.8, I cannot get the wrench for configuring illume. I have installed illume-config, as the wiki said, but the wrench does not appear. I have searched and all articles say that installing illume-config is all that I have to do. I installed 080830 update, and got the same problem. Am I missing anything? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 :-( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 sry i missed that - i am using xfce - by now i installed everything with 'obex' in the name Am 01.09.2008 um 14:02 schrieb arne anka: before crashing debian on my 8G-sd with experiments with apm i was able to exchange files with my bt-enabled se-w810i right-click on bluetooth-applet - browse device - choose w810i and connect. first time i did the passkey-dialog appeared and everything was fine .. sending/receiving data worked like a charm. what dm/de did you use? zhone? xfce? - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIu9uMr81gVylJyzERAj97AJ0bw6z7poEGf6MTNeHbbS6gRfsVYwCg9Igy eRQS2ehw18siajhzh3iOcFE= =PGj/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear OpenMoko community, the FSO packaging team of the Debian project[1] is happy to announce that we have started to provide installation procedures and packages required to have your FreeRunner[2] run Debian-powered. Is there a link with the emdebian project ? It is not clear to me what's the real difference between emdebian and what you have done, as I know very few about emdebian after all. Just to get some clarification... but very good job, thank you. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko armv4t vs Debien armel
Hi, Are these the same arch? Are they meaning the same? If I take an armel package from Debian armel, will it run on ASU which is armv4t? Thanks for hints -jec ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth
sry i missed that - i am using xfce - by now i installed everything with 'obex' in the name what bt-applet did you have? the only one i found so far is that little panel applet someone from the list created and that only allows you to en-/disable gsm, wifi, gps, bt and shows battery status. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 update: Wrench doesn't appear even with illume-config installed
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:13 +0200 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the first update of 2008.8, I cannot get the wrench for configuring illume. I have installed illume-config, as the wiki said, but the wrench does not appear. I have searched and all articles say that installing illume-config is all that I have to do. I installed 080830 update, and got the same problem. Am I missing anything? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume (wipe your old one - if u had one) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 update: Wrench doesn't appear even with illume-configinstalled
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 :-( Oh, I'm very sorry, but I didn't find that. And the wiki has those intructions to get the wrench on screen. Isn't there a way to call the configuration program from terminal? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please split this list!
I remove your second! Please dont split the list. People tend to post to all the current OM lists just so those who arn't subscribed to one can be sure to get a copy - and those who are subscribed to all the lists (that is those you can find) end up getting multiple posts. Enough with splitters! Filter on the client side and leave the rest of us alone :) BillK On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 12:24 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second that idea. Mainly because it is difficult to understand which context people are talking in... most people don't remember to say which distro they are using, and frankly I don't think they should have to... And it does make a big difference. Maybe keep this list as a distro-neutral list, and add new ones for OM2008.8, FSO, Debian, etc..? Citando Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... All the best, Thorben PS: Yes I know how to handle filtering on the client side. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth
could it be you had bluez-gnome installed? since you have an 8gb card and xfce uses gtk the dependencies should not worry you -- the only other graphical passkey agent i know in debian is in kdebluetooth whcih you probaly would remember if you installed it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i am using the bluetooth-applet found in bluez-gnome and just found what was wrong here: nautilus (also installed) was segfaulting .. regards, morlac Am 01.09.2008 um 14:17 schrieb arne anka: sry i missed that - i am using xfce - by now i installed everything with 'obex' in the name what bt-applet did you have? the only one i found so far is that little panel applet someone from the list created and that only allows you to en-/disable gsm, wifi, gps, bt and shows battery status. - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIu99sr81gVylJyzERAlUtAJ9TRgGWfDOt6bexf2K/NKb5/AyiEQCgw5ay ut7qS2YrQAzyKkV5pVmr8+U= =ZPuN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Hi, Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 14:11 +0200 schrieb Olivier Berger: Is there a link with the emdebian project ? It is not clear to me what's the real difference between emdebian and what you have done, as I know very few about emdebian after all. Just to get some clarification... but very good job, thank you. The url is very creative: http://www.emdebian.org/ :-) emdebian, AFAIK, does * provide cross-compilation * reduces package size by removing documentation * changes some compile options to further reduce package size The last point makes it, in corner cases, problematic to mix with the official archive. Also, emdebian does not cover all of the archive yet. At the moment, emdebian does not support python, because python seems to be hard to cross-compile, therefore we base our system for FreeRunner on the official Debian for now. Eventually, when emdebian can run all the apps that we need (well, python should be the only problem), it will also be able to run the FreeRunner specific package, which by then are in the official archive. I’m sure someone, maybe us, maybe the emdebian guys will provide an installer or image based on emdebian. This will give users the choice between the two. I hope that clarifies some points. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please split this list!
