Ubuntu ipkg package

2008-11-29 Thread Pander
Follow or contribute to the packaging of ipkg for Ubuntu here:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/303223

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Re: A light for the Freerunner

2008-11-29 Thread Patrick Beck
Hello,

it's not comparable to this solution ;) This two leds are twice or more
brighter than the display.

with kind regards

Patrick

Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 12:42 +0900 schrieb William Kenworthy:
 I use flashlight - turns the screen backlight up to max.  Touch to
 turn off ( return screen to previous setting).  Its actually quite
 bright and useful, and no soldering involved.
 
 BillK
 
 
 On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 22:56 +0100, Patrick Beck wrote:
  Hello,
  
  because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i
  added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has
  any improvements for me :D
  
  Here you can find a wiki article about the light 
  http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light
  
  And here two videos
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE
  
  It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea
  and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of
  devices :)
  
  At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;)
  
  Have fun!
  
  with kind regards
  
  Patrick Beck
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Re: OpenMooCow 0.2

2008-11-29 Thread Thomas White
William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tried to install it on 2008.9 - required new glib which predictably,
 killed some other apps - and on top doesnt run (enlightenment error).
 Will have to wait for possibly 2008.12 (?) until it can be used unless
 you are on another distro.

Nyarg, really sorry about that, and thanks for reporting it.  I've
made a small change to the dependencies and a new package is now
available:

openmoocow_0.2-r2_armv4t.ipk from the usual place:
http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/

Tom

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Re: OpenMooCow 0.2

2008-11-29 Thread Thomas White
Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I took this as an encouragement to hack slightly on your code, so I
 did a slightly larger modification.

Looks good.  Just one comment: O_NONBLOCK doesn't seem to be honoured
for the Neo accelerometers (hence the select() stuff).  See this post
on OM-Devel (and the responses):

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003443.html

I've added this to my Git tree for inclusion in later releases.  For
the purposes of the Debian package, are you happy to have this included
from your own branch in the Debian Git repository, or would it be less
complicated if I did a new upstream release with the HDAPS stuff?

Many thanks,

Tom

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Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix

2008-11-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do  27. November 2008 schrieb arne anka:
  I don know why, and I'm not shure if it was solved by the changes I have
  made, but after time and timezone was correct fso-gpsd fixed in less then
  2min.
 
 if that's really the cause it needs fixing -- my fr is always about 3 min  
 behind in time when rebooted and i do not always have a ntp source  
 available to sync.
 wasn't there recently something about fso feeding the u-blox data on  
 startup and that the data needs to match time and so on? then this routine  
 needs to be more tolerant.

Feeding GPS with correct data about recent sat positions isn't something you 
can make more tolerant.
Either the GPS knows where to look for the sats (due to accurate data being 
supplied by AGPS), or it needs to scan all possibilities to find where to get 
an actual signal (which may take quite a while).

cheers
jOERG

[[position and where used herein as a synonym for frequency/channel. 
Though the position in space also needs to be known to calculate exact 
GPS-data]]


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Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix

2008-11-29 Thread arne anka
 Either the GPS knows where to look for the sats (due to accurate data  
 being supplied by AGPS)

true, o pharao -- but afair the issue was, that no fix at all was obtained.
and if that is caused by whatever feeds the ublox with agps data, the  
feeding routine has to be more tolerant, ie issue a fallback to scanning  
instead of solely relying on agps.

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Re: OpenMooCow 0.2

2008-11-29 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 13:46 + schrieb Thomas White:
 Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I took this as an encouragement to hack slightly on your code, so I
  did a slightly larger modification.
 
 Looks good.  Just one comment: O_NONBLOCK doesn't seem to be honoured
 for the Neo accelerometers (hence the select() stuff).  See this post
 on OM-Devel (and the responses):
 
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003443.html
 
 I've added this to my Git tree for inclusion in later releases.

Nice. Is your git tree publicly available?

 For the purposes of the Debian package, are you happy to have this included
 from your own branch in the Debian Git repository, or would it be less
 complicated if I did a new upstream release with the HDAPS stuff?

I’d prefer to wait for a new upstream release – I try to avoid having a
different version in Debian than elsewhere if possible. But I’m
perfectly fine if you’ll just release it whenever you would have
released anyways.

