Re: Re: FreeRunner Happiness
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Unfortunately it still does lack some basic phone functionality (mailbox alters, stable alarm etc) SHR seems to have stable alarm, so it'll come. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Happiness
Seconded. Regarding the software: It's awesome, and progressing very well Regarding the hardware: The Freerunner gods must be looking down on me. I've purchased 4 FRs (3 for work, 1 personal). Currently there are two sitting in data centers monitoring our critical infrastructure, one sitting next to my home server, and yet another sitting on my office desk. These devices fill very small niches. Anyways, onto the bad: I have avoided the GSM buzz bug, #666, etc... The only bugs I have experienced are the SDHC card failure (Stupid, crappy glamo, we really should bitch out Smedia..., see below for contact info), and the GSM echo. I gotta say, well done. Keep it coming. Smedia's addresses: 8F., No.1, Jinshan 7th St., Hsinchu City, Taiwan Tel: +886-3-6661166 Fax: +886-3-5670055 Addr :9F,No.233-1, Baociao Rd.,Sindian City, Taipei County 23145.Taiwan. Tel: +886-2-2918-9958 Fax: +886-2-2918-9975 E-mail addresses: market...@smediatech.com sa...@smediatech.com If you contact Smedia, please don't say you have a direct affiliation with the OM project, I'm sure Sean and Steve would not approve. On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Greg lun...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Hi, With all the recent talk about FR problems I think its a good time to share my recent good experiences. When the kernel with the WSOD fix went into testing I immediately installed a clean image on a 2Gb SD card. I changed the boot params to remove the ro, installed Raster's keyboard, I got rid of the default keyboard, switched to the illume theme, changed the engine to the software_x, and imported my contacts. I've been using it as a daily phone for a week now with no problems. No WSOD (Yay!), no recamping issues, only one caller mentioned echo (their end was loud, so I turned the vol down - sorted). Everything just worked. Sure, the UI seems a bit slow, and answering calls can take a bit of guessing as to when the audio paths are setup, but I'm really happy with it. I get about 60 hours before the battery icon starts to go red, which is not a huge amount, but easily enough to work with. Now I have a phone with a notepad, an ebook reader, a PDF reader, and a GPS. This means I can always take notes, refer to manuals and locate new sites. Since I work for a systems integration company this is great stuff - its like having a toolkit and reference set in my pocket. Oh yeah - it is also a phone :-) Have fun, Greg. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Happiness
Greg wrote: I changed the boot params to remove the ro, How did you do that? I tried many times to boot the testing image from microSD but it always complained about the ro option. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] M4.1 issues (GPS, Suspend)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, | | Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes: | | while, it gets unable to go to sleep. I can press the power button ten | | times, it still stays on. Only way I found for now is to reboot. Not | | pretty :/ | | This is a kernel issue I think, it should be gone in andy-tracking based | kernels with Balaji's new regulator based PMU driver in. | | It seems to me it's not. I used stable for some time and seen the | same issue. Now i switched to andy-tracking and it's just the same | (though suspends now seems to be faster). The FSO issues several | commands to the GSM modem prior to suspending, if they fail, it Yes if userspace is getting the button presses and eating them, it will give same end result. There was a bug flying around where we lose an interrupt from the PMU and after that we don't get notified about button presses: that should be gone anyway. | But you are right, it's time to try the new kernel, as FSO works ok | with it (minor modifications necessary, reported on fso trac). Great. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklDjVIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpJSwCghmdBzV5MlALdJ77fzUB2TrJH edoAn2mpGR9fySWZF46WcZEKXjcAW/sV =P8L7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] M4.1 issues (GPS, Suspend)
