Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 18:17, akurpiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: - Bluetooth is also working now (well I could not really test yet, but at least now it correctly scans available bluetooth devices). - Still no luck with wifi (unable to scan for networks). - I could not have GPS working. I tried with GPSTracker, but it keeps asking for GPS activation, which I had done in Android settings. (note that GPSTracker requires a key from its website, and since I had no keyboard to enter it, I did the settings on the emulator then copy GPSTracker setting files directly into my SD card ) - I tried the demo game Fishocopter. It works... but it uses back button to control the game (so it is Aux button on Neo), and I found no way to exit the game, since Aux button did not anymore end application. Is there a way to kill such an application ? Power button only allowed me to shutdown - Blutetooth is working ( but we still need keyboard for secret pin) No hidd command - we cannot start play with BT keyboard. - Wifi is working by hand: - copy working wpa_supplicant.conf to phone - login via adb shell - use commanddhcpcd eth0 - check and write correct data togetprop and sendprop ... - included web browser not start at all - installed by adb install ... news reader is working !! - I think, important is: keyboard ( virtual or/and bluetooth ) and working web browser Well yes I too was stopped by blutetooth pin without keyboard. I could finally connect adb and get some logs. So : - Browser fails at launch because of Gears. I renamed /data/data/com.android.browser/app_plugins/gears.so into gears.back and the browser could start. I had no internet connectivity, so could not test much further, but zooming, adding pages... worked. - GPS : I tried GPSTracker and AccuTracking apps, and both fail with : GPSTracker : E/LocationManagerService( 614): isProviderEnabled got exception: E/LocationManagerService( 614): java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: provider=gps AccuTracking : D/LocationManagerService( 614): _requestLocationUpdates: listener = [EMAIL PROTECTED] E/LocationManagerService( 614): requestUpdates got exception: E/LocationManagerService( 614): java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: provider=gps E/LocationManagerService( 614):at com.android.server.LocationManagerService._requestLocationUpdates(LocationManagerService.java:759) - I first had mms auto retrieve activated, so I had a lot of exceptions logged about trying to get mms message. Anyway I have no wap config done so it cannot work, but I do not know if enough is implemented / ported for this to work... - I also tried AndNav, but it looks like it fails because there is no google map application in this released image. Is Map application not published by google, or does it need some porting ? log : W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: unable to find class referenced in signature (Lcom/google/android/maps/GeoPoint;) W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: unable to resolve new-instance 134 (Lcom/google/android/maps/GeoPoint;) in Lorg/andnav/ui/Preferences; W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: rejecting opcode 0x22 at 0x0026 W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: rejected Lorg/andnav/ui/Preferences;.getHomeMapPoint (Landroid/app/Activity;)Lcom/google/android/maps/GeoPoint; W/dalvikvm( 1104): Verifier rejected class Lorg/andnav/ui/Preferences; D/AndroidRuntime( 1104): Shutting down VM ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
I have the same question: how do i turn off wifi? I'm using FDOM and after using wifi I do ifdown eth0 and then turn wifi off in Config - Settings and then I turn it off in Config - Services, but the little wifi icon in the top panel still remains and the battery empties about 3 times faster than usual. I have to restart my Freerunner everytime after I use wifi to get the normal state back. Is it really impossible to turn the wifi off? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:35, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was trying to power-on my FR but having the battery removed and didn't succeed! Goes up to a point and then stops! Is a reason for that? I'm able to boot it with powered only by the USB port and without battery. This is very useful to write a new distro on the SD card since the SD card is then easily accessible (and I'm using this a lot to run gentoo on openmoko :p). I only use it to boot a rather tiny system, no GSM, no WiFi, but ssh and X are able to run. -- Damien Thebault ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO][M4] Missing Components?
Hello. On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 23:55, Eric Olson wrote: I believe it depends on which image you install. zhone came installed on the openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk... image I installed. Correct. Next to the fso-image, which we have for a long time, we decided that it would be good to also have leaner images for people that want to use the framework with own applications. So the console and the illume image were created. It's basically: console == minimal system with frameword illume == console + X11 + e-wm + illume fso-image == illume + zhone That's also in line with the statement that the fso-image is not really meant as a stable release for a telephony app. We only have zhone to expose what the framework can do. We are actively thinking how to fade out zhone and move to UI alternatives. regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:35, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To do that I abstracted the existing AT commands into a single function and then called that from (I hope) the phone initialisation, wake from suspend and hanging up or aborting an incoming call. The patch compiled first time but I've discovered that I've left my USB cable behind and so can't test it (luckily I've brought the charger with me!). I've posted this for comments only because: 1) I'm not a programmer 2) I don't know C++ (just B and C) 3) I've no idea if what I've done covers all the necessary points it needs to be set at.. 4) I don't want to risk destroying anyone elses phone! So take a look at what I've done and comment on it please. First, I think that the patch for the header file is missing. And I don't know how this is done elsewhere in the QtE source code, but using the class name to call (even static) methods is not mandatory when it's in the same class (i.e. it's possible to use echoCancel() instead of NeoCallProvider::echoCancel()). Sorry, but I can't comment on other points ;) Regards, -- Damien Thebault ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