Hi, Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 13:06 +0200 schrieb Thorben Krueger: Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... I oppose a split. There are already too many lists, and it’s hard to draw a clear separation between them. And with distributions it’s not clear either. Some bugs or ideas, although discovered on 2008.8, apply also to FSO. Debian, for example, is just another base running FSO, so most Debian related mails are also FSO related. With exception of those by people running xfce. Unless, of course, it’s X server related... Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim Breitner e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.joachim-breitner.de ICQ#: 74513189 Jabber-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - bluetooth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 your're right _THIS_ one i would remember! :D i solved my prob by re-installing the segfaulting nautilus - now the passkey dialog appears again .. regards, morlac - sometimes in need of a little distance to see what's (not) going on Am 01.09.2008 um 14:25 schrieb arne anka: could it be you had bluez-gnome installed? since you have an 8gb card and xfce uses gtk the dependencies should not worry you -- the only other graphical passkey agent i know in debian is in kdebluetooth whcih you probaly would remember if you installed it. - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIu+Fyr81gVylJyzERArSoAJ9QGsCvgHFs/HTQIuu1yiR1ig0RnwCgsQYC vu4T9WDjF3+iVfQ7gGX2cgU= =krF/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please split this list!
I think the best solution is perhaps one list with subject of message prefixed by the distibution : [FSO] , [SHR] , etc Yorick Moko a écrit : On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Thorben Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... I personally don't feel much for splitting it. Some problems will appear on different distro's or interest people who use different distro's. And I like the fact this list reaches many people. But once again; this is only my personal opinion. y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No new feeds in openmoko-feedreader2?
Il giorno lun, 01/09/2008 alle 11.05 +0200, arne anka ha scritto: I've opened openmoko-feedreader2 and I've noticed that there isn't any way to insert a new feed among the default feeds. When clicking on the new feed icon in the 3th tab, nothing happens, and the command line messages do not help to understand where's the problem. what about copying and posting those messages here? Nothing special, at the end. When I press the icon to add new feeds it doesn't show any particular message. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/Maps# export DISPLAY=:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/Maps# openmoko-feedreader2 ** (process:1904): DEBUG: openmoko-feedreader2 starting up (openmoko-feedreader2:1904): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'moko-call-reject'. The 'hicolor' theme was not found either, perhaps you need to install it. You can get a copy from: http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases ** (openmoko-feedreader2:1904): DEBUG: Reading cached object 'http://planet.openmoko.org/atom.xml' ** (openmoko-feedreader2:1904): DEBUG: Reading cached object 'http://planet.gnome.org/atom.xml' ** (openmoko-feedreader2:1904): DEBUG: Reading cached object 'http://planet.kde.org/rss20.xml' ** (openmoko-feedreader2:1904): DEBUG: Reading cached object 'http://planet.linuxtogo.org/atom.xml' ** (openmoko-feedreader2:1904): DEBUG: Reading cached object 'http://zecke.blogspot.com/atom.xml' ** (openmoko-feedreader2:1904): DEBUG: Done loading from cache But there are errors related to icons. You think I have to solve them to start the function associated with the button? However icons are visible in the application, so I think we have to search the problem on other ways. -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.altervista.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please split this list!
