Re: merry christmas
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com wrote: There are female OpenMoko users? Where? :-P Australia In a slightly more politically correct way: Happy holidays! ² ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
2008/12/25 Angus Ainslie angus.ains...@gmail.com I've started an app to help find lost or borrowed Freerunners. It watches for specially formatted SMSs and when it sees the right one it SMSs back its location. Put [1] in /usr/bin/ Put [2] int /etc/init.d/ chmod +x /etc/init.d/sms-sentry.sh ln -s /etc/init.d/sms-sentry /etc/rc5.d/S99sms-sentry reboot Now whenever you text sentry:location to your Freerunner it will return its lat and lan ( and altitude if available ). It may take minutes for the return SMS if the GPS is not active when the incoming SMS arrives. It would be useful to have some authentication too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: www.opkg.org - Relaunch!
Woow! Probably the greatest Christmas gift for this year! Tobias Kündig ha scritto: Dear Community, After hours of coding I can present you my little christmas gift for Openmoko and the whole community: The relaunch of www.opkg.org. The whole site was recoded. There is a new system and a shiny new design. These are the changes I made: New Design --- The old design wasn't very pretty. The new one is more professional and hopefully user friendlier than the old one. The best results you'll get on a resolution of 1280x1024 pixels. I'm sure there are some displaying bugs in other browsers than firefox or in other resolutions. If you find one, please drop me a line and I'll fix it ASAP. There are also some small goodies. For example all new packages since your last visit are highlighted in the overview. One note: Please remember that I don't speak English as first language. So I'm sure there are a lot of grammatically mistakes in the text. Please let me know that, so I can correct them. Improved member area --- If you are logged in, the member area are now appears on the homepage. You'll find a list of all your packages with useful links like «Edit» or «Restore older version». By the way, you now can delete your packages yourself. The API remains the same --- The API wasn't changed at all. So if you began to write an application using it, you don't have to change anything. It simply was ported to the new system - but the results it gives you, are the same than the old one. What you should change --- The URLs for the RSS-Feeds have changed. So please update the URL in your RSS-Reader. Furthermore I'm sure that not all updates since last Friday are correctly imported into the database. So please check the packages you updated since last Friday. What's next? --- There are some features I'd like to include in the future. First of all there's a repository I'd like to create. And maybe I'll include a feature where you can give the visitor information about the compatibility of your package. So you can say, yes, it works on OM2008.12 but not on FSO, for example. Maybe I'll have to change the category names too because there is some conversation on the mailing list about it. We'll see... Of course I'd like to implement your ideas as well. So please write me if you have a revolutionary idea. Please let me know http://www.opkg.org/contact.html what you think of the new site. I wish you all a merry Christmas, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
Nice! And another tool which can be used in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Anti-Theft_Mode Angus Ainslie wrote: I've started an app to help find lost or borrowed Freerunners. It watches for specially formatted SMSs and when it sees the right one it SMSs back its location. Put [1] in /usr/bin/ Put [2] int /etc/init.d/ chmod +x /etc/init.d/sms-sentry.sh ln -s /etc/init.d/sms-sentry /etc/rc5.d/S99sms-sentry reboot Now whenever you text sentry:location to your Freerunner it will return its lat and lan ( and altitude if available ). It may take minutes for the return SMS if the GPS is not active when the incoming SMS arrives. [1] http://handheldshell.com/sms-sentry [2] http://handheldshell.com/sms-sentry.sh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Unusable due freezings?