I'm sorry, i'm so stupid, but I don't understand what does mean I used AT% SLEEP=2 with FDOM. How do i use it? Where do I write it? On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't use my FR because of bug #1024. Few days ago i flashed qtopia 4.3.2 and patched it with Mwester work ( http://moko.mwester.net/brc.html); it was quite good but I don't like qtopia ... I started Reading http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024 and http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso. I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM (Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.tar.gz and Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and now it works even better than qtopia (IMHO). In more than 12 hours and 1 reboot (to reproduce the experiment - I didn't believe it) no re-registering, receiving call (resume after suspend) and making call 100%. I don't know if it's the good work of FDOM guys or anything else, ... but after today intensive tests I start thinking of FR as a really usable phone !! For anyone interested in ... Hi everybody. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer pisze: You can use the nc/pty combination for that as described in http://unadventure.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/qpe-430-plus-qemu/ Note though that due to some weird bug this doesn't work for multiplexing mode :/ I took a solution mentioned in this article and worked perfectly for my Neo 1973. killall gsmd nc -l -p 5000 /dev/ttySAC0 /dev/ttySAC0 Only conditions is that you have to use Openmoko distro. I'm using latest Debian distro and I have old OM lying on Flash. Under Debian my modem hangs after manually connecting via cu from Phone, so the hack above doesn't work. I suppose the problem is connected with multiplexing bug that Mickey mentioned, as multiplexing in Debian is enabled . So I used OM and it worked well. I can call my Neo's GSM modem from any network machine. Best regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Lead Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital City of Warsaw Registration no.: 287629 Share capital: 1 059 000 PLN Polish VAT and tax ID no.: PL1132219747 Omulewska 27 street 04-128 Warsaw Poland phone +48 22 611 69 23 www.autoguard.pl http://www.autoguard.pl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki: Applications page
Le mardi 11 novembre 2008, BrendaWang a écrit : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications Hi all, Should we reconsider how we list applications in the wiki ? We had a discussion about it on the documentation mailing list, but that was last september. Now things have changed: opkg.org is up and running. I motion that - We keep the current Applications page in its existing format: listing style, one line per application, as comprehensive as possible, organized in sections. - We get rid of the List of X applications pages. Applications listed only there would have to - be moved to opkg.org and added to the Applications page, or - have their own page in the wiki (it's a non-exclusive OR) Minh -- Minh HA DUONG, Chargé de Recherche, CNRS CIRED, Centre International de Recherches sur l'Environnement et le Développement http://minh.haduong.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:23, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahh, but if you have an Internet connection live it will fetch the tiles from Google Maps and plot you on there! To show this get your FR online and then run the Mapping Demo with the sample dataset (just an NMEA log file) and watch it follow the person on Google Maps. What it doesn't do is cache those images, which would be rather neat if you could pre-populate with them, but then it is just a demo and the source is there to be hacked with.. ;-) Though I fear Google Maps terms of use do not allow to cache their maps. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
Dear Community; We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean time, we could rebuild those old releases without mp2/mp3. However, this might not stable due to the missing packages and we have no capability to test them all. So, ladies and gentlemen, please let us know, if you want these old and unstable images or any other ideas. Any feedback are welcome, and please, let us know what you think on this one. Ray Chao Openmoko System Admim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
Dear Community; We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean time, we could rebuild those old releases without mp2/mp3. However, this might not stable due to the missing packages and we have no capability to test them all. So, ladies and gentlemen, please let us know, if you want these old and unstable images or any other ideas. Any feedback are welcome, and please, let us know what you think on this one. Ray Chao Openmoko System Admim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:07:21PM +0800, Ray Chao wrote: Dear Community; We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean time, we could rebuild those old releases without mp2/mp3. However, this might not stable due to the missing packages and we have no capability to test them all. So, ladies and gentlemen, please let us know, if you want these old and unstable images or any other ideas. Any feedback are welcome, and please, let us know what you think on this one. And who says software patents don't ruin user's experience with Free Software All idiots raise their hands :) Rui -- Hail Eris, Hack GNU/Linux! Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:23:19PM +, Thomas White wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0800 Ray Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons? He did: Subject: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue. (...) We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean time, we could rebuild those old releases without mp2/mp3. However, (...) I can give you the rest: http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/ RUi -- Or not. Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:55:35PM +, Sam Kuper wrote: http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/ I understand the MP3 patent issue reasonably well, but couldn't OM use LAME?[1] Same problem. all praise software patents, let them die a painful death. Rui -- Wibble. Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
*sigh* and I suspect I'm not able to disable dimming the screen on FSO Milestone 4 :( https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2115 White Screen of Death (even without suspend) Reported by:RuiSeabra Owned by: openmoko-kernel Priority: normal Milestone: FSO Component: System Software Version:GTA02v5 Severity: major Keywords: WSoD white screen death idle fso gta02v5 Cc: HasPatchForReview: no Blocked By: Estimated Completion (week): PatchReviewResult: Blocking: Reproducible: always Description I've noticed this on the dailies, but now I installed FSO Milestone 4 and it happens as well. Because the WSoD on suspend still isn't solved, I disable suspending. I count on at least screen dimming to save some energy but... now even dimming the screen causes the WSoD after some time (maybe the suspected ten minutes or so). -- Hail Eris! Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
Am 12.11.2008 um 14:55 schrieb Sam Kuper: I understand the MP3 patent issue reasonably well, but couldn't OM use LAME?[1] Users could be asked to compile the software themselves (providing it wasn't made terribly difficult), if that's an issue... Or have I missed the point? (Obviously, Vorbis and FLAC are preferable to MP3, but for those people - and I'm sure there are lots of them - who have MP3-encoded media, a decoder is still needed, even if only to transcode to a freer format.) Sure, users or at least one user can do bitbake gst-plugins-ugly and share the result. This will bring mp3 support back. However it looks like Openmoko can not distribute it, furthermore it seems like even options like Fluendo's MP3 decoder plugin is not helping. Yes, users have the freedom to install the software and plugins they want, Openmoko can not distribute everything though. happy hacking z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FDOM] No desktop laucher icons after update to testing
