Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-16 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
m...@3v1n0.net wrote:

 I've not tried recent versions of the Framework with the GPS, how long
 does it take generally to get the fix, nowadays?

On my 4.1, it usually takes less than 5 minutes (when not used for
several hours straight) or even less when the data are still hot ;)

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Dylan Reilly wrote:
 Audio Player
 
 When I started my quest, there was no music player that met my needs.
 The two that were close were pythm and mokoko. Mokoko has more
 potential, I believe. However, it has (had?) issues resuming from a
 suspend (crucial for me). That seems to imply an issue with gstreamer
 - which it utilizes for playback - and that is something I do not want
 to bother fixing. So, for the short term I turned to pythm and began
 hacking away at it. The following is a list of changes I made to the
 0.5.1 version:

If the sound does not restart playing on resume, it's likely an
issue with the ALSA output driver of gstreamer.
MPlayer and Pulseaudio had problems with that in the past, but were
fixed.
If it's that, you just have to fix the error handling so that if ALSA
returns -ESTRPIPE you call snd_pcm_resume();
(Maybe check for snd_pcm_state() == SND_PCM_STATE_SUSPENDED first)

HTH,

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SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel Spies
Hi community,

This is for Germans only: I just found a website [1] offering the Sandisk
Micro SD 8GB Class6 card for 4,90 EUR including shipping costs. I ordered
four of them, and am now waiting to receive them. As this MicroSD is stated
in the Working SD Cards section in the Wiki it maybe worth a look if you
don't have one already. 

As I didn't receive the cards yet, I cannot assure this service is
trustworthy. Just thought you may be interested.

When I receive the cards I will let you know for those who don't want to
loose their money ;) Please don't blame me if you order cards, but don't
receive them. Maybe just wait for my report... It also may be the price
will change at any time...

Cheers,
Daniel

[1]
http://www.gimahhot.de/m900-349203-0-0-0/sandisk-memory-stick-micro-m2-ultra-8-gb-mit-card-reader.html

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Re: QWO (was Re: handwriting recognition)

2009-01-16 Thread DJDAS
Josh Thompson ha scritto:
 Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/
 Bye :)
 

 On what distro are you using QWO?  I just tried it on SHR, and nothing ever 
 shows up.  If I ssh in to my FR with my display forwarded to my desktop and 
 run it, it seems to work ok.

 Anyone know how to make it show up in SHR?
   

There is a problem with localization variables, you should add in your 
profile scripts (you can use /etc/profile or create an executable script 
in /etc/profile.d) the following command:

export LC_ALL=C

Furthermore if you want to use special characters like accented or 
similar, you have to do some magic stuff :P to configure the xmodmap 
settings to enable the key codes, you can find some info (in Italian 
sorry, but you can use an automatic translator as it's not so complex 
speaking) here [1], you also will find a tar file containing all the 
files referenced in the post which let you use accented characters.

[1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,935.msg9276.html#msg9276

Bye :)



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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:26:23 am ka...@altern.org wrote:

 Since there is a known workaround, why doesn't it get applied?

I suspect the Nokia/Trolltech folks are busy with the Qt LGPL stuff.

Lorn did say he'd try to get a snapshot release out around the solstice but it 
didn't appear, so it'd be nice if those minor changes could get incorporated 
into it when it finally does appear.

cheers,
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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 3:17:11 am Gabriel wrote:

 Hackable1 is echo free no ?

Yup, that was what inspired me to do the QtE patch as that showed just how 
good the audio quality could be!

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[FSO] Bluetooth Networking with DBUS API

2009-01-16 Thread Michael Tansella
Hi,

Is there any howto for using FSO for SSH networking via Bluetooth. I know I 
have to use 

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged 
/org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth 
org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower 1

to Power it on and

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged 
/org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth 
org.freesmartphone.Resource.Enable

to enable the resource

But then I don't know how to continue. There are so many Methods and 
possibilities.
And what do I have to do on my Host (Ubuntu 8.10). The same as mentioned in 
the wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth ?

Greets
Michael

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Re: Re: Car Charger?

2009-01-16 Thread jeffrey . ratcliffe

On Jan 15, 2009 6:21pm, Josh Thompson om-c...@joshandbianca.net wrote:

http://www.extremepda.com/AUTOMOUNT-GN-LG.html


This looks very good. Can anyone recommend anything similar available in  
Germany?


Regards

Jeff
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Re: [Om2008.12] Remove Install Bar

2009-01-16 Thread boilers...@gmail.com
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:02:28 +1300
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 personally, i think the asu theme (the stock one installed on the
 freerunner) blows, and you'd be best off switching it for something
 ore useful - there are plenty around on the web. the illume one,
 included on the phone, doesn't have that bar in, and does include the
 decent keyboard, and the wrench for further config of illume


Hi Robin,

I like the asu theme and I'm comfortable with decompiling and recreating the 
edc / edj files.

I already knew all the web references you gave me
but I'm still unable to locate where the Install Bar is declared.

Any clue ?

Thanks,
Mike

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About the BRLCAD files I have created some time ago ...

2009-01-16 Thread Lothar Behrens

Hi,

I wondered why there is no link to the BRLCAD files I have created and  
then located at the following

page: http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html

I only found the page by searching the mailinglist about BRLCAD, but  
this is because I KNOW about

the existence of these files.

Wouldn't it be better to add a page with information more than only a  
list of files generated by the browser ?


http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/

Then there could added more stuff like editing the files to create  
more stuff. Should I, am I allowed to do so ?


Thanks

Lothar

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Re: results of a survey maemo vs openmoko

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
 Did anyone else ignore the original survey as unsolicited spam? I'd

i pondered the idea a while, but after some research i decided to take  
part.

 have probably completed it if they'd sent a mail to the mailing list
 asking people to take part, but sending it to individual users seemed
 to be bad netiquette.

fully agree. maybe you should drop them a mail about that?

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Re: About the BRLCAD files I have created some time ago ...

2009-01-16 Thread Pander
Hi all,

The download with the CAD file is a bit messy, I've a cleaned up
version. To who can I send this for review and subsequent hosting on the
downloads?

Regards,

Pander

Lothar Behrens wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I wondered why there is no link to the BRLCAD files I have created and
 then located at the following
 page: http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html
 
 I only found the page by searching the mailinglist about BRLCAD, but
 this is because I KNOW about
 the existence of these files.
 
