Re: OpenMoko ATT plans (Semi OT)
On Wednesday 27 August 2008 09:15:24 pm Rodney Myers wrote: I'm anxiously waiting for my phone (Thanks NYC), and for my contract with verizon to finally expire next month. When I switch to ATT, only GSM provider that has decent coverage in my area, I was wondering what plans this groups uses, to get the most out of the phone? Basic phone service, SMS/text messages, and I like the GPS feature. GPS does not require a SIM; in fact, only the phone features do. I'm using mine as a PDA without a SIM at the moment. Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building and testing asu with MokoMakeFile and qemu
I rebuilded all from scratch and now i found uImage-2.6.24., so make flash-qemu-local run successfull, howewer when i finally run make run-qemu, u-boot loads the kernel and returns to it's main menu. I'm not expert on u-boot, howewer i added -serial stdio to qemu, it gives: U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (Sep 4 2008 - 17:27:20) I2C: ready DRAM: 128 MB NAND: 64 MiB Found Environment offset in OOB.. Video: 640x480x8 31kHz 59Hz NAND read: device 0 offset 0x244000, size 0x5000 Reading data from 0x248e00 -- 100% complete. 20480 bytes read: OK USB: S3C2410 USB Deviced In:serial Out: serial Err: serial neo_lcd_rst_switch: LCD reset. jbt6k74_command: Display on. neo_vib_switch: Buzz, buzz. neo_vib_switch: Vibrator stopped. neo_bl_switch: LCD Backlight now on. GTA01Bv4 # boot ## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 3010 ... Image Name: Openmoko/2.6.24+git1+a1e97c61125 Created: 2008-09-04 13:37:58 UTC Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed) Data Size:1894664 Bytes = 1.8 MB Load Address: 30008000 Entry Point: 30008000 Verifying Checksum ... OK Loading Kernel Image ... OK OK ERROR: image overwritten - must RESET the board to recover. neo_gsm_switch: GSM disabled. wath can i do now? Nicola On 9/3/08, Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working an ubuntu hh to build and test asu. I downloaded http://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/mokomakefile/trunk/Makefile changed OM_GIT_BRANCH in org.openmoko.asu.stable after that i did make setup, make setup-machine-neo and make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image. The image was build successfull after several hours, but when i try to do make flash-qemu-local i get an error saying that is not possible to ls files in build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/uImage-2.6.*-om-gta01.bin What do i miss? thanks Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTopia full screen handwriting on OM2008?
On Monday September 1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, According to Trolltech's documentation ( http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/inputmethods-description.html), QTopia supports handwriting recognition. Is there some way to get handwriting recognition to work on the OM 2008 distribution? I don't want to start a discussion about the pros and cons of virtual keyboards, but I've been happy with the 'handwriting' recognition on my Sony Ericsson P910i, and just not having a keyboard covering half the screen would be nice. I'm working on it whether I'll ever finish is uncertain though :-) What I currently have is a little scribble pad application with handwriting recognition built in, so if you tap somewhere you can start drawing letters and digits and they are added to the scribble pad page as text. git://neil.brown.name/scribble/ This is largely just to test and experiment with handwriting recognition. I'm in the process of re-writing the recognition code so that it (hopefully) makes fewer mistakes. It currently gets confused between l (drawn like L) and e, has trouble recognising 8 and v, and various other little issues. But I find it usable. Then I'll put the recogniser into a program that grabs all touchscreen events and feeds them back as either key strokes or stylus events. My initial plan is that: - a tap goes straight through as a mouse click - a stroke is interpreted as a written symbol - a tap-and-drag (like you can do in a notebook's touchpad) becomes mouse movement - a vertical stroke in the right 1/3 of the screen becomes a scroll-wheel event. I don't know how the tap-and-drag will feel - it might be too frustrating. Eventually (if I get that far) I'd like to have a little widget in the illume status bar to allow selection of abc/123/stroke. But that will be much later. NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cpoying image to internal flash
On Sunday 31 August 2008 08:54:47 am William Kenworthy wrote: I am trying out 2008.9 and am impressed that its almost usable. Before I put too much effort into configuring the image I have on the SD card, is it possible to move an SD card image to the phone itself? You may be able to adapt the technique I used for moving Debian from the uSD card into flash: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner/MovingToFlash Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.8/testing] where is pand?
This is now being discussed in the support list. pand has been removed, dbus support is in place. Vasco Névoa wrote: Am I the only one to find that pand (the Personal Area Network daemon) is missing and that it is no longer possible to establish a bluetooth network connection with OM2008.8?... Vasco Névoa wrote: Up-to-date 2008.8/update with testing feeds here. I can't find the pand to establish a bluetooth network connection. Can anyone tell me which package installs it? Thx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.3.3
Paul Buede wrote: if I notice anything wierd there I will report back. Anyone tried bluetooth headset with this new version to see if the files that were not there in 4.3.2 are there now? I can try tomorrow if nobody else has yet. You can pair with a bluetooth headset, but no one has managed to get the audio to work, on any of the distributions. The solution (if there is one) will be the same I suspect for all the dists, including Qtopia. Check out the bluetooth related wiki entries for what has been done so far. -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any experiences with power hungry USB devices?
On Friday 29 August 2008 11:17:20 pm Michael Shiloh wrote: I'm working on documenting various aspects of our USB port. We believe that the FreeRunner USB port should be capable of delivering the standard USB high current of 500mA. We also believe that we respond properly to USB negotiation of this current, up from the minimum of 100mA. I suddenly remembered that someone posted about using a USB keyboard that didn't work due to high current. However, the FreeRunner should be able to provide exactly as much current as a desktop PC, which I assume works with this keyboard. I have a USB keyboard (EMPREX 5139U) which, with the 2007.2 (I think), the LEDs would not light up, but I could use it on the console (and not in X, but due to other things). It works fine with my PC, and with the FR now that I'm running Debian (though it doesn't keep the FR from dimming the screen). Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM_GIT_BRANCH for Om2008.8-update
On Thursday 04 September 2008, Holger Freyther wrote: org.openmoko.asu.stable. The PR differs from .dev to .stable... this also applies to dropbear. We set DISTRO_TYPE to release in that branch and then had to go back to debug and we had to bump the PR for that. Thanks! Meanwhile I found out that the reason for my problem (qtopia not loading the recompiled addressboot) was in fact the bug I reported here: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1959 Thanks for clearing up the sitation with the git branch! Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Enter PIN again...NOT!