Hi and merry christmas to all. How can i change illume configs for Engine from SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE? whis is the file to edit? did you have problem with qtopia (like sms app, dialer, ecc.) with the illume? thanks - Original Message - From: Francesco de Virgilio To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: [2008.12] Unusable due freezings? Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:58:56 +0100 Hi all! First of all, greetings for bring us OM 2008.12, it's probably one of the most great releases of OM (the boot in particular is rally cool!). Now, I flashed it yesterday, as follows: dfu-util -a kernel -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin And all it's ok. GSM works, SMS also, GPS, ssh and internet (through USB) out of the box, etc etc. I installed illume theme as follows: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop vi /etc/enlightment/default-profile Change it in -profile illume shutdown now And after changing Illume configs for Engine from SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE it works very fine. BUT Sometimes, it appears almost randomly, OM 2008.12 freezes. It's a total blocking of the system, nothing works through touchscreen or ssh, and I'm forced to reboot. It could be while I'm using TangoGPS or while I'm pressing the answering button, when I talk or when I close a call. What do you think about this? I'll test OM 2008.12 for one or two days but, if this will continue, I will flash in SHR, in the hope it will increase the usability of the phone... but, it is a pity, OM 2008.12 with illume is really cool ;) -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Opkg error
Today i gave opkg update opkg upgrade and i've obtained the following error Collected errors: * Package libframeworkd-glib0 md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'. then i try again with opkg update and then opkg upgrade but nothing, still same error. Some suggestions? -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR]Opkg error
Today i gave opkg update opkg upgrade and i've obtained the following error Collected errors: * Package libframeworkd-glib0 md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'. then i tried again with opkg update and then opkg upgrade but nothing, still same error. Some suggestions? -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 4:33:13 pm Angus Ainslie wrote: It watches for specially formatted SMSs and when it sees the right one it SMSs back its location. Cool, I was talking this idea over with friends a few weeks ago so it's great to see someone having the same idea who can actually programme. ;-) Can I suggest that authenticating messages with OpenPGP signed (optionally encrypted too) messages might be a good idea ? That way you know that not just anyone can find out where you are when they wish.. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: merry christmas
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:12:52 am Michele Renda wrote: Merry Cristmas - Buon Natale - Craciun Fericit Nadolig llawen! Merry Newtonmas [1] too.. cheers, Chris [1] - http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/activism/newtonmas.html -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
El Jueves, 25 de Diciembre de 2008, Carsten Haitzler escribió: actually the cpu (soc) and graphics are about as old-school as the 2g gprs. :) definitely far from state of the art. only things on freerunner that are modern are: LCD GPS Wifi BT case design (sorry the indented screen is very old-school and severely limits the finger-usability of the device - which as it has no stylus that is part of it... is the intended use). :) USB-host is an unseen feature for a phone. The mini-usb connector without an adapter doesn't help very much, but FR supports it. Usb drives, keyboards, (ethernet/3g/camera/tv) dongles, headset, arduinos, printers, and more. This makes FR the perfect pluggable gadget. For example, cameras like this (but with mini-usb) would be a good complement for existing FR: http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/en/news-12994- The+Volvox+USB+webcam+key.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
I think this was discussed a few weeks back: encryption has overhead - more than a 160 characters allows without tricks. and why bother? - if the trigger is a random code known only to you, whats the problem? BillK On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 23:31 +1100, Chris Samuel wrote: On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 4:33:13 pm Angus Ainslie wrote: It watches for specially formatted SMSs and when it sees the right one it SMSs back its location. Cool, I was talking this idea over with friends a few weeks ago so it's great to see someone having the same idea who can actually programme. ;-) Can I suggest that authenticating messages with OpenPGP signed (optionally encrypted too) messages might be a good idea ? That way you know that not just anyone can find out where you are when they wish.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] Enlightenment not starting anymore.
Hey. I have a problem with starting enlightenment. Unfortunately I do not know what caused it to stop working. I shut down the phone one day and everything was seemingly working. Then two days later I wanted to play with the openmoko again and booted up, but it stopped in text-mode. With some help from IRC, I figured it is enlightenment not starting. Enlightenment seemingly can't find it's prefix directory. Setting the environment-variable E_PREFIX to /usr (which is the hard-coded default anyway), it gives a clue. It is looking for the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj, which does not exist. But this is strange, as it didn't exist on the jffs2 flash image either. I thought something had gone wrong with enlightenment, so I decided to reinstall e-wm by using opkg e-wm remove. This was not possible without removing most of the installed software on the phone, so I decided to ignore its dependencies by using: $ opkg remove e-wm -force-depends Then I wanted to installed it again from repository: $ opkg install e-wm Installing e-wm (0.16.999.050+svnr37988-r0.1) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Package e-wm (parent e-wm) is not available from any configured src. * Failed to download e-wm. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? What is this message actually saying? Apparently it does find the e-wm package in the repository (as it's able to find its versioning numbers), but then reports e-wm not available? How do I install this package? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list | grep e-wm e-wm - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 e-wm - 0.16.999.050+svnr37988-r0.1 - e-wm-dbg - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 e-wm-dev - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 e-wm-fm-data - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 e-wm-locale-bg - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - bg translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-ca - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - ca translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-de - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - de translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-eo - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - eo translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-es - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - es translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-fi - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - fi translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-fr - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - fr translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-fr-ch - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - fr_CH translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-hu - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - hu translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-it - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - it translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-ja - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - ja translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-ko - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - ko translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-pt-br - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - pt_BR translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-ru - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - ru translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-sl - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - sl translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-zh-cn - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - zh_CN translation for e-wm e-wm-locale-zh-tw - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - zh_TW translation for e-wm e-wm-theme-default - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 $ opkg list_installed | grep e-wm $ I might have made things worse by actually copying the raw files from the flash image onto the phone: scp /mnt/jffs2/usr/bin/enlightenment* r...@192.168.0.202:/usr/bin scp -r /mnt/jffs2/usr/lib/enlightenment/* r...@192.168.0.202: /usr/lib/enlightenment ... etc... But at least this brought me back to where I started (except enlightenment is installed, but not in opkgs' database). It is still looking for this nonexisting file. I also tried to remove ~/.e/ directory, with no luck. After starting X, the /tmp/x.log file looks like this: (II) verbosity set to 5 Using GLAMO 3362 card (II) Screen: 16/16 depth/bpp (II) vram size:4194304, onscreen vram size:614400, offscreen vram size:3579904 (II) initialising offscreen pixmaps Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 647 in kinput.c D-BUS per-session daemon address is: unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-B7VD7BIiIH,guid=417ab8356c2c4922c4da2d593898f595 [settings daemon] Forking. run with -n to prevent fork ESTART: 0.00010 [0.00010] - begin ESTART: 0.00194 [0.00185] - signals done ESTART: 0.01848 [0.01654] - determine prefix WARNING: Prefix guess was wrong. Guessed: /usr Tried to find file: /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj WARNING: Enlightenment could not determine its installed prefix and is falling back on the compiled in default: /usr You might like to try setting the following environment variables: E_PREFIX - points to the base prefix of install E_BIN_DIR- optional in addition to E_PREFIX to provide a more specific binary directory E_LIB_DIR- optional in addition
Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
On Thursday 25 December 2008, William Kenworthy wrote: encryption has overhead - more than a 160 characters allows without tricks. Sure it has overhead. This makes it useless for text messages. Control messages however can be very short. I tried it with the string 'loc' (3 bytes/chars) and the gpg signature is 99 bytes long. That sums up to 102 bytes and fits easily into a 160char SMS. Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger flor...@hackenberger.at www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Package categories for opkg
Le mardi 23 décembre 2008, Pander a écrit : Hi all, At the moment these are the opkg categories (as seen on http://opkg.org): ... Would it be more appropriate to use the relevant Debian/Ubuntu dpkg categories? ... While looking into this, perhaps a new category called GPS needs to be added to the Debian/Ubuntu world. In short wat was the reason for these alternative categories and is this consolidation of categories welcomed? Hi, It is nice to see someone interested in this question again. Last time we discussed it on the documentation mailing list, there was a consensus to: - Adopt as a reference the freedesktop.org applications categories. - Deviate from it when there is a good reason to (because we recognize that a freesmartphone is not a freedesktop !). - Eventually go back upstream to them with our propositions. This is not only relevant for opkg.org, but also for projects.openmoko.org, wiki.openmoko.org, package managers and main application launcher. Because these are decentralized, it will be especially hard to get the same category list everywhere. I think we are in need for a champion, someone who will work diplomatically with others towards harmonizing the categories. Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment not starting anymore.