Greetings,
Joachim
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Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix

2008-11-29 Thread Davide Scaini
...right now i'm still no able to get a fix, so maybe it's better for me to
downgrade to 4.0 if this is the only solution (hoping that debian mantains
the right enumeration... 0.4.3 is my current version).
d

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:01 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Either the GPS knows where to look for the sats (due to accurate data
  being supplied by AGPS)

 true, o pharao -- but afair the issue was, that no fix at all was obtained.
 and if that is caused by whatever feeds the ublox with agps data, the
 feeding routine has to be more tolerant, ie issue a fallback to scanning
 instead of solely relying on agps.

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[Debian] TSLIB_TSDEVICE no longer getting set

2008-11-29 Thread Christopher J. White
I've been trying to get gestikk [1] working, a mouse-gestures program
that turns mouse gestures into keystrokes at the window manager level.
This seems ideal for finger gestures to do things like scrolling,
paging, etc in a generic fashion.

After working through package dependencies, and building a needed python
module, I got it fulling installed and actually managed to get it to run
and put it's icon in the tray.  Unfortunately, it requires
right-click...i don't have the right-click tslib patch installed (yet),
so I reran the program in a mode that allows configuration.  

As soon as I did that, I seemed to lose pointer input.  /etc/init.d/nodm
restart, reboot, all have no effect.

I have traced it down to TSLIB_TSDEVICE no longer getting set.  If I
manually export this set properly, and do startx, it works, I get my
pointer back.

I am running X as a normal user, but the same happens when reverting
back to root as well.

So, what happened?  I can't figure out how /etc/init.d/nodm is supposed
to setup environment variables that tslib needs. 

...cj

[safire] Christopher J. White

[1] http://gestikk.reichbier.de/en/



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Audio format

2008-11-29 Thread Pander
Hi all,

What is the best audio format for offering ringtones, notifications,
etc.? I'd prefer .ogg because of its easy license and small file size.
The .wav and .mp3 I'd shun for these reasons. Is this correct and is the
phone capable of using .ogg as ringtones and notifications in both the
OM part and the Qt part.

Thanks,

Pander

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Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix

2008-11-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa  29. November 2008 schrieb arne anka:
  Either the GPS knows where to look for the sats (due to accurate data  
  being supplied by AGPS)
 
 true, o pharao -- but afair the issue was, that no fix at all was obtained.
 and if that is caused by whatever feeds the ublox with agps data, the  
 feeding routine has to be more tolerant, ie issue a fallback to scanning  
 instead of solely relying on agps.

AGPS is *not* disabling normal non-A operation of GPS (means there is no 
need for a paricular fallback scheme - GPS starts and operates 
in fallback-mode all the time, A just updates a few variables more 
quickly than the GPS-chip would do anyway, so the chip finds his 
channels/sats/fix. Even if we would write completely bogus info to the chip, 
it wouldn't be worse off than without AGPS and starting on default values.
btw: It seems to me as if 3 minutes difference in time shouldn't make any 
trouble.


cheers
jOERG


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Re: A light for the Freerunner

2008-11-29 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi patrick, thanks for the link. You've encouraged me to create a much
improved (?) version of my usb button. It'll be on planet.openmoko.org
on monday.
Cheers, j

On 28/11/2008, Patrick Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i
 added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has
 any improvements for me :D

 Here you can find a wiki article about the light
 http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light

 And here two videos
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE

 It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea
 and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of
 devices :)

 At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;)

 Have fun!

 with kind regards

 Patrick Beck


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Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix

2008-11-29 Thread arne anka
 AGPS is *not* disabling normal non-A operation of GPS (means there is

well, agps doesn't come from heaven -- it has to be programmed somehow.  
and i simply think it possible that there something goes wrong.

 btw: It seems to me as if 3 minutes difference in time shouldn't make any
 trouble.

atm there's no fix at all, neither after 3 nor after 10 minutes.
the log is full of
Discarded data not UBX ...
and ubx seems, afair, to be the format the agps uses/needes.

so far there's no statement of the fso developers, what that means -- and  
according to the git ogpsd wasn't changed for more than a month now, so  
downgrading seems not really sensible.