 Wouldn't it be better to add a page with information more than only a
 list of files generated by the browser ?
 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/
 
 Then there could added more stuff like editing the files to create more
 stuff. Should I, am I allowed to do so ?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Pichon
Daniel Spies a écrit :
 Hi community,
 
 This is for Germans only: I just found a website [1] offering the Sandisk
 Micro SD 8GB Class6 card for 4,90 EUR including shipping costs. I ordered
 four of them, and am now waiting to receive them. As this MicroSD is stated
 in the Working SD Cards section in the Wiki it maybe worth a look if you
 don't have one already. 
 
 [1]
 http://www.gimahhot.de/m900-349203-0-0-0/sandisk-memory-stick-micro-m2-ultra-8-gb-mit-card-reader.html
 

Hi Daniel,

Your link leads to a memory stick micro card with a card reader (sold
38,94€), not a MicroSD card.

I can't find any 8Gb MicroSD card on their website, so I find two
explanations :
 - they are sold out ;
 - the low price was a mistake and they removed the product when they
saw it.


Cheers,

Nicolas.

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Re: FSO unstable upgrade errors alsa-states and initscripts-openmoko

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
 and the feeds from . . .
 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/feeds/

 As far as I can determine both initscripts and openmoko-initscripts are
 coming from the same feed.

a short survey shows to me that the packages are identical, contentwise.
i assume someone renamed initscripts because it clashes with some naming  
conventions. iirc opkg totally lacks any means to handle this kind of  
conflicts, you are forced to manage that manually.

 From this site images have been posted on a fairly regular basis.  For
 example, the current kernel image is
 uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.bin
 which appeared on Jan 13th.
 The latest rootfs image is . . .
 openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090115-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 which was appeared on Jan 15th.

 I cannot boot from any rootfs from this site after their Jan 8th rootfs.

probably something went wrong in the build process? you should definitley  
file a bug report at the fso tra
 trac.freesmartphone.org

 My FR stalls during startup before any X stuff is loaded.  The last  
 message
 I see before it stalls says . . .
 Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd comptibility daemon: (OK)

well, at least the sshd should run already, fso-gpsd should be started  
rather late.
login to the fr and remove
initscripts
then do
ls -R /etc/rc*  /tmp/alogfile
and post content of that file, if a reboot still does not work.


 Then just hangs there . . .

with the initscripts packages conflicting, there's probably some kind of  
deadlock.

 Can you recommend any other source where I can try an FSO install?

nope. i do use debian with fso, which works different (and anyway i did  
never flash any images).

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Pub meet: Cambridge, UK, 30.1.2009

2009-01-16 Thread Tom Yates
There will be a Cambridge OpenMoko pub meet at the Granta, which 
apparently is on Newnham Terrace., next door to Darwin College, at 7.30pm 
on friday 30.1.2009.  All are welcome; if you have an OpenMoko, you are 
encouraged to bring it.  For those navigating by silicon, the postcode is 
apparently CB3 9EX.

To be directly informed about future meets in Cambridge, and/or to 
have a hand in planning them, please join the mailing 
list at http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/om-cambridge .


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Re: [SHR] How to reset to SHR Illume theme

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Vlug
I tried this method and it worked fine for me. Thanks.
See also: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wrench

Bryan DeLuca wrote:
 I would reset the theme with enlightenment_remote.  Here's how from an SSH 
 connection as root:
 
 # First set the variable for the E socket
 export E_IPC_SOCKET=`ls /tmp/enlig*-root/disp*|cut -d\| -f1`
 # Here is setting back to the SHR illume default theme
 enlightenment_remote -theme-set theme 
 /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume-shr.edj
 # Now restart E
 enlightenment_remote -restart
 
 # You can also get a list of the current E theme with:
 
 enlightenment_remote -theme-list
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 -Bryan

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Freerunner corrupts dhcp forwarding of Linksys WRE54G wireless range extender

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Vlug
I am using a Linksys WRE54G wireless range extender to increase the
coverage of my wireless LAN.
When my Neo FreeRunner gets an IP address from the DHCP server (behind
the WRE54G), subsequent requests for an IP address from other computers
fail.
Resetting the WRE54G by unplugging it fixes this problem.
I am surprised by this behavior because in theory, the WRE54G should
only forward network packets...

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Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot

2009-01-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, January 15, 2009 a las 04:41:13PM +0100, Korbinian Rosenegger 
escribió:

 Hi
 
 On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 16:21 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  my small script monitoring the events/0 proc is logging as well when the
  runaway occures, date and uptime:
  
  # cat runaway.log 
  Wed Jan 14 01:20:04 CET 2009
   01:20:04 up 18:26,  0 users,  load average: 0.42, 0.63, 0.49
  Thu Jan 15 14:49:19 CET 2009
   14:49:19 up 18:26,  0 users,  load average: 0.53, 0.76, 0.64
  
  do you see the interesting point? the problem is uptime-driven!
 
 18 * 3600 + 26 * 60 = 66360
 
 Interesting, since it is only ~14 Minutes above 65536 and your script
 checks about every 10 Minutes (i think). So maybe there's a unsigned int
 overflow or a similar problem somewhere?

after the yesterday re-boot at ~16pm the next runaway has just occured
just at the scheduled time at 10:17am:

Fri Jan 16 10:17:26 CET 2009
 10:17:26 up 18:17,  1 user,  load average: 0.27, 0.36, 0.33

this time the checking was done every 60 seconds which explains that it
was detected 9 minutes earlier after 18:17; it is safe to assume that
the runaway is not before 18:16, i.e.:

(18*3600)+(16*60)
65760

I will file this into the ticket
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//1597

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[Om2008.12] Dbus ? Frameworkd ? Headset ?

2009-01-16 Thread boilers...@gmail.com
Hi All,

I'm trying to debug the OpenmokoFramework back-end
to get some notification when I plug / unplug the headset.

I've installed mickeydbus ( 
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=python-helpers.git;a=summary ) and when I run 
it with mdbus -s -l
I only get some (every ~30 seconds):


listening for signals on SystemBus from service 'all', object 'all'...

 [SIGNAL]org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PropertyModifiedfrom :1.0 
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_power_supply_battery_bat
(dbus.Int32(1), 
dbus.Array([dbus.Struct((dbus.String(u'battery.reporting.rate'), 
dbus.Boolean(False), dbus.Boolean(False)), signature=None)], 
signature=dbus.Signature('(sbb)')))

 [SIGNAL]org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PropertyModifiedfrom :1.0 
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_power_supply_battery_bat
(dbus.Int32(1), 
dbus.Array([dbus.Struct((dbus.String(u'battery.reporting.rate'), 
dbus.Boolean(False), dbus.Boolean(False)), signature=None)], 
signature=dbus.Signature('(sbb)')))


and nothing happens when I plug / unplug the headset
nor when I create / delete a file.