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:15:51 +0100, Ivar Mossin ivar.mos...@gmail.com wrote: anyway), it gives a clue. It is looking for the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj, which does not exist. But this is strange, as it didn't exist on the jffs2 flash image either. I thought something had gone wrong with enlightenment, so I decided to reinstall e-wm by using opkg e-wm remove. This was not possible without removing most of the installed software on the phone, so I decided to ignore its dependencies by using: $ opkg remove e-wm -force-depends Then I wanted to installed it again from repository: $ opkg install e-wm Installing e-wm (0.16.999.050+svnr37988-r0.1) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Package e-wm (parent e-wm) is not available from any configured src. * Failed to download e-wm. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? What is this message actually saying? Apparently it does find the e-wm package in the repository (as it's able to find its versioning numbers), but then reports e-wm not available? How do I install this package? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list | grep e-wm e-wm - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 e-wm - 0.16.999.050+svnr37988-r0.1 - e-wm-theme-default - 0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01 - The Enlightenment Window Manager Version 17 You need to opkg update - somehow you've got two versions of e-wm listed in the local (IE on the FreeRunner) package list. I'm not sure how that happened, unless you added a repository to the config. (check in /etc/opkg) svnr36882-r14.01 is the latest in the OM2008 repository, which matches with the svn versions of the other enlightenment packages you're seeing in 'opkg list', I don't know where it's getting the reference to svnr37988-r0.1... When you run 'opkg upgrade' or 'opkg list' it's NOT looking at the repository itself, it's looking at the package list locally on the FreeRunner that is constructed during 'opkg update'. THAT list contains a 'newer' version of e-wm (37988) so it picks that one, being the newest, but cannot actually find the package in the repository when it tries to download. For a quick fix (which might fix enlightenment but not address the cause of this problem) try: opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01_armv4t.opk opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/e-wm-theme-default_0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01_armv4t.opk That second one is the 'real' fix to your original issue - it contains /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj. I looked in my NAND (I usually run SHR from uSD but have 2008.12 on NAND) and sure enough there are illume.edj and asu.edj in that folder, no default.edj. I can only assume that they'd reconfigured it to use asu.edj instead of default.edj, but that a newer e-wm requires default.edj again. But again, none of this answers why it's looking for a newer svn version of e-wm than is actually in the repository, which makes me suspect that a repo was added somehow that contains the svnr37988-r0.1... It's not in 2008.8 repo, testing, or unstable AFAICS. So the steps I'd suggest are try manually installing the two packages noted above, then take a look in /etc/opkg and see what repositories are referenced, remove any inconsistencies, then try 'opkg update' and 'opkg upgrade'. j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Florian Hackenberger f.hackenber...@chello.at wrote: On Thursday 25 December 2008, William Kenworthy wrote: encryption has overhead - more than a 160 characters allows without tricks. Sure it has overhead. This makes it useless for text messages. Control messages however can be very short. I tried it with the string 'loc' (3 bytes/chars) and the gpg signature is 99 bytes long. That sums up to 102 bytes and fits easily into a 160char SMS. Cheers, Florian Some kind of authentication is on the todo list. What I was also thinking were a few other commands such as a lost mode where it will only display contact information for the owner. A tracking mode where it might send location every x minutes. I'd also like to add different return messages via smtp. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR]Opkg error
indeed there is a problem in the repository - the packages data in the testing repo says the package should be: MD5Sum: 4695ae7113d07344d8ac1d1b88ba9a05 Size: 18948 Filename: libframeworkd-glib0_0.0.1+gitr26330e402a603eebdeb71522893679aea38009ce-r0.1_armv4t.ipk But the actual file is 18952 bytes, with md5sum of abd64e8dc04f54292bbc844e67e2c8b5 j On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:24:34 +0100, Giorgio Marciano ledz...@writeme.com wrote: Today i gave opkg update opkg upgrade and i've obtained the following error Collected errors: * Package libframeworkd-glib0 md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'. then i tried again with opkg update and then opkg upgrade but nothing, still same error. Some suggestions? -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
You can find out the version you have via software query. otherwise take the front faceplate off and see the PCB rev printed there. There are roughly 3K V5 in the feild all built early on.. in june/july I believe, so the datecode can also give you a clue. There is no rework for a5-a6. the differences are listed in the wiki and I'm fairly confident that a large portion of the a5 were reworked, covered this a long time ago.. anyways, both a5/a6 can be reworked to improve the buzz issue some people have. Neil Jerram wrote: 2008/12/17 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us: I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 hardware fixes. Before that I'd like to know how I find out which version I have. Tried googling/wiki/just looking inside, but couldn't find anything clear yet. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Editing numbers, in contacts for instance