Hi Olivier, - It looks like the only way to go into suspend is to press the power button shortly. That's ok for me, but Illume's config is still stating suspend happens just after blanking, which itself occurs after 30s of idling. But since I prefer to chose when I suspend, I won't complain (it's just a little odd). Yes, integration with illume -- or X and a window manager in general is not perfect yet. What's worse is that sometimes, after a while, it gets unable to go to sleep. I can press the power button ten times, it still stays on. Yes, I have seen this, but not been able to reproduce with meaningful logs. I would appreciate creating an FSO ticket w/ debug logs. I'm completely in love with the cli-framework command. I mean, this is exactly the reason why I hopped on the OpenMoko wagon. I can tweak, explore, experiment, and I like that. Glad to hear that, this is why we did that way. problem is, GPS subsystem doesn't seem to work at all (either through Zhone, Tango or cli-framework). I launch cli, Request GPS resource (which took less than 10 secondes). And then, I can wait forever, I can't see a single satellite (through GetSatellites()). You have run 'mdbus -s -l' in another shell? cli-framework is not able to show you the async. signals. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
I made a case mockup a little while ago. But I never had time to create a 3D model. I came across a few problems while I designed the case: - The Freerunner doesn't have any buttons on its front. In addition to that, the borders left and right from the display are pretty large (around 0.8 cm/0.315 inch). Everytime I looked at my mockup, I thought it's looking some kind of strange. It's really hard to get a good design if you only have a display and nothing more. - Another problem that was resulted by the one above was that every mockup I made looked either like the iPhone or a LG Prada (or like all the other mobiles with a touchscreen). These days nearly every touchscreen phone looks the same! - The last problem I came across was the thickness. Even if the bevels around the display are removed (that makes about 3mm/0.12inch less), the phone is still very thick. But I don't think there is a way to get it smaller... Have a look at the mockup here: http://www.opkg.org/images/case_mockup.jpg It would be really cool if someone could create a new case. I never liked the original one, and something more stylish would be great. Regards, Tobias On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 19:52, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.netwrote: arne anka wrote: would it be possible, this way, to find a possible way to remove the frame around the screen? In other words: could a new case be made that hasn't the frame around the screen? that would increase the usable surface my thoughts exactly ;-) any help from the hardware guys or those having the fr disassembled already? is the beveled border somehow necessary? Mh, When I removed the front cover to put in my homemade screen protector (a transparent foil for projections :P), I noticed that there's space for keeping the LCD on the surface of the cover. I'm I wrong? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]
Hi Treviño, and thanks for your feedback Marco Trevisan (Treviño) a écrit : I've to say that the newer package you made is really faster when loading my maps on launch, also if it doesn't seem to include the fix posted months ago here (to redraw the map only after each drag as TangoGPS does) In fact it does (since rev 1569), but it's not enabled by default. Try adding drag_bitmap=1 to the navit tag (like recent_dest). I agree that it should get more advertising, because it's a very useful patch (thanks again Florian for that). It's not enabled by default because it's not yet supported by every graphics drivers (e.g. : on wince). I'll add a comment in the xml file for that, and we'll probably enable it by default on the opkg build. and it doesn't include a wrapper script with: echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory Yes, indeed. i ran into the same issue, and without it you can't load streets files. Finally I've seen this screenshot [1] in scap, is this an EFL implementation of Navit? It seems to use the enlightenment toolkit both for the buttons and for the map rendering (better than the GPS from what I can see there). Have you some informations about this shot? :P Yes, it's a work in progress by 'quickdev'. But there is still a lot of work to be done :) Anyway thanks for the work done in Navit, it's really a great project! Thank you! I'll have a deeper look at the other points of your mail. K- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Happiness
On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 00:36 -0800, Sargun Dhillon wrote: Seconded. ... Anyways, onto the bad: I have avoided the GSM buzz bug, #666, etc... The only bugs I have experienced are the SDHC card failure (Stupid, crappy glamo, we really should bitch out Smedia..., see below for contact info), and the GSM echo. I gotta say, well done. Keep it coming. Smedia's addresses: 8F., No.1, Jinshan 7th St., Hsinchu City, Taiwan Tel: +886-3-6661166 Fax: +886-3-5670055 Addr :9F,No.233-1, Baociao Rd.,Sindian City, Taipei County 23145.Taiwan. Tel: +886-2-2918-9958 Fax: +886-2-2918-9975 E-mail addresses: market...@smediatech.com sa...@smediatech.com I really like this idea. I know we can contact Openmoko and sign the NDA to get the data sheet, but it seems to negate the point of free software for me (everything being open and developing as a community). Here http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1505667i40 Wolfgang Spraul feels promises were broken in regards to opening documentation- so our letters of complaint would be valid. If enough pissed off people write in, would they open up the specs? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