Om2008.8 How do I get the Enter PIN code dialog window to reappear. If I by accident hit Cancel the dialog is gone and doesn't reappear. Only if I reboot that is! Regards Kent Knudsen -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Enter-PIN-again...NOT%21-tp840068p840068.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko ATT plans (Semi OT)
On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Eli wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2008 09:15:24 pm Rodney Myers wrote: I'm anxiously waiting for my phone (Thanks NYC), and for my contract with verizon to finally expire next month. When I switch to ATT, only GSM provider that has decent coverage in my area, I was wondering what plans this groups uses, to get the most out of the phone? Basic phone service, SMS/text messages, and I like the GPS feature. GPS does not require a SIM; in fact, only the phone features do. I'm using mine as a PDA without a SIM at the moment. How does the gps show the maps? For some reason, I thought that some form of data plan was required. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Great Experience
Hello Everyone, I'm happy to say I just received my Freerunner in the mail! I popped my SIM card in, and it instantly registered to my ATT network. Full bars. Clean calls (no echos) and SMS messaging works great! This was with the software out of the box. We will see how things are working when I'm done flashing the new images! Great Job Guys! -Scott -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Great-Experience-tp840078p840078.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia 3.33 Volume Too Low
Just flashed the newest qtopia to a 1gb sd card... any ideas as to why the volume is super low, no matter what I set it to in the control panel? thanks -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Qtopia-3.33-Volume-Too-Low-tp840634p840634.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 3.33 Volume Too Low
sorry, it seems a fix was here all along:
http://n2.nabble.com/qtopia-update-tp832851p835065.html
--
I was able to fix this by tweaking the 'Speaker Playback Volume' in
/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state. Updated this value to 127
(was set to 100) and the volume is back to normal for me.
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
value.0 127
value.1 127
}
--Andrew
-
thanks!
yochaigal wrote:
Just flashed the newest qtopia to a 1gb sd card... any ideas as to why the
volume is super low, no matter what I set it to in the control panel?
thanks
--
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Re: OpenMoko ATT plans (Semi OT)
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Rodney Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Eli wrote: GPS does not require a SIM; in fact, only the phone features do. I'm using mine as a PDA without a SIM at the moment. How does the gps show the maps? For some reason, I thought that some form of data plan was required. You can pre-download them at home, and use them on the road... tangoGPS has this option built-in, and the Installer can download map packs for Locations. HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enter PIN again...NOT!
forestmountain wrote: Om2008.8 How do I get the Enter PIN code dialog window to reappear. If I by accident hit Cancel the dialog is gone and doesn't reappear. Only if I reboot that is! Regards Kent Knudsen You need to restart X. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Enter-PIN-again...NOT%21-tp840068p840671.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?
Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 'Synchronization' app in Qtopia 4 uses 'Sync Agent' to sync with Microsoft Outlook. It is not compatible with Qtopia Desktop from Qtopia 2. Does it work on Linux? (crossover + Microsoft Outlook 2003) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb mass media storage
Petr Vanek wrote: I have spent a while googling this up and have no wiki skills but someone might find this useful: to make FR act as a memory stick, here is what my script does: #!/bin/sh /etc/init.d/networking stop rmmod g_ether modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz very cool, but before I test it out (potentially breaking my usb networking in the process), I have a couple of questions: 1. will this persist over a reboot, or will it revert back to being an ethernet gadget when I reboot? 2. is the following sufficient to switch it back? #!/bin/sh rmmod g_file_storage modprobe g_ether ifup usb0 (assuming I replaced '/etc/init.d/networking stop' with 'ifdown usb0' as recommended by Daniel) 3. can somebody point me to a resource for the g_file_storage module where I can learn more about it? I did a couple of quick googles but didn't see anything promising. specifically I'd like to know more about the file parameter - I assume that in this scenario our usb stick is using partition/device information from /dev/mmcblk0p1, and will be partitioned in the same way as the SD card? what If I wanted to have my home directory accessible in usb stick mode? Thanks, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 3.33 Volume Too Low
I assume you mean Qtopia 4.3.3...
However I've had the same problem. With the Speaker Playback Volume at
100 (that's default, and 79% of maximum) the volume is incredibly low,
low as in the person you're speaking to is indiscernible unless you're
in a perfectly quiet room and listening very carefully.
After setting the Speaker Playback Volume to 127 (100% of maximum) the
volume is acceptable for a quiet room but would be insufficient for even
a moderately noisy environment. The legendary buzz also increases to a
level just as loud as the voice itself. 2 questions:
1) Why is the default volume so god-awful low on Qtopia? And why, even
on maximum (although I realise the theoretical maximum might hinge on a
number of settings), is it still so low?
2) Is there *any* way to get rid of the GSM buzz permanently? I have
seen the whole 'PIN 4' explanation on the wiki, however basically what
that's saying is that it's a hardware fault which is unlikely to have a
viable resolution. I am at the point now where I would seriously
consider removing the audio jack completely if I knew it would get rid
of the buzz. Would this work?
Aaron
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 00:16 -0700, yochaigal wrote:
sorry, it seems a fix was here all along:
http://n2.nabble.com/qtopia-update-tp832851p835065.html
--
I was able to fix this by tweaking the 'Speaker Playback Volume' in
/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state. Updated this value to 127
(was set to 100) and the volume is back to normal for me.
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
value.0 127
value.1 127
}
--Andrew
-
thanks!
yochaigal wrote:
Just flashed the newest qtopia to a 1gb sd card... any ideas as to why the
volume is super low, no matter what I set it to in the control panel?
thanks
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Re: Enter PIN again...NOT!
Christoph wrote: forestmountain wrote: Om2008.8 How do I get the Enter PIN code dialog window to reappear. If I by accident hit Cancel the dialog is gone and doesn't reappear. Only if I reboot that is! Regards Kent Knudsen You need to restart X. Restarting X works! Hope we see a everyday solution. Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Enter-PIN-again...NOT%21-tp840068p840783.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb mass media storage
1. This only works until reboot or manually reverting it. 2. Don't know, maybe. :) 3. /dev/mmcblk0p1 is the first partition on the sd card. So the usb stick will only show this one partition and nothing more. Ciao, Rainer Dale Maggee wrote: Petr Vanek wrote: I have spent a while googling this up and have no wiki skills but someone might find this useful: to make FR act as a memory stick, here is what my script does: #!/bin/sh /etc/init.d/networking stop rmmod g_ether modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz very cool, but before I test it out (potentially breaking my usb networking in the process), I have a couple of questions: 1. will this persist over a reboot, or will it revert back to being an ethernet gadget when I reboot? 2. is the following sufficient to switch it back? #!/bin/sh rmmod g_file_storage modprobe g_ether ifup usb0 (assuming I replaced '/etc/init.d/networking stop' with 'ifdown usb0' as recommended by Daniel) 3. can somebody point me to a resource for the g_file_storage module where I can learn more about it? I did a couple of quick googles but didn't see anything promising. specifically I'd like to know more about the file parameter - I assume that in this scenario our usb stick is using partition/device information from /dev/mmcblk0p1, and will be partitioned in the same way as the SD card? what If I wanted to have my home directory accessible in usb stick mode? Thanks, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia-Phone-X11 on 2007.2?