Then I've installed cli-framework ( 
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=summary )
and when I run it that's the result:


./cli-framework
ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on 
org.freesmartphone.DBus:/org/freesmartphone/DBus: 
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The 
name org.freesmartphone.DBus was not provided by any .service files
DBus Exception. dbus-hlid not installed
DBus Exception. dbus-hlid not installed
DBus Exception. dbus-hlid not installed
freesmartphone.org interactive command line


hehe I'm missing something :)

Question:
how do I get notifications about headset plug / unplug insertion ?


Thanks for supporting,
have a nice day.
Mike

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Re: Re: Car Charger?

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
 This looks very good. Can anyone recommend anything similar available in
 Germany?

almost every cheap mobile shop or 99ct shop should have those available.

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Re: FSO unstable upgrade errors alsa-states and initscripts-openmoko

2009-01-16 Thread qhaz



arne anka wrote:
 
 and the feeds from . . .
 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/feeds/

 As far as I can determine both initscripts and openmoko-initscripts are
 coming from the same feed.
 
 a short survey shows to me that the packages are identical, contentwise.
 i assume someone renamed initscripts because it clashes with some naming  
 conventions. iirc opkg totally lacks any means to handle this kind of  
 conflicts, you are forced to manage that manually.
 
 From this site images have been posted on a fairly regular basis.  For
 example, the current kernel image is
 uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.bin
 which appeared on Jan 13th.
 The latest rootfs image is . . .
 openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090115-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 which was appeared on Jan 15th.

 I cannot boot from any rootfs from this site after their Jan 8th rootfs.
 
 probably something went wrong in the build process? you should definitley  
 file a bug report at the fso tra
 trac.freesmartphone.org
 
 My FR stalls during startup before any X stuff is loaded.  The last  
 message
 I see before it stalls says . . .
 Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd comptibility daemon: (OK)
 
 well, at least the sshd should run already, fso-gpsd should be started  
 rather late.
 login to the fr and remove
 initscripts
 then do
 ls -R /etc/rc*  /tmp/alogfile
 and post content of that file, if a reboot still does not work.
 

 Then just hangs there . . .
 
 with the initscripts packages conflicting, there's probably some kind of  
 deadlock.
 
 Can you recommend any other source where I can try an FSO install?
 
 nope. i do use debian with fso, which works different (and anyway i did  
 never flash any images).
 
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Thanks Arne for trying to shed some light on this one.
I'll follow up with a bug report.
I can't seem to ssh into neo.  Mind you, I have flashed s many images in
the last couple of days, I hardly know what I have now!  Ha!  All I know is
that there is no rootfs from the FSO reps that works for me after Jan 12
release.
I'll keep picking away it, thank you for your input so far.

cheers
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Fwd: Re: SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel Spies

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:35:44 +0100
From: Daniel Spies daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com
To: Nicolas Pichon nicolas.pic...@luceor.com
Reply-To: daniel.sp...@fuceekay.com

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:58:42 +0100, Nicolas Pichon
nicolas.pic...@luceor.com wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel,
 
 Your link leads to a memory stick micro card with a card reader (sold
 38,94€), not a MicroSD card.
 
 I can't find any 8Gb MicroSD card on their website, so I find two
 explanations :
  - they are sold out ;
  - the low price was a mistake and they removed the product when they
 saw it.
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Nicolas.
 

Hi Nicolas,

Yes, I see now the price is changed. 

The card is indeed plugged in a memory stick adapter, but you can remove it
from there and get a normal microSD card. This is the original description
of Sandisk:
http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(2621)-SDMSM2Y-8192-A11M-SanDisk_Mobile_Ultra_Memory_Stick_Micro_M2_8GB_Card.aspx

But you're right, the price was a mistake, sorry therefore :(

This is the mail that I received:

[quote]
leider müssen wir Ihnen mitteilen, dass der Verkäufer einen falschen
Preis eingestellt hat. Da dieser Preis weit ab vom Marktpreis und
offensichtlich falsch war, ist der Verkäufer nicht an dieses Angebot
gebunden und muss die Bestellung nicht annehmen. Somit besteht leider auch
keine Möglichkeit des Schadensersatzes. Es tut uns sehr Leid, auch für
uns als Vermittler sind solche Fehler sehr ärgerlich. [...]
[/quote]

They say the price was a mistake by the seller and they are very sorry for
the issue.

Cheers,
Daniel

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Re: [Om2008.12] Dbus ? Frameworkd ? Headset ?

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
i think, there's a rule in fso, matching headset plugging and subsequently  
causing actions, check rules.yaml.
another way should be to enable logging in fso, set it to DEBUG and  
monitor the logfile while plugging/unplugging. that should provide some  
hints where to start looking from.

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Re: Fwd: Re: SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
 The card is indeed plugged in a memory stick adapter, but you can remove

nope, it is an usb adaptor.


 from there and get a normal microSD card.

nope! it is an MEMORY STICK!
that's a sony specific medium, but no SD CARD.

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Re: [Om2008.12] Dbus ? Frameworkd ? Headset ?

2009-01-16 Thread boilers...@gmail.com
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:43:18 +0100
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

 i think, there's a rule in fso, matching headset plugging and subsequently  
 causing actions, check rules.yaml.
 another way should be to enable logging in fso, set it to DEBUG and  
 monitor the logfile while plugging/unplugging. that should provide some  
 hints where to start looking from.


Hi Arne,

I'm not able to find any rules.yaml file, the command:
find /|grep -i rules\.yaml
return nothing.

Thank you

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Re: [Om2008.12] Dbus ? Frameworkd ? Headset ?

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
 I'm not able to find any rules.yaml file, the command:
 find /|grep -i rules\.yaml
 return nothing.


well, i assume 2008.12 _uses_ frameworkd. does it?
you should have
/etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml
then.

btw:
find / -name rules.yaml
is far more efficient than find ... | grep ...

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Re: Fwd: Re: SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel Spies
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:53:44 +0100, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de
wrote:
 The card is indeed plugged in a memory stick adapter, but you can remove
 
 nope, it is an usb adaptor.
 
 
 from there and get a normal microSD card.
 
 nope! it is an MEMORY STICK!
 that's a sony specific medium, but no SD CARD.
 