Filter on the client side and leave the rest of us alone :) that works only, if _everybody_ pust a distinctive feature in the subject. there are a lot of messages with no marker whatsoever that the deal with (mostly) 2008.8, since the ops are obviously ignorant of the fact that the lists cover support and community not only 2008.8. though i am against splitting. i skim the posts and try to filter what's of interest to me or where i maybe could help -- that works for me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Joachim Breitner wrote: At the moment, emdebian does not support python, because python seems to be hard to cross-compile Hmm - OpenEmbedded has no problems cross-compiling python ... Perhaps it's a bit of NIH rather than hardness ;-) -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian and Zhone
I regulary upgrade my debian system every 1-2 days. In the last 2 days i got an update for zhone automatically installed which doesn't work anymore. Now when i start zhone the zhone screen appears as normal window within xfce like before. When i didn't do anything the screen gets dimed and short after that locked which works fine like before. But as soon as i try to click one of the four main applications like dialer or sms zhone freeze. I have to kill the window and after a new start it's the same and the /tmp/zhone.log file is empty. When i use apt-cache show zhone i see version 0-git20080809-4 but no date from when this package really is. With the last version before this update it works normally the few times i started it. Is there anything known to make problems with this new version? And another thing is, if there are any alternatives for debian to use the phone functions with a bit more comfort like in 2008.9? Because zhone really isn't the kind of program which i wanted to use with my neo as daily phone, which is the state i want to reach in the near future. And dualboot between 2008.9 and debian isn't the best solution. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 update: Wrench doesn't appear even with illume-configinstalled
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:13 +0200 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the first update of 2008.8, I cannot get the wrench for configuring illume. I have installed illume-config, as the wiki said, but the wrench does not appear. I have searched and all articles say that installing illume-config is all that I have to do. I installed 080830 update, and got the same problem. Am I missing anything? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume (wipe your old one - if u had one) I did that, but wrench didn't appear even after rebooting :-( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No new feeds in openmoko-feedreader2?
But there are errors related to icons. You think I have to solve them to start the function associated with the button? However icons are visible only if you suspect that missing icons mean functions not accessible -- but for missing icons probably generic ones are used, i think. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Hi, Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 22:11 +0930 schrieb Rod Whitby: Joachim Breitner wrote: At the moment, emdebian does not support python, because python seems to be hard to cross-compile Hmm - OpenEmbedded has no problems cross-compiling python ... Perhaps it's a bit of NIH rather than hardness ;-) I haven’t looked at it myself, but I was told that OpenEmbedded had to patch upstream python quite a bit. The Emdebian guys are going to see what OpenEmbedded did to make it work, as they want the Openmoko guys as a possible user base as well :-) Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates
yves mahe wrote: I need to do : opkg -force-overwrite install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume_0.0+svnr35693-r13_all.ipk After a reboot and even with export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia , I get no illume's keyboard nor tools icon in the upper left corner. After rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume as said by Rasterman [1], the tools icon (wrench) appears and is functional but always no illume's keyboard. [1]: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-September/028949.html Yves Mahé ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Duped Messages (was Re: Please split this list!)
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Since we're talking about the mailing lists, I still receive (randomly), three repeated mails, two repeated mails, etc... This mail from Vasco... I received it three times already! :) Rui On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 12:24:03PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you examine the email headers you can see that the 'received' header documenting where the mail server handling the list (sita.openmoko.org running exim 4.63) received the message from the sender's mailserver (IE, their ISP's mailserver) differs from one copy to the next - this means that either the sending server is failing to recognize that the message has been delivered and resends, possibly the receiving server is failing to send the acknowledgement of receipt at the end of the SMTP transaction (at least in a timely fashion), so the sending server automatically retries. Received: from relay1.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.21] helo=sapo.pt) by sita.openmoko.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Ka7yh-0002Ow-Ha for community@lists.openmoko.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:55:37 +0200 Received: from relay1.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.21] helo=sapo.pt) by sita.openmoko.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Ka7fK-0005dL-Pf for community@lists.openmoko.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:55:37 +0200 Received: from relay1.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.21] helo=sapo.pt) by sita.openmoko.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Ka7ZO-0003bU-8Q for community@lists.openmoko.