Hi, I'm using 2007.2. When I do 'opkg list | grep qtopia' I see a whole lot of packages, including 'qtopia-phone-x11' and 'qtopia-phone-x11-bluetooth ' - will installing these break things? - If not, This would mean I have more than one dialer installed, which one will be the default? how might I change this? Thanks, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb mass media storage
Petr Vanek wrote: I have spent a while googling this up and have no wiki skills but someone might find this useful: to make FR act as a memory stick, here is what my script does: #!/bin/sh /etc/init.d/networking stop rmmod g_ether modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz very cool, but before I test it out (potentially breaking my usb networking in the process), I have a couple of questions: 1. will this persist over a reboot, or will it revert back to being an ethernet gadget when I reboot? 2. is the following sufficient to switch it back? #!/bin/sh rmmod g_file_storage modprobe g_ether ifup usb0 (assuming I replaced '/etc/init.d/networking stop' with 'ifdown usb0' as recommended by Daniel) 3. can somebody point me to a resource for the g_file_storage module where I can learn more about it? I did a couple of quick googles but didn't see anything promising. specifically I'd like to know more about the file parameter - I assume that in this scenario our usb stick is using partition/device information from /dev/mmcblk0p1, and will be partitioned in the same way as the SD card? what If I wanted to have my home directory accessible in usb stick mode? Thanks, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb mass media storage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin there is no must for using /dev/mmc* .. you could also use a plain file: preparations: create mem_stick.fs file dd if=/dev/zero of=mem_stick.fs bs=512 count=1048576 # for a 512mb memory-stick with blocksize=512 bytes create filesystem on mem_stick.fs: mkfs.ext3 mem_stick.fs from FR you can mount this filesystem with: mount -o loop mem_stick.fs some_mount_point and for exporting via usb: rmmod g_ether # if mount - umount! modprobe g_file_storage file=mem_stick.fs regards, morlac Am 05.09.2008 um 13:04 schrieb pHilipp Zabel: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petr Vanek wrote: I have spent a while googling this up and have no wiki skills but someone might find this useful: to make FR act as a memory stick, here is what my script does: #!/bin/sh /etc/init.d/networking stop rmmod g_ether modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz very cool, but before I test it out (potentially breaking my usb networking in the process), I have a couple of questions: 1. will this persist over a reboot, or will it revert back to being an ethernet gadget when I reboot? It's not persistent unless you add something like this to the init scripts. After rebooting the ethernet gadget will be back. 2. is the following sufficient to switch it back? #!/bin/sh rmmod g_file_storage modprobe g_ether ifup usb0 (assuming I replaced '/etc/init.d/networking stop' with 'ifdown usb0' as recommended by Daniel) 3. can somebody point me to a resource for the g_file_storage module where I can learn more about it? I did a couple of quick googles but didn't see anything promising. specifically I'd like to know more about the file parameter - I assume that in this scenario our usb stick is using partition/device information from /dev/mmcblk0p1, and will be partitioned in the same way as the SD card? what If I wanted to have my home directory accessible in usb stick mode? I suggest to read the comment in the source code, it's quite detailed: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/ linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/usb/gadget/file_storage.c;hb=HEAD The file parameter determines the raw backing store for the storage device, so if you have file=/dev/mmcblk0p1, its contents will directly appear as /dev/sdx on the host. As mmcblk0p1 doesn't contain a partition table, so won't sdx. If you want to export the whole device, use file=/dev/mmcblk0, you'll get the partition table in /dev/sdx and the kernel will parse it and create /dev/sdx1 (containing the contents of /dev/mmcblk0p1) etc. The host has direct access to the block device, so it is important that /dev/mmcblk0p1 is not mounted on both the phone and the host at the same time (unless it's mounted ro on both). regards Philipp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIwStgr81gVylJyzERAmHbAJwLiBalMaLkhe3p4//QQkgBs7PLfgCeOfMR lsdWNYAG4g3mTT0Mo2KEyek= =Vdg5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg update failed
Hi, On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Giovanni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried opkg update, but I got: Collected errors: * Failed to download [Everything] What is wrong? Can you check if pinging buildhost.openmoko.org succeeds? Are you sure that your /etc/resolv.conf is correclty filled in? HTH! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg update failed
Giovanni wrote: I just tried opkg update, but I got: Collected errors: * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/fic-gta02/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/fic-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/neo1973/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/neo1973/Packages.sig, error 404 * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/Packages.gz, error 404 * Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/Packages.sig, error 404 What is wrong? It certainly isn't you! Since my mail reader happily converted those to clickable URIs I tested them with Firefox and they don't work there either. I tried http://buildhost.openmoko.org/ http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/Packages.sig and got *http downloads directly from buildhost.openmoko.org are disabled* please see this mail http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/027997.html for details. repositories and images are all on http://downloads.openmoko.org/ now. you will be automatically forwarded there in 15 seconds. What distribution are you using? -- Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia-Phone-X11 on 2007.2?
Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 05 September 2008, Dale Maggee wrote: Hi, I'm using 2007.2. When I do 'opkg list | grep qtopia' I see a whole lot of packages, including 'qtopia-phone-x11' and 'qtopia-phone-x11-bluetooth ' - will installing these break things? Probably. You will have 2 daemons competing for the GSM serial port, so neither is likely to work correctly. 2007.2 uses gsmd to mediate connections to GSM while Qtopia has its own daemon to do the same thing. If you uninstall gsmd and anything that depends on it before installing the qtopia bits then it may work Thanks for the info, I'll do a backup before any experimenting ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb mass media storage
Christian Adams wrote: moinmoin there is no must for using /dev/mmc* .. you could also use a plain file: preparations: create mem_stick.fs file dd if=/dev/zero of=mem_stick.fs bs=512 count=1048576 # for a 512mb memory-stick with blocksize=512 bytes create filesystem on mem_stick.fs: mkfs.ext3 mem_stick.fs from FR you can mount this filesystem with: mount -o loop mem_stick.fs some_mount_point and for exporting via usb: rmmod g_ether # if mount - umount! modprobe g_file_storage file=mem_stick.fs regards, morlac On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petr Vanek wrote: I have spent a while googling this up and have no wiki skills but someone might find this useful: to make FR act as a memory stick, here is what my script does: #!/bin/sh /etc/init.d/networking stop rmmod g_ether modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz very cool, but before I test it out (potentially breaking my usb networking in the process), I have a couple of questions: 1. will this persist over a reboot, or will it revert back to being an ethernet gadget when I reboot? It's not persistent unless you add something like this to the init scripts. After rebooting the ethernet gadget will be back. 2. is the following sufficient to switch it back? #!/bin/sh rmmod g_file_storage modprobe g_ether ifup usb0 (assuming I replaced '/etc/init.d/networking stop' with 'ifdown usb0' as recommended by Daniel) 3. can somebody point me to a resource for the g_file_storage module where I can learn more about it? I did a couple of quick googles but didn't see anything promising. specifically I'd like to know more about the file parameter - I assume that in this scenario our usb stick is using partition/device information from /dev/mmcblk0p1, and will be partitioned in the same way as the SD card? what If I wanted to have my home directory accessible in usb stick mode? I suggest to read the comment in the source code, it's quite detailed: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/ linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/usb/gadget/file_storage.c;hb=HEAD The file parameter determines the raw backing store for the storage device, so if you have file=/dev/mmcblk0p1, its contents will directly appear as /dev/sdx on the host. As mmcblk0p1 doesn't contain a partition table, so won't sdx. If you want to export the whole device, use file=/dev/mmcblk0, you'll get the partition table in /dev/sdx and the kernel will parse it and create /dev/sdx1 (containing the contents of /dev/mmcblk0p1) etc. The host has direct access to the block device, so it is important that /dev/mmcblk0p1 is not mounted on both the phone and the host at the same time (unless it's mounted ro on both). regards Philipp Thanks for the info! very usefull indeed! I made a script as follows (echo's are for debugging): #!/bin/sh echo ifdown usb0... ifdown usb0 echo rmmod g_ether... rmmod g_ether echo umount /media/card... umount /media/card echo modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1... modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 only problem is, when i run this in the 2007.2 terminal, it echoes 'umount /media/card', and then totally freezes the freerunner! (to the point ofhaving to unplug the battery and reboot) if i comment out the offending line in the script, then type 'umount /media/card', then run the script, it works fine... thoughts? Thanks, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
tis 2008-09-02 klockan 20:48 +0100 skrev David Pottage: Fredrik Wendt wrote: Hi. Just wanted to know if I'd damage the hardware by doing: 0. Connect FR to computer using USB cable. 1. Turn on FR (FSO-testing), fire up zhone. 2. Open FR, remove battery, open SIM pocket, change SIM card, replace battery, replace back cover - all while the FR is running off power from USB [...] There is a risk that you will damage the SIM card doing that[...] Thanks for letting me know! The important thing for me is juts to make sure that the FreeRunner won't get damaged, since the SIM cards I currently use are only pre-paid ones, used only for testing. / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb mass media storage
try to put your echo strings in quotes: echo -n ifdown usb0... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg update failed
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Giovanni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the ping is working: Like other people said, what distribution are you using? I would guess that replacing the build host would work, but I'm not sure (because it depends on your distro) why it's set up that way. Christ van Willegen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:48 PM, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the Freerunner, it would be best if you powered down the GSM module before you remove the SIM card. Perhaps in future we can add an applet to do that. I've had trouble resuming when I turned off my GSM module, so be careful! See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1857 Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Hi, Am Freitag, den 05.09.2008, 12:30 +0200 schrieb Paul-Valentin Borza: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 04.09.2008, 17:31 +0200 schrieb Joachim Breitner: I was about to package accelgel for Debian. I exported the latest svn, tried to generate a clean source tarball with $ autogen.sh make dist and tried to use the resulting .tar.gz to build the package. Unfortunately, it seems that the generated tarball is not complete, for example it misses ./accelneo/include/accelneo.h Would you do me a favour and provide an official source tarball of your release, preferably one created by make dist? Then I'll continue with packaging it. It's pretty strange that you gen a missing accelneo.h as the file is on SVN. The latest version is on SVN. Do you still have problems with missing accelneo.h? Sorry for not being clear: I did not try to compile directly from the svn checkout. Instead, I have built a release tarball with make dist, but this tarball does not work because it is missing some files, e.g. accelneo.h. There is a way to tell automake what files to include in a release tarball, but I don’t know a lot about automake yet. Having a working make dist is not really critical, but it’s a sign of good automake packaging, and it allows you to easily create release tarballs. Also, make distcheck is useful. See http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/manual/automake/Dist.html if you are interestd in that. BTW, what are you plans now that GSOC is over? Are you continuing the development of accelges? Glad you're asking. I'm definitely thinking on continuing this project, and as you said I'm thinking in turning it to a proper program. That's why I've bought accelsense.org, exactly for this purpose. Once I have everything set up on accelsense.org, I'll move the code there on git. And maybe other members would like to contribute. I'll add your items from the above list to the TO-DO list. Just that right now I don't have time to work on it, at least not this month. I'm also doing an internship in Slovenia that's why I'm that busy. Glad to hear that. May I suggest that you set up the git repository earlyier, so that people can start hacking on their branches until you have time to conitnue development? Thanks, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Timeline / Journal
If anyone is looking for a project... I was toying with the idea of taking various events such as call logs, sms, gps, wifi, bluetooth, etc and storing them in a journal and posting them to a website every so often, when net access is available. The website would display them using the Simile Timeline [1] component, which I see has moved to Google code [2]. Numerous examples are available [3] It occurred to me that this format would suit touch screen well. Kinetic scrolling, tap for action; read sms, return a missed call, view calendar event. I don't have the talent to implement this on the phone, but it would be a neat app, and one I'm not aware exists on any phone. yet. If anyone is interested, pick up and run with it please. ~ Matt [1] http://simile.mit.edu/timeline/ [2] http://code.google.com/p/simile-widgets/wiki/Timeline [3] http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/Category:Example_timeline ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb mass media storage