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Re: A light for the Freerunner

2008-11-29 Thread Patrick Beck
Hello Joseph,

that sounds great. I look forward :D

with kind regards

Patrick

Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 17:43 +0030 schrieb Joseph Reeves:
 Hi patrick, thanks for the link. You've encouraged me to create a much
 improved (?) version of my usb button. It'll be on planet.openmoko.org
 on monday.
 Cheers, j
 
 On 28/11/2008, Patrick Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i
  added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has
  any improvements for me :D
 
  Here you can find a wiki article about the light
  http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light
 
  And here two videos
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE
 
  It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea
  and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of
  devices :)
 
  At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;)
 
  Have fun!
 
  with kind regards
 
  Patrick Beck
 
 
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Re: Internet Key on Neo Freerunner?

2008-11-29 Thread Giovanni
Can any expert write an how-to document to explain how to setup and run an
internet key on the Freerunner?

Better if the how-to is on the official wiki.


On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  over to usb-serial mode to do the comms. This seems to cover most models,
 but
  I don't know if it's been tried on ARM yet.

 Works fine. http://iki.fi/lindi/debian/pool/main/u/usb-modeswitch has
 an unofficial debian source and binary package.

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Re: Creating a distro on a sim card

2008-11-29 Thread Rodney Myers
In my ongoing quest, I did find out I was not actually booting from  
the SD device, so I have printed out the instructions, and for the  
past week attempting to get the device configured and booting properly


So far this is what I am accomplishing

Still attempting to get my OM to boot from the SD card.

If I fillow the instructions at

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Prepare_the_SD_card

and format the 1st partition vfat, I get this error when booting  
(using magnifying glass);


[2.68000]   mmcblk0: error -84 sending read/write command
[2.68000]   buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0
[2.68500]   mmcblk0:  error -110 sending read/write command
[2.69000]   buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0
[8.15000]	kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on  
unknown-block(179,2)



if I change 1st partition to ext2, I get this error;

unable to read  image uImage.bin

and then pops back into the boot menu

I'm at a loss to figure this out.

Anymore help would be greatly appreciated



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Re: Creating a distro on a sim card

2008-11-29 Thread Paul

 and format the 1st partition vfat, I get this error when booting 
 (using magnifying glass);

 [2.68000]mmcblk0: error -84 sending read/write command
 [2.68000]buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0
 [2.68500]mmcblk0:  error -110 sending read/write command
 [2.69000]buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0
 [8.15000]kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs 
 on unknown-block(179,2)

What did you do to the 2nd partition? You need to format that ext2, and 
put a rootfs on that.
Judging from the last error message, there is no defined or formated 2nd 
partition.

Paul

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Re: Creating a distro on a sim card

2008-11-29 Thread Christopher J. White
On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 12:45 -0800, Rodney Myers wrote:
 if I change 1st partition to ext2, I get this error;
 
 unable to read  image uImage.bin
 
 and then pops back into the boot menu

If you change the SD partition to ext2, you have change the boot_args to
something like in the NAND flash.   The key difference, I believe, is
changing the rootfstype to ext2.

With Debian on a 2GB microSD card, here's my boot cmdline
(cat /proc/cmdline):

glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=1000 rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6
console=ttySAC2,115200 console=tty0 loglevel=8 regular_boot
mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0f6a(rootfs)
 rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5

For details on setting bootargs variable, see:

http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743

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Community update draft

2008-11-29 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Hi guys,

  As usual, the draft is at:  
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates
Please feel free to fix/update/add whatever, the newsletter should go on 
Monday if all goes well.

Yours,
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Re: [Debian] TSLIB_TSDEVICE no longer getting set

2008-11-29 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Christopher,

Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 16:18 + schrieb Christopher J. White:
 I've been trying to get gestikk [1] working, a mouse-gestures program
 that turns mouse gestures into keystrokes at the window manager level.
 This seems ideal for finger gestures to do things like scrolling,
 paging, etc in a generic fashion.

Nice program. What are you going to use as a toggle? AUX-Key?

