Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:52:13 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:52:00 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: So this is a little utility I wrote [1] to check the frequency of each word and writing back a new dictionary with frequency data. To run it you need php-cli (I guess v5 or above), set the given options, do php words-popularity.php and wait the work to be finished! :P It could be a long work, but it should give good results. yes. it would. who wants to run it? :) Ummm. Nice try, but see the results below. I ran this remotely on my workstation at work, since it's right on a 20mb fiber... Hopefully I'll be allowed to use Google again by the time I get in to work tomorrow... ;) j [1328/98568] [1329/98568] [1330/98568] Unknown Popularity of Aeneid's [1331/98568] Unknown Popularity of Aeolus [1332/98568] Unknown Popularity of Aeolus's [1333/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeon [1334/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeon's [1335/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeons [1336/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerate [1337/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerated [1338/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerates [1339/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerating [1340/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeration [1341/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeration's [1342/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerator [1343/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerator's [1344/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerators [1345/98568] After which browsing to www.google.com results in: Google Error We're sorry... ... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, if you suspect that your computer or network has been infected, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your systems are free of viruses and other spurious software. If you're continually receiving this error, you may be able to resolve the problem by deleting your Google cookie and revisiting Google. For browser-specific instructions, please consult your browser's online support center. If your entire network is affected, more information is available in the Google Web Search Help Center. We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on Google. To continue searching, please type the characters you see below: If you can read this, you do not have images enabled. Please enable images in order to proceed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 02:07:38 -0400 Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:52:13 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:52:00 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: So this is a little utility I wrote [1] to check the frequency of each word and writing back a new dictionary with frequency data. To run it you need php-cli (I guess v5 or above), set the given options, do php words-popularity.php and wait the work to be finished! :P It could be a long work, but it should give good results. yes. it would. who wants to run it? :) Ummm. Nice try, but see the results below. I ran this remotely on my workstation at work, since it's right on a 20mb fiber... Hopefully I'll be allowed to use Google again by the time I get in to work tomorrow... ;) hmm. looks like we need a botnet to distribute the queries! :) each bot does 1000 of them... :) j [1328/98568] [1329/98568] [1330/98568] Unknown Popularity of Aeneid's [1331/98568] Unknown Popularity of Aeolus [1332/98568] Unknown Popularity of Aeolus's [1333/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeon [1334/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeon's [1335/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeons [1336/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerate [1337/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerated [1338/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerates [1339/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerating [1340/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeration [1341/98568] Unknown Popularity of aeration's [1342/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerator [1343/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerator's [1344/98568] Unknown Popularity of aerators [1345/98568] After which browsing to www.google.com results in: Google Error We're sorry... ... but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, if you suspect that your computer or network has been infected, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your systems are free of viruses and other spurious software. If you're continually receiving this error, you may be able to resolve the problem by deleting your Google cookie and revisiting Google. For browser-specific instructions, please consult your browser's online support center. If your entire network is affected, more information is available in the Google Web Search Help Center. We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on Google. To continue searching, please type the characters you see below: If you can read this, you do not have images enabled. Please enable images in order to proceed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: why?
hmmm...in the wiki stands, that, what I've written...seems to be something like inconsistent information...thanks for info. Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:14:11 +1030 Von: Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: why? Detructor wrote: and FSO and SHR doesn't have images, yet. (FSO not before spring 2009) and nobody knows when the SHR will come with an image. FSO has released three milestone images, and also has daily build images available at downloads.freesmartphone.org - they may not be the complete stable finished images that you are looking for, but they are bootable functional images nonetheless. SHR has corresponding images available at shr.bearstech.com ... -- Rod (who manages the autobuilders which build those images) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
/etc/resolv.conf with qt extended
What does the GUI in qt extended use when connecting on wifi? For me after using the GUI /etc/resolv.conf would always end up empty. ifup eth0 does the right thing and populated it correctly. Today used the GUI and repeatedly did a cat /etc/resolv.conf over ssh. I notice that it does get populated correctly but then something happens and its empty. Any reasoning/fixes for this behavior? -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: why?
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 08:34 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hmmm...in the wiki stands, that, what I've written...seems to be something like inconsistent information...thanks for info. As you might know, everyone can edit a wiki. I remember I wrote something like you can't find this framework in official openmoko images before 2009, however there are framework testing images available -- not really distro, but a way to get developers up to speed w/ the framework. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community ( what's a community manager to do?)
On 6 Oct 2008, at 22:19, Steve Mosher wrote: Stroller wrote: One of the things that Risto was complaining about was the number of distros for the Freerunner, and they're all incomplete!! His words why don't the developers feel ok to contribute directly to 2007.x and 2008.x but 'fork' their own distros? echo my own complaints a couple of months ago in my message Community contributions to core apps features 9 weeks ago. ... It was clear that this too would cause division. I guess you could say we embraced fragmentation, well aware of the pitfalls. I think that it's easy for people to complain about the pitfalls without seeing - at the moment - how successful the forks are. The common complaint is duplication of effort - which then leads to a desire for one true distro - but considering how much the situation has improved in only a few weeks this doesn't seem to be a problem. When you start thinking about one true distro you naturally start thinking that it's Openmoko's responsibility to manage it, and democratic (or consensus based) community contributions, and I think this is 1/3 of what Risto was complaining about (bugs / distros / information). So the only answer to this IS to have more distros. And really, anyone complaining about the state of the current software stacks should have been here 3 months ago. Back then it was Openmoko shouldn't have shipped broken hardware with this GPS bug! Isn't that now all fixed in the kernel drivers? No-one who sees how much the situation has improved is complaining now. We actually like the fact that there are competing distros. The one unique thing we offer is the freedom to choose your distro and choose your carrier. Yes, indeed! And thank goodness! Otherwise we'd all be stuck with Sean's blue-sky vision. Thank goodness it's an unpopular one ;) since it has lead to all these other great distros! Build the product and the community will come to you! It already has, it's just a little too early for everyone to see the fruits of this. yes. my question is can we optimize the effort. Again, open question. negative feedback is as welcome ( in due course) as positive feedback.not to pat you on the back stroller, but when Sean and I talk we almost invariably discuss your perspective on things. I'll be glad to bill you for my time. ;) We already have Michael Shiloh providing weekly community updates (ahem) - IMO a community manager would just be a distraction from Openmoko's real business. You should be concentrating on the hardware, and if you're employing an additional member of staff then make it a kernel programmer, so that your hardware runs more smoothly for the distros that evolve around it. Or get FSO complete sooner, so that (again) all the distros benefit. Well engineering hiring continues day in and day out. As VP of marketing it's part of my job to find ways to make use of this wonderful asset, the community I'll give you an example. At linux world I faced a huge problem. Two booths. and a marketing staff of two. me and michael. And a sales staff of two. Whats missing? somebody with technical knowledge at the booth. Should I ask for an engineer to attend the trade show? Nope, I asked the community to step forward and man the booths with us. When the press came to talk to me, I pointed them at the community member who gave them the unvarnished truth. At first PR thought I was insane, later they changed their minds. Now, for example, I cant coordinate this kind of effort all the time for every show around the world. Is that a job for a full time trade show manager or a community manager? I don't know, I'm at the stage of kicking around ideas. Some of them should get kicked in the head, others in the butt. But its not a distraction. me dragging engineers off of projects to support trade shows is a distraction, to use a concrete example. From outside it's obviously difficult to appreciate how busy you are. I always assumed you spent your days drinking lattes playing fussball in the trendy corporate offices. ;) I don't know that this example - better co-ordination of PR marketing - actually resolves Risto's complaints. There definitely IS a place for users like him to report bugs and test daily builds, and I don't see how to make him - or others like him - see that if they can't already appreciate that from what's already out there. He asks I don't know what's the development status of the software or what's the general direction the community and/or Openmoko is heading to? - well, the answer to that is surely improving the software, and it's happening the same way that it happens in every other open- source product. People are writing their own little apps, porting others, writing blog posts and HOWTOs, answering questions on the mailing list. The community is like an avalanche - it
[debian] how to build emacs 23?