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 01:04:52PM +0200, pHilipp Zabel wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petr Vanek wrote: I have spent a while googling this up and have no wiki skills but someone might find this useful: to make FR act as a memory stick, here is what my script does: #!/bin/sh /etc/init.d/networking stop rmmod g_ether modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz very cool, but before I test it out (potentially breaking my usb networking in the process), I have a couple of questions: 1. will this persist over a reboot, or will it revert back to being an ethernet gadget when I reboot? It's not persistent unless you add something like this to the init scripts. After rebooting the ethernet gadget will be back. 2. is the following sufficient to switch it back? #!/bin/sh rmmod g_file_storage modprobe g_ether ifup usb0 (assuming I replaced '/etc/init.d/networking stop' with 'ifdown usb0' as recommended by Daniel) 3. can somebody point me to a resource for the g_file_storage module where I can learn more about it? I did a couple of quick googles but didn't see anything promising. specifically I'd like to know more about the file parameter - I assume that in this scenario our usb stick is using partition/device information from /dev/mmcblk0p1, and will be partitioned in the same way as the SD card? what If I wanted to have my home directory accessible in usb stick mode? I suggest to read the comment in the source code, it's quite detailed: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/usb/gadget/file_storage.c;hb=HEAD The file parameter determines the raw backing store for the storage device, so if you have file=/dev/mmcblk0p1, its contents will directly appear as /dev/sdx on the host. As mmcblk0p1 doesn't contain a partition table, so won't sdx. If you want to export the whole device, use file=/dev/mmcblk0, you'll get the partition table in /dev/sdx and the kernel will parse it and create /dev/sdx1 (containing the contents of /dev/mmcblk0p1) etc. The host has direct access to the block device, so it is important that /dev/mmcblk0p1 is not mounted on both the phone and the host at the same time (unless it's mounted ro on both). What if it was mounted ro on the phone side and rw on the host side? Would that cause problems? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg update failed
[kind of offtopic] I just started to use qtopia on my new FR: Where do I have to look for feed to use with opkg? Is there an overview somewhere in the OM-wiki? Best regards, Chris 2008/9/5 Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Giovanni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the ping is working: Like other people said, what distribution are you using? I would guess that replacing the build host would work, but I'm not sure (because it depends on your distro) why it's set up that way. Christ van Willegen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg update failed
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Giovanni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the ping is working: Like other people said, what distribution are you using? I am using 2007.02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg update failed
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Giovanni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like other people said, what distribution are you using? I am using 2007.02 I guess you should change them 'manually', then, but it still seems weird that this wasn't updated... Was this the first time you used opkg update/opkg upgrade? Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.8][testing][kernel] image and modules not in sync?
I've followed the discussion about dual booting, kernel packaging, and kernel vs. distros, and the conclusion I reach is that the devs are inclined to use (mostly-)monolithic kernels, leaving just the extras out in the sysfs modules dir. This is fine by me, but there seems to be a little mess here. There are modules in the file system that are not loadable because they are already built in. This is not a good thing, because it induces the user in error - I thought there was something wrong with the kernel or with the modules, when the problem is just a question of cleaning up the repository filesystem images. If the modules are built-in, they should not be present in the filesystem, IMHO. If a user follows the wiki howtos about networking, she may be trying to modprobe bnep for example, and scratching her head because bluetooth and l2cap won't load (let alone bnep). Only after grepping /proc/kallsyms I understood these modules where already built-in. duh! total time loss. So please clean up a little, ok? At least the fs images on the downloads server should be consistent with the given kernel. If an update breaks things, that another issue entirely. Thank you! Keep up the good work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?
Lorn, Could you perhaps point us in the direction of this program? I haven't been able to find it myself, and I worry it's one of those Trolltech secrets :) On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 07:39 +, dorje wrote: Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 'Synchronization' app in Qtopia 4 uses 'Sync Agent' to sync with Microsoft Outlook. It is not compatible with Qtopia Desktop from Qtopia 2. Does it work on Linux? (crossover + Microsoft Outlook 2003) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg update failed
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Giovanni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like other people said, what distribution are you using? I am using 2007.02 I guess you should change them 'manually', then, but it still seems weird that this wasn't updated... Was this the first time you used opkg update/opkg upgrade? No, it wasn't the first time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 16:30, Kieran Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lorn, Could you perhaps point us in the direction of this program? I haven't been able to find it myself, and I worry it's one of those Trolltech secrets :) I think it is a commercial plugin for Outlook (must search on Trolltech site...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/8/25 Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In Sweden we have three GSM network operators (those with licenses to actually put GSM equipment to use) and having to wait 3-4 minutes after each SIM change really kills productivity and flow ... Would it be reasonable for future Openmoko phones to accept multiple SIM cards? I don't know if three is pushing it, but two certainly sounds reasonable. The expectation would be that the user could receive calls from both lines at the same time. When making calls, SMSing, or browsing 3G one could either specify which network to use or have a default set. Individual contacts could even have an override option to the default to always use a particular network. I'd also *love* to see a phone with two SIM slots - I can see the interface now, when you dial a number, it prompts you with dial as: number 1 number 2. I also like the Idea of having certain contacts set to automatically dial using a specified sim. There are a couple of interesting possibilities for the openmoko to be able to do something like this using only one sim slot: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist#Soft_Sim_Cloning http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist#Bluetooth_powered_Multi-SIM_support -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb mass media storage
arne anka wrote: try to put your echo strings in quotes: echo -n ifdown usb0... did that, no luck. this time is froze after echoing ifdown usb0... ...? -D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Building FSO Wiki page
Hello all, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO#Create_local_configuration Looking at that just confuses, me I'm afraid. I looked to see was there a wiki mailing list as I thought that was going to be set up. No such list so I'll post here, hope somebody can shed some light. The paragraph tells you what you should not do, but not really what you should do. Should I: cd /stuff/ mkdir build mkdir build/conf touch build/conf/local.conf Then edit that local.conf file and pull stuff from org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample into my local.conf? Sorry but want to build FSO and flash it into my FR and do some work. If I can make the wiki clearer in the process then well and good. Perhaps it's just me that gets confused ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building FSO Wiki page
John Whitmore wrote: Hello all, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO#Create_local_configuration Looking at that just confuses, me I'm afraid. I looked to see was there a wiki mailing list as I thought that was going to be set up. No such list so I'll post here, hope somebody can shed some light. The paragraph tells you what you should not do, but not really what you should do. Should I: cd /stuff/ mkdir build mkdir build/conf touch build/conf/local.conf Then edit that local.conf file and pull stuff from org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample into my local.conf? Sorry but want to build FSO and flash it into my FR and do some work. If I can make the wiki clearer in the process then well and good. Perhaps it's just me that gets confused ;-) Do you need to build it? you can download an image for milestone 2 from http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/ Apparently milestone 3 will be out in a day or two... HTH, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building FSO Wiki page
Am Friday 05 September 2008 17:43:09 schrieb John Whitmore: Hello all, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO#Create_local_configuration Looking at that just confuses, me I'm afraid. I looked to see was there a wiki mailing list as I thought that was going to be set up. No such list so I'll post here, hope somebody can shed some light. The paragraph tells you what you should not do, but not really what you should do. Should I: cd /stuff/ mkdir build mkdir build/conf touch build/conf/local.conf Then edit that local.conf file and pull stuff from org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample into my local.conf? Sorry but want to build FSO and flash it into my FR and do some work. If I can make the wiki clearer in the process then well and good. Perhaps it's just me that gets confused ;-) What exactly makes you confused? Please reread the following excerpts from the section you referenced: It is actually recommended to start smaller and keep local.conf.sample in the background and add entries from there step-by-step as you understand and need them. [...] For building a .dev branch, in your local.conf file, you should have at least the following three entries. Example for the Angstrom distribution and the Openmoko gta01 machine: BBFILES = /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb DISTRO = angstrom-2008.1 MACHINE = om-gta01 -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 potentially solved
Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It should print something like '/dev/pts/2'. Now use 'minicom -s' and set the device under 'serial device' to the value printed by dbus-send. Wait for a response to the AT initiation sequence and then type in: AT%N0187 The modem should respond with a message that AEC and Noise reduction is now on. Wouldn't $ cli-framework gsm.DebugCommand(at%n0187\r\n) be much easier solution than trying to use minicom? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 16:30, Kieran Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lorn, Could you perhaps point us in the direction of this program? I haven't been able to find it myself, and I worry it's one of those Trolltech secrets :) I think it is a commercial plugin for Outlook (must search on Trolltech site...) I would pay a reasonable amount :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sound problems under Debian
Sven Bretfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. There seems to be no sound at all. 'aplay file.wav' just pretends to play but neither gives any output nor returns the cursor. aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav plays here. I used alsactl store -f aplay-audible1.state to save my alsa settings at http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/aplay-audible1.state Can you please compare this against yours? 2. xfmedia doesn't start at all. An attempt to start the program from a shell, too, doesn't give any output or error message. Can you try mplayer first? I can install xfmedia too if it really has some openmoko specific issue but I'd like to hear if mplayer works for you first. 3. The ring tone is just a lousy noise. You mean you don't like the tune? ;-) I don't like it either and it's also non-free so it's going to change anyway. If you know python you can fix this from the source code (apt-get source fso-frameworkd and search for .sid). 4. During a phone call, voices are poorly transmitted (noisy), for me as well as for the recipient. That is bit more complex issue. It would definitely help if we could record some standard test call. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?
Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i can make a GPRS connection. when it's up, i can place a call, and the outgoing GPRS connection temporarily suspends. when it's up, incoming calls go straight to voicemail; the phone doesn't even give me the choice of accepting the call. I can answer incoming calls but I need to restart GPRS after each call. Can you please capture everything sent/received to the GSM chip in your case? before i start trying to find out *how* to configure pppd to do what i want, i'd like to know if the phone is capable of it! i'd very much appreciate any ideas or insights anyone has on this. Yep, I understand. It's sometimes bith frustrating to debug these things when you have a black box (the gsm chip) there. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Power drain on slee, Was: Customize Debian image in a mini desktop
Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
same here - i put freerunner to sleep ('apm -s') when i myself went
Don't use apm -s directly. Before calling apm -s zhone will ask
frameworkd to do all sorts of setup for proper suspend. If you don't
do these the phone will wake when you e.g. move to different GSM cell.
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Re: debian/apm/apmd - experimenting
Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i guess so .. first time it occured to me .. and hopefully never again .. If it only overwrites the first 512 bytes you can surely easily recover these back by just running only the partitioning stage of the installer? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
I'd also *love* to see a phone with two SIM slots - I can see the interface now, when you dial a number, it prompts you with dial as: number 1 number 2. I also like the Idea of having certain contacts set to automatically dial using a specified sim. In Real Life, telephones with two SIM slots are meant to be used by married people who need a secure, second communication channel... Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problem with SD Card
Hi Nicolas, search the list(s) or the wiki for the various parameters in ( I think ) /sys/module/glamo_mci/parameters/ : It boils down to either setting idle_clk=1 prior to suspend to avoid getting the MBR trashed, and/or reducing the sd cards max speed on bootup to get the card recognized (which looks like your issue ) Don't worry, I faced the same issues, and the very same card works fine now! Hope this gives you enough pointers, Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to start X as non root user without using display manager
C R McClenaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm hoping to boot into a non privileged user to use the phone. Does anyone know how to start X as a non root user without using a display manager. My attempts to simply add --chuid name|uid option to start-stop-daemon result in the error message - X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. If I login using a usb keyboard an issue startxfce from the shell there isn't any problem. to start X without owning the console, see /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config Thoughts? Personnally, on debian, I use that in /etc/inittab : 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L -n -l /usr/local/sbin/autologin 38400 tty2 and autologin : #!/bin/sh exec su -l user -c startx -- vt4 Thanks to getty in inittab, the console is owned by the launcher, and /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config do not nead to be touched. to customise your xsession, just customise .xsession. -- Guillaume Pinot http://www.irccyn.ec-nantes.fr/~pinot/ ``Computers are good at following instructions, but not at reading your mind.'' -- Donald E. Knuth, the TeXbook () ASCII ribbon campaign -- Against HTML e-mail /\ http://www.asciiribbon.org -- Against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A2DP FYI
FYI, I messed around quite a bit with A2DP before I finally got it working without choppyness. FYI, my problem apparantly had something to do with 'role switching' I've added the following to the wiki: If you experience problems with choppyness, try changing your hcid.conf to include lm accept,master; and lp hold,sniff,park; You may also have to bond (commonly known as 'pairing') your phone and your headset. See http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/Bonding for details. -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i can make a GPRS connection. when it's up, i can place a call, and the outgoing GPRS connection temporarily suspends. when it's up, incoming calls go straight to voicemail; the phone doesn't even give me the choice of accepting the call. I can answer incoming calls but I need to restart GPRS after each call. Can you please capture everything sent/received to the GSM chip in your case? i'd be happy to; can you point me to any resource that lets me know a way of doing that? does the muxd have a flag that tells it to hive off a copy of the datastream (that'd be really handy about now)? -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU Illume Tango Theme
Ole Kliemann wrote: Has anybody ever tried to change the qtopia appearance? It's a bit out of tune now. I've tried it. But changing the Orange.conf color scheme doesn't seem to affect its appearance. I must study it a little more... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To get it you must to have double GSM hardware, double standbay power consume, and so a higher cost! Dotan Cohen wrote: Would it be reasonable for future Openmoko phones to accept multiple SIM cards? I don't know if three is pushing it, but two certainly sounds reasonable. The expectation would be that the user could receive calls from both lines at the same time. When making calls, SMSing, or browsing 3G one could either specify which network to use or have a default set. Individual contacts could even have an override option to the default to always use a particular network. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIwXsLSIAU/I6SkT0RAkTlAJ40m/MH2IBbWtHe8qT4P2XoG+l3TACfbeO0 9+agrqdo/pw98Xu7oqaCmDM= =EUh4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
2008/9/5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd also *love* to see a phone with two SIM slots - I can see the interface now, when you dial a number, it prompts you with dial as: number 1 number 2. I also like the Idea of having certain contacts set to automatically dial using a specified sim. In Real Life, telephones with two SIM slots are meant to be used by married people who need a secure, second communication channel... What about those who like to separate their business life from their personal life? Or for that matter, those who like to separate their crack business from their pot business? Or, worse yet, those in a nation where calling carrier A from A costs little, and calling carrier B from B costs little, but calling carrier B from A or vice versa is expensive? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
2008/9/5 Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To get it you must to have double GSM hardware, double standbay power consume, and so a higher cost! There are those who want cheap, and those who want features. To which market does OpenMoko aspire to cater to? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?