I need to apologize, I mixed it up with
http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(2630)-SDSDQY-8192-A11M-SanDisk_Mobile_Ultra_microSDHC_8GBCard.aspx
This is the microSD card I was talking about, so I'm lucky they canceled my
order :P

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Re: Pub meet: Cambridge, UK, 30.1.2009

2009-01-16 Thread gnublade
Not trying to usurp the thread but nothing happened with the plans to
have a london meetup.  Should we just go to this one instead or would
anyone be interested in holding one of our own?

Unfortunately I won't be able to make this one as I already have plans
for that weekend but would be good to get together with others and see
what they're running and share experiences, maybe even plan a few
hackathons.


2009/1/16 Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net:
 There will be a Cambridge OpenMoko pub meet at the Granta, which
 apparently is on Newnham Terrace., next door to Darwin College, at 7.30pm
 on friday 30.1.2009.  All are welcome; if you have an OpenMoko, you are
 encouraged to bring it.  For those navigating by silicon, the postcode is
 apparently CB3 9EX.

 To be directly informed about future meets in Cambridge, and/or to
 have a hand in planning them, please join the mailing
 list at http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/om-cambridge .


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Re: [Om2008.12] Dbus ? Frameworkd ? Headset ?

2009-01-16 Thread boilers...@gmail.com
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:02:30 +0100
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

  I'm not able to find any rules.yaml file, the command:
  find /|grep -i rules\.yaml
  return nothing.
 
 
 well, i assume 2008.12 _uses_ frameworkd. does it?
 you should have
 /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml
 then.
 
 btw:
 find / -name rules.yaml
 is far more efficient than find ... | grep ...


Hi,

/etc/freesmartphone/ is not present at all

 find / -name rules.yaml
 is far more efficient than find ... | grep ...

thanks you are so correct
but my fingers are so used to grep :) :|

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Re: FSO unstable upgrade errors alsa-states and initscripts-openmoko

2009-01-16 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 15 January 2009, qhaz wrote:
 From this site images have been posted on a fairly regular basis.  For
 example, the current kernel image is
 uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02.
bin which appeared on Jan 13th.
 The latest rootfs image is . . .
 openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090115-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 which was appeared on Jan 15th.

 I cannot boot from any rootfs from this site after their Jan 8th rootfs.
 My FR stalls during startup before any X stuff is loaded.  The last message
 I see before it stalls says . . .
 Starting freesmartphone.org gpsd comptibility daemon: (OK)

 Then just hangs there . . .

It isn't actually hung - the last init script has run, there is no X in those 
images to start, so you are just seeing the last console output. I don't know 
if this is intentional, but it may be part of a cleanup in preparation for 
Milestone 5. It is a nightly build from the unstable branch after all ;0)

 Can you recommend any other source where I can try an FSO install?

Use the Milestone 4.1 image for something known to mostly work. Nightly builds 
are pot luck - some are rather good, but not all.


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Re: [Om2008.12] Dbus ? Frameworkd ? Headset ?

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
 /etc/freesmartphone/ is not present at all

well, that most certainly means, you got no frameworkd.
no idea what is used instead.

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Re: Pub meet: Cambridge, UK, 30.1.2009

2009-01-16 Thread Gothnet



Andy Kilner wrote:
 
 Not trying to usurp the thread but nothing happened with the plans to
 have a london meetup.  Should we just go to this one instead or would
 anyone be interested in holding one of our own?
 
 Unfortunately I won't be able to make this one as I already have plans
 for that weekend but would be good to get together with others and see
 what they're running and share experiences, maybe even plan a few
 hackathons.
 
 


Not to continue usurping this thread but I'd probably be up for a few pints
and a natter about OM in a pub in London at some point. I have a friend who
also has an FR that would likely come along.
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Re: Pub meet: Cambridge, UK, 30.1.2009

2009-01-16 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/1/16 Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net:



 Andy Kilner wrote:

 Not trying to usurp the thread but nothing happened with the plans to
 have a london meetup.  Should we just go to this one instead or would
 anyone be interested in holding one of our own?

 Unfortunately I won't be able to make this one as I already have plans
 for that weekend but would be good to get together with others and see
 what they're running and share experiences, maybe even plan a few
 hackathons.




 Not to continue usurping this thread but I'd probably be up for a few pints
 and a natter about OM in a pub in London at some point. I have a friend who
 also has an FR that would likely come along.

London is good for me too (as well as Cambridge), date/time permitting.

  Neil

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London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello all,

If Cambridge can have a pub meet, why not London? :-) If you feel like it,
let's discuss here:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Openmoko_Local_Groups:_London

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Re: London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread gnublade
Not sure that wiki page is the best place to organise a meetup, as it
doesn't give notifications.  How about we just arrange it in this
thread?  If anyone objects we can set up our own list.

I suggest 11th Feb.  That's (roughly) 2 weeks after the Cambridge meet
so they won't clash and anyone that's interested can go to both, it's
mid week as well so I'll be more able to make it ;)

Location: TBD, anyone suggest a good, quiet, central pub?

2009/1/16 Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net:
 Hello all,

 If Cambridge can have a pub meet, why not London? :-) If you feel like it,
 let's discuss here:

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Openmoko_Local_Groups:_London

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Re: [Om2008.12] Remove Install Bar

2009-01-16 Thread Gothnet



boilersoup wrote:
 
 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:02:28 +1300
 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 personally, i think the asu theme (the stock one installed on the
 freerunner) blows, and you'd be best off switching it for something
 ore useful - there are plenty around on the web. the illume one,
 included on the phone, doesn't have that bar in, and does include the
 decent keyboard, and the wrench for further config of illume
 
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 I like the asu theme and I'm comfortable with decompiling and recreating
 the edc / edj files.
 
 I already knew all the web references you gave me
 but I'm still unable to locate where the Install Bar is declared.
 
 Any clue ?
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 

I did this previously by going through all the resources, one by one,
disabling them and then recompiling the theme. It took a couple of hours but
it worked. Whichever file you use to tell the theme to set a background
image, it's in there somewhere.

Of course, since then I've reflashed the phone several times and never did
note down what I'd done. D'oh.
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Re: shr- GPS howto?