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:55:21 +0200 Notice that the message ID differs between the three copies. This tells us that this is the point (when sapo.pt mailserver delivers to sita.openmoko.org mailserver) where the failure occurs. If it were the mailinglist server sending dupes, this header would be identical among all copies. Also, it doesn't depend on sending mailserver software, I've noted it happening with qmail as sender, exim, gmail.com, and others. (even mail.openmoko.org sometimes, such as Andy Green's reply to the '3G modem' thread) Based on past experience as admin of a cluster of mailservers that sometimes exceeded 1 million incoming SMTP connections per day, I suspect that either spam filtering or some testing for ML (IE, 'is this sender permitted to post?') takes place AFTER receiving the message but BEFORE telling the sending server that message was received, and is periodically taking longer than the sending server's SMTP timeout, so the sender gives up on the connection and tries again - meanwhile the exim server handling the ML eventually accepts the message. My suspicion is that the load on the (virtual?) server hosting the ML is getting to a level where processing messages sometimes takes longer than some sending servers are willing to wait. Properly, in such a situation, the sending server is supposed to resend, and the receiving server is supposed to discard the message it failed to fully receive before the connection was broken. Unfortunately my mailserver experience is with surgemail, qmail, sendmail, and some exchange (ick), but I've never worked with Exim, so I can't suggest anything specific to check in the server config. (When I've seen this caused by receiving mailserver it was most often qmail, and was caused by improperly configured/limited spawning that exceeded available RAM instead of deferring excess inbound connections - once dipping into swap, all bets are off regarding timely responses) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian and Zhone
I regulary upgrade my debian system every 1-2 days. In the last 2 days i got an update for zhone automatically installed which doesn't work anymore. upgraded yesterday and have no problems so far. When i use apt-cache show zhone i see version 0-git20080809-4 but no that the same version i get with dpkg -s zhone date from when this package really is. either have a look into /var/cache/apt/archives/ or into /var/lib/dpkg/info both give you the date of downoload/installation. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
Ok, my problem was, that i tried to suspend and resume without zhone running. After starting zhone and using the original kernel suspend and resume works without problems when pressing the power button. But isn't there a way to use suspend/resume with the power button without zhone? Because most time i don't run zhone at the moment and i don't know if i will in the future. Ciao, Rainer arne anka wrote: I already use the newest kernel with debian. 2008-08-31 21:29:43,869 ERROR Exception in handler for D-Bus signal: Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 214, in maybe_handle_message self._handler(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/bin/X11/zhone, line 1962, in cbEvent self.gsm_device_iface.PrepareForSuspend() File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. that's what zhone.log says, when i press pwr to send the fr into sleep with the buildhost kernel+modules from yesterday. Maybe i should try it with the default kernel instead. I have a little ... I would love to suspend my neo with a short press of the power button and resume it with another press. :) well, with the default (installation) kernel that works. i'm switching back right now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 update: Wrench doesn't appear even with illume-configinstalled
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:13 +0200 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the first update of 2008.8, I cannot get the wrench for configuring illume. I have installed illume-config, as the wiki said, but the wrench does not appear. I have searched and all articles say that installing illume-config is all that I have to do. I installed 080830 update, and got the same problem. Am I missing anything? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume (wipe your old one - if u had one) I did that, but wrench didn't appear even after rebooting :-( No offense intended, but are you looking for it in the right place? ;) By default (unless you've used illume-config itself to change it) it appears in the top-left corner only once the tray has been opened, is hidden normally. (this threw me at first, when I'd upgraded from 2007 and enabled it per the wiki) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Flashing Om2008.8 rootfs under Windows is *LONG*
Hello, I wanted to share my experience with FR and Windows Vista. I received my FR last Saturday. So far, so good, except that the device doesn't do much and the UI is quite buggy. After a day or so reading the Wiki, I finally managed to get my Vista system to recognize the FR both as an RNIS device and as a uboot device. I'd like to state that there is an awful lot of information in the Wiki but it is very hard to follow. It is quite difficult to understand which distribution needs what. I finally settled on 0m2008.8 because that's what I read first. If possible, I'd suggest to create a slimmed down web site for the newcomers with step by step advices. openmoko.org should be that web site, it shouldn't redirect automatically to the wiki as one may think that this is not the official web page. Going back to my upgrade, FYI, flashing rootfs lasted 2 hours! Is that normal? Or is it just because dfu_utils is slow under windows? Anyway, here is what I did: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/devel/OpenMoko $ dfu-util.exe -l dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=1, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/devel/OpenMoko $ dfu-util.exe -a kernel -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080826.uImage.bin dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Setting Configuration 1... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Resetting USB... Opening USB Device... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=2, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Setting Configuration 1... Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=37877 Starting download: [##] finished! state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present Done! Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/devel/OpenMoko $ dfu-util.exe -a rootfs -R -D ./Om2008.8-gta02-20080830.rootfs.jffs2 dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Setting Configuration 1... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Resetting USB... Opening USB Device... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=2, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Setting Configuration 1... Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=1431306 Starting download: [##] finished! state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present Done! Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode OK, time to reboot. 3 minutes later, it's rebooted! :-) I click settings, click Wifi, select my network and now I am lost on how to use this keyboard, no backspace, no number. I guess I have to go back to reading the wiki :-/ Maybe I should switch to qpe? Do I have to reflash the kernel for that? Well, that was just a first time user experience :-) Abdel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian and Zhone
Fox Mulder wrote: I regulary upgrade my debian system every 1-2 days. In the last 2 days i got an update for zhone automatically installed which doesn't work anymore. Now when i start zhone the zhone screen appears as normal window within xfce like before. When i didn't do anything the screen gets dimed and short after that locked which works fine like before. But as soon as i try to click one of the four main applications like dialer or sms zhone freeze. I have to kill the window and after a new start it's the same and the /tmp/zhone.log file is empty. When i use apt-cache show zhone i see version 0-git20080809-4 but no date from when this package really is. With the last version before this update it works normally the few times i started it. Is there anything known to make problems with this new version? Ok i found the problem. Maybe i should think a bit more about what i do. :) I deactivated GSM within the panel app and it seems that zhone doesn't really like this. I can also see messages in the log now. After reboot (don't know why zhone doesn't work just after reactivation of gsm) zhone works normal. I have no SIM card in my neo at the moment so i think the log messages like ERROR can't set antenna power and register and ERROR can't get auth status should be normal. And another thing is, if there are any alternatives for debian to use the phone functions with a bit more comfort like in 2008.9? Because zhone really isn't the kind of program which i wanted to use with my neo as daily phone, which is the state i want to reach in the near future. And dualboot between 2008.9 and debian isn't the best solution. Just the question about any alternatives for zhone is still in the room. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:14:20 +0200 yves mahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: yves mahe wrote: I need to do : opkg -force-overwrite install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume_0.0+svnr35693-r13_all.ipk After a reboot and even with export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia , I get no illume's keyboard nor tools icon in the upper left corner. After rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume as said by Rasterman [1], the tools icon (wrench) appears and is functional but always no illume's keyboard. check keyboard config in illumes' wrench :) [1]: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-September/028949.html Yves Mahé ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 update: Wrench doesn't appear even with illume-configinstalled
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:53:53 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:08:13 +0200 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the first update of 2008.8, I cannot get the wrench for configuring illume. I have installed illume-config, as the wiki said, but the wrench does not appear. I have searched and all articles say that installing illume-config is all that I have to do. I installed 080830 update, and got the same problem. Am I missing anything? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1863 rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume (wipe your old one - if u had one) I did that, but wrench didn't appear even after rebooting :-( someone else just did it and it works. (From: yves mahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: Re: illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: illume-config-illume on 2008.8-updates
yves mahe wrote: yves mahe wrote: I need to do : opkg -force-overwrite install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume_0.0+svnr35693-r13_all.ipk After a reboot and even with export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia , I get no illume's keyboard nor tools icon in the upper left corner. After rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume as said by Rasterman [1], the tools icon (wrench) appears and is functional but always no illume's keyboard. [1]: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-September/028949.html Yves Mahé I spoke too quickly : I did'nt see that illume-config has now a new option : Keyboard which default is None. Choosing Default activate the illume's keyboard. Thanks Raster To resume on 2008-8 update : 1. opkg install -force-overwrite install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all/illume-config-illume_0.0+svnr35693-r13_all.ipk 2. opkg install illume-config (get qwery button) 3. echo 'E_PROFILE=-profile illume' /etc/enlightenment/default_profile (switch to the illume profile from asu) 4. rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume 5. add export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia 6. Reboot It should work Yves Mahe ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do others have sound on Debian?