2008/12/25 Wendy wendy_h...@openmoko.com Hi, try to scroll up and down on the keyboard, then you will have numbers or symbols. check here:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Keyboard Thanks, this is a bit embarrassing from my side, but I got so used to the way FDOM has offered keyboard interactivity the last months, that I never really looked into the working of the original OM keyboard, which I thought really unuseful without the tab-key (think of tapping things in the terminal...) I will try to live with the default way of keyboard interaction now. Although I also managed to experiment with the matchbox keyboard in the meantime. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1
Thanks Bearstech! If you guys get a chance to join us at CES I'd love to show off hackable to the press. Marcus Bauer wrote: Hey guys, fully in the spirit of release early, release often we want to announce hackable:1, a new distribution for the Neo and other hackable devices. What is hackable:1 ? Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for everybody else. The important part is that hackable:1 is not only open to community contributions but we are actively encouraging them and we do the full development in public on IRC channels and mailing lists - no decisions behind closed doors, no sudden changes of directions. We want to produce a stable, linearly evoluting platform. Hackable:1 is running from 2GB SD cards simply because they have become so cheap that there is little reason to fiddle with the restrictions of the limited space of the built-in flash. Therefore we can ship with a full set of development tools ready installed to get you started with mobile development in minutes. No more need to wait 20 hours until Openembedded is finished with its set up. No more need for flashing - but we will also soon provide a flash image for those of you who need the space on the SD card for other things. We have a full LAMP stack too, for those countless of you out there who are more proficient with PHP than C or C++. Not to forget that you can make phone calls and send SMS... And you can even print. Get yourself a USB gender changer and connect your printer to the Neo. It works - beat that all you iPhonies out there! (A gender changer is just a few dollars on ebay). Then what have we done so far? == Some of the highlights: * we packaged OM2007.2 as .deb packages: dialer, sms, contacts, neod, phone-kit, gsmd, matchbox, panel applets * we improved sound quality (fixes for gsmd for echo cancellation) * another fix for gsmd to suppress the reregistering of some phones (OM bug #1024) * extended the aux and power menus. For example you can now easily switch between USB host and device mode or connect to a bluetooth keyboard * a simple onscreen keyboard with all hacker characters on a short press on the AUX button * GPS works out of the box * switch on and off accelerometer-based autorotate * fixed matchbox-windowmanager crash-bug * if sms send fails there is now an error dialog * many GPRS providers preconfigured for easy use * matchbox-stroke is included (it is fun!) * preconfigured for GSM multiplexing, i.e. having calls and sms coming in during a GPRS session (not activated by default) * x2x works out of the box (using your desktop mouse and keyboard on the Neo) * that battery applet shows plenty of battery info now (you need to install the notification-daemon first) Where do we want to go? === First of all: we want to make it a community distribution implementing (with some freedom) the GNOME Mobile stack. Thus come and join us on our mailing lists, on IRC #hackable1 on freenode, file bug reports for enhancements and start to hack yourself. If you have eyes that can distinguish between more than black, white and orange, and you have graphical skills, we will be happy for your help to add colors to the theme! In general we intend to work closely together with other open source projects, most notably DebianOnFreerunner where remarkable work has been done already. How do you install it? == It comes as a tarball, thus you need a 2 GB SD card (SanDisk work well) and a card reader for your PC / Laptop. You just have to partition and format the SD card and then simply untar the tarball onto it. Five minutes and you are done, no lengthy installation process or flashing. Your flash even remains untouched, so you can easily give it a test run. About Bearstech === Bearstech is a French FLOSS innovation engineering company. Bearstech is also the French distributor of Openmoko products and supporting the efforts of hackable:1 with infrastructure and developers. You can find everything and involve yourself in: http://www.hackable1.org The download is at: http://www.hackable1.org/hackable1/?C=M;O=D The installation guide is at: http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Documentation -- The hackable:1 developer team -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