I would like to build emacs 23 for Freerunner on Debian, but I have no clear idea how to do it. Pointers would be appreciated. -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Tuesday 07 October 2008, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Fwiw, I'm now experimenting with slightly less aggressive settings for noise reduction and echo cancelling, since some users complained about audio being too choppy. Trying now with: c.append( '@ST=-26' ) # audio side tone: set to minimum c.append( %N028B ) # Long Echo Cancellation: active, -6db c.append( %N0125 ) # Noise reduction: active, -6db Does that make it worse or better? That'll depend on the mixer settings among other things. You'll need to post the state file too if we're to report anything consistent. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] how to build emacs 23?
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2008-10-07 10:02:56 +0200 : I would like to build emacs 23 for Freerunner on Debian, but I have no clear idea how to do it. Pointers would be appreciated. Unofficial source packages are available on http://emacs.orebokech.com/ Roland. -- Roland Mas In every life you got some trouble, when you worry you make it double. -- in Don't worry, be happy (Bobby McFerrin) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended: auto power-on?
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:57:53 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far the good stuff, now the bugs: snip And some inconveniences: snip I just found out something new: I took my sim out of the cell phone this night and didn't turn on the phone afterwards. This morning however the phone was in suspended state?? It seems to have auto-powered on at 06:00 this morning? Is it supposed to do that? It is not the first time I noticed this, but I always figured it was me, but this time I'm pretty sure I didn't power it on myself. I'm not even sure it is related to qtextended for this matter. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended: auto power-on?
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:22, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found out something new: I took my sim out of the cell phone this night and didn't turn on the phone afterwards. This morning however the phone was in suspended state?? It seems to have auto-powered on at 06:00 this morning? Is it supposed to do that? It is not the first time I noticed this, but I always figured it was me, but this time I'm pretty sure I didn't power it on myself. I'm not even sure it is related to qtextended for this matter. Your phone probably started when you put back the battery in. I do not know when exactly it does this... but I know mine sometime does. Was your phone plugged in (wall charger...) ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org
Le lundi 06 octobre 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8 Yes. My analysis is: these images were created by Openmoko, of Openmoko sofware, and uploaded by Coolcat, who is an Openmoko employee, so the rights are unambiguously with Openmoko Inc.. And Openmoko specifically wrote in the page footers that all this Wiki content is available under GNU Free Documentation License 1.2. halfjokeI am not a lawyer, but if you want to give me money so that you can sue me if Openmoko sues you for using the images.../halfjoke Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Screenshots from wiki.openmoko.org
Tobias Kündig ??: Hello everyone I'm working for a free german Linux-Magazine called Yalmagazine (www.yalmagazine.org). We are publishing an article about the Openmoko Freerunner this month. I'm writing to ask you, if I may use some 2008.8 screenshots from the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8 I'm sure someone on this list can answer my question. Thanks in advance, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi , I am Openmoko Wiki editor. Brenda, can you tell me which image you want to use? I can offer you some. Feel free to contact with me. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
These settings ( https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267#comment:16 ) made my Freerunner echofree 5 weeks ago, haven't hade the time to play with it since. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended: auto power-on?
Was your phone plugged in (wall charger...) ? nope, it was unplugged. And for sure powered down, even after I re-inserted the battery. I had the same thing last evening. Unplugged phone, powered down, and suddenly it switched itself on. I did not take down the time, but it was quite surprising to see it happen... Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM contacts and QTExtended?
Paul skrev: Where's the best place to report bugs for the images from Troll/Nokia? Try their forum: http://qtextended.org/modules/newbb_plus/ Paul No offence, but that forum is useless (until now) But no problems here, had problems when I copied the tlf contact from Qtopia 4.3.3 to QtExtended 4.4.1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raster's keyboard is nice! So I tried his Image and installed fso as a phone stack. Further I like tangoGPS and also installed it together with fso-gpsd. However, tangoGPS does not show up on the desktop. Any ideas? applications.menu should have change. In /usr/share/applications, replace Application by Applications for the Categories section. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended: auto power-on?
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:39:25 +0200 (CEST) Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was your phone plugged in (wall charger...) ? nope, it was unplugged. And for sure powered down, even after I re-inserted the battery. I had the same thing last evening. Unplugged phone, powered down, and suddenly it switched itself on. I did not take down the time, but it was quite surprising to see it happen... Paul ssh into the phone and do a logread, that should tell you the time. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:19:58 +0200, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raster's keyboard is nice! So I tried his Image and installed fso as a phone stack. Further I like tangoGPS and also installed it together with fso-gpsd. However, tangoGPS does not show up on the desktop. Any ideas? Further, on booting zhone comes up without the illume desktop. Only issueing /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart rectifies the situation. Did I screw up something somewhere? Lastly, what repositorities do you guys use for updates? Is there a way to use both fso and om? cheers Eildert Yeah, I ran into that with TangoGPS. Go into /usr/share/applications and edit tangogps.desktop - change the 'Categories' entry to 'Office' and the icon will appear. Zhone auto-starts, which is likely what we want since in this setup it doesn't register to GSM network and work as a phone without Zhone running. Drop-down the Top Shelf and you can select 'Home' to see the desktop, or select one of the three empty squares from the four on the top-center/right to switch to a different desktop that doesn't have Zhone on it... I'd be very leery of mixing feeds... I've got mine using http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable. (Although I still don't have any sound but the alarm, will be looking into that more later today) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community: Official newsletter?