Am Sonntag 31 August 2008 22:22:27 schrieb Sven Bretfeld: Hello Since I got no answer to yesterdays question, I wonder if I'm the only one to have that problem. Do you others who run Debian on the Freerunner have sound? What have you done to get it working? Thanks for help Sven Have you checked the Debian and Manual Debian wiki pages and their discussions? I added a hint to status files there... -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
But isn't there a way to use suspend/resume with the power button without zhone? probably not -- that's because of the development staus of fso and the nature of zhone. zhone is an app to test all the features of fso -- if you look into zhone.log you'll see that even the pwr presshold is received and handled by zhone -- which makes sense for a test application. what's necessary is to split zhone in it's parts or rather take the interesting parts from zhone (dialer, sms, contacts, event handling) and create separate applications/daemons from it. i think shr was somehow supposed to do that (by porting applications to fso), but if they do, their work does not show up in the debian-fso repo so far. does anyone know a good intrduction into python, dbus and fso? i'd like to have a look into it every time i attempted to something else came up and diverted my attention ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freeze: Any other way than unplug the battery?
Hello, I am having a lot of freezes and the only solution so far has been to unplug the battery. Is there any other way I should be aware of? Abdel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 update: Wrench doesn't appear even withillume-configinstalled
No offense intended, but are you looking for it in the right place? ;) By default (unless you've used illume-config itself to change it) it appears in the top-left corner only once the tray has been opened, is hidden normally. (this threw me at first, when I'd upgraded from 2007 and enabled it per the wiki) j I have had openned the tray, and I have had tapped every pixel in the upper row, since nothing is shown. And it didn't work :( But of course I can't be offended by someone who is trying to help me :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian and Zhone
I deactivated GSM within the panel app and it seems that zhone doesn't really like this. I can also see messages in the log now. After reboot (don't know why zhone doesn't work just after reactivation of gsm) zhone works normal. did you restart zhone and/or fso-frameworkd? I have no SIM card in my neo at the moment so i think the log messages like ERROR can't set antenna power and register and ERROR can't get auth status should be normal. at least the antenna one i rememeber to have seen repeatedly -- with a sim. seems the request to set antenna pwr is made to early. but you should post that rather on the smartphones-standards list, that's where the fso guys lurk ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freeze: Any other way than unplug the battery?
I am having a lot of freezes and the only solution so far has been to unplug the battery. Is there any other way I should be aware of? you could try (if you didn't already) to hold pwr until the device reboots. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please split this list!
Thorben Krueger wrote: Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... Does not help. More choice does not bring more order. Especially if there is no system for order that reflects the need for communication. Subsystems are no system for bringing order, because you can not always bring your thoughts into this order. It's stupid, it is frustrating and borders and limitations are plainly not conducive to conversations. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 13:41, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know which one is better, but after a short test with apm -s i found out that the script in the suspend.d dir is not executed at suspend. :/ These scripts worked well for me (tested on trolltech's qtopia), but it failed when I first tried (oops partition table gone again...). = I guess that was because I had not set execution rights on the script files. After I did, it worked. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing Om2008.8 rootfs under Windows is *LONG*
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I wanted to share my experience with FR and Windows Vista. Well, that was just a first time user experience :-) Abdel. You haven't even tried backing it up. Try and see how long *that* takes. They say it is much, much better with the Linux port of DFU-util (or rather, something is very very wrong with the Windows port). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call
On 31 Aug 2008, at 12:46, Ole Kliemann wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 06:37:05AM +0100, Stroller wrote: As the son of Lancastrian blood, I can sympathise with parsimoniousness, but right now Ole's suggestion appears penny- pinching to me, rather than practical prudent economising. Are you by any chance associated with a VoIP company and afraid of people making no-connect/no-cost calls all the time? ;-) No, not at all. But I figured that since you're going to have to pay to fetch the data anyway, I couldn't see much saving with this drop-calling shenanigans. You appear to have proved me right with your subsequent calculations. What relevance does VoIP have here - if you run VoIP on your Freerunner you're going to have to pay data rates on that. Or are you thinking I'm a VoIP exec protesting against your use of a VoIP provider for making drop-calls? Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please split this list!
Am Montag 01 September 2008 16:12:42 schrieb Tilman Baumann: Thorben Krueger wrote: Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... Does not help. More choice does not bring more order. Especially if there is no system for order that reflects the need for communication. Subsystems are no system for bringing order, because you can not always bring your thoughts into this order. It's stupid, it is frustrating and borders and limitations are plainly not conducive to conversations. ... and most of us would subscribe to each of the lists anyway to stay informed... -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Please split this list!