 After working through package dependencies, and building a needed python
 module, I got it fulling installed and actually managed to get it to run
 and put it's icon in the tray.  Unfortunately, it requires
 right-click...i don't have the right-click tslib patch installed (yet),
 so I reran the program in a mode that allows configuration.  
 
 As soon as I did that, I seemed to lose pointer input.  /etc/init.d/nodm
 restart, reboot, all have no effect.
 
 I have traced it down to TSLIB_TSDEVICE no longer getting set.  If I
 manually export this set properly, and do startx, it works, I get my
 pointer back.
 
 I am running X as a normal user, but the same happens when reverting
 back to root as well.
 
 So, what happened?  I can't figure out how /etc/init.d/nodm is supposed
 to setup environment variables that tslib needs. 

AFAIR, it is not necessary anymore to set this variable,
if /etc/X11/xorg.conf and/or the udev rules are set up correctly – did
you by any chance modify that?

Greetings,
Joachim
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Re: Creating a distro on a sim card

2008-11-29 Thread Rodney Myers

On Nov 29, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Paul wrote:



and format the 1st partition vfat, I get this error when booting
(using magnifying glass);

[2.68000]mmcblk0: error -84 sending read/write command
[2.68000]buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0
[2.68500]mmcblk0:  error -110 sending read/write command
[2.69000]buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0, logical block 0
[8.15000]kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs
on unknown-block(179,2)


What did you do to the 2nd partition? You need to format that ext2,  
and

put a rootfs on that.
Judging from the last error message, there is no defined or formated  
2nd

partition.

Paul


2nd partition is an ext2 partition with the rootfs.*.gz untarred as  
per the wiki.


I just checked again, and this is what I have for the SD card;

I'm doing this on a Debian Stable machine


/dev/sdd1 7.8M  1.9M  5.5M  26% /home/rodney/MokoKernel
/dev/sdd2 949M  157M  745M  18% /home/rodney/Moko

fdisk -l /dev/sdd

Disk /dev/sdd: 1019 MB, 1019216384 bytes
14 heads, 45 sectors/track, 3159 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 630 * 512 = 322560 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdd1   1  268167+   6  FAT16
/dev/sdd2  273159  986895   83  Linux

ls -la MokoKernel/
total 1872
drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root 16384 1969-12-31 16:00 .
drwxr-xr-x 81 rodney rodney4096 2008-11-29 11:18 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root   root   1894716 2008-11-29 13:48 uImage.bin


ls -la Moko/
total 84
drwxr-xr-x 18 root   root4096 2008-09-15 17:24 .
drwxr-xr-x 81 rodney rodney  4096 2008-11-29 11:18 ..
drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root4096 2008-11-29 12:12 bin
drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root4096 2008-09-15 17:25 boot
drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root4096 2008-08-06 23:27 dev
drwxr-xr-x 46 root   root4096 2008-11-29 12:12 etc
drwxr-xr-x  3 root   root4096 2008-09-15 17:23 home
drwxr-xr-x  4 root   root4096 2008-08-07 15:26 lib
drwx--  2 root   root   16384 2008-11-29 12:11 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x 10 root   root4096 2008-09-15 17:23 media
drwxr-xr-x  3 root   root4096 2008-11-29 12:12 mnt
drwxr-xr-x  3 root   root4096 2008-08-06 23:28 opt
drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root4096 2008-08-06 23:27 proc
drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root4096 2008-11-29 12:12 sbin
drwxr-xr-x  2 root   root4096 2008-08-06 23:27 sys
drwxrwxrwt  2 root   root4096 2008-08-06 23:27 tmp
drwxr-xr-x 10 root   root4096 2008-08-06 23:27 usr
drwxr-xr-x  7 root   root4096 2008-08-06 23:26 var


Bloody wierd. Mounted, looked at, umounted, the SD card, reinserted  
into the, and it appears to be boot, but the IP address I edited into  
the /etc/network/interfaces card. does not appear to  have taken.