Tom Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i'd be happy to; can you point me to any resource that lets me know a way of doing that? does the muxd have a flag that tells it to hive off a copy of the datastream (that'd be really handy about now)? The low-level way is to strace -o gsm0710muxd.strace -p `pidof gsm0710muxd` -s4096 -f -tt but you might get lucky if you just set log_level = DEBUG in frameworkd.conf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg update failed
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Giovanni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Giovanni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like other people said, what distribution are you using? I am using 2007.02 I guess you should change them 'manually', then, but it still seems weird that this wasn't updated... Was this the first time you used opkg update/opkg upgrade? No, it wasn't the first time. So, what repositories do I have to use for updating 2007.02 ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Anyone can sell me a phone in Sweden over the next 5 days?
Hi all, especially resellers. After deciding that getting a Neo in Israel is simply impossible for the next few months, I have been scheduled to go on a business trip to Sweden over the next few days. Mainly, I arrive on Sunday morning, and depart Tuesday evening. I was thinking of getting a Neo while I'm there. I already called the Swedish reseller, who said he is out of stock. This goes out to everyone else. Is there anyone here who can sell me a phone over the next few days? Thanks, Shachar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bluetooth convenience scripts
I found a useful python script on Gentoo's boards for using the bluez-utils
d-bus interface for activating bluetooth keyboards so that they will connect
automatically when you turn them on. I've also modified it and created one
that does the same thing for A2DP headsets, and I've decided to share :) The
keyboard one can/must be used in lieu of hidd, so it's for newer versions of
bluez-utils (Available in the testing and unstable feeds)
You also have to bond (pair) the devices first. Instructions for that are
here: http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/Bonding (Feel free to make a
convenience script for the bonding process too)
You may also have to run:
dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.bluez
/org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.SetTrusted? string:AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF (Feel
free to add this to the script)
If you want to use an A2DP headset you can add an entry like this to your
/etc/asound.conf
pcm.bluetooth {
type bluetooth
device AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF
profile auto
}
And then you can tell alsa aware applications to use it for output. i.e.:
mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth nifty.mp3
(I believe you can also name it pcm.!default and it will become the default.)
--
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http://daniel.benoy.name
audtool.py
Description: application/python
hidtool.py
Description: application/python
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qtopia address book search bar
Hi! In order to make ASU a bit more usable for larger addressbooks, I created the patch attached to the following bug report: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1966 It enables the search bar in the addressbook, which is currently disabled in finger mode qtopia themes. Could someone please test (I have tested the patch) and apply this patch? Cheers, Florian PS: You can find a recompiled qtopia here: http://www.hackenberger.at/openmoko/feeds/om2008/om-gta02/ But please be aware that you have to install ALL qtopia-phone-x11* packages in order to test it, because the buildkey changed (see bug #1959). Please do NOT use my feed for anything else but testing this patch! -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia Contacts and Wildcards
Certain web-based SMS services use a different (semi-random) from number for the messages they send. Facebook comes to mind, it sends from FBOOK### (32665###). Is it possible to use wildcards in a contact's number to catch all of these different messages as coming from the same source? -- Gabriel A. Devenyi B.Eng. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtopia] Does qtopia desktop work with freerunner?
Vinc Duran ha scritto: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 16:30, Kieran Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lorn, Could you perhaps point us in the direction of this program? I haven't been able to find it myself, and I worry it's one of those Trolltech secrets :) I think it is a commercial plugin for Outlook (must search on Trolltech site...) I would pay a reasonable amount :-) Qtopia is using a new protocol or an existing one like SyncML or another one? If it's new there are some infos/sources so that someone can write a plugin to sync his evolution or thunderbird with freerunner? It's only a question Thank you Pietro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?