The A5 to A6 rework was handled at the factory for the most part. see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_revisions for details. WRT the a5/a6 rework, I've got to get back with Joerg and Tony Tu to finalize the SOP and then put in place a testing method. One problem is that the Buzz can be location specific. For example, when the Buzz first became apparently Sean flew out to me in SF with a sample of phone that buzzed. Mine didnt. ( he was on other travel ) Anyways, we turned on his phone--no buzz. Now imagine if you have a buzz and send it to person X to fix it. As part of the testing person X would operate the phone and verify that it buzzed. Well, what if it doesnt? does he apply the fix? If it does buzz applying the fix is a straightforward decision. On completion of the fix the phone is tested again and then returned. Does it still buzz after it's returned? So, here is where I stand. my todo list. 1. finalize the SOP and testing protocal. 2. recruit individuals and organizations to do the field rework. 3. Procure parts required for the fix. These parts will be given away either through distys or direct to people willing to do fixes. 4. Finalize rewards program. I'm not likely to get to any of this done before CES which is jan 8-11. It's not a matter of me taking time off for Xmas, but rather the Everest of other tasks and priorities. Experienced sherpas apply within. Staley, Daniel L wrote: I have a V5 unit and would be interested in getting a full upgrade if I sent it off to get the soldering done. Not sure if you wanted people to respond to that question, or you were just thinking aloud... -Dan Staley From: Joel Newkirk [freerun...@newkirk.us] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:33 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:11 -0800, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, any update on this? Still waiting for an answer from OM. (I posted a question in this thread Friday regarding Tanatalum instead of Ceramic cap - the difference being $0.25 vs $2 each in qty 100, and my radio guy thinks Tant is a good choice for filtering, but waiting for word from Steve or Jeorg) Boss said he's willing to do the jobs, but we have no caps, can't order until we know which ones to order. We're also hoping to find out what help them/reward them involves. (IE, OM provide parts? OM underwrite repair? Cover part of repair? Send me a Christmas card? :) Boss ballparked the job at $25 but nothing definite yet. (depends in part on parts) The only concern they had when I showed them the pdf and my FreeRunner was regarding damaging the housing while soldering - at which point I demonstrated removing the board from the FR with about 30 seconds effort and they said ooh OK then. :) I find myself wondering how many V5 FreeRunners are in the field and whether the owners thereof would want the ability to 'update' to the V6 hardware fixes. I know of the cap on the uSD pins fix for the GPS vs uSD issue (though not the identity of that capacitor), I don't know what change allows a V6 to run without battery or if other differences exist. Dropping a cap on the two pins of the uSD socket is pretty trivial if you're already doing SMD work, so if we're already performing the Big-C rework I'd guess (pure personal speculation) that we could add the cap to the SD lines for little more expense and time. j On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: I'm going to talk to the guys at work tomorrow and show them the rework PDF - we are equipped to make this fix, could probably offer it inexpensively to those nearby (southeastern North Carolina) or those willing to ship. (among other things - like security systems and internet services - we repair handheld radios and wireless broadband networking gear, including replacing BGAs and more mundane SMD components) I'm betting we have the resistors on hand, would probably need to order a hundred or so of the caps. I'll post back here if the answer is positive. We're located in Hamlet NC, near Ft Bragg, but we're gearing up to offer repairs nationwide for specific wireless networking gear, so shipping and processing of customer repair items in/out is forthcoming anyway, this is just a different board with a much simpler fix to be performed, I'm just not sure they'll be interested in offering it as inexpensively as I'd like. j On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:29:32 -0800, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise your hand, drop me a mail. st...@openmoko.com Sargun Dhillon wrote: Very cool. Now, all the hardware hackers out there who want to make a buck to fix our Free
Damn... 8GB dead
Urgh. Somehow I managed to destroy my 8GB card... I wanted to try Hackable on it, but on the FR there's no mkfs.vfat, and the Linux box won't recognise the card anymore except as a floppy-drive... *groan* Paul -- It does not always pay to have a golden tongue unless one has the ability to hold it. -Paul Johnson http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
WRT the hole. I have visit the emergency room to get stitches in my tongue. happy hole e days fla...@correo.ugr.es wrote: Evgeny Karyakin wrote: Dunno... First link propose a case suggesting iPhone look, I think we shouldn't follow everything Apple come out with, and I second to pill case. When I first saw GTA02 look, I thought it's ugly, but that was just because it's unusual; now I like it and like a bottom hole around antenna. The hole is important. You can tie the phone to a string. And it is easier for the do-it-yourselfers to make brackets for car/bicycle use. Furthermore, the hole has become, in my opinion, a symbol of the phone. A powerful image. I think it could be powered as a distinctive trait in marketing. [About keyboard] All that you said makes a lot of sense to me. Also, I haven't missed a physical keyboard on the freerunner, if anyone cares. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Release of Homzoneapplet for FSO and SHR
Hi, i just released a new version of my Homezoneapplet. It now works great with SHR. You should read the readme for help to enable the applet. http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/om-homezone ps. does someone know a documentation for the qtopia dbus gsm api? i googled a bit but found not much. Phil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Damn... 8GB dead