This is why it is so frustrating. One time, nothing works, then things  
start working




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Re: Creating a distro on a sim card

2008-11-29 Thread Evgeniy Karyakin
Christopher J. White:
 With Debian on a 2GB microSD card, here's my boot cmdline
 (cat /proc/cmdline):
 
 glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=1000 rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6
 console=ttySAC2,115200 console=tty0 loglevel=8 regular_boot
 mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0f6a(rootfs)
  rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5

Don't anybody see a problem with this settings? There's two pairs of 
parameters rootfstype and root; who get the priority? This redundancy is 
because environment has the following variables:

bootargs_base=rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 
console=ttySAC2,115200 console=tty0 loglevel=4 regular_boot

menu_1=Boot from microSD (FAT+ext2): setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} 
rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5 ${mtdparts} ro; mmcinit; 
fatload mmc 1 0x3200 ${sd_image_name}; bootm 0x3200

bootargs_base has one pair, menu_1 has another. So, who's in charge 
here?

Also, is there a reason to mount rootfs read-only? I try to boot 
from uSD card and get several error messages like this:

tar: cannot create directory 'devices/snd': Read-only fiel system
tar: cannot create directory 'devices/input': Read-only fiel system
tar: cannot create directory 'devices/bus': Read-only fiel system
tar: cannot create directory 'devices/net': Read-only fiel system
tar: cannot create directory 'devices/loop': Read-only fiel system

and then

cp: cannot stat '/lib/udev/devices/*': No such file or directory

then

Remounting root filesystem

(so it is remounted rw now?) then

mount: special device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist

(this is stock 512Mb uSD). After that it tries to startup ALSA (with No 
soundcard found resulting message) and network (resulting done), and 
after that it just stall forever. Rootfs is yesterday's testing tarball 
taken from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/.

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Re: Creating a distro on a sim card

2008-11-29 Thread Christopher J. White
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 02:32 +0300, Evgeniy Karyakin wrote:
 Christopher J. White:
  With Debian on a 2GB microSD card, here's my boot cmdline
  (cat /proc/cmdline):
  
  glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=1000 rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6
  console=ttySAC2,115200 console=tty0 loglevel=8 regular_boot
  mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0f6a(rootfs)
   rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5
 
 Don't anybody see a problem with this settings? There's two pairs of 
 parameters rootfstype and root; who get the priority? This redundancy is 
 because environment has the following variables:
 
 bootargs_base=rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 
 console=ttySAC2,115200 console=tty0 loglevel=4 regular_boot
 
 menu_1=Boot from microSD (FAT+ext2): setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} 
 rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5 ${mtdparts} ro; mmcinit; 
 fatload mmc 1 0x3200 ${sd_image_name}; bootm 0x3200
 
 bootargs_base has one pair, menu_1 has another. So, who's in charge 
 here?

LOLI didn't even notice that.  After several *hours* of working on
it (and dumping the 8GB card I bought that just would not work), I
finally found a combo that worked.

Needless to say the above works fine for me with my Debian distro, so it
must just take the last assignment as the final and go from there.

You are right that it's a combo of boot_args plus the indirection from
menu_1 using boot_args.

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Re: Audio format

2008-11-29 Thread Leonti Bielski
I would recommend ogg too.
I'm was using ogg file as my ringtone without any problems.
Not sure about your distribution...

Leonti

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 What is the best audio format for offering ringtones, notifications,
 etc.? I'd prefer .ogg because of its easy license and small file size.
 The .wav and .mp3 I'd shun for these reasons. Is this correct and is the
 phone capable of using .ogg as ringtones and notifications in both the
 OM part and the Qt part.

 Thanks,

 Pander

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Re: [Debian] TSLIB_TSDEVICE no longer getting set

2008-11-29 Thread Christopher J. White
On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 21:53 +, Joachim Breitner wrote:
 Hi Christopher,
 
 Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 16:18 + schrieb Christopher J. White:
  I've been trying to get gestikk [1] working, a mouse-gestures program
  that turns mouse gestures into keystrokes at the window manager level.
  This seems ideal for finger gestures to do things like scrolling,
  paging, etc in a generic fashion.
 
 Nice program. What are you going to use as a toggle? AUX-Key?

Yeah, it's looking promising.  I'm not quite sure yet how to integrate
it.  I've managed to get it working with the standard Xorg distribution,
but not Xglamo as it require Xkb, which Xglamo doesn't currently
support.  (anyone interested, I can send you pointers to what I've got
workingnot quite ready though).