Hi, I used the latest FDOM, added the desting feed and did an opkg upgrade but now all the launchers are missing although the .desktop files still exist in /usr/share/applications. Any idea how to fix it? Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] No desktop laucher icons after update to testing
Yogiz schrieb: Hi, I used the latest FDOM, added the desting feed and did an opkg upgrade but now all the launchers are missing although the .desktop files still exist in /usr/share/applications. Any idea how to fix it? Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community sounds like the problem in the 2008.9 testing tree. look into the thread with the subject no icons in 2008.testing maybe it helps. http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=no%20icons%202008%20testing#query:no%20icons%202008%20testing+page:1+mid:ylxa4jl3w7sn2ndw+state:results cu beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hildon
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Given that Hildon has been created to bring the desktop experience to the mobile tablet, I doubt that it makes much sense in 480/[EMAIL PROTECTED] It works very well on the n810 which is 800x480, i doubt the extra 160 pixels make THAT much difference. Anyway - i'll try building it at the weekend and report back here. Thanks! - Gunnar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC
Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
multiplexing bug that Mickey mentioned, as multiplexing in Debian is
enabled .
Instead of killall gsmd you want to say killall gsm0710muxd and
ps -eo pid,cmd|grep framework[d]|awk '{print $1}'|xargs kill
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microSD card
Hi, is it possible to use any current microSD card (4 or 8 GB!) and microSDHCs as well? Are any hardware limitations? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD card
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 04:32:08PM +0100, Tony Berth wrote: is it possible to use any current microSD card (4 or 8 GB!) and microSDHCs as well? Are any hardware limitations? The better the microSDHC is, the better the results are. It seems that with a good quality even 16GB have been used (check community archives). Rui -- Hail Eris! Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD card
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to use any current microSD card (4 or 8 GB!) and microSDHCs as well? Are any hardware limitations? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 15:15:38 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: *sigh* and I suspect I'm not able to disable dimming the screen on FSO Milestone 4 :( Of course you are. Read the sample config @ http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
Excellent. I've flashed this now and the screen flashing has indeed gone and it's still just as responsive as before. I was able to activate bluetooth and detect the device with other systems. I could activate GPS (apparently) but there's no GPS app I could find on the default image. S'pose I ought to hunt one down. Still no way to answer calls or type a text message, but I understand that will come next year from Google themselves. Anyone got GPRS going yet? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-android--new-version-with-page-flipping-corrected.-tp1484538p1489695.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 15:15:38 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: *sigh* and I suspect I'm not able to disable dimming the screen on FSO Milestone 4 :( Of course you are. Read the sample config @ http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf Looks like there's a typo on line 76 which I assume should be 'disable = 0': 74 [oeventsd] 75 log_level = DEBUG 76 disbale = 0 77 78 [opimd] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 17:00:14 schrieb Alastair Johnson: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 15:15:38 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: *sigh* and I suspect I'm not able to disable dimming the screen on FSO Milestone 4 :( Of course you are. Read the sample config @ http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/fram eworkd.conf Looks like there's a typo on line 76 which I assume should be 'disable = 0': 74 [oeventsd] 75 log_level = DEBUG 76 disbale = 0 77 78 [opimd] Oh right, thanks. Will fix that. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 03:48:48PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 04:42:06PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 15:15:38 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: *sigh* and I suspect I'm not able to disable dimming the screen on FSO Milestone 4 :( Of course you are. Read the sample config @ http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf hmms... that is overriding xset s off then, I suppose. Thanks for the tip. I only used this section: [odeviced.idlenotifier] # add inut nodes to ignore for idle activity ignoreinput = 2,3,4 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 dim = 20 idle_prelock = 12 lock = 2 suspend = 0 But it doesn't seem to do anything. When I do: echo 2 /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness I can still slightly see the screen, but even after a reboot, if I let frameworkd to do it's job, it gets to 0 A few minutes passed... = White Screen of Death :( /me sobs inconsolably... -- Fnord. Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
Tom, Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons? The short story is that we are in a protracted battle with some patent trolls. Google for Sisvel. In order to get ourselves in a stronger position, we want to make sure no copies/instances/whatever of patent-infested technologies like MP2 and MP3 exist on our servers. Our phones never shipped with end-user MP3 playback features, but we want to use this opportunity to make sure it's not even in some remote place somewhere. For us the important thing is to defend the freedom of our users rather than cripple our phones so that certain things become 'impossible'. So please bear with us, while we go through this house cleaning effort. Best Regards, Wolfgang On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Thomas White wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0800 Ray Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons? Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
testing Jalimo on Openmoko