Hi, Paul p...@nlpagan.net writes: Urgh. Somehow I managed to destroy my 8GB card... I wanted to try Hackable on it, but on the FR there's no mkfs.vfat, and the Linux box won't recognise the card anymore except as a floppy-drive... Have you tried creating a new partition table with fdisk? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Thanks Dr. H.N. you put it all very well. I'll inline some additions. Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Leonti, sorry I was a bit too ironical in my answer. So let me explain. Nikolaus Am 17.12.2008 um 15:24 schrieb Leonti Bielski: Nikolaus, I don't get what's wrong with my questions? Nothing is wrong with the questions. Only expecting precise answers from the project team before there is an official annoucement of a new device. That is what I allude to with my comments. I have no inside information but I know from other such projects that there is not really a decision being taken at a certain time that can be published before the first samples come out of the factory. It is always possible in such projects to have late changes and revise some previously done decisions. E.g. making the device a little larger. Removing a camera because the supplier can't deliver etc. For the GTA01 and 02 the OM hardware team has been more open - but they also had to discuss endlessly about changed decisions and slipping time schedules. This draws a lot of attention from the real project and does not help to make it faster. There is sort of a rule I've tried to get people to adopt and that rule is are you certain? that is, I don't think we should say things until we are relatively ( wiggle room) certain about the details of the product. Acting otherwise just raises expectations that are universally dashed. It's an osborne effect squared. There are critical milestones That everyone who followed the launch of Freerunner should remember. I showed the phone at CES jan 07. we were just entering DVT. design verification test. DVT, you can HOPE, will last about 2 months for a given product. Then comes PVT, production verification test, likewise lasting two months.. YOU CAN HOPE. finally comes MP, mass production. Again, you can HOPE this is about two months from start to first phones out. So. Month X start DVT month X+2 start PVT Month X+4 start MP Month X+6 FCS ( first customer ship) Month X+6.5 Shelf date. That is a NOMINAL schedule. During any phase of this schedule design changes both major and minor can occur. The probability of changes goes down from month X. ordinarily I start to feel comfortable around month X. I'm not at that point. In addition, there are other schedule drivers. 1. State of the software. suffice it to say GTA02 shipped a wee bit early WRT to software stability and completeness. That will change with GTA03. With Freerunner we were really pulled in two directions, pulled in one direction by the 'release early, release often philosophy and pulled in the other direction by our desire to ship something that was more consumer ready than the Neo1973. This time around we will err on the side of consumer ready. The back to the basics approach will rule in GTA03. 2. The state of Freerunner. Not many know this but the GTA03 schedule has taken hits so that we could support the Freerunner better. That's an on going concern and a balancing act. In the end it is a no win decision. That is, on one hand some will demand that each and every Freerunner issue be settled and on the other hand some will want their GTA03 ASAP. Sean, Wolfgang and I own that decision and the inevitable and righteous complaints that result from it. It goes with the territory. 3. the state of the channel. One major difference this year is we have partners with businesses, our distributors. If they don't sell, we don't sell. That entails several things that people may not be aware of. Let me explain. First and foremost the disty will be part of the launch early on. they will get phones to test early in the process. Their feedback about the stability of the software and the marketing plans and messages will be vital. If it's not ready in their eyes, then that's critical feedback. Secondly, the disty have to have a good freerunner business to make for a good GTA03 business. Market development , like product development, has its bugs ( hmm maybe a trac system is in order...) So from a marketing perspective we will be putting additional effort into the Freerunner to improve the strength of the channel. It's good to remember that since Jan of 2007 we had to build a phone and a sales channel, no small feat. Luckily we have community support on all fronts. Now, since this is an open source project everybody wants to be included on every decision. Much as I would like to implement a direct democracy WRT to every LOC, every trace on the PCB, every resistor and cap, every subtle curve in the ID, every boss and screw in the mech design, lines of responsibility are inevitably required to get things done. The compromise we have chosen is one that allows people to change the decisions we have to take. Change the code if they like, change the ID if they like. And with the right program in place we even allow people to change the EE design if they like. There is, I
Re: Getting rid of Android
Actually I remember reflashing NAND uBoot at some point in time when I was installing Android, so I might restore that first... V. Flyin_bbb8 wrote: how about the nor uboot? same list? On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM, vsviri...@exceede.com mailto:vsviri...@exceede.com wrote: Yes, Android is flashed into the unit. SD Card contains 2 partitions as per Android requirements. The partitions i mention are showing up in dfu-util -l, which lists all the alternates available. (Normally uboot, kernel, rootfs, bootsplash, etc). But they all appear as UNKNOWN in the list. I cannot flash it using dfu-util even w/o the SD card present. Orlando-13 wrote: I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. Probably not actually, android (AFAICT) must be installed on the internal flash, not the SD, so content of the SD card is pretty irrelevant. I don't think I've ever tried to go back from android to another distro on my FR, so I can't help with the original question either. /I'm helping! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p1762810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Unusable due freezings?