At a basic stage, I can define a finger gesture and map it to a
keystroke such as a.  So far the mouse events are simultaneously
passed to the underlying application.  For example, passing a simple
stroke up will be recognized by gestikk, but also passed to the xterm
that has focus and thus will select and drag across the xterm window.
Not ideal.

Ideally it would always be active in a smart mode.  I'm thinking about
trying to restrict it such that if there is no movement after the
initial click, than it is *not* a gesture.  If there is immediate
motion, capture the entire mouse motion as a gesture and attempt not to
pass it along to the underlying application.  We'll have to see how
easily this is achieved.  

It may work best enabled for some apps but not others. 

At worst, I'll use the AUX-key or something like that as a trigger to
enable gesture recognition.

  After working through package dependencies, and building a needed python
  module, I got it fulling installed and actually managed to get it to run
  and put it's icon in the tray.  Unfortunately, it requires
  right-click...i don't have the right-click tslib patch installed (yet),
  so I reran the program in a mode that allows configuration.  
  
  As soon as I did that, I seemed to lose pointer input.  /etc/init.d/nodm
  restart, reboot, all have no effect.
  
  I have traced it down to TSLIB_TSDEVICE no longer getting set.  If I
  manually export this set properly, and do startx, it works, I get my
  pointer back.
  
  I am running X as a normal user, but the same happens when reverting
  back to root as well.
  
  So, what happened?  I can't figure out how /etc/init.d/nodm is supposed
  to setup environment variables that tslib needs. 
 
 AFAIR, it is not necessary anymore to set this variable,
 if /etc/X11/xorg.conf and/or the udev rules are set up correctly – did
 you by any chance modify that?

I was running Xglamo at the time, so I had modified xorg.conf to point
to Xglamo as the display device.  However, something happened that
screwed that up, both for Xglamo as well as fbdev.  Right now neither
will work.

In fact, it's rather strange.  If I start xinit manually after setting
TSLIB_TSDEVICE, it works:

$ export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1
$ /usr/bin/xinit /etc/X11/Xsession

However, when I run it in a fashion similar to /etc/init.d/nodm, it
fails:

$ /bin/su --login --command /usr/bin/xinit /etc/X11/Xsession root

This is despite putting the export command in .bashrc and verifying that
it's set.  I even tried verifying that it was getting TSLIB_TSDEVICE:

$  /bin/su --login --command printenv root
[...]
TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1

However, it still fails to work.

I removed and then reinstalled xserver-xglamo, and the error messages
changed, but it still does not work.

...cj



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Re: A light for the Freerunner

2008-11-29 Thread William Kenworthy
Yes, they are brighter. I am actually thinking of using your idea, but
adding an extension and small camera so the light can be used in
confined areas with the FR as the screen.  When I get the time ...

BillK

On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 14:09 +0100, Patrick Beck wrote:
 Hello,
 
 it's not comparable to this solution ;) This two leds are twice or more
 brighter than the display.
 
 with kind regards
 
 Patrick
 
 Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 12:42 +0900 schrieb William Kenworthy:
  I use flashlight - turns the screen backlight up to max.  Touch to
  turn off ( return screen to previous setting).  Its actually quite
  bright and useful, and no soldering involved.
  
  BillK
  
  
  On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 22:56 +0100, Patrick Beck wrote:
   Hello,
   
   because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i
   added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has
   any improvements for me :D
   
   Here you can find a wiki article about the light 
   http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light
   
   And here two videos
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE
   
   It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea
   and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of
   devices :)
   
   At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;)
   
   Have fun!
   
   with kind regards
   
   Patrick Beck
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Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix

2008-11-29 Thread Sascha Wessel
Hi,

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 06:34:18PM +0100, arne anka wrote:
 atm there's no fix at all, neither after 3 nor after 10 minutes.
 the log is full of
 Discarded data not UBX ...
 and ubx seems, afair, to be the format the agps uses/needes.
 
 so far there's no statement of the fso developers, what that means -- and  
 according to the git ogpsd wasn't changed for more than a month now, so  
 downgrading seems not really sensible.

Daniel asked for a _complete_ log just 3 hours after the initial bug
report (Ticket #265). But no answer until now...


Greetings,
Sascha


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