Dear all, Apologies for cross-posting, but I wanted to catch both the Jalimo and Openmoko communities in one go. I've been testing gvSIG on Openmoko Jalimo [1], but we've come up with a problem that seems to be either caused by myself doing something stupid, or by Jalimo working slightly differently across different Openmoko distributions. The problem is this: gvSIG mobile is originally tested on a FreeRunner running Jalimo on Openmoko 2007.2, as part of it's operation you can select to open a file, this then produces a open location dialogue. The same does not happen, however, on any other version of Openmoko I've tried. To test on various platforms, I've created a simple application. You will need to install from Jalimo: cacao, classpath and clsspath-gtk I've followed the wiki instructions for this: https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/OpenMoko You can then: opkg install http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/resource/java-test_0.1_armv4t.ipk This will place a little javatest button in your installed apps menu. Clicking on it, *should* open an open file dialogue. It doesn't work on 2008.9, but why is that? If anyone else is able to test I'd be greatly appreciative, and even more so if an answer can be found, even if it is just me being an idiot! Many thanks in advance, Joseph [1] http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9 , FDOM] gsm modem and suspend
yes that's what i believe but problem is i don't know how the distribution goes to do the suspend exactly, any references to how suspend is being called in om2008.9 ? well, since apm -s already is faulty, you could check /etc/apm/ for scripts called at suspend. does the same occur in debian arne? nope. in fact i never had those heavy suspend/resume problems at all. only 2007.2 used sometimes (rather seldom) to fail -- pwr button was lit but anything else was not working: screen blank, ssh impossible. with debian i have a fully working suspend/resume for ages now (*touching wood*) -- and since it is my daily phone i couldn't do without it. weeks ago i had a slightly similar issue, the fr not going to suspends for minutes after pressing pwr. looking into the log revealed that calls to the gsm timed out and the resulting exceptions were not catched -- putting try/catch around solved that. with newer fso version i did not experience taht anymore. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:34:55PM +, Thomas White wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:45:12 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can give you the rest: http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/ Oh, I got that far. I'm curious to know what's changed in particular to prompt the sudden removal: has some kind of legal threat been made by someone? It seems we even got the name of the patent troll (see another mail in this thread), which is quite a lot more info than the usual in this cases. Frequently there's some secrecy about the case... Rui -- Pzat! Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very professional :-/ Ray Chao wrote: Dear Community; We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean time, we could rebuild those old releases without mp2/mp3. However, this might not stable due to the missing packages and we have no capability to test them all. So, ladies and gentlemen, please let us know, if you want these old and unstable images or any other ideas. Any feedback are welcome, and please, let us know what you think on this one. Ray Chao Openmoko System Admim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hildon
Given that Hildon has been created to bring the desktop experience to the mobile tablet, I doubt that it makes much sense in 480/[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's in OE though, so if you're interested, you can try to build it. Cheers, -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Hildon
Hi, I wonder if anyone knows anything about running Hildon on the FreeRunner? For those of you not in the know, Hildon is the desktop-framework and application launcher used for instance on the N810. It's GTK based and open-source of course. See screenshot etc on wikipedia [1] Cheers, - Gunnar [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hildon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no icons in 2008.testing
the icon problem should be solved. try - opkg -force-depends remove illume-config illume-config-asu opkg install illume-theme-asu stop the xserver remove ~/.e start the xserver - with the illume theme there is another problem. it is crashing all the time, until you change the engine. so for the illume package you need to do this: - opkg -force-depends remove illume-config illume-config-asu opkg install illume-config-illume illume-theme-illume stop the xserver remove ~/.e start the xserver go into the configuration page (with the icon in the upper left corner and not with the settings icon on the desktop) select engine select the software engine (not the default selected software_16). close all restart xserver - the background is now in grey and the menue drop down is not really what i want, but i have querty again. and i have working icons. so i could use my phone again. but they still have to go their way until 2008.11 :) b John Lee schrieb: -- the only supported combination is illume-theme-asu + illume if you got stuffs like illume-config, illume-config-asu, please remove them. illume-theme-asu comes with both config and theme files. it does NOT include 'qwerty' button and 'wrench' config. I have also seen the illume default combination works: illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume notice that config and theme comes in different packages here. it DOES include qwerty and wrench. the way to switch between different sets of config and theme is to set it in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile . this is ugly and will/should be solved in upstream soon. - Xavier Cremaschi schrieb: A recent update to testing showed this bug still occurs in my situation. So I just wanted to share a little update relative to downgrade commands from my previous mail : because opkg accepts more than one package's name as argument, we can speed up the whole thing by making far less calls. Instead of : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg -force-depends remove $r done which is sequential, you can do : cat down.txt | xargs opkg -force-depends remove Instead of : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg install $r done you can do : cat down.txt | xargs opkg install Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
2008/11/12 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:23:19PM +, Thomas White wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0800 Ray Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons? He did: Subject: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue. (...) We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean time, we could rebuild those old releases without mp2/mp3. However, (...) I can give you the rest: http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/ I understand the MP3 patent issue reasonably well, but couldn't OM use LAME?[1] Users could be asked to compile the software themselves (providing it wasn't made terribly difficult), if that's an issue... Or have I missed the point? (Obviously, Vorbis and FLAC are preferable to MP3, but for those people - and I'm sure there are lots of them - who have MP3-encoded media, a decoder is still needed, even if only to transcode to a freer format.) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAME ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:48:47PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 17:21:42 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: Of course you are. Read the sample config @ http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/fr ameworkd.conf hmms... that is overriding xset s off then, I suppose. Thanks for the tip. I only used this section: [odeviced.idlenotifier] # add inut nodes to ignore for idle activity ignoreinput = 2,3,4 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 dim = 20 idle_prelock = 12 lock = 2 suspend = 0 But it doesn't seem to do anything. When I do: echo 2 /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness I can still slightly see the screen, but even after a reboot, if I let frameworkd to do it's job, it gets to 0 Even with lock = 0 ? hms... I thought only suspend = 0 would be needed since I'd prefer the screen to auto lock. But if currently auto lock == dim = 0 then I will see what lock = 0 results in and report back as soon as I know. Rui -- Pzat! Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