As an example like the ones given above (Gnome, KDE, etc..), I would like to add symfony. Their developpement politic is discutible, but their comunication with the comunity is just awesome : see http://www.symfony-project.org/ and http://www.symfony-project.org/blog Thomas 2008/10/7 Kostis Anagnostopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excellent and creative post Alex about the resposibilities of an Editor! Just a thought along your lines: - We do not need a PR Manager to *insualte* the community from the enginners. - We need an Editor to ease communications among those 2 groups. Kostis On Mon 06 Oct 2008 11:11:20 Alex Osborne wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: Question: what functions do you see a community manager performing. Write his job spec. As I see it there's two main points that Risto and others have usually brought up on this topic, communication and leadership. Communication This is the big point that everyone always mentions. You can't have leadership without first a way to communicate effectively. In my opinion, the wiki is being covered pretty well now and is becoming a really good _reference_. So what is missing? News! News! News! The engineering updates are excellent once you've discovered them. The community updates by Steve leading up to the release of the FreeRunner were also good. The planet, as several people have mentioned is a mixed bag, now and then there's good blog posts by various people but there's too much off topic or personal stuff that shouldn't be there and it's in desperate need of a way to filter by language. Sadsammy also pointed out in a reply to Risto's Lost Openmoko Community blog post that these guys are doing fantastic job: http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/search/label/openmoko But they're not even in the planet! (I just filed a bug to admin-trac). There's also not enough stuff from within Openmoko itself in the planet, it should be a central place to look for news. How is news handled elsewhere? For small specialised projects a mailing list and the lead developer's blog is fine. But the Openmoko community is extremely diverse covering lots and lots of different bases and is rapidly growing in size. It's not just a single software package, heck it's not even a single distro! So lets look to the big diverse communities. For general Linux stuff there is the absolutely fantastic Linux Weekly News [1]. In addition to that, virtually all the large community-style projects have their own newsletters, either weekly, bi-weekly or monthly: Debian [2], Gentoo [3], Ubuntu [4], Fedora [5], Mozilla [6] and so on. GNOME [7] and KDE [8] have a continuous planet-style news rather than a newsletter, but they are edited by real humans and serve much the same purpose and have recurring feature articles. Lets look at what they have in common: * Visibility: If not directly on the front page, then a big fat link at the start of the navbar News. Not hidden away in some mailing list (although usually mirrored or announced on lists). * Well edited: Typically they have one *human* editor who puts everything together in a consistent easy to read way and filters out the rubbish. * Sections: The details vary a bit between the projects but in some form they usually have the following. Theses don't have to be particularly long. A paragraph or two on each section would do. - Table of contents with highlights of the most important stuff from the other sections. - Corporate news: What's happening in the core company (Mozilla), council (Gentoo) or core developers (Linux kernel). These decisions have been taken. This is the new policy for X. We're opening a new t-shirt store. We're looking to hire a community manager and two kernel hackers. We will be having an IRC or real-life meeting to discuss issue X at this time and place. John Smith has moved to the Foobar team will now be working on X. This should help a little to give a voice to the company, what are its interests and where it is going. - Special features: Two or three more in-depth articles on a particular topic. This could be a review of a new program, discussion on a debate about a particularly tricky technical problem or a round-up from a recent conference or event with a few photos. It would be good to have maybe one or two by the newsletter's editor and then some good-quality articles by guest authors. If there's a good article on some random person's blog, ask them whether you can include it. Offering some incentives (merchandise, gear or even a small sum of money like LWN) could help encourage people to submit good articles. - Development news: Digest of the more interesting commits to the repositories of core projects. Bug tracker statistics (list of fixed bugs, how many news ones etc). LWN has the mailing list quote of the
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
It looks great, thanks! What is the recomended way of starting the application? Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello to all. For who is interested , I'd like to announce that the version 0.2 alpha 2 was released. You will found the deb package here: https://launchpad.net/sephora/+download The news of this version are: Some corrections on the translation and on GSM management (thank to Alex Osborne) The setting are saved between two execution of sephora (added a .sephora file on home dir) Added a setting page with Language selector, and an advanced mode. Minor other fixes :) Like usually I'd like to ask to every person who found something that doesn't like, to write to me. Best regards Michele Renda Ps. I have to make some changes on the code to use asynchronous dbus call, to make the program more responsive. It will be done, I hope, for beta 3 :) Ps/2. On this moment I can't push the last version on launchpad repository. It will be done at Now + 7 hours (You will understand when you will see a new tag Version 0.2 alpha 2 Thank you Michele Renda -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Making sound work (was Re: New Rasterman Image...)
El mar, 07-10-2008 a las 13:24 +0200, David Samblas escribió: El mar, 07-10-2008 a las 12:15 +0100, David Pottage escribió: On Mon, October 6, 2008 12:11 am, Richy wrote: I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn' ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call.. make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot after each package just to check...) Now, some PIM-software and this is near perfect :-) I am also having trouble with sound. I can hear the other party during calls, but apart from the The phone loudspeaker appears not to work. I don't get any ring tones, and I can't hear music from media plays such as pythm. I have installed pymixer, and have maxed out all the sliders but still nothing. I have also tried installing the snd_pcm_oss kernel module out of FSO, but it will not load due to undefined symbols. Any ideas. I am running the latest FDOM (Based on ASU 2008.9). have you managed to put the raster new illume in to FDOM??? :) :) I want to see it? an a step by step shell commands used will be even more cool :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community ( what's a community manager to do?)
Hi, Question: what functions do you see a community manager performing. Write his job spec. ( hint hint) how about that: * Work with Openmoko Inc. to flesh out a project structure and roadmap that encourages community participation * Work with Openmoko Inc. to enhance collaboration with the community * Work out a structure for the community (eg. Ubuntu-style teams) * Work with individual community members to lower the bar for them to contribute to Openmoko * Incentivize community participation (eg. Summer of code) * Enhance communication between Openmoko Inc. and the community * Enhance communication between Openmoko and other free software projects * Organize Openmoko presences at community events, conferences etc. Those are just off the top of my head, there is probably more to this job. And those are all topics Openmoko is already working on. But it seems to be done on the side all the while it could probably occupy several people full-time. I have mentioned Ubuntu above. It could serve as an example, although it surely differs from Openmoko at least in scale and maturity. There are however some striking similarities, like the fact that the core development and vision for the project is defined within a company. Jono Bacon, the Ubuntu community manager, seems to be making a good job, at least I have found the Ubuntu community to be very passionate yet helpful and friendly. Jono regularly speaks about his job and its challenges. I found his LCA 2007 talk quite interesting [1]. I am not convinced that a community manager is strictly necessary for Openmoko, but having one would surely be helpful. Kind regards David [1] http://www.linux.org.au/conf/2007/talk/173.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New Rasterman Image...
Raster's keyboard is nice! So I tried his Image and installed fso as a phone stack. Further I like tangoGPS and also installed it together with fso-gpsd. However, tangoGPS does not show up on the desktop. Any ideas? Further, on booting zhone comes up without the illume desktop. Only issueing /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart rectifies the situation. Did I screw up something somewhere? Lastly, what repositorities do you guys use for updates? Is there a way to use both fso and om? cheers Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A Call for community action
Hi Steve, Steve Mosher wrote: My idea. throw these out to community and see if folks would pick a bug and try to fix it, actually sign up to try to fix it, so we get a coordinated effort. Sean liked the idea and I thought it was worth a try. I'm afraid I'm not using any of the Qtopia apps at the moment, which most of these issues are about. It's also not clear (at least to me) whether we can even make Qtopia contributions, which may be part of the reason you're not getting many takers. As far as I'm aware there's no public source code tracker and I guess Trolltech having a seperate proprietary version might make accepting patches somewhat complicated for them. (I'd be pleased to be corrected though.) 5. 1493 : [system software] when press power button makes some noise during suspend time(https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1493) I had a look at this (see my comments in the ticket) and managed to stop it, but it's not much of a solution. This probably needs somone who is more of a hardware person than me. Cheers, Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] how to build emacs 23?
Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2008-10-07 10:02:56 +0200 : I would like to build emacs 23 for Freerunner on Debian, but I have no clear idea how to do it. Pointers would be appreciated. Unofficial source packages are available on http://emacs.orebokech.com/ Cool! Do you have any pointers how to actually build the package for Freerunner? Roland. -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
By Default it is launched without --preload (when it is started by System-Sephora). With version 0.2 beta 3, using asynchronous dbus call, it will not be more differences between with and without --preload. I hope you enjoy it! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A Call for community action
Nicola Mfb wrote: 2008/10/5 Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] I report an example about me, I'm not a kernel guru, so I'll never take a bug on suspend/resume and I'll not take a bug about qtopia on x11, as I think it will not be used in the future, so why should I waste my time? At the same time I like to develop with C++ and QT library, and the big part of time spent on openmoko goes there. So you may find a lot of my threads in this mailing-list about Qt, related bugs openened on the issue tracker here, at openembedded and trolltech, a wiki page to help/be helped from other peoples about qt developing etc. etc. I'm planning to write a qt application to test dbus api on FSO, and as I need pan network over bluetooth that will be my first try. As it seems there is nothing available when ready I'll be happy to share it! Only a part of problems i solved are available on mailing lists archives or on the wiki due to lack of time. This is the right spirit of the community :D You can talk with quickdev ( on irc, freenode #openmoko-cdevel ) to help him with SHR, a distro driven by community that works with FSO. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-to-Freerunner%21%21-tp1120039p1303049.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 08:10, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ummm. Nice try, but see the results below. I ran this remotely on my workstation at work, since it's right on a 20mb fiber... Hopefully I'll be allowed to use Google again by the time I get in to work tomorrow... ;) hmm. looks like we need a botnet to distribute the queries! :) each bot does 1000 of them... :) Or maybe it is possible to ask google to be allowed to do such a task ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 09:19 +0100 schrieb Al Johnson: On Tuesday 07 October 2008, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Fwiw, I'm now experimenting with slightly less aggressive settings for noise reduction and echo cancelling, since some users complained about audio being too choppy. Trying now with: c.append( '@ST=-26' ) # audio side tone: set to minimum c.append( %N028B ) # Long Echo Cancellation: active, -6db c.append( %N0125 ) # Noise reduction: active, -6db Does that make it worse or better? That'll depend on the mixer settings among other things. You'll need to post the state file too if we're to report anything consistent. I don't have any custom state files. I'm using the official Openmoko ones. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
Ciao Michele, I had some more suggestions for you: - I suggested a profile section... I have two thing to add to this: an alsa state selector (to switch simly from earphones to fr or vice versa) and an execute this script field (in this way when you switch profile you can execute by default a script that helps you in some things, e.g. configuring your weird wifi connection). - this in not strictly connected with sephora but may be: do you noticed that when you plug the charger into the usb you can take off the battery and the fr stays alive? I want a profile that doesn't charges the battery even if you're plugged with charger. ...just to use the fr as a notebook... is it clear? thanks for your work! ciao d On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: By Default it is launched without --preload (when it is started by System-Sephora). With version 0.2 beta 3, using asynchronous dbus call, it will not be more differences between with and without --preload. I hope you enjoy it! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A Call for community action
2008/10/5 Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope. nobody signed up. Hi Steve, I think it's not easy to involve the community in a specific task as bug fixing. According to me: * this requires high knowledge and systematic approach, so only a part of community may be affected * too many peoples thinks they already paid for a phone and the paid openmoko developers should fix bugs (I do not think this!!!) * there is a lack of information about future direction of the software stack * community peoples hacks openmoko for fun, so they want to spend their time following their needs, passions and capabilities. I report an example about me, I'm not a kernel guru, so I'll never take a bug on suspend/resume and I'll not take a bug about qtopia on x11, as I think it will not be used in the future, so why should I waste my time? At the same time I like to develop with C++ and QT library, and the big part of time spent on openmoko goes there. So you may find a lot of my threads in this mailing-list about Qt, related bugs openened on the issue tracker here, at openembedded and trolltech, a wiki page to help/be helped from other peoples about qt developing etc. etc. I'm planning to write a qt application to test dbus api on FSO, and as I need pan network over bluetooth that will be my first try. As it seems there is nothing available when ready I'll be happy to share it! Only a part of problems i solved are available on mailing lists archives or on the wiki due to lack of time. Consider now that a lot of peoples acts in a similiar manner, so a lot of excited guys are working randomly on somethink, someone is able to use python/gtk, someone is a distro guru etc. etc., they love to fix their own problems and write their scripts that often will be never shared, becouse they do not know that a lot of peoples may need it!!! So it should be easier to involve community in a application wish list, in a how-to/documentation wish list and in a test suite. These are simple and fun tasks. Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin there will be a new .deb once we manage to setup panel- plugin.projects.openmoko.org properly .. (and there are many things (features, bug-fixes) in my queue waiting to be done) ciao, morlac Am 02.10.2008 um 18:15 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Im having difficulty getting this working. Version 0.3 worked briefly. Any chance of a new deb? Hi gents, some words of what this is(as it produced some confusion last time: The openmoko-panel-plugin is a gtk based plugin that draws the powerstate of some FR hardware devices(i.e. gsm, gps) to a gtk based panel. theses panels are used i.e. in xfce4. so you can enable or disable the state of your gps receiver. See a screenshot here: http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel.png i just uploaded a new release (0.4) to my server. it can be downloaded from: http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel- plugin_0.4-1_all.debhttp://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel- plugin_0.4-1_amd64.changes http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel- plugin_0.4-1.diff.gzhttp://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel- plugin_0.4-1.dsc http://www.ohli.de/download/openmoko-panel-plugin_0.4.orig.tar.gz Changelog: * fixed many debianizing errors. * adding more dependencies * fixed problems with different versions on my laptop :-( * the menu entry should reappear * click opens a context menu to toggle the powerstate * removed some icons until they are finaly working the credit for the code changed goes to morlac. thank you for the big feature requests in the last mails. some of them are already integrated into the code. but the code needs a big cleanup. so please be patient. i think i will need a weekend to integrate all your suggestions *g* Cu Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFI6ydKr81gVylJyzERAkpuAKDJJzBbJlfpHtNTI/ShMJ9+gekC6gCfYSBT 31qMvtM8Xp+XdtxCA0R2hrI= =X9Tl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Making sound work (was Re: New Rasterman Image...)
El mar, 07-10-2008 a las 12:15 +0100, David Pottage escribió: On Mon, October 6, 2008 12:11 am, Richy wrote: I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn' ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call.. make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot after each package just to check...) Now, some PIM-software and this is near perfect :-) I am also having trouble with sound. I can hear the other party during calls, but apart from the The phone loudspeaker appears not to work. I don't get any ring tones, and I can't hear music from media plays such as pythm. I have installed pymixer, and have maxed out all the sliders but still nothing. I have also tried installing the snd_pcm_oss kernel module out of FSO, but it will not load due to undefined symbols. Any ideas. I am running the latest FDOM (Based on ASU 2008.9). have you managed to put the raster new illume in to FDOM??? :) :) I want to see it? an a step by ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.2 pre alpha 1 - Impressions and suggestions needed
Hello to all. For who is interested , I'd like to announce that the version 0.2 alpha 2 was released. You will found the deb package here: https://launchpad.net/sephora/+download The news of this version are: Some corrections on the translation and on GSM management (thank to Alex Osborne) The setting are saved between two execution of sephora (added a .sephora file on home dir) Added a setting page with Language selector, and an advanced mode. Minor other fixes :) Like usually I'd like to ask to every person who found something that doesn't like, to write to me. Best regards Michele Renda Ps. I have to make some changes on the code to use asynchronous dbus call, to make the program more responsive. It will be done, I hope, for beta 3 :) Ps/2. On this moment I can't push the last version on launchpad repository. It will be done at Now + 7 hours (You will understand when you will see a new tag Version 0.2 alpha 2 Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended: auto power-on?
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:28:35 +0200 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:22, Franky Van Liedekerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found out something new: I took my sim out of the cell phone this night and didn't turn on the phone afterwards. This morning however the phone was in suspended state?? It seems to have auto-powered on at 06:00 this morning? Is it supposed to do that? It is not the first time I noticed this, but I always figured it was me, but this time I'm pretty sure I didn't power it on myself. I'm not even sure it is related to qtextended for this matter. Your phone probably started when you put back the battery in. I do not know when exactly it does this... but I know mine sometime does. Was your phone plugged in (wall charger...) ? nope, it was unplugged. And for sure powered down, even after I re-inserted the battery. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Making sound work (was Re: New Rasterman Image...)