- The Freerunner doesn't have any buttons on its front. In addition to i'd pretty much like to see at least some kind of 5-way rocker switch -- i do not know how rakshat will implement an usb keyboard, but it might be a way for hw freaks to do the same with some simple buttons only. - Another problem that was resulted by the one above was that every mockup I made looked either like the iPhone or a LG Prada (or like i am comfortable with the current shape, looks a bit different. - The last problem I came across was the thickness. Even if the bevels around the display are removed (that makes about 3mm/0.12inch less), the phone is still very thick. But I don't think there is a way to get it smaller... if i remember correctly it's not much thicker than eg the iphone -- but the iphone has an rched back, getting thinner towards the sides. withe current design (buttons and slots at the sides, back cover easily removable) there's probably not much to be done about. re the bevel i was rather concerned wheter there's only empty space behind or if the hw requires them. it would be very nice if the edge between display and casing could disappear or be lowered substantially ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR
2008/12/8 Nicolas LAURANCE nlaura...@zindep.com: Hi freephone users, I wrote a little python script that will inject geocaching positions into tangoGPS, so that you can use your freephone to locate the caches you select. You'll find screenshots, instructions and download at : http://www.zindep.com/blog-zindep/geocaching_tangogps I hope it can be of some use Very useful thanks, although I still wish GroundSpeak were more open with their data... :( Anyway, I've attached a patch to make your script work with Python 2.5 (element tree moved within the standard library so needs to be imported differently). Thanks -- Matt Brown m...@mattb.net.nz Mob +353 86 608 7117 www.mattb.net.nz --- loc2tango.py.orig 2008-12-13 12:23:46.0 + +++ loc2tango.py2008-12-13 12:24:02.0 + @@ -4,7 +4,10 @@ # Licence GPL # (c) Nicolas Laurance 2008 -import elementtree.ElementTree as ET +try: +import elementtree.ElementTree as ET +except ImportError: +import xml.etree.ElementTree as ET import re, hashlib from pysqlite2 import dbapi2 as sqlite from optparse import OptionParser ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bastian Muck wrote: Dale Maggee schrieb: [..] 2. The Messaging app - it's doing strange things, like sometimes it creates duplicates of messages, so I'll see 2 or 3 copies of the same SMS in my inbox. So I'll move all messages to trash and empty trash, then a couple of minutes later an SMS will arrive and it'll say '17 messages recieved' and I'll see many duplicates of old messages I just deleted in my inbox. Also it will only store about 130 messages - is this storing SMS messages on the SIM? can it be configured to store them in it's own database? The messages are stored in the Sim and in the sqlite-db. When i delete copies of my sms, these sms are not copied. The message '17' new messages habe arrived is caused when 17 messages are stored in the sim. when you delete the messages, next time there are just 1 or 2 messages. I guess, that on an arrived sms the messages is forgotten to be deleted from sim. Maybe that just 1 line of code may be the solution of the problem. But I don't know the code, so I can't give a 100% correct comment. This are just my expierences. [..] 4. I'm told that the echo is back (which wasn't there with Trolltech's QT extended image, the one which didn't ring) There is just no echo, because the volume set in QT extended ist quite low. with this volume I had no problem with any image. Does anybody have any ideas on any of these things? apart from this and the fact that I can't run any of the cool software being produced for 2008.x, I like Qt Extended alot! You can't run these apps because QT Extended has no support for GTK-Apps. Greetungs Bastian Thanks for your response, unfortunately it doesn't really help solve any of the problems i'm having. My friends are reporting that there *is* an echo, so telling me there's no echo doesn't really cut it... :) - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQ6wEFbVnQRV3OEYRAnpRAJ4piyzAjj86NssJ/3vbMhV2anVCnwCeIQz6 gYXy5HaS0inU0fvLrusxV8c= =aM/z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
Take a look at what swisscom have made : http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
U Sub, 13. 12. 2008., u 13:56 +0100, Vincent Pomageot je napisao/la: Take a look at what swisscom have made : http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Very nice! I like it. signature.asc Description: Dio poruke sa digitalnim potpisom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