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thorben Krueger wrote: Please consider splitting this mailinglist into sublists, i.e. each handling its own distribution... Does not help. More choice does not bring more order. Especially if there is no system for order that reflects the need for communication. Subsystems are no system for bringing order, because you can not always bring your thoughts into this order. It's stupid, it is frustrating and borders and limitations are plainly not conducive to conversations. Ask people to write the subject lines more clearly, not FR Problem cannot make a call where's the installer thingy etc. If they don't comply, harangue them so they fall in line or leave. Oops. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
VLC on Freerunner / OM2008.8
Hi, I think this has been asked before, but has anybody tried porting VLC [1] to the FR / OM200x? The VLC website [2] says there is a Zaurus port available for an older version with a different ARM processor, so it could be possible to have one for armv4t. The packages are .ipk. By the way, what sort of system requirements would it have? [1] http://www.videolan.org [2] http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-zaurus.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freeze: Any other way than unplug the battery?
Am Montag, 1. September 2008 schrieb arne anka: I am having a lot of freezes and the only solution so far has been to unplug the battery. Is there any other way I should be aware of? you could try (if you didn't already) to hold pwr until the device reboots. I have the same problem with the 2008.8 (update) version, on 2007.2 it worked to hold down the power button, but on 2008.8 it doesn't be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Email notification by VoIP. Was: Re: Om2008.8: execute script on incoming call
On 31 Aug 2008, at 11:56, Rod Whitby wrote: Stroller wrote: On 30 Aug 2008, at 05:34, Rod Whitby wrote: Please don't assume that everyone has unlimited data plans. Please don't assume probably won't prevent developers from doing so. Nothing can prevent open source developers from taking any world view they please. That's their right. That's why I'm educating them with the message that unlimited data plans are not available in all parts of the world. Your assertive tone here sounds like you're upset with me for questioning you. Please chill out. Nothing can prevent open source developers from taking any world view they please - that's why I ASKED YOU to educate them. Your previous message wasn't educational because it just said please don't assume without providing any depthful understanding of your problems. How much does data transfer cost there? (comparison of data cost relative to calls?) 1c per Kb. Calls are about 30c/min. A quick summary stating checking email every day would add $XX to my current $YY monthly phonebill might make your education more memorable. Why is the situation unlikely to change in the foreseeable? There are no market forces that will make it change, as Australia is a large country with a relatively sparse population (2.6 people per square kilometer). I'm surprised that makes any difference. I'd have thought the majority of data users were in the cities. A telco could provide GPRS / 3G data only in metropolitan areas or apply their unlimited data plans only in those areas. At the end of the day unlimited data has only become available in other countries because it's in Telco X's interest to induce customers away from Telco Y. Even restricting unlimited data to metropolitan areas one would sway a profitable percentage of customers. Once you have the infrastructure in place I understood the cost of shifting data to be relatively low. I appreciate that this my not scale for very long data lines, but once you've built cell towers in rural areas you have to supply them with bandwidth for voice. I expect the IMAP client on my openmoko phone to be able to download all my email for offline reading, deleting, and replying on the bus with *no* internet connectivity, and then sync all those changes seamlessly to the server as soon as I get the next internet connection. I expect that, too. Certainly under my data plan this would be essential for foreign holidays. It's good that our needs are identical then. Ability to do stuff when connected, and ability to do stuff when not connected as well. As opposed to an assumption that someone is always connected. Our needs aren't identical because I can enable checking every 5 minutes when at home and disable it when on holiday. On holiday I can check once per day or just manage without email on my phone - I can survive with an internet cafe for a couple of weeks per year. In fact I have been known to leave my phone at home when on holiday, for various reasons - for 2 weeks per year I can manage without. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freeze: Any other way than unplug the battery?
I am having a lot of freezes and the only solution so far has been to unplug the battery. Is there any other way I should be aware of? you could try (if you didn't already) to hold pwr until the device reboots. That has never worked for me. I am afraid to harm the battery or the phone plugging and unplugging the battery so many times. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