On Mon, October 6, 2008 12:11 am, Richy wrote: I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn' ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call.. make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot after each package just to check...) Now, some PIM-software and this is near perfect :-) I am also having trouble with sound. I can hear the other party during calls, but apart from the The phone loudspeaker appears not to work. I don't get any ring tones, and I can't hear music from media plays such as pythm. I have installed pymixer, and have maxed out all the sliders but still nothing. I have also tried installing the snd_pcm_oss kernel module out of FSO, but it will not load due to undefined symbols. Any ideas. I am running the latest FDOM (Based on ASU 2008.9). -- David Pottage Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had no problems with echo. But I can confirm the other issues. And one is missing: I can't recieve SMS. Does anyone? I wrote one to myself and a friend wrote one. after half an hour i turned neo off and put the card in my old phone and this recieved both messages. But now, i have another issue: somehow the theme changed. And at this theme the buttons at the bottom don't appear. so I neither can change nor do any other important things. I used FR with Qtextended as my one and only daily phone today, because I lost my Motorokr E6 the night before the last (using OM2008.8-update was an actual waking nightmare yesterday). I have been very happy with the results so far, but the problems I have found, confirming yours are: 1. Default volume too low: had to hand-edit gsmhandset.state, the volume control in settings call settings did not do the trick 2. Using the headset during a call requires you to select speakerphone from the menu - audio is routed usually through one earphone, but for the mic, you have to use the FR's speaker-mic. Selecting headset does not work - Could this mean the settings in gsmheadset.state and gsmspeakerout.state have been interchanged? 3. Strong echo heard by most of the callers 4. Phone needs to be reminded of power management functions when plugged in - I have already saved the settings in (added to) my profile 5. Whenever a new SMS is received, the phone reports earlier messages as unread in the popup notification 6. Some messages are received twice 7. Somehow, the phone seems to create copies of messages in the inbox - I now have 159 messages in one day, when the total received was perhaps 16. Sent items shows the correct number 8. In GPRS settings, I can't modify the APN setting, so there is no way to figure out if it works. The wiki says here [1] that it should be specified in the chat file. However, I don't know if Qtextended uses the same functionality to connect to GPRS. There are no such files in /etc/ppp 9. I don't think networking through usb0 works correctly. I have specified my proxy in settings internet new ethernet, also exported it as an environment variable under SSH, but no cigar. Ping to www.google.com or 208.67.222.222 doesn't seem to work. I am using Freeproxy as a bridge between my corporate lan on my laptop, and the FR 10. Due to 9 above, settings software packages does not work. Neither does opkg, for much the same reason, although I believe nothing should be installed from the OM repositories 11. What about GPS? Both 8 and 9 mean there is no way to test how it works. Plus there are hardly any tried and tested routing / navigation applications available (roadmaps seems to be experimental, haven't tried it). We need something like TangoGPS or Navit 12. The qwerty keyboard is too tiny and a bit messy. The predictive keyboard seems to have done away with the right-to-left flick for backspace So there are twelve problems I can enumerate quickly, but they are not showstoppers. I believe most of these issues will be cleared up quickly. Battery life is much better than under any of the OMs, applications start up much faster and I haven't even tried fastload yet, and respond much faster too! All in all, FR with Qtextended (4.4.1) is the closest I have gotten to a phone, much better than the 2007.2 factory image, which was quite buggy, and of course, everyone's favourite 2008.x. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#gprs-connect-chat.2C_version_1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Angus Ainslie wrote: Wifi is working as well as any basic distro install. You need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and or wpa_supplicant.conf but it is working. Well, saying 'working' is too much imho. I can connect only to an AP at each reboot and after that the wifi chip continues sucking my battery also if it isn't associated neither it can associate (and also scan) with anything else. I really hope that the Andy's patch to make the wifi driver modular could workaround these problems... In the meantime, why not use the Services GUI mentioned here [1] and kill wifi when not in use? [1] http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Craig B. Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - smart' theme has no way to get to dialer Strange, isn't it? For a few minutes, I thought I had deleted something. I think the finxi theme is rightly balanced in terms of usability and looks. I couldn't figure out how to use wheelbrowser, and I think it is best to stay away from it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a gtalk presence indicator. Million dollar question: where is gtalk? how do I install and configure it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /etc/resolv.conf with qt extended
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What does the GUI in qt extended use when connecting on wifi? For me after using the GUI /etc/resolv.conf would always end up empty. ifup eth0 does the right thing and populated it correctly. Today used the GUI and repeatedly did a cat /etc/resolv.conf over ssh. I notice that it does get populated correctly but then something happens and its empty. Any reasoning/fixes for this behavior? I had some glitches with usb0 and sometimes the phone freezing when fiddling with settings internet new ethernet. Again, ifup usb0 showed a message related to wlan0! I don't want to reproduce it right now because my SSH section is active. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FreeRunner for Sale in Denver - $350 or best offer
Will hand deliver if you're in Denver, or ship otherwise. Cash or credit cards accepted. This FreeRunner is in perfect condition. I have had it since August and have only used it for tinkering. It has a Zagg Invisible Shield on the screen plus I will include two extra ones still in their boxes. I will also include a Rayovac rechargeable battery worth $35. It is an aftermarket replacement for the Nokia BL series batteries, which fit in the fr battery compartment. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner for Sale in Denver - $350 or best offer
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:14:46 +0200, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will hand deliver if you're in Denver, or ship otherwise. Cash or credit cards accepted. And how exactly are you going to accept credit cards? :-) -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FDOM
I stuck the latest FDOM on the uSD card. Gotta love the boots while booting!! Looks very complete and a lot of fun. I may run that tomorrow and see what's going to happen. :-) Kudo's for the 'terminal keyboard', that's nifty!! Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
Al Johnson wrote: Unless there's a delay involved I can't see any harm in sending AT%N0187 at the start of every call. Do you have any idea how to achieve this without rebuilding the qtopia-x11 stuff? I thought about a little daemon that listens on the serial GSM interface and sends this command to the GSM chip as soon as it detects an incoming/outgoing call. I've installed gsm0710muxd and listened with cu on the new virtual GSM interface /dev/pts/2. Unfortunately only incoming calls are recognized (RING RING RING). Outgoing calls seem not to be detectable with just listening on the serial gsm interface. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [u-boot] Wrong image format for bootm command
The issue is that somehow your u-boot environment, which is stored in a separate partition to u-boot itself (and therefore not reset when you flash u-boot), has been cleared. There's a solution here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Uboot#What_if_I_borked_my_bootloader_environment_and_don.27t_get_a_prompt_anymore.3F Let me know if you have any trouble - I did this myself (on purpose) the other day, so it's still fairly fresh in my mind. Cheers, -Ian On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm having trouble booting my neo. I can get into NOR flash, and NAND flash, but the NAND flash only supplies one option: the Boot command. This command prints a message saying Wrong image format for the bootm command. I have grabbed the latest u-boot from: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin I have flashed this into my NAND using dfu-util from my NOR with no errors. My flash image is currently the FDOM image. I was attempting to install debian on my uSD. I updated to the latest uboot, configured it using a script provided at debian.org, and then booted into my flash image and proceeded to install debian. The process halted after partitioning, which then advised to use 'cu' to add some environmental variables to booting. After this, I rebooted and began receiving these errors. I currently cannot boot into anything. I can log into NOR (which seems fine) but I am unable to flash a working NAND (Just that boot option). Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Erik Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Can someone confirm that these settings solved the Echo issue on OM2008.08 ?