Am Sunday 31 August 2008 10:38:47 schrieb Tom Yates: i can make a GPRS connection. when it's up, i can place a call, and the outgoing GPRS connection temporarily suspends. when it's up, incoming calls go straight to voicemail; the phone doesn't even give me the choice of accepting the call. Yep, that's expected. See earlier discussions on this list. my understanding from the wiki was that GSM multiplexing allows both a GPRS connection and a phone call to be handled at the same time. so i'd sort of assumed that i could still take an incoming call, even if that would temporarily suspend the GPRS connection. Yes, that's the theory. In practice this does hardly work and it's likely not a fault of the GSM chipset. so: have i misunderstood completely? is the MUXing simply about sharing access to the modem, rather than the line (ie, connection between modem and network) as well? Yes. or should i be able to take an incoming call while the GPRS is up? Only, if the connection is kind of idle at this point, i.e. it might work while you are pinging a host, it might not work when you are wget'ting loads of data. and if so, should the GPRS suspend while i do, or should i be able to run them both simultaneously? GPRS will nicely suspend once you were lucky enough to accept the call. It will automagically resume. before i start trying to find out *how* to configure pppd to do what i want, i'd like to know if the phone is capable of it! i'd very much appreciate any ideas or insights anyone has on this. As it stands, there's no pppd configuration which will improve things. The problem is the network. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problem with SD Card
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sys/module/glamo_mci/parameters# cat sd_drive 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sys/module/glamo_mci/parameters# cat sd_idleclk 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sys/module/glamo_mci/parameters# cat sd_max_clk 1666 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sys/module/glamo_mci/parameters# cat sd_slow_ratio 8 haven't had much success yet I installed the before/after idle scripts any pointers to a procedure or something ? any help greatly appreciated NiL begin:vcard fn:Nicolas LAURANCE n:LAURANCE;Nicolas org:Zindep adr;quoted-printable:;;25, rue de l'ancienne Mairie;Bourgbarr=C3=A9;;35230;France email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Consultant tel;work:02 99 57 03 09 tel;fax:02 99 57 03 69 tel;cell:06 09 86 59 96 url:http://www.zindep.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problem with SD Card
What helped me was setting up another menu entry in u-boot adding to the bootargs: glamo_mci.sd_drive=3 glamo_mci.sd_idleclk=1 glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 rootdelay=5 The relevant part was sd_max_clk ( might work with higher value, but is ok as is for me) and the rootdelay, after that the card was recognized properly. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building FSO Wiki page
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: For building a .dev branch, in your local.conf file, you should have at least the following three entries. Example for the Angstrom distribution and the Openmoko gta01 machine: BBFILES = /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb DISTRO = angstrom-2008.1 MACHINE = om-gta01 I thought DISTRO was openmoko for FSO builds? The easiest way to build FSO is: wget http://shr.bearstech.com/Makefile make fso-testing-image -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: German for Qtopia
Richy wrote: see there: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_change_the_dictionary_used_by_the_predictive_keyboards_.3F I think the words.dawg that comes with the tool is italian. As said above I've made a qtopia italian dictionary file (still incomplete but almost usable) [1]. I've also made a custom version of the predictive keyboard with some Italian special chars (àèéìòù...) Give it a try! [1] http://www.3v1n0.net/openmoko/qtopia-italian-keyboard.tar.bz2 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth convenience scripts
Daniel Benoy wrote:
I found a useful python script on Gentoo's boards for using the bluez-utils
d-bus interface for activating bluetooth keyboards so that they will connect
automatically when you turn them on. I've also modified it and created one
that does the same thing for A2DP headsets, and I've decided to share :) The
keyboard one can/must be used in lieu of hidd, so it's for newer versions of
bluez-utils (Available in the testing and unstable feeds)
You also have to bond (pair) the devices first. Instructions for that are
here: http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/Bonding (Feel free to make a
convenience script for the bonding process too)
You may also have to run:
dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.bluez
/org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.SetTrusted? string:AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF (Feel
free to add this to the script)
If you want to use an A2DP headset you can add an entry like this to your
/etc/asound.conf
pcm.bluetooth {
type bluetooth
device AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF
profile auto
}
And then you can tell alsa aware applications to use it for output. i.e.:
mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth nifty.mp3
(I believe you can also name it pcm.!default and it will become the default.)
Thanks! This is very helpful.
I'd like to add this to the wiki, but I'm just learning my way around
Bluetooth. Can you help me find the place for it?
Perhaps in
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Advanced_Audio_Distribution_Profile_.28A2DP.29
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context sensitive menus
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Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
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Ugly work-around headset notification
I propose the this script [1] as a work-around for the lack of correctly working headset insertion detection. This should be coupled with a alsa state file that correctly disables the external speaker, like [2]. This is an ugly script and has two major failings so use with caution. Upon receiving a dbus message, the script will store the current state to a temp file and load your new state. When the headphone is unplugged, it loads the temp state back. 1) It is a shell script parsing dbus-monitor which is horribly inefficient. Moreover, dbus-monitor does not properly shutdown when the script is terminated. A wise person would have writen this in C or python but I am lazy and dislike python. 2) While headset insertion does register a dbus message, there is no difference between inserted and removed states. Perhaps that is why this whole thing is busted in the first place? Therefore, if you have the headphones in when this script is started it won't know about that. [1] http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/headset-watcher [2] http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/headphones.state -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
Hello people, I want to share a simple duke nukem 3d port for Neo which you can play using the accelerometer :) You can get all the files at: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/ and the link below has the instructions: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/readme-openmoko.txt Ah, if you have doubts about how to play, please check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260Kpiqv9_U and this: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png Have fun! Rafa -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
Rafael, I just wanted to tell you that I love you! :D -Dale Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: Hello people, I want to share a simple duke nukem 3d port for Neo which you can play using the accelerometer :) You can get all the files at: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/ and the link below has the instructions: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/readme-openmoko.txt Ah, if you have doubts about how to play, please check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260Kpiqv9_U and this: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png Have fun! Rafa -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
I'm SO installing that when my openmoko shows up! That is freakin sweet!. Will it run on 2007.2 or do you have to upgrade to 2008.8 and above? -Shawn Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: Hello people, I want to share a simple duke nukem 3d port for Neo which you can play using the accelerometer :) You can get all the files at: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/ and the link below has the instructions: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/readme-openmoko.txt Ah, if you have doubts about how to play, please check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260Kpiqv9_U and this: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png Have fun! Rafa -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
Dont think so - changing sim cards, not running two parallel systems. There are already systems that do this I think - saw a discussion on one of the OM lists a couple of months ago. Just needs some smart design and the will-power to do it. Billk On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 21:31 +0300, Michele Renda wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To get it you must to have double GSM hardware, double standbay power consume, and so a higher cost! Dotan Cohen wrote: Would it be reasonable for future Openmoko phones to accept multiple SIM cards? I don't know if three is pushing it, but two certainly sounds reasonable. The expectation would be that the user could receive calls from both lines at the same time. When making calls, SMSing, or browsing 3G one could either specify which network to use or have a default set. Individual contacts could even have an override option to the default to always use a particular network. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIwXsLSIAU/I6SkT0RAkTlAJ40m/MH2IBbWtHe8qT4P2XoG+l3TACfbeO0 9+agrqdo/pw98Xu7oqaCmDM= =EUh4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Chancing SIM card without reboot
2008/9/6 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are those who want cheap, and those who want features. To which market does OpenMoko aspire to cater to? Hmm, didn't we just pay nearly $400 for this thing? How much would the additional hardware cost? If it's $50 or less then I think it's a no-brainer. Most people I know have two cellphones, and if one $450 device can replace two $400 devices then it's a deal. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
I suspect that it won't run on 2007.2, because the accelerometers seem to be broken. I get Unknown Multivoc error code. when i try to run it in 2007.2. -Dale Shawn Thompson wrote: I'm SO installing that when my openmoko shows up! That is freakin sweet!. Will it run on 2007.2 or do you have to upgrade to 2008.8 and above? -Shawn Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: Hello people, I want to share a simple duke nukem 3d port for Neo which you can play using the accelerometer :) You can get all the files at: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/ and the link below has the instructions: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/readme-openmoko.txt Ah, if you have doubts about how to play, please check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260Kpiqv9_U and this: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/duke-nukem-3d/how-to-play-duke.png Have fun! Rafa -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