Dale Maggee schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bastian Muck wrote: Dale Maggee schrieb: [..] 2. The Messaging app - it's doing strange things, like sometimes it creates duplicates of messages, so I'll see 2 or 3 copies of the same SMS in my inbox. So I'll move all messages to trash and empty trash, then a couple of minutes later an SMS will arrive and it'll say '17 messages recieved' and I'll see many duplicates of old messages I just deleted in my inbox. Also it will only store about 130 messages - is this storing SMS messages on the SIM? can it be configured to store them in it's own database? The messages are stored in the Sim and in the sqlite-db. When i delete copies of my sms, these sms are not copied. The message '17' new messages habe arrived is caused when 17 messages are stored in the sim. when you delete the messages, next time there are just 1 or 2 messages. I guess, that on an arrived sms the messages is forgotten to be deleted from sim. Maybe that just 1 line of code may be the solution of the problem. But I don't know the code, so I can't give a 100% correct comment. This are just my expierences. [..] 4. I'm told that the echo is back (which wasn't there with Trolltech's QT extended image, the one which didn't ring) There is just no echo, because the volume set in QT extended ist quite low. with this volume I had no problem with any image. Does anybody have any ideas on any of these things? apart from this and the fact that I can't run any of the cool software being produced for 2008.x, I like Qt Extended alot! You can't run these apps because QT Extended has no support for GTK-Apps. Greetungs Bastian Thanks for your response, unfortunately it doesn't really help solve any of the problems i'm having. My friends are reporting that there *is* an echo, so telling me there's no echo doesn't really cut it... :) - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQ6wEFbVnQRV3OEYRAnpRAJ4piyzAjj86NssJ/3vbMhV2anVCnwCeIQz6 gYXy5HaS0inU0fvLrusxV8c= =aM/z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community When the Handsfree-option is actevated, I have a heavy echo, too. But when Handset is activated, my settings are so low, that no echo is hearable. But afaik it depends on signalstrength and provider. And I nearly have good signal. For your problem: try to decrease mono-volume. This helped me with 2008.x ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bastian Muck wrote: Dale Maggee schrieb: Bastian Muck wrote: Dale Maggee schrieb: [..] 2. The Messaging app - it's doing strange things, like sometimes it creates duplicates of messages, so I'll see 2 or 3 copies of the same SMS in my inbox. So I'll move all messages to trash and empty trash, then a couple of minutes later an SMS will arrive and it'll say '17 messages recieved' and I'll see many duplicates of old messages I just deleted in my inbox. Also it will only store about 130 messages - is this storing SMS messages on the SIM? can it be configured to store them in it's own database? The messages are stored in the Sim and in the sqlite-db. When i delete copies of my sms, these sms are not copied. The message '17' new messages habe arrived is caused when 17 messages are stored in the sim. when you delete the messages, next time there are just 1 or 2 messages. I guess, that on an arrived sms the messages is forgotten to be deleted from sim. Maybe that just 1 line of code may be the solution of the problem. But I don't know the code, so I can't give a 100% correct comment. This are just my expierences. [..] 4. I'm told that the echo is back (which wasn't there with Trolltech's QT extended image, the one which didn't ring) There is just no echo, because the volume set in QT extended ist quite low. with this volume I had no problem with any image. Does anybody have any ideas on any of these things? apart from this and the fact that I can't run any of the cool software being produced for 2008.x, I like Qt Extended alot! You can't run these apps because QT Extended has no support for GTK-Apps. Greetungs Bastian Thanks for your response, unfortunately it doesn't really help solve any of the problems i'm having. My friends are reporting that there *is* an echo, so telling me there's no echo doesn't really cut it... :) -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community When the Handsfree-option is actevated, I have a heavy echo, too. But when Handset is activated, my settings are so low, that no echo is hearable. But afaik it depends on signalstrength and provider. And I nearly have good signal. For your problem: try to decrease mono-volume. This helped me with 2008.x ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community That's another problem I have: Sometimes it seems to go to handsfree by itself: I'll answer the phone and for some reason it'll be in handsfree mode and I have to switch it to handset. I'll try playing with volume levels, thanks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQ8eTFbVnQRV3OEYRAneBAKCDmlejjtUV5xrjyeanJshP+vj0fwCdFNpt rw5EOW7TfRDxb3Iy+6cgNYs= =RPdf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