Anders Einar Hilden wrote: These settings ( https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267#comment:16 ) made my Freerunner echofree 5 weeks ago, haven't hade the time to play with it since. I'd like to hear from someone who used to have the echo problem, then tried the settings mentioned above and found they solved the problem. Then we'll put it up on the wiki. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
While I do think this is completely overcomplicated and you should rather rebuild the source than fiddling on this level, I'll tell you how to do it anyways: AT%CPI=4 enables the TI Calypso proprietary call progress status. See http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob_plain;f=framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py;hb=HEAD for details on the format. Have fun, :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Freerunner shown at SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany
Dear all, it is just 2 weeks left until the big event takes place in Munich - where you can get first hand experience with the Freerunner (and many other topics of course). Since I would like to give you all a chance, we still have enough free guest tickets left over. Nikolaus Schaller Am 26.09.2008 um 10:19 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Hi all, there is a good opportunity in October for interested people from Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Czech Republic and everywhere else to get direct experience with the Freerunner concept and device. Owners, Users, Developers will be at this fair - open for your questions and discussions. You will find the Freerunner at Hall B2 booth 426B (@ Golden Delicious Computers), a hall that also hosts many well known free open source projects as well as large enterprises supporting Open Source (e.g. IBM, Sun). The fair takes place 21.-24.10.2008, opening hours 9:00 - 18:00, at Munich Fair Center (Trudering). If you need a free guest ticket (one day single entry only, valid for public transport in Munich), please send me a private mail. More information about the Fair: http://www.systems.de/link/en/ 19137019 Golden Delicious Computers, a startup that supports open source within mobile office solutions, is a major reseller for the Freerunner in Europe. We will also have other products on the show: * lightweight 7 MiniNotebook with Debian * OSX / Cocoa compatible GUI Toolkit for handhelds and notebooks (open source) * digital paperpencil solution for OSX More info: http://www.systems.de/link/en/19150410/~/mmg_exvi-action/setModel/ accid/20268685/page/detail/pageno/1/searchcompany/golden%20Delicious %20Computers%20GmbHCo.%20KG/searchtype/advanced http://www.goldelico.com http://www.handheld-linux.com Nikolaus Schaller Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:46:56 +0200, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:32 PM, gromez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I somehow managed to get it to work to some extend. The phone isn' ringin, just vibrating, but I can talk and hear during a call.. make sure you have gstreamer installed, also I added a lot of packages, with alsa, gst, openmoko-state, etc. Didn't work until reboot. (And due to the Neos booting-time I don't want to reboot after each package just to check...) By default, it seems there's no /dev/dsp so sound can't work. Trying to find the missing package ... Well, it's not a package but snd_pcm_oss module must be loaded. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# modprobe snd_pcm_oss Well, I'm still unable to get a peep out of my FreeRunner with the new Rasterman image, except for the alarm. This is with Zhone and frameworkd, plus several alsa and oss packages. I'm using the FSO unstable feed. lsmod tells me: Module Size Used by ipt_LOG 5472 1 xt_tcpudp 2880 2 xt_state1952 3 iptable_filter 2208 1 iptable_nat 5860 0 nf_nat 16118 1 iptable_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 14344 5 iptable_nat xt_conntrack2368 0 nf_conntrack 58312 5 xt_state,iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4,xt_conntrack ip_tables 10344 2 iptable_filter,iptable_nat x_tables 11812 6 ipt_LOG,xt_tcpudp,xt_state,iptable_nat,xt_conntrack,ip_tables bnep 12288 2 snd_pcm_oss39872 0 snd_mixer_oss 14720 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 7944 0 snd_soc_s3c24xx_i2s 3896 1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_s3c24xx 4480 1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_wm8753 29152 1 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 snd_soc_core 27200 3 snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753,snd_soc_s3c24xx,snd_soc_wm8753 snd_pcm73253 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_soc_s3c24xx,snd_soc_core snd_timer 20164 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 6120 1 snd_pcm snd46132 7 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753,snd_soc_wm8753,snd_soc_core,snd_pcm,snd_timer rfcomm 36404 2 ohci_hcd 22060 0 hidp 14784 0 l2cap 21156 13 bnep,rfcomm,hidp hci_usb13980 0 bluetooth 54400 7 bnep,rfcomm,hidp,l2cap,hci_usb Any suggestions on what I've missed? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The Lost Openmoko Community ( what's a community manager to do?)
Stroller wrote: On 6 Oct 2008, at 22:19, Steve Mosher wrote: Stroller wrote: One of the things that Risto was complaining about was the number of distros for the Freerunner, and they're all incomplete!! His words why don't the developers feel ok to contribute directly to 2007.x and 2008.x but 'fork' their own distros? echo my own complaints a couple of months ago in my message Community contributions to core apps features 9 weeks ago. ... It was clear that this too would cause division. I guess you could say we embraced fragmentation, well aware of the pitfalls. I think that it's easy for people to complain about the pitfalls without seeing - at the moment - how successful the forks are. The common complaint is duplication of effort - which then leads to a desire for one true distro - but considering how much the situation has improved in only a few weeks this doesn't seem to be a problem. When you start thinking about one true distro you naturally start thinking that it's Openmoko's responsibility to manage it, and democratic (or consensus based) community contributions, and I think this is 1/3 of what Risto was complaining about (bugs / distros / information). So the only answer to this IS to have more distros. And really, anyone complaining about the state of the current software stacks should have been here 3 months ago. Back then it was Openmoko shouldn't have shipped broken hardware with this GPS bug! Isn't that now all fixed in the kernel drivers? No-one who sees how much the situation has improved is complaining now. We actually like the fact that there are competing distros. The one unique thing we offer is the freedom to choose your distro and choose your carrier. Yes, indeed! And thank goodness! Otherwise we'd all be stuck with Sean's blue-sky vision. Thank goodness it's an unpopular one ;) since it has lead to all these other great distros! Build the product and the community will come to you! It already has, it's just a little too early for everyone to see the fruits of this. yes. my question is can we optimize the effort. Again, open question. negative feedback is as welcome ( in due course) as positive feedback.not to pat you on the back stroller, but when Sean and I talk we almost invariably discuss your perspective on things. I'll be glad to bill you for my time. ;) We already have Michael Shiloh providing weekly community updates (ahem) - IMO a community manager would just be a distraction from Openmoko's real business. You should be concentrating on the hardware, and if you're employing an additional member of staff then make it a kernel programmer, so that your hardware runs more smoothly for the distros that evolve around it. Or get FSO complete sooner, so that (again) all the distros benefit. Well engineering hiring continues day in and day out. As VP of marketing it's part of my job to find ways to make use of this wonderful asset, the community I'll give you an example. At linux world I faced a huge problem. Two booths. and a marketing staff of two. me and michael. And a sales staff of two. Whats missing? somebody with technical knowledge at the booth. Should I ask for an engineer to attend the trade show? Nope, I asked the community to step forward and man the booths with us. When the press came to talk to me, I pointed them at the community member who gave them the unvarnished truth. At first PR thought I was insane, later they changed their minds. Now, for example, I cant coordinate this kind of effort all the time for every show around the world. Is that a job for a full time trade show manager or a community manager? I don't know, I'm at the stage of kicking around ideas. Some of them should get kicked in the head, others in the butt. But its not a distraction. me dragging engineers off of projects to support trade shows is a distraction, to use a concrete example. From outside it's obviously difficult to appreciate how busy you are. I always assumed you spent your days drinking lattes playing fussball in the trendy corporate offices. ;) I love being busy. I work out of the US, the corporate office is in Taiwan. I don't know that this example - better co-ordination of PR marketing - actually resolves Risto's complaints. There definitely IS a place for users like him to report bugs and test daily builds, and I don't see how to make him - or others like him - see that if they can't already appreciate that from what's already out there. The example wasnt meant to address Ristro's concerns. Ristro's concerns trigger me to thing about ALL the ways the community can help. And that triggered me to think about optimizing that effort. So, I look for ways to expand the role of the community in all corporate functions: engineering, marketing and sales remember the 10 pack? That idea was born out a question Sean and I
qvfb build fails missing Xtst
The last few times I've tried to do a compeltly clean build it fails to link qvfb complaining about a missing -lXtst. Anybody know what am I missing? Is this a test library that is not really needed and I can remove it from the configure script? Thanks, Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Anyone got Facebook Integration working?