2009-01-16 Thread Fernando Martins
Thanks Hemantha,
I could not yet come back to GPS testing but I'll try it.
Cheers,
Fernando

Hemantha Holla M wrote:


 On 14/01/2009, *Fernando Martins* ferna...@cmartins.nl 
 mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote:

 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells
 me no
 GPS found.


 Probably unrelated, but on Om2008.*, I saw this TangoGPS complaint 
 quite often ; this was because somehow 'lo' interface was down and was 
 solved by '/etc/init.d/networking restart'

 Hemantha

 Any further suggestions from here?

 Regards,

 Fernando


 Michael Sheldon wrote:
  You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then
 typing r
  and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data.
 
  Cheers,
Mike.
 
  Fernando Martins wrote:
 
  Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd
 (that's what's
  on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now
 that it is
  being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure
 out how to
  check whether gps is on/off and how to control it.
 
  Thomas des Courières wrote:
 
  did you
 try  http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ?
 
  2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi
 mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi
  mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi
 
  Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl
 mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl
  mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl
 mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes:
   receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services?
 
  1) is the GPS chip powered on?
  2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open?
  3) is that reading any data?
 
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Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display

2009-01-16 Thread Davide Scaini
i'm trying cellwriter on my debian...
- do you know a way to start it on e17 no in fullscreen mode?
I tried to pack qwo (deb) with no success right now... hope to have news
soon.
d


On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

 there's rosetta
  http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/
 and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso.
 but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the
 first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned.

 another attempt is cellwriter
  http://risujin.org/cellwriter
 which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now, have
 to try it come weekend.

 both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized
 shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every
 single hand.

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Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-16 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Friday 16 January 2009 06:23:29 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño):
 Daniel Willmann wrote:
  It actually does have memory, but lacks a backup battery which is
  supposed to power the memory of the GPS while main power is off.
  ogpsd already stores and restores almanac, GPS/UTC timeoffset and
  approximate last position. It's not restoring ephemeris because I had
  weird problems with that (TTFF increased to several minutes).

 Thanks for the information. How much do you think we could decrease the
 TTFF off, by restoring the ephemeris (in the right way, I guess)?

 I've not tried recent versions of the Framework with the GPS, how long
 does it take generally to get the fix, nowadays?

Around a minute here -- with disable restoring (due to the bug). Last time we 
enabled restoring in Taipei, we've seen TTFFs of 20-30s IIRC (Jan, Daniel?).

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[debian] e17 from fso repos

2009-01-16 Thread Davide Scaini
Hi all,
I installed e17 from fso repos (i removed the manually installed package I
was using)... but right now I'm not able to run englightenment_start at
startup as i did before in my .xsessionrc file because of this error:
error while loading shared libraries: libevas.so.0: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory

any hint is deeply welcome
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Re: [FSO] Bluetooth Networking with DBUS API

2009-01-16 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Friday 16 January 2009 10:04:22 schrieb Michael Tansella:
 Hi,

 Is there any howto for using FSO for SSH networking via Bluetooth. I know I
 have to use

 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged
 /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth
 org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl.SetPower 1

 to Power it on and

 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged
 /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/Bluetooth
 org.freesmartphone.Resource.Enable

 to enable the resource

The recommended way with the latest framework would be 

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage 
org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy uBT uenabled

 But then I don't know how to continue. There are so many Methods and
 possibilities.

frameworkd is not creating its own bluetooth stack, we will recommend using 
the BlueZ dbus interface for everything that it offers -- eventually 
completemented with some higher level APIs for scenario handling and file 
sharing.

So, for the time being, please refer to the bluez dbus API docs.

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Re: [Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?

2009-01-16 Thread macebre
Am Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2009 18:18:26 schrieb Olivier Migeot:
 Hi ev'ryone,

 I'm currently experimenting things with the Antaris chip, and I'm
 starting to like it - at least through FSO and it's gpsd compatibility
 layer. I've been browsing through the UBX protocol specification, and
 I stumbled upon one interesting parameter : the dynamic platform model
 of the navigational unit.

 Simply put : using this, we should be able to explain our chip that we
 are either by car or by foot, and get more serious tracklogs
 (providing this is doable, 'cause the doc states (SW Versions 3.04
 and higher), so I'm not sure whether or not we qualify).

 I did some quick tests, using my work phone as a reference (an HTC
 Trinity with a Sirf chip) : when logging car trips, both tracks are
 pretty close. Like a few meters. Far better than what I expected, at
 least. But when logging pedestrian trips (and I do quite a few), the
 Antaris starts to behave like ... a car. Every steep turn I took is
 throughly rounded on the Neo-based log. So I guess the current setting
 of our chip is car. So I wonder : does anyone here know whether we
 got version 3.04 or higher of the software?

 Hoping that we do (well, ignoring that maybe we don't, actually), I
 tried to feed the setting to the chip. The CFG-NAV2 UBX message that
 does that is 40 bytes long, and contains lt of more or less
 related information, which I certainly don't know how to feed. So I
 tried to first _get_ the setting, and re-set it verbatim (give or take
 the said parameter). But though there is a tool to generate UBX
 messages (ubxgen.py, on
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS ), I can't find a
 (successful) way to get the result from the chip. From my view, I
 should cat the commands to ttySAC1 and then read it. But I get nothing
 exciting that way...
Hi,

I looked up the 40 bytes long code with the u-center 5.06 tool with all 
default values except the dynamic platform model (it's the 5th byte). 
01 stationary
02 pedestrian
03 automotive
04 sea
05 - 07 airborne

And then generated a binary code:

FR$ ubxgen.py 06 1A 28 00 03 00 00 00 03 04 10 02 50 C3 00 00 18 14 05 3C 00 
03 00 00 FA 00 FA 00 64 00 2C 01 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6B 6D  CFG-NAV2-SET-AUTOMOTIVE.ubx

and

FR$ ubxgen.py 06 1A 28 00 02 00 00 00 03 04 10 02 50 C3 00 00 18 14 05 3C 00 
03 00 00 FA 00 FA 00 64 00 2C 01 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6B 6D  CFG-NAV2-SET-PEDESTRIAN.ubx

then set it with 
cat CFG-NAV2-SET-PEDESTRIAN.ubx  /dev/ttySAC1

I've got also the problem that there is no feedback it's set on the chip. 
Now I will test if there is a difference in gps tracks between this to options.



 I guess I should shut down FSO's GPS handling first, but how? Is
 stopping fso-gpsd enough? (I tried, but it didn't seem better)

 Any insights, somebody? Thanks.



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Re: About the BRLCAD files I have created some time ago ...