It was indeed the WiFi. I had to delete the entire configuration in order to shut it down :S Kishore wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2008 1:15:35 am Pander wrote: QtE also has way better battery life than anything else I've tried - I can go 36 hours or more without having to plug in the phone. really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2 with mwester's kernel. Be doubly sure that wifi is not enabled. If ever once enabled, you need to reboot or wifi never really goes off even if the GUI says so. With wifi on I get about 5-6 hrs but otherwise I echo Warren's experience. Battery comfortably last over 48 hrs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Margo Koppelmann wrote: I'm sorry, i'm so stupid, but I don't understand what does mean I used AT%SLEEP=2 with FDOM. How do i use it? Where do I write it? *assuming you're using 2008.08, 2008.09 or FDOM, and that you have gsm0710muxd installed and running* (this may be true by default on FDOM), my instructions and noddy little chat script at http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Calypso may be helpful. if you don't have gsm0710muxd installed (and qpe configured to use it), these instructions will be of no use. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)
Though I fear Google Maps terms of use do not allow to cache their maps. There's OpenStreetMap's, then :) -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 18:54:07 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:48:47PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 17:21:42 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: Of course you are. Read the sample config @ http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/exampl e/fr ameworkd.conf hmms... that is overriding xset s off then, I suppose. Thanks for the tip. I only used this section: [odeviced.idlenotifier] # add inut nodes to ignore for idle activity ignoreinput = 2,3,4 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 dim = 20 idle_prelock = 12 lock = 2 suspend = 0 But it doesn't seem to do anything. When I do: echo 2 /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness I can still slightly see the screen, but even after a reboot, if I let frameworkd to do it's job, it gets to 0 Even with lock = 0 ? hms... I thought only suspend = 0 would be needed since I'd prefer the screen to auto lock. Unfortunately it's actually locking the screen which will provoke the WSOD since Harald brought us the power-saving patch. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:54:07PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:48:47PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 17:21:42 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: Of course you are. Read the sample config @ http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/fr ameworkd.conf hmms... that is overriding xset s off then, I suppose. Thanks for the tip. I only used this section: [odeviced.idlenotifier] # add inut nodes to ignore for idle activity ignoreinput = 2,3,4 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 dim = 20 idle_prelock = 12 lock = 2 suspend = 0 But it doesn't seem to do anything. When I do: echo 2 /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness I can still slightly see the screen, but even after a reboot, if I let frameworkd to do it's job, it gets to 0 Even with lock = 0 ? hms... I thought only suspend = 0 would be needed since I'd prefer the screen to auto lock. But if currently auto lock == dim = 0 then I will see what lock = 0 results in and report back as soon as I know. meh... same bad result :( Rui -- Or not. Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
El día Tuesday, November 11, 2008 a las 08:10:24PM +0530, Ramprasad Rajendran escribió: 2008/11/11 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I'm using the Illume keyboard as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume one question remains: the Wiki says «Then switch keyboard from None to Default in Illume's preferences.» Where I do that exactly? There is a small wrench on the top of the pull down menu that lets you change illume's preferences. You should also disable the default keyboard as mentioned in the wiki (adding export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia) Thanks for all the hints I got, but they do not target my real problem: With configured Illume keyboard the 'querty' icon brings up the keyboard which has three layouts (and one can toggle between with the small symbol above the keypad): Default / Numbers / Terminal; when it first comes up it is set to the 'Default' one and not to 'Numbers' or 'Terminal'; later the 'querty' icon brings up the one last used; how can I configure that the 'Terminal' is the one which comes up with the PIN dialog? because the 'Default' one is pretty much useless to enter any PIN code (it has no numbers on the keyboard) and the 'Enter' of the PIN dialog is very near the symbol for switching the keyboard layout ... any idea? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
* Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 19:15]: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:54:07PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:48:47PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 17:21:42 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: Of course you are. Read the sample config @ http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/fr ameworkd.conf hmms... that is overriding xset s off then, I suppose. Thanks for the tip. I only used this section: [odeviced.idlenotifier] # add inut nodes to ignore for idle activity ignoreinput = 2,3,4 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 dim = 20 idle_prelock = 12 lock = 2 suspend = 0 But it doesn't seem to do anything. When I do: echo 2 /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness I can still slightly see the screen, but even after a reboot, if I let frameworkd to do it's job, it gets to 0 Even with lock = 0 ? hms... I thought only suspend = 0 would be needed since I'd prefer the screen to auto lock. But if currently auto lock == dim = 0 then I will see what lock = 0 results in and report back as soon as I know. meh... same bad result :( IIRC setting also idle_prelock = 0 did the trick for me Rui Mok ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] White Screen of Death growing worse and worse for me :(