Take a look at what swisscom have made : http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?page_id=53 nice. but the link as such is far nicer. didn't recall that swisscom was working on imporvements of the freerunner -- there are a few interesting posts in this blog. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SOLVED] [Qt Extended]Graphical server doesn't boot
Yeah. That worked. I have tried today adding removing files to see which one was failing. The problems seemed to be with one file under Settings/Trolltech . After a lot of tries, I managed to run the qpe with the old Settings, but it annoyed me with synchronization errors every few seconds. I called reboot on my ssh session, and after that all worked ok. IOU 1, man. El dom, 07-12-2008 a las 19:02 +0100, Hypnotize escribió: Have you tried to delete everything that is in the home folder ? (this will delete your contacts to so you may want to take a backup of qtopia_db.sqlite in /home/root if I remember correct.. /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/qpe.sh stop rm -rf /home/root/* /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/qpe.sh start or something -Morten On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:42 PM, ø fla...@correo.ugr.es wrote: I'm using Qt Extended 4.4.2 flashed into the phone (Freerunner). For weeks it has worked perfectly (or the most perfect a distribution can work on the neo). This morning, it went out of battery. I don't know if it booted correctly, since I was sleeping. When I have plugged it into the computer, it doesn't boot. Well, at least not Qt Extended. The boot process goes well, it casts the same amount of error as usual, but at one point this happens: Starting at daemon atd. splash-write: appplet not found Segmentation fault Then, the screen is deleted and you only see a text cursor flashing, like it was loading a graphical server. From time to time, it seems it try to bring some screen, but fails (I think I cannot explain better). Net is initialized, so I can ssh into my phone, but I don't know what to do. I have no found sytem logs, nor graphical server log, nor anyother useful log. I have looked in the list, but no one seems to have the same problem. Any advice? (It was important that I had my phone usable today T_T). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR
Matt Brown a ecrit: Anyway, I've attached a patch to make your script work with Python 2.5 (element tree moved within the standard library so needs to be imported differently). Thanks Thanks to you, this improved version is uploaded now ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]
Where could we find this new package? Is it the one linked to on the wiki? I'd like to try it out on my debian install. -Dan Staley On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 05:20 -0500, KaZeR wrote: Hi Trevio, and thanks for your feedback Marco Trevisan (Trevio) a crit : I've to say that the newer package you made is really faster when loading my maps on launch, also if it doesn't seem to include the fix posted months ago here (to redraw the map only after each drag as TangoGPS does) In fact it does (since rev 1569), but it's not enabled by default. Try adding drag_bitmap=1 to the navit tag (like recent_dest). I agree that it should get more advertising, because it's a very useful patch (thanks again Florian for that). It's not enabled by default because it's not yet supported by every graphics drivers (e.g. : on wince). I'll add a comment in the xml file for that, and we'll probably enable it by default on the opkg build. and it doesn't include a wrapper script with: echo 1 /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory Yes, indeed. i ran into the same issue, and without it you can't load streets files. Finally I've seen this screenshot [1] in scap, is this an EFL implementation of Navit? It seems to use the enlightenment toolkit both for the buttons and for the map rendering (better than the GPS from what I can see there). Have you some informations about this shot? :P Yes, it's a work in progress by 'quickdev'. But there is still a lot of work to be done :) Anyway thanks for the work done in Navit, it's really a great project! Thank you! I'll have a deeper look at the other points of your mail. K- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enjoy!
I think I've seen it on scat.linuxtogo.org some time ago. It means someone run it succesfully on FR. Sorry, don't know any details. Leonti On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Martino manda@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Some one is working around this http://profusion.mobi/node/10 ?? Is possible to have a ipkg on opkg.org!! I find it great.. And for now I don't found nothing similar.. Thanks -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enjoy!