Hi, Has anyone got Facebook contacts integration working yet? Here's what I tried : - Try to add a contact - In one of the phone number fields, change the type to Facebook - After this, the options context menu for that field shows a 'find on Facebook' menu item. - click on the 'find on Facebook', which then opens up a browser control asking for your username and password on what looks like a Facebook Apps page for the Qtopia Contacts Integration App. The problem is that I can't get a keyboard to show up at this point. I tried searching for that app directly on Facebook, but couldn't find anything like it. Any hints? Thanks, --gera. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Files and types
Hi all, I've been trying to view a few jpg images I put on the FR. No matter if they are in the Documents folder in memory or on the uSD, there is no way I get to see even the filename of any of them. Is there a guide or a wiki-page on how the FR recognises files, or am I doing dumb things? Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A Call for community action
Nicola Mfb wrote: 2008/10/5 Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope. nobody signed up. Hi Steve, I think it's not easy to involve the community in a specific task as bug fixing. I like challenging tasks. According to me: * this requires high knowledge and systematic approach, so only a part of community may be affected * too many peoples thinks they already paid for a phone and the paid openmoko developers should fix bugs (I do not think this!!!) * there is a lack of information about future direction of the software stack * community peoples hacks openmoko for fun, so they want to spend their time following their needs, passions and capabilities. Yes, personally as a programmer I loved finding and fixing other people's Bugs. I liked orignal development as well, but there was nothing that gave me a bigger thrill than fixing a bug in 5 minutes that some other guy had been studying for two weeks. to each his own. I report an example about me, I'm not a kernel guru, so I'll never take a bug on suspend/resume and I'll not take a bug about qtopia on x11, as I think it will not be used in the future, so why should I waste my time? At the same time I like to develop with C++ and QT library, and the big part of time spent on openmoko goes there. So you may find a lot of my threads in this mailing-list about Qt, related bugs openened on the issue tracker here, at openembedded and trolltech, a wiki page to help/be helped from other peoples about qt developing etc. etc. I'm planning to write a qt application to test dbus api on FSO, and as I need pan network over bluetooth that will be my first try. As it seems there is nothing available when ready I'll be happy to share it! Only a part of problems i solved are available on mailing lists archives or on the wiki due to lack of time. Great I look forward to seeing it. Consider now that a lot of peoples acts in a similiar manner, so a lot of excited guys are working randomly on somethink, someone is able to use python/gtk, someone is a distro guru etc. etc., they love to fix their own problems and write their scripts that often will be never shared, becouse they do not know that a lot of peoples may need it!!! Exactly. What could a community manager do to make sure these solutions were easily found, easily shared and promoted. So it should be easier to involve community in a application wish list, in a how-to/documentation wish list and in a test suite. These are simple and fun tasks. Wish lists are important we have several. I'm focused on accomplishment lists. Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended
Nishit Dave wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a gtalk presence indicator. Million dollar question: where is gtalk? how do I install and configure it? Install/flash qt extended 4.4.1. Settings-Gtalk settings -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended
On Wed, 08 Oct 2008, Lorn Potter wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a gtalk presence indicator. Million dollar question: where is gtalk? how do I install and configure it? Install/flash qt extended 4.4.1. Settings-Gtalk settings I don't see a Gtalk settings entry in the settings menu in my install! I'm using the original 4.4.1 image. Are you using the one with the zoneinfo updates? Did you install anything extra? Any updates? --gera. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended
Devendra Gera wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2008, Lorn Potter wrote: Nishit Dave wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a gtalk presence indicator. Million dollar question: where is gtalk? how do I install and configure it? Install/flash qt extended 4.4.1. Settings-Gtalk settings I don't see a Gtalk settings entry in the settings menu in my install! I'm using the original 4.4.1 image. Are you using the one with the zoneinfo updates? Did you install anything extra? Any updates? Whoops! I forgot I took it out of the build, as there is no telepathy and gabble available for openmoko. Sorry. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian FSO] GPRS dependencies
I'm having trouble getting GPRS to work in Debian/FSO. If I use the sephora utility it will say connecting.. then disconnected. The gprs_on.sh script at [1] tells me: /org/Freesmartphone/GSM/Device: ActivateContext - which seems good but I can't ping anything. (neither hostname or IP addresses) What packages need to be installed for GPRS to work in debian? Is there anyway to get more verbose output from the script at [1] to diagnose this? Thanks. -Greg [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [u-boot] Wrong image format for bootm command
I have a strange thing with U-boot and Wrong image format for bootm command too. I have installed Debian on /dev/mmcblk0p3 and when I select Boot option in u-boot, the first time it displays this error message and next time it boots correctly. Any idea why it wouldn't boot the first time I select Boot ? Thanks Jérôme On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue is that somehow your u-boot environment, which is stored in a separate partition to u-boot itself (and therefore not reset when you flash u-boot), has been cleared. There's a solution here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Uboot#What_if_I_borked_my_bootloader_environment_and_don.27t_get_a_prompt_anymore.3F Let me know if you have any trouble - I did this myself (on purpose) the other day, so it's still fairly fresh in my mind. Cheers, -Ian On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I'm having trouble booting my neo. I can get into NOR flash, and NAND flash, but the NAND flash only supplies one option: the Boot command. This command prints a message saying Wrong image format for the bootm command. I have grabbed the latest u-boot from: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin I have flashed this into my NAND using dfu-util from my NOR with no errors. My flash image is currently the FDOM image. I was attempting to install debian on my uSD. I updated to the latest uboot, configured it using a script provided at debian.org, and then booted into my flash image and proceeded to install debian. The process halted after partitioning, which then advised to use 'cu' to add some environmental variables to booting. After this, I rebooted and began receiving these errors. I currently cannot boot into anything. I can log into NOR (which seems fine) but I am unable to flash a working NAND (Just that boot option). Thanks! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Erik Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Anyone got Facebook Integration working?