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 07:52:34PM +0100, Klaus Kurzmann wrote: * Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 19:15]: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:54:07PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:48:47PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Wednesday 12 November 2008 17:21:42 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: Of course you are. Read the sample config @ http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/fr ameworkd.conf hmms... that is overriding xset s off then, I suppose. Thanks for the tip. I only used this section: [odeviced.idlenotifier] # add inut nodes to ignore for idle activity ignoreinput = 2,3,4 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 dim = 20 idle_prelock = 12 lock = 2 suspend = 0 But it doesn't seem to do anything. When I do: echo 2 /sys/class/backlight/pcf50633-bl/brightness I can still slightly see the screen, but even after a reboot, if I let frameworkd to do it's job, it gets to 0 Even with lock = 0 ? hms... I thought only suspend = 0 would be needed since I'd prefer the screen to auto lock. But if currently auto lock == dim = 0 then I will see what lock = 0 results in and report back as soon as I know. meh... same bad result :( IIRC setting also idle_prelock = 0 did the trick for me Thank you Klaus! It did the trick for me too. Of course WSoD needs to go away asap, but it's much better to have a light dim than the full brighness :) Rui -- Kallisti! Today is Sweetmorn, the 24th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO M4] fresh install questions
Hi I don't get it ... I downloaded from http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone4/ the uimage and the fso-image (even tried both the jss2, the jss2.summary and the plain fso-illume image), but I don't see anywhere an alarm app (nor even a clock app) like mentioned in another thread, suspending doesn't work but I also don't have the WSOD problem. So, am I doing something wrong here? Did I install wrong/old things? Do I need the modules as well? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] fresh install questions
Hi, I am having the same issues. As soon as the phone suspends I have to remove the battery. There does not seem to be a clock module included with openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080911-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary since switching on the clock module in the modules submenu of the wrench (pressing the icon in the middle of the upside screen and then the wrench icon appearing in the left corner). Tichy was not very stable as well, but as stated in the announcement the focus at the moment seems to be the framework that this is build on. Cheers Bernhard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:45:12 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can give you the rest: http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/ Oh, I got that far. I'm curious to know what's changed in particular to prompt the sudden removal: has some kind of legal threat been made by someone? Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD card
2008/11/13 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to use any current microSD card (4 or 8 GB!) and microSDHCs as well? Are any hardware limitations? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards i haven't seen anything recently about the microsd corruption bug - has that been fixed yet in standard kernels? does the stock debian kernel now have the fix in, or do i still need to replace it with one from om? and what about the kernel in 2008.9? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0800 Ray Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons? Tom -- Thomas White Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy Electron Microscopy Group (PhD Student) University of Cambridge / Downing College ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LSCD project
Hello Carlson, Please leave msg for us, so we could provide the further information to you. We will also update the information, please visit our website again. Thank you.:-) WLRobot How much are the biped frames? with and without servos. Where do I purchase the equipment? The local distributor does not seem to have their site finished. http://www.wlrobot.com/contacts.html ? The only product I've seen for sale is the servo kit on ebay. Am I missing something? -src -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/LSCD-project-tp1460608p1491465.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:24:24AM +0200, Margo Koppelmann wrote: I have the same question: how do i turn off wifi? I'm using FDOM and after using wifi I do ifdown eth0 and then turn wifi off in Config - Settings and then I turn it off in Config - Services, but the little wifi icon in the top panel still remains and the battery empties about 3 times faster than usual. I have to restart my Freerunner everytime after I use wifi to get the normal state back. Is it really impossible to turn the wifi off? I don't know exactly how it works under FDOM/2008.x, but under FSO you have the possibility to power off the devices (not only the wifi, also GSM, GPS and bluetooth) over D-Bus. I think there is a similar way in FDOM/2008.x. Another possible is to power it down manually (something under /proc/..., I have the exact path not in mind). For the power down of all devices which are able to send/receive I have written today a prototype as shell script and an more advanced in python. Is the first step toward the flight modus. Is there any plan in this direction? A few months ago I have read about it in the WIKI. Regards Alex pgp5oQCEUYEKD.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
Oh, I'm really sorry. I read your mails in the wrong order. Pardon, no hard feelings please. ;) Tilman Baumann wrote: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very professional :-/ Ray Chao wrote: Dear Community; We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/ We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean time, we could rebuild those old releases without mp2/mp3. However, this might not stable due to the missing packages and we have no capability to test them all. So, ladies and gentlemen, please let us know, if you want these old and unstable images or any other ideas. Any feedback are welcome, and please, let us know what you think on this one. Ray Chao Openmoko System Admim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new Game for freerunner: xlogical
Hi All, I just finished the recipe for Xlogical based on Aapo's patches and while we wait until the recipe gets merged to OE/OM, I've put a binary package online for you all to enjoy. I added music, sounds and a wrapper script that rotates the screen to landscape. Right now the music is enabled by default, but I can disable that if that is unwanted behaviour. package is here : http://3v8.net/~sander/openmoko/xlogical_1.0-8-r0.1_armv4t.ipk Let me know what you think. grtz, Sander On Friday 07 November 2008 13:47:16 Aapo Rantalainen wrote: I'll try to create a bitbake recipe for it so it can track the distro(s). Good Did you disable the sound because it was choppy? (like I experienced with Pingus) I did't even test sounds. I think games played on phone should be silent. (If somebody wants musics and sound effects, It can be default disabled, but player has option to enabel it.) -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no icons in 2008.testing