2009-01-16 Thread Claus Christmann
Please see inline and below...

On Friday 16 January 2009 04:54:41 Pander wrote:
 Hi all,

 The download with the CAD file is a bit messy, I've a cleaned up
 version. To who can I send this for review and subsequent hosting on the
 downloads?

 Regards,

 Pander

 Lothar Behrens wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I wondered why there is no link to the BRLCAD files I have created and
  then located at the following
  page: http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html
 
  I only found the page by searching the mailinglist about BRLCAD, but
  this is because I KNOW about
  the existence of these files.
 
  Wouldn't it be better to add a page with information more than only a
  list of files generated by the browser ?
 
  http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/
 
  Then there could added more stuff like editing the files to create more
  stuff. Should I, am I allowed to do so ?
 
  Thanks
 
  Lothar
 
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Hi,

I am the guy hosting the CAD files at the fore-mentioned address.
All I did in the beginning was to take the ProE files and transform them into 
IGES and STEP files.

I asked on the email list how to proceed and was then contacted by Michael 
Shiloh mich...@openmoko.org. I then made the files publicly available on my 
site (at http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html) and Michael 
moved the files from there to the http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ site.

I guess there is no need for me to be the man in the middle, but I have the 
online space and can host the files there. If somebody has some more CAD files 
and wants to get them to me, just let me know in private. I could create a 
wiki page the points to my site, but I guess we should try to get Michael to 
transfer all the new files to http://downloads.openmoko.org/CAD/ as well

Comments?

Thanks,

Claus

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Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Carlo Minucci
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

i a simple interface for update the maps of tangogps
it's optimized for low band usage

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Re: [Om2008.12] Dbus ? Frameworkd ? Headset ?

2009-01-16 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
No version of Openmoko 2008.x uses frameworkd. Please install FSO or SHR for 
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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

quite impressing a page ...

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Sascha Gering
arne anka wrote:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!
 
 quite impressing a page ...

try with ! :)


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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Michael Sheldon
arne anka wrote:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!
 
 quite impressing a page ...

  If your mail client is like mine then it's not including the ! as part 
of the URL and so you end up at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh 
(blank page) instead of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

  I've put in a redirect on the Yaouh page to avoid this problem in future.

  Cheers,
   Mike.


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Re: [Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?

2009-01-16 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
If you're already working on FSO, you might consider enhancing our dbus 
interface to support different navigational models. You'll find that 
extending our UBX parser helps us more than using ubxgen ;)

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Getting the following output in SHR, with maps stored in ~/Maps

40
Unhandled exception in thread started by
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/yaouh.py, line 78, in up_progressbar
  print _ + dir + _
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'dir' referenced before assignment

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Re: London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread Gothnet



Jan Henkins wrote:
 
 
 Opening shot:
 
 Depending on the number of people, if we are a small group (8 and less),
 The Dove Inn in Hammersmith is a really nice place. Food is OK, placement
 is fabulous (right on the Thames, see link below) and it's easy to get to.
 However, it is small and popular, we might have to book. What I really
 like about it, is that it has an enclosed area out the back looking on to
 the Thames if somedbody quickly need to nip out for a fix (be it getting
 a GPS or nicotine fix...).
 
 I will put this in the WIKI as a recommended venue.
 
 The Dove details:
 
 http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/159/Dove_Inn/Hammersmith
 
 
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I can do the 11th, and I'm not too fussy about venues as long as there's an
ale or two on tap :)

Hammersmith is fine.
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Re: London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread john
I am up for a few beers and some moko action if I am free on that date
(I will know soon).

Re: the venue

I don't mind the location but something more central might work better
depending who wants to go of course! However, you do have first dibbs
on location :)

John.

2009/1/16 Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net:
[snip]

 Depending on the number of people, if we are a small group (8 and less),
 The Dove Inn in Hammersmith is a really nice place. Food is OK, placement
 is fabulous (right on the Thames, see link below) and it's easy to get to.
 However, it is small and popular, we might have to book. What I really
 like about it, is that it has an enclosed area out the back looking on to
 the Thames if somedbody quickly need to nip out for a fix (be it getting
 a GPS or nicotine fix...).

 I will put this in the WIKI as a recommended venue.

 The Dove details:

 http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/159/Dove_Inn/Hammersmith

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, January 16, 2009 a las 02:14:55PM +, Michael Sheldon 
escribió:

 arne anka wrote:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!
  
  quite impressing a page ...
 
   If your mail client is like mine then it's not including the ! as part 
 of the URL and so you end up at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh 
 (blank page) instead of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

One should use terminal/xterm based MUA, like Mutt (like I do) and avoid
those pretty coloured user interfaces which are trying to 'think' for you
and mostly doing that wrong :-)

sorry, could not resist

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Carlo Minucci
The Digital Pioneer ha scritto:
 Getting the following output in SHR, with maps stored in ~/Maps
 
 40
 Unhandled exception in thread started by
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/yaouh.py, line 78, in up_progressbar
   print _ + dir + _
 UnboundLocalError: local variable 'dir' referenced before assignment

oh
you can delete this line, it's only for my debug

(sorry for my bad english)

you have check if in tangogps your repository is call OSM
my script (for now) search only OSM in the tangogps config file, and 
if there is another name can't find the right dir e generate this error

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Carlo Minucci a écrit :
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!
 
 i a simple interface for update the maps of tangogps
 it's optimized for low band usage

Just a question : how can you check the remote file without dowloading 
it before ? Do you use etag [1] to do that ?

Xavier.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_ETag


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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I use OSM repo, yes. I removed that line, but now it just breaks on another
one (line 82). So still no go.

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Carlo Minucci
Xavier Cremaschi ha scritto:
 Carlo Minucci a écrit :
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

 i a simple interface for update the maps of tangogps
 it's optimized for low band usage
 
 Just a question : how can you check the remote file without dowloading 
 it before ? Do you use etag [1] to do that ?

yes
etag

i check with this:

curl -I http://tile.openstreetmap.org/$file | grep ETag | cut -d \ -f 2

do you know a better way?

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Re: London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread gnublade
As an alternative venue Simon Brunning of London Python fame offers up
the Old Bank of England on Fleet Street.  (he's got plenty of
experience organising these sorts of things).

http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/

I'm happy with Jan's suggestion though, albeit being the far opposite
side of London from me.

2009/1/16 john jptmo...@gmail.com:
 I am up for a few beers and some moko action if I am free on that date
 (I will know soon).