Giorgio Marciano ha scritto: Hi and merry christmas to all. How can i change illume configs for Engine from SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE? Simply go to the wrench in the top left corner of the traybar, and you will find the Engine voice on the menu. did you have problem with qtopia (like sms app, dialer, ecc.) with the illume? No, on the contrary, the Qtopia apps are less buggy and I feel them more responsive :) Good wor ;) thanks Nothing ;) - Original Message - From: Francesco de Virgilio To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: [2008.12] Unusable due freezings? Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:58:56 +0100 Hi all! First of all, greetings for bring us OM 2008.12, it's probably one of the most great releases of OM (the boot in particular is rally cool!). Now, I flashed it yesterday, as follows: dfu-util -a kernel -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin And all it's ok. GSM works, SMS also, GPS, ssh and internet (through USB) out of the box, etc etc. I installed illume theme as follows: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop vi /etc/enlightment/default-profile Change it in -profile illume shutdown now And after changing Illume configs for Engine from SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE it works very fine. BUT Sometimes, it appears almost randomly, OM 2008.12 freezes. It's a total blocking of the system, nothing works through touchscreen or ssh, and I'm forced to reboot. It could be while I'm using TangoGPS or while I'm pressing the answering button, when I talk or when I close a call. What do you think about this? I'll test OM 2008.12 for one or two days but, if this will continue, I will flash in SHR, in the hope it will increase the usability of the phone... but, it is a pity, OM 2008.12 with illume is really cool ;) -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] omnewrotate 0.5.2 test package
Could someone with 2008.12 please check if the package at http://files.1407.org/openmoko/rotate/omnewrotate_0.5.2-r0_armv4t.ipk solves issue #4 [1]? If so, I'd be willing to release 0.5.3 fixing it since it isn't yet really using libframeworkd-glib... [1] http://code.google.com/p/omnewrotate/issues/detail?id=4 -- P'tang! Today is Setting Orange, the 68th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian/FSO/other?] some simple scripts I've developed
I've written a few scripts to help manage some things on my Freerunner. I'm sharing them in case anyone else might find them useful to either use or just see as a reference for how to code something themselves. One is a very simple IMAP mail reader program. The rest are a set of scripts mainly written to provide a GUI interface to several command only type things. They also handle things like dimming the screen and powering on/off wifi. I initially started writing them on 2007.2 but updated most of it to work on debian which is what I use now. More info about them can be found here along with download links: http://people.engr.ncsu.edu/jfthomps/freerunner/ Here are some things the collection of scripts can do: -launcher tab to easily launch most common apps; it only lists apps that have Main as a category in the .desktop file -wifi power on/off and ifup/ifdown eth0 -misc tab to do things like view battery status, change screen brightness, launch xkill, change usbmode, change screen orientation; really anything I need a button to do, I put here -lock tab that is mostly blank (so nothing accidentally gets run) with a really small enable/disable lock button at the bottom; I've since switched to just having the desktop get displayed for my lock mode, but the enable/disable button still works Josh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
opkg update is failing signature verification
opkg update is failing signature verification. is there a way to disable signature verification? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Well, I might be losing something, but... what happens if you press AUX + power? At least you have changed nor using a debubg board you should get a boot menu where you can choose to boot from the microsd card (you can change which one to use by pressing the aux button and select it with the power on one). Then you could boot from the microsd and rebuild your partitinons and get rid of Andrioid. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Vasili Sviridov escribió: Actually I remember reflashing NAND uBoot at some point in time when I was installing Android, so I might restore that first... V. Flyin_bbb8 wrote: how about the nor uboot? same list? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Report] - Buzz fix
Thanks.. I should have pointed out that if people can do before and after recordings that would be exceptionally cool. I guess I shoulda asked B4 xmas. If you've done a fix, send me photos, your contact information and I'll send you some belated gifts for the holiday. Special bonus for people who post vids. Just send a mail to elsie, chelsea and me and we'll decide on some goodies. Maybe Sean can do a special T shirt for the DIY masters. Michael Zanetti wrote: Hi! I just wanted to let you know that I have applied the Buzz fix to my Freerunner revision A5 according to this [1] paper and indeed the buzz is completely gone. Including the echo fix my Neo converted from the coolest toy to the coolest _phone_ I've ever had. I'm flashing 2008.12 right now. *very excited* Very big thanks to everyone involved working out this one! And thank you openmoko (the whole team) for this wonderful product! Michael [1] http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big- C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg update is failing signature verification
Hi Kevin, I think setting up a flag when configuring opkg may help. ./configure --disable-gpg In the latest version (after R189) on http://code.google.com/p/opkg/, there will no more signature warning message with the flag --disable-gpg. Cheers, Tick On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:08:09AM -0500, Kevin wrote: opkg update is failing signature verification. is there a way to disable signature verification? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] omnewrotate 0.5.2 test package
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Could someone with 2008.12 please check if the package at http://files.1407.org/openmoko/rotate/omnewrotate_0.5.2-r0_armv4t.ipk solves issue #4 [1]? If so, I'd be willing to release 0.5.3 fixing it since it isn't yet really using libframeworkd-glib... [1] http://code.google.com/p/omnewrotate/issues/detail?id=4 Seems to install fine for me. I'm running 2008.12. r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install /tmp/omnewrotate_0.5.2-r0_armv4t.ipk Installing omnewrotate (0.5.2-r0) to root... Configuring omnewrotate Also, running omnewrotate from the command line or icon works as expected - in other words, awesomely. ;-) Mark C. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