A recent update to testing showed this bug still occurs in my situation. So I just wanted to share a little update relative to downgrade commands from my previous mail : because opkg accepts more than one package's name as argument, we can speed up the whole thing by making far less calls. Instead of : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg -force-depends remove $r done which is sequential, you can do : cat down.txt | xargs opkg -force-depends remove Instead of : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg install $r done you can do : cat down.txt | xargs opkg install Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
the 'querty' icon brings up keyboard, with most recently used layout; how can I configure the 'Terminal' is the one which comes up with the PIN dialog ? I have the same question. I would like the Terminal layout to always show when I use the terminal. So is there a way to tell illume's keyboard: THIS application uses THAT layout ? Minh -- Minh HA DUONG, Chargé de Recherche, CNRS CIRED, Centre International de Recherches sur l'Environnement et le Développement http://minh.haduong.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
- used kill to kill the old running version i experienced that sometimes myself, too. kill seems not to be the best way. looks like some cleaning up is not done and the frameworkd is left in confusion. restart frameworkd completely and afterwards opp (i modified runlevel 2 for things like that: kill everything fso/x related), thus doing init 2 wait a few seconds for everything to go down init 3 via ssh restarts all fancy stuff w/o much ado. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
Hi list, Can you just provide the kernel? Because I have to flash FDOM but the testing kernel does not work with that. Levy 'Lewis' S. Google Talk! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 12913566 MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
Hi, Joachim Breitner schrieb: Hi, Am Dienstag, den 11.11.2008, 19:54 +0100 schrieb Peter Mogensen: I just wanted to congratulate the FSO team for their new images. For the first time I have perfect sound over GSM. No echo, no buzz. same here, buzz and echo seem to be gone. Although I think the other side’s volume is a bit low here, and vica versa – what do you think? GTA02: I cannot hear an echo, but there's a 1s delay. Buzz is still there. For my ears, volume seems too low. GTA01: Decent volume, no echo. no buzz, almost no delay. Marc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?
try `iwconfig eth0 power on txpower off` to minimise power consumption, and the inverse `iwconfig eth0 power off txpower auto` to turn it back on. While not removing power, it certainly reduces consumption. Also, while using wireless with power saving on sounds good when running on battery, Ive found it rather flakey. The above is minimal - for me it was better to set other parameters such as channel number and SSID when powering up as well. BillK On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 22:18 +0100, Alex Oberhauser wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:24:24AM +0200, Margo Koppelmann wrote: I have the same question: how do i turn off wifi? I'm using FDOM and after using wifi I do ifdown eth0 and then turn wifi off in Config - Settings and then I turn it off in Config - Services, but the little wifi icon in the top panel still remains and the battery empties about 3 times faster than usual. I have to restart my Freerunner everytime after I use wifi to get the normal state back. Is it really impossible to turn the wifi off? I don't know exactly how it works under FDOM/2008.x, but under FSO you have the possibility to power off the devices (not only the wifi, also GSM, GPS and bluetooth) over D-Bus. I think there is a similar way in FDOM/2008.x. Another possible is to power it down manually (something under /proc/..., I have the exact path not in mind). For the power down of all devices which are able to send/receive I have written today a prototype as shell script and an more advanced in python. Is the first step toward the flight modus. Is there any plan in this direction? A few months ago I have read about it in the WIKI. Regards Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr] SHR image released
Anyone? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR Images: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/ It's pretty, seems stable, is *fast* (for me faster than FDOM and FSO M3 for sure) -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
The SHR image was NOT released. This is a preview only, we didn't release it yet because we feel it's not complete enough for a day to day usage basis. There's also some issues with frameworkd (even MS4, sad to say), which we would like to settle before any official release. We would also like to build a graceful failure feature to avoid lots of complaining about my contacts app crashed ! just because the sim PIN wasn't registered yet :-). I use it on a day to day basis myself, it's quite stable, and I'm enjoying it, but please do not consider this as a release. This isn't. It's merely a preview. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Downloading the preview right now I will try to test it tomorrow thank you guys :) El jue, 13-11-2008 a las 01:08 +0100, Julien Cassignol escribió: The SHR image was NOT released. This is a preview only, we didn't release it yet because we feel it's not complete enough for a day to day usage basis. There's also some issues with frameworkd (even MS4, sad to say), which we would like to settle before any official release. We would also like to build a graceful failure feature to avoid lots of complaining about my contacts app crashed ! just because the sim PIN wasn't registered yet :-). I use it on a day to day basis myself, it's quite stable, and I'm enjoying it, but please do not consider this as a release. This isn't. It's merely a preview. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
It's pretty, seems stable, is *fast* (for me faster than FDOM and FSO M3 for sure) And is the very first time I can receive calls with suspended phone. Neither FDOM or Qtopia/Qtextended allowed it to me (#1024, I suppose) Is far from perfect, but is the first time an Openmoko based distro gave me so good impression. Now I'll give FSO M4 a try. After all, SHR is based on FSO... -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:13 AM, David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I'll give FSO M4 a try. After all, SHR is based on FSO... SHR is based on frameworkd, and by extension on FSO, but we modified a bunch of things. For instance, our default conf includes the ti_calypso_deep_sleep feature (#1024 fix). It also logs on file by default, to have good bug reports. Even though the whole credit goes to the FSO team, we worked a bit on making this packaged to have a fully working distro, easy to use, from the start. After all, as Mickeyl said, FSO/Zhone are demos for their work :-) So even if, to our eyes, this isn't quite yet it (stable, easy to use, reliable, simple, beautiful), as there's still a bunch of things to do, we're eagerly going towards this, and we're waiting for people to come over and help. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] **No** SHR image released. Only a preview.