 Re: the venue

 I don't mind the location but something more central might work better
 depending who wants to go of course! However, you do have first dibbs
 on location :)

 John.

 2009/1/16 Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net:
 [snip]

 Depending on the number of people, if we are a small group (8 and less),
 The Dove Inn in Hammersmith is a really nice place. Food is OK, placement
 is fabulous (right on the Thames, see link below) and it's easy to get to.
 However, it is small and popular, we might have to book. What I really
 like about it, is that it has an enclosed area out the back looking on to
 the Thames if somedbody quickly need to nip out for a fix (be it getting
 a GPS or nicotine fix...).

 I will put this in the WIKI as a recommended venue.

 The Dove details:

 http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/15/159/Dove_Inn/Hammersmith

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
 do you know a better way?

No it seems great, I just wanted to know ;)

Xavier. (will try the application)


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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Tilman Baumann
Carlo Minucci wrote:
 Xavier Cremaschi ha scritto:
 Carlo Minucci a écrit :
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

 i a simple interface for update the maps of tangogps
 it's optimized for low band usage
 Just a question : how can you check the remote file without dowloading 
 it before ? Do you use etag [1] to do that ?
 
 yes
 etag
 
 i check with this:
 
 curl -I http://tile.openstreetmap.org/$file | grep ETag | cut -d \ -f 2
 
 do you know a better way?

Doen't python have a http lib? Calling external apps is not really the 
fastest and safest way.

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Re: London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello John,

On Fri, January 16, 2009 14:23, john wrote:
 I am up for a few beers and some moko action if I am free on that date
 (I will know soon).

 Re: the venue

 I don't mind the location but something more central might work better
 depending who wants to go of course! However, you do have first dibbs
 on location :)

Please suggest a location. I find the BITE site an Indispensable (c)(tm)
tool in cases like this:

http://www.beerintheevening.com/

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Re: London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Henkins


On Fri, January 16, 2009 14:49, gnublade wrote:
 As an alternative venue Simon Brunning of London Python fame offers up
 the Old Bank of England on Fleet Street.  (he's got plenty of
 experience organising these sorts of things).

 http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/

 I'm happy with Jan's suggestion though, albeit being the far opposite
 side of London from me.

I'm very happy with this suggestion, haven't been in that neck of the
woods yet, so view it as an opportunity to see something new. Looks
stunning! Put it in the WIKI as evidence please!

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Re: results of a survey maemo vs openmoko

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Nijs
They wanted to only let active members take part in the survey if I remember 
correctly. By sending the mail to the mailinglist they can't prevent non-
active users not to participate.

depeje

On Thursday 15 January 2009 18:47:46 Joseph Reeves wrote:
 Did anyone else ignore the original survey as unsolicited spam? I'd
 have probably completed it if they'd sent a mail to the mailing list
 asking people to take part, but sending it to individual users seemed
 to be bad netiquette.

 Joseph

 2009/1/15 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
  http://public.smi.ethz.ch/files/MaemoOpenmoko/PublicDescriptiveStatistics
 .html
 
  it's also on the planet:
  http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/maemo-openmoko-community-survey-results-publi
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  thought people would find it interesting
 
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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote:
 Carlo Minucci wrote:
 Xavier Cremaschi ha scritto:
 Carlo Minucci a écrit :
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

 i a simple interface for update the maps of tangogps
 it's optimized for low band usage
 Just a question : how can you check the remote file without dowloading 
 it before ? Do you use etag [1] to do that ?
 yes
 etag

 i check with this:

 curl -I http://tile.openstreetmap.org/$file | grep ETag | cut -d \ -f 2

 do you know a better way?
 
 Doen't python have a http lib? Calling external apps is not really the 
 fastest and safest way.
 

Untested code:

  import httplib
  conn = httplib.HTTPConnection(tile.openstreetmap.org)
  conn.request(HEAD, /file...)
  r1 = conn.getresponse()
  print r1.status, r1.reason
  etag = getheader(ETag)
  print etag

And if stuff was new, make GET instead of HEAD



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Re: results of a survey maemo vs openmoko

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
 They wanted to only let active members take part in the survey if I  
 remember
 correctly. By sending the mail to the mailinglist they can't prevent non-
 active users not to participate.

i don't think so. the questions would be mostly nonsense if only active  
members (whatever the definition) are to be asked -- and the survey  
itself would not be really useful for scientific purposes.
moreover, the number of mails sent and the number of subscribers to the  
lists seem to be really close (do not have the numbers for the list handy,  
but they were posted last week or so).

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Re: results of a survey maemo vs openmoko

2009-01-16 Thread Joseph Reeves
 They wanted to only let active members take part in the survey if I remember
 correctly. By sending the mail to the mailinglist they can't prevent non-
 active users not to participate.

If this was the case I'd rather they sent the questionnaire to the
entire mailing list and added the are you an active mailing list
user? question.

And look, I top quoted too ;)

Joseph



2009/1/16 Peter Nijs pe...@familienijs.be:
 They wanted to only let active members take part in the survey if I remember
 correctly. By sending the mail to the mailinglist they can't prevent non-
 active users not to participate.

 depeje

 On Thursday 15 January 2009 18:47:46 Joseph Reeves wrote:
 Did anyone else ignore the original survey as unsolicited spam? I'd
 have probably completed it if they'd sent a mail to the mailing list
 asking people to take part, but sending it to individual users seemed
 to be bad netiquette.

 Joseph

 2009/1/15 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
  http://public.smi.ethz.ch/files/MaemoOpenmoko/PublicDescriptiveStatistics
 .html
 
  it's also on the planet:
  http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/maemo-openmoko-community-survey-results-publi
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-16 Thread Dylan Reilly
I looked around for an mpd package for arm for quite some time in the
past but turned up dry. Do you know of one? Since I use my freerunner
on the go it is not a useful option to connect to a remote mpd
server.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Stefan Monnier
monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:
 1) Improved responsiveness, especially with regard to starting the
 next song in a play list.
 2) Lowered processing overhead during main update loop.
 3) Tweaked the GUI. Most notably, the buttons are larger.
 4) Read ID3 tag info at play list load time using python ID3 library.
 5) Optionally (default true) disable suspend through enlightenment
 while song is playing. Change the no_suspend option in the [mplayer]
 section of /etc/pythm.conf.
 6) Automatically pause playback when phone call received, resume on
 hang-up. Only if running on FSO-based framework (not qtopia
 phone-kit).
 7) Hook directly into alsa for setting/getting the volume.
 8) Tweaked nice levels for more consistent playback.