Sorry, scap.linuxtogo.org of course. Leonti On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: I think I've seen it on scat.linuxtogo.org some time ago. It means someone run it succesfully on FR. Sorry, don't know any details. Leonti On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Martino manda@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Some one is working around this http://profusion.mobi/node/10 ?? Is possible to have a ipkg on opkg.org!! I find it great.. And for now I don't found nothing similar.. Thanks -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]
2008/12/13 Dan Staley dlst...@uky.edu: Where could we find this new package? Is it the one linked to on the wiki? I'd like to try it out on my debian install. There are .opkg files here: http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/ I installed most recent one today and it's a vast improvement over the one I had been using. Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:12:54 +0300, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: Samuel Pereira schrieb: Hi, Try this, Turn off built-in qtopia keyboard add export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia The testing image dont have this disabled. Samuel was one of the first things i did... i don't know what happened, but now its gone (rebooted again, now when i choose no virtual keyboard in illume config, the qtopia keyboard is gone, don't aks me why, but now i'm happy) thx to everyone for the quick replies i'm put export ... line in ~/.profile it work without any strange settings. cat /home/root/.profile export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 works only after reboot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO unstable] - qtopia-x11 not installable
Hi list, after having made the round of all distributions (I'm another one who has a Freerunner gathering dust), I thought I'd try the unstable FSO, just for the sake of it. Well, there is no graphic at first, so ssh into it, adding /etc/opkg/unstable.conf with rc/gz unstable-all http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/all src/gz unstable-arm http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t src/gz unstable-neo http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/neo1973 src/gz unstable-gta02 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/om-gta02 opkg update opkg upgrade opkg install qtopia-x11 And it spits out an error that it can't find libxi6... Obviously, as it's not in the repository! How do I get that library? It's in testing, but not in unstable - why? What did I miss? Thanks in advance for any hint, Linus PS: now trying testing... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Happiness
I really like this idea. I know we can contact Openmoko and sign the NDA to get the data sheet, but it seems to negate the point of free software for me (everything being open and developing as a community). Here http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1505667i40 Wolfgang Spraul feels promises were broken in regards to opening documentation- so our letters of complaint would be valid. If enough pissed off people write in, would they open up the specs? Actually, they will probably just delete your e-mails and trash your mails. I tried: On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:37:27 +0300 *...@. wrote: Hello, I'm writing on this address only because it was the only e-mail contact I found on your site. If it's possible for you to forward it to a more relevant department (management, engineering, design, ...) then please do so. My questions regard your Glamo 3362 chip that is used in my new phone - Neo Freerunner. I'm wondering on the constraints that you have set on the documentation concerning this chip. As you probably know, Openmoko is all about freedom, both in software and hardware. This has managed the company to draw a considerable community around it, many members of it quite skilled in both software and hardware development. I'm not kidding myself with hoping you to make your hardware completely open but I would really care for letting the community have access to the documentation. As I've understood, your documentation is only available under heavy NDA and can thus only be accessed by Openmoko employees. For that reason the potential of your hardware remains largely unused. There are many new ideas that could be made work on the chip and quite a lot of problems that could easily be engineered around if we only had the means to. Unfortunately this is too big of a job for the Openmoko team to do by themselves (which is probably why they decided to abandon the Glamo chip for the next version of Freerunner - GTA03). This is why I ask if there is a possibility the Glamo documentation will be released to the public. What are the problems you expect following this potential action? What are the reasons the documentation has been kept secret for the time being? I would be most grateful if you could reply to these few questions and consider my points for a minute. I'm sure respecting and trusting your customers would open up a completely new market for your exellent hardware. I hope to hear from you soon, I did not receive a reply and reminded them two weeks later. Still haven't got a reply. You're welcome to try though. Perhaps they'll give in once enough of a number contacts them. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Community update draft
Dear peers, The draft of our next Community update is available for review at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/December_15th%2C_2008 Cordially yours, Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
For some reason, that wiki does not work for me. I start with an 'opkg update' and give all the commands in the wiki, after X restart, nothing happens. No QWERTY button, no wrench icon, no keyboard choice. Am I the only one going insane? On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Vadim, Efimov eva...@evadim.ru wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:12:54 +0300, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: Samuel Pereira schrieb: Hi, Try this, Turn off built-in qtopia keyboard add export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia The testing image dont have this disabled. Samuel was one of the first things i did... i don't know what happened, but now its gone (rebooted again, now when i choose no virtual keyboard in illume config, the qtopia keyboard is gone, don't aks me why, but now i'm happy) thx to everyone for the quick replies i'm put export ... line in ~/.profile it work without any strange settings. cat /home/root/.profile export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 works only after reboot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FreeRunner Happiness