El Xoves, 13 de Novembro de 2008, Julien Cassignol escribió: The SHR image was NOT released. I'm sorry very much. I was so happy with a simple thing like receiving calls with phone suspended, that I had to say it on community list. ;) My fault... However, congratulations!. You're doing a very very good job! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO M4] What a wonderfull world
Hi Christoph, Christoph Siegenthaler schrieb: Dito. There's just one thing that's kind of a showstopper for me. I can't receive sms. Sorry that I can't provide any useful data except for the fact that I didn't receive a test-sms I sent to my number. Anyone experiencing the same? This was the case with at least two of the previous fso-images. I'm not even sure if I ever got a msg using FSO. I observed the phone ring on incoming sms but zhone didn't show the message. After relaunching zhone the message was there. (GTA02) Marc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
- David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And is the very first time I can receive calls with suspended phone. Neither FDOM or Qtopia/Qtextended allowed it to me (#1024, I suppose) I'm sure I've received calls and SMS's with my phone suspended with both Qtopia (4.3.3 snapshot) and QT Extended (4.4.2). -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
I really appreciate all the work and suggestions on this project. This panel makes a great addition to zhone and almost eliminates the need to have any additional panels running (such as fbpanel or gnome-panel) for normal phone usage. One question, is there an easy way via gui or .conf file to adjust the size of the panel. I have fat fingers and the icons are a bit small for me to hit without grabbing a stylus. If the panel was say, 40p tall then I think it would be a bit more accessible. Thats the size I currently have fbpanel set to. James arne anka wrote: - used kill to kill the old running version i experienced that sometimes myself, too. kill seems not to be the best way. looks like some cleaning up is not done and the frameworkd is left in confusion. restart frameworkd completely and afterwards opp (i modified runlevel 2 for things like that: kill everything fso/x related), thus doing init 2 wait a few seconds for everything to go down init 3 via ssh restarts all fancy stuff w/o much ado. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--openmoko-panel-plugin-0.5-tp1461846p1492556.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)
- Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though I fear Google Maps terms of use do not allow to cache their maps. Hmm, I'd not heard about that, the legal information on the Google site is the usual unclear legalese that, if taken literally, could mean that any browser that caches the images could infringe them (depending on which countries data you are looking at). http://www.google.com/help/legalnotices_maps.html They've tried to summarise it here, but it's still not that clear to me: http://www.google.com/help/terms_maps.html So probably the safest thing to do then is not use them.. :-( -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2
- Damien Thébault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Daniel, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:35, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So take a look at what I've done and comment on it please. First, I think that the patch for the header file is missing. Er, that might be because I didn't modify the header file, oops! Bad Chris, no biscuit. I'll sort that out next. And I don't know how this is done elsewhere in the QtE source code, but using the class name to call (even static) methods is not mandatory when it's in the same class (i.e. it's possible to use echoCancel() instead of NeoCallProvider::echoCancel()). Not knowing C++ I thought I'd play safe and fully qualify it everywhere to avoid confusion. The fact that g++ 4.3.2 didn't whinge about anything gave me some confidence I'd not done anything mindbendingly stupid there.. ;-) Sorry, but I can't comment on other points ;) No worries, thanks for taking the time to look and comment! cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qt Extended] [RFC] Patch for comments *only* to enable echo suppression in 4.4.2
- Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Damien Thébault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Daniel, Sorry *Damien*! I blame it on the jet lag, this is my third timezone in 4 days.. Chris (now in Austin, Texas) -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9 , FDOM] gsm modem and suspend
i did a couple of tests in FDOM yesterday to find out what's really causing this problem. i changed that echo 1 blah to gsm power_on in qtopia89 in /etc/X11/XSession.. the results were not so random but sometimes didn't make sense, couldn't come to an exact conclusion but it seems like qtopia is behind all this. and a hundred other bugs is behind that QPE. it's time to move on ! switchin to debian :) and never comin back to om200x.x unless qtopia gets out of there :p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki: Applications page
Minh Ha Duong ??: Le mardi 11 novembre 2008, BrendaWang a écrit : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications Hi all, Should we reconsider how we list applications in the wiki ? Yes, I agree. We had a discussion about it on the documentation mailing list, but that was last september. Now things have changed: opkg.org is up and running. I motion that - We keep the current Applications page in its existing format: listing style, one line per application, as comprehensive as possible, organized in sections. - We get rid of the List of X applications pages. Applications listed only there would have to - be moved to opkg.org and added to the Applications page, or - have their own page in the wiki (it's a non-exclusive OR) I would like to keep this page. People who want to find applications can use this page. And add any applications link here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Audio_Applications If they want to know the detail about any application of this page, all they need to do is press the link.Then can link to its detail page ex: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko-mediaplayer2 Then, I would like to delete pages like following: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Games http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Audio_Applications ... It looks redundant. Any other ideas? Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki: Applications page
Le jeudi 13 novembre 2008, BrendaWang a écrit : I would like to keep this page. People who want to find applications can use this page. And add any applications link here. If you are talking about /Applications, me too. Then, I would like to delete pages like following: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Games http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/List_of_Audio_Applications Me too. Of course, we delete only AFTER all the applications listed are on the main /Applications page and in the opkg.org database. So it seems we agree ? Any different views ? Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