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008, Devendra Gera wrote: Hi, Has anyone got Facebook contacts integration working yet? I haven't tried it, but if it comes time that people want email addresses out of their Facebook friends, I have code that reliably OCRs email addresses out of their emailgen.php image generator. -- Asheesh. -- The qotc (quote of the con) was Liz's: My brain is paged out to my liver. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner for Sale in Denver - $350 or best offer
Authorize.net - Original Message - From: Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 10:36:19 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: FreeRunner for Sale in Denver - $350 or best offer On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:14:46 +0200, Vince M. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will hand deliver if you're in Denver, or ship otherwise. Cash or credit cards accepted. And how exactly are you going to accept credit cards? :-) -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo1973 GTA01 available on eBay
Hi folks, I've been a member of this community for a long time, but in recent months I haven't been able to give back as much as I would like. As a new parent, I'm finding that time is at a premium, and I haven't been able to do nearly as much development as I originally planned. Basically none, I'm afraid. So, reluctantly, I have put up my original (Phase 1) GTA01 up on eBay. I know these units are in short supply, but it's still a nice and perfectly usable device. I hope someone might be interested in picking it up and helping to make sure the community of GTA01 owners is still supported as originally promised. I'm looking at you, Openmoko Inc.! Anwyway, it's item number 300264794992, and the auction ends on Monday, October 14 at 12:41pm PDT. Included is an 8GB MicroSDHC card from Sandisk. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=300264794992 Best wishes! I'll still be following the community closely, and I hope I can dive back in when things have settled down (both at home and in the OM universe), and pitch in a little bit then. -C ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Files and types
Matthias Camenzind skrev: I added today a small mp3 in Documents and /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/SystemRingTones/ after restarting both were found. I think with jpeg it should be the same.I'm sure there exists also an other way, but i don't remeber now. But I found a qoute form Petr Vanek: No, there is a "Rescan" option in the menu while in the "Documents" I can't test it right now, may it helps you. Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:58:09 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Files and types Hi all, I've been trying to view a few jpg images I put on the FR. No matter if they are in the Documents folder in memory or on the uSD, there is no way I get to see even the filename of any of them. Is there a guide or a wiki-page on how the FR recognises files, or am I doing dumb things? Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Die neue Generation der Windows Live Services - jetzt downloaden! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community If it is Qt Extended, the files have to be in a folder named Documents on the SD card or in the home folder ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian size and uSD
On Thursday 02 October 2008 07:43:42 Atilla Filiz wrote: A consistency check with fdisk yielded that the size of the partition and the size of the filesystem do not match, and advised me to run e2fsck. e2fsck said there are no problems. I ran fdisk and e2fsck on FR-debian. gparted on my py sees the partition as 2GB. darn it. Although the process you chose is a good exercise for block copying/boundary resizing and the like ... you could have avoided the problems and had the system running within half an hour using tar :) TBH, it takes me about 15 mins :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
I think you need to install gst-sid or something like that. I don't have my freerunner here at the moment. Just look at the filetype of the ringtone and opkg list | grep filetype watch out for gst/gstreamer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended
Devendra Gera wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2008, Lorn Potter wrote: I don't see a Gtalk settings entry in the settings menu in my install! I'm using the original 4.4.1 image. Are you using the one with the zoneinfo updates? Did you install anything extra? Any updates? Whoops! I forgot I took it out of the build, as there is no telepathy and gabble available for openmoko. Is it coming back? If so, when? This would depend on Openmoko or someone else adding telepathy and friends to the repositories. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] LED state 'blink' suggestions
In the past I'd played around with the LEDs a bit manually, and harking back to that when I poked into /etc/freesmartphone/events/rules.yaml and saw under PowerStatus: SetLed(gta02_power_blue, blink) So I set BOTH to blink, which will produce purple. Unfortunately, it only works out once in a while - usually it's orange-blue-off, orange-blue-off. In order of perceived difficulty: I wanted to suggest adding a control for gta02_power_purp, defined to be both _blue and _orange simultaneously. I also wanted to suggest adding a slow/long blink. And bringing it all together, I wondered: why not allow multiple blinks? IE, if both purp=slow and blue=blink are set, then blink short blue, dark, long purple, dark. If blue=blink and blue=blink are set then blink blue twice, pause, repeat. The capstone would be to automatically detect and deal with situations like: Orange=light blue=blink, ensuring that orange is shut off while blue is on, since blue was requested NOT purple. (This would allow for orange lit while charging, plus blue blinking for unread messages, purple for incoming call, etc) Where are these things handled - in frameworkd or lower? j PS - suggestion for future hardware: Put an RGB LED behind the aux button, instead of just red... Full 24-bit control, 0-255 each red/green/blue. ;) (I realize getting actual 8bpc resolution would likely be more trouble/cost than it's worth, but some variability in intensity would be nice, instead of just on/off - with RGB that'd mean things like smooth blends from red to yellow and back to red, for example) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian FSO] GPRS dependencies
Am Dienstag, den 07.10.2008, 15:44 -0500 schrieb Greg Bonett: I'm having trouble getting GPRS to work in Debian/FSO. If I use the sephora utility it will say connecting.. then disconnected. The gprs_on.sh script at [1] tells me: /org/Freesmartphone/GSM/Device: ActivateContext - which seems good but I can't ping anything. (neither hostname or IP addresses) What packages need to be installed for GPRS to work in debian? Is there anyway to get more verbose output from the script at [1] to diagnose this? Set log_level = DEBUG in [frameworkd] section of /etc/frameworkd.conf, then run frameworkd on the command line to see output. Then, log the syslog to see the pppd output. Then, run the ActivateContext command and post us all the logs. Thanks, :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Raster+FSO] USB Host keyboard problem
Under the latest Rasterman image with FSO repos (frameworkd, zhone, supporting installed) when I switch to USB Host mode (via sysfs, not dbus), it will automount my USB thumbdrive, but doesn't do anything with the keyboard that previously worked, and 'lsusb' is always empty. Module hci_usb is inserted. Output of dmesg for the entire cycle: s3c2410: changing usb to host usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using s3c2410-ohci and address 12 usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice input: CHESEN USB Keyboard as /devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/input/input19 input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [CHESEN USB Keyboard] on usb-s3c24xx-2 input: CHESEN USB Keyboard as /devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.1/input/input20 input: USB HID v1.10 Device [CHESEN USB Keyboard] on usb-s3c24xx-2 usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 12 s3c2410: changing usb to device usb0: full speed config #1: 500 mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet So it sees the keyboard and knows what it is, but no keys work. Is the problem with X? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Freerunner shown at SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany
Hi Nikolaus it is just 2 weeks left until the big event takes place in Munich - where you can get first hand experience with the Freerunner (and many other topics of course). I wish I could make it. Having a job is sometimes such a nuissance... Good luck with the fair! Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Files and types
If it is Qt Extended, the files have to be in a folder named Documents on the SD card or in the home folder Hmm. That's where they are. I'll play around a bit more. Perhaps changing the names will help... Thank you! Paul -- Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. -Alan Alda http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian FSO] GPRS dependencies
Hello, I know it seem to be ca stupid think but try to check these two things. 1. The apn is right for your operator 2. Username / password correct 3. There is still credit on the card. To connect manually you can launch this command: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device ActivateContext your_apn your_username your_password /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: ActivateContext - I used no additional package ... so I can say. Let us to know how it went. Best regards Michele Renda Greg Bonett wrote: I'm having trouble getting GPRS to work in Debian/FSO. If I use the sephora utility it will say connecting.. then disconnected. The gprs_on.sh script at [1] tells me: /org/Freesmartphone/GSM/Device: ActivateContext - which seems good but I can't ping anything. (neither hostname or IP addresses) What packages need to be installed for GPRS to work in debian? Is there anyway to get more verbose output from the script at [1] to diagnose this? Thanks. -Greg [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