Sorry if this double posted guys. I was having issues with Gmail. Well, usually companies like these have huge firewalls before you hit someone with a respectable IQ. Though, their phones are slightly more vulnerable. So, who is up to calling them? If I had some amount of donations, I would be willing to create two 800 numbers that redirect to the two known smediatech numbers. The rates would be $0.0415/minute. Additionally snail mail is useful, because it creates a pain in the ass for whoever is filtering the mail. I don't know if there is a Taiwainese equivalent of the BBB, but if there is, please chime in. Other ideas: -Google bomb the name Smediatech to something nasty [like a page about how smedia sucks] -Just a general web page about smedia's suckage. Remember guys, stay legal. On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Yogiz yog...@gmail.com wrote: I really like this idea. I know we can contact Openmoko and sign the NDA to get the data sheet, but it seems to negate the point of free software for me (everything being open and developing as a community). Here http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1505667i40 Wolfgang Spraul feels promises were broken in regards to opening documentation- so our letters of complaint would be valid. If enough pissed off people write in, would they open up the specs? Actually, they will probably just delete your e-mails and trash your mails. I tried: On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:37:27 +0300 *...@. wrote: Hello, I'm writing on this address only because it was the only e-mail contact I found on your site. If it's possible for you to forward it to a more relevant department (management, engineering, design, ...) then please do so. My questions regard your Glamo 3362 chip that is used in my new phone - Neo Freerunner. I'm wondering on the constraints that you have set on the documentation concerning this chip. As you probably know, Openmoko is all about freedom, both in software and hardware. This has managed the company to draw a considerable community around it, many members of it quite skilled in both software and hardware development. I'm not kidding myself with hoping you to make your hardware completely open but I would really care for letting the community have access to the documentation. As I've understood, your documentation is only available under heavy NDA and can thus only be accessed by Openmoko employees. For that reason the potential of your hardware remains largely unused. There are many new ideas that could be made work on the chip and quite a lot of problems that could easily be engineered around if we only had the means to. Unfortunately this is too big of a job for the Openmoko team to do by themselves (which is probably why they decided to abandon the Glamo chip for the next version of Freerunner - GTA03). This is why I ask if there is a possibility the Glamo documentation will be released to the public. What are the problems you expect following this potential action? What are the reasons the documentation has been kept secret for the time being? I would be most grateful if you could reply to these few questions and consider my points for a minute. I'm sure respecting and trusting your customers would open up a completely new market for your exellent hardware. I hope to hear from you soon, I did not receive a reply and reminded them two weeks later. Still haven't got a reply. You're welcome to try though. Perhaps they'll give in once enough of a number contacts them. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory failure. Do you have cpp and all the gcc related packages installed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Did you delete the /home/root/.e directory before a full reboot? May need to stop X first before delete as well - not sure but as you are having problems ... BillK On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 21:54 +0100, Atilla Filiz wrote: For some reason, that wiki does not work for me. I start with an 'opkg update' and give all the commands in the wiki, after X restart, nothing happens. No QWERTY button, no wrench icon, no keyboard choice. Am I the only one going insane? On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Vadim, Efimov eva...@evadim.ru wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:12:54 +0300, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: Samuel Pereira schrieb: Hi, Try this, Turn off built-in qtopia keyboard add export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia The testing image dont have this disabled. Samuel was one of the first things i did... i don't know what happened, but now its gone (rebooted again, now when i choose no virtual keyboard in illume config, the qtopia keyboard is gone, don't aks me why, but now i'm happy) thx to everyone for the quick replies i'm put export ... line in ~/.profile it work without any strange settings. cat /home/root/.profile export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 works only after reboot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enjoy!
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:24:47 +0100 Martino manda@gmail.com babbled: Hi! Some one is working around this http://profusion.mobi/node/10 ?? Is possible to have a ipkg on opkg.org!! I find it great.. And for now I don't found nothing similar.. if you can wait - elementary and guarana will be merging - and that will mean the widget set backing will then have .bb's (as elementary does already) and... that will mean enjoy is a simple extra step away. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Happiness
On Saturday 13 December 2008 20:26:21 ivvmm wrote: Greg wrote: I changed the boot params to remove the ro, How did you do that? I tried many times to boot the testing image from microSD but it always complained about the ro option. I had to change the boot params in NAND. Since I have set the NAND up to automatically boot from the uSD [1], I had notes from that, so I just changed to ro bit to rw. Greg. 1. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot_from_sd_card ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:54:03 +0300, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com wrote: For some reason, that wiki does not work for me. I start with an 'opkg update' and give all the commands in the wiki, after X restart, nothing happens. No QWERTY button, no wrench icon, no keyboard choice. Am I the only one going insane? you switch profile from ASU to illume in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile ? qwerty button present only in illume theme by default. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