 I think issues 1 and 4 are fixed for free by using the MPD backend.
 I highly recommend it.  It probably affects 2 as well.


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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-16 Thread Dylan Reilly
The locale error is a red herring.

I will try to devote some time this weekend to fixing the problem with
ogg. I was short sighted when I added the ID3 tag reading and forgot
to make it work with ogg too. If you are impatient, you can look in
mplayerbackend.py and comment out the part that uses ID3 to read file
details. It's in the function that loads files into a play list.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:26 PM, The Digital Pioneer
digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, I installed python-pyalsaaudio and it seems the mplayer backend no
 longer crashes, but it complains that there's no locale or translation file.
 Also, my collection is OGG, which doesn't play. When I attempt to load a
 file, I see a line in the output saying error executing:'ARTIST'. This
 makes it (still) impossible to play music. :(

 The line about the locales is:

 No Locale found, falling back! Error was:[Errno 2] No translation file found
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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-16 Thread Tha_Man


Neil Jerram wrote:
 
 2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr:
 Hackable1 is echo free no ?

 (personnaly i have no echo)
 
 I also have no echo with H1.
 
Neil
 
What version of H1 are you using? The sound of my mic is bad with H1 rev2
and I can't seem to dial numbers starting with '+', but I'm not sure if the
echo is gone.

In 2008.12 the echo isn't gone for me too, but more annoying is the fact SMS
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Thank you Dylan for improving pythm -- few days ago I've set up original
version and was pleased to be able to listen to my mp3s from FR.
Now I will give a try to your mods as soon as I get some spare time

I guess it would be great if you expose your development a bit -- did
you start off from SVN checkout of original pythm? may be it is worth
creating a branch in pythm's SVN repository, or at least
publish your development elsewhere? Or may be Matthias would not mind
most of your changes, so they could get in the main line of pythm's
development?

few days ago (right after I've tried pythm) I've asked on pythm's forum
about future developments [1]. Matthias Hans (original author) seems to
be busy with other things, but Paul has expressed his desire to
collaborate and mentioned that he did already some changes of his own.

It would be great to unite the effort, but for that single point of
entry for the source is preferred I guess.

Keep on useful development!

[1] http://projects.openmoko.org/forum/forum.php?thread_id=850forum_id=669

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 The locale error is a red herring.

 I will try to devote some time this weekend to fixing the problem with
 ogg. I was short sighted when I added the ID3 tag reading and forgot
 to make it work with ogg too. If you are impatient, you can look in
 mplayerbackend.py and comment out the part that uses ID3 to read file
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Re: London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Henkins
Does anybody know of a pub with usable free WiFi access? That could be a
handy item.


On Fri, January 16, 2009 15:02, Jan Henkins wrote:


 On Fri, January 16, 2009 14:49, gnublade wrote:
 As an alternative venue Simon Brunning of London Python fame offers up
 the Old Bank of England on Fleet Street.  (he's got plenty of
 experience organising these sorts of things).

 http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/

 I'm happy with Jan's suggestion though, albeit being the far opposite
 side of London from me.

 I'm very happy with this suggestion, haven't been in that neck of the
 woods yet, so view it as an opportunity to see something new. Looks
 stunning! Put it in the WIKI as evidence please!

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Re: London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread john
Hi Jan, I added a couple of pubs to the wiki.

I really don't mind which location. If it became a regular meet it
would be fun to try them all out! By coincidence I appear to have
recommended two Samuel Smith's pubs which might not suit everyone. I
will drink anything me :)

John.

2009/1/16 Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net:
[snip]
 Hello John,

 On Fri, January 16, 2009 14:23, john wrote:
 Please suggest a location. I find the BITE site an Indispensable (c)(tm)
 tool in cases like this:

 http://www.beerintheevening.com/

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Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

2009-01-16 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
 Hi all,
 I installed e17 from fso repos (i removed the manually installed package
 I was using)... but right now I'm not able to run englightenment_start
 at startup as i did before in my .xsessionrc file because of this error:
 error while loading shared libraries: libevas.so.0: cannot open shared
 object file: No such file or directory

 any hint is deeply welcome

Mixing distrow is *always* a bad idea. That will lead to all sort of 
breakges.

In this case, Debian pkg-e team decided to change sonames of e libraries 
because of unstable ABI.

Pkg-fso repository currently has packages with changes sonames.

I hope a working e17 will follow soon. Help is welcome on that :)

P.S.
You may try to symlink libevase-0.0.50a.so to libevas.so.0, and similar to 
other libs, then you will no longer see that error. Instead your linker 
will blindly use binary-incompatible libs, and application will crash 
sooner or later. You have been warned.


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Re: [ogsmd] Out-of-spec GSM number - who should I report to?

2009-01-16 Thread gt
Hi,

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:54:36PM +0100, Michael Lauer wrote:
 See #215, which I have just fixed in master.
 

#215 in trac.freesmartphone.org is a suspend issue - I don't
understand the relation to the ogmsd warning?

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Re: London pub meet

2009-01-16 Thread Gothnet



John-2 wrote:
 
 Hi Jan, I added a couple of pubs to the wiki.
 
 I really don't mind which location. If it became a regular meet it
 would be fun to try them all out! By coincidence I appear to have
 recommended two Samuel Smith's pubs which might not suit everyone. I
 will drink anything me :)
 
 John.
 
 2009/1/16 Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net:
 [snip]
 Hello John,

 On Fri, January 16, 2009 14:23, john wrote:
 Please suggest a location. I find the BITE site an Indispensable
 (c)(tm)
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 http://www.beerintheevening.com/

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on the belly. I'll take a look at the wiki and maybe add one or two.
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Re: Re: Car Charger?

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Henkins
I bought a generic iPod charger at a car accessory shop for about £2,
works like a charm. This specific one doesn't have a USB cable, but it
takes a normal FR cable. They probably overcharged me even at that
price-point...

On Fri, January 16, 2009 10:27, arne anka wrote:
 This looks very good. Can anyone recommend anything similar available in
 Germany?

 almost every cheap mobile shop or 99ct shop should have those available.



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Re: About the BRLCAD files I have created some time ago ...

2009-01-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Claus Christmann h...@gatech.edu writes:
 I am the guy hosting the CAD files at the fore-mentioned address.
 All I did in the beginning was to take the ProE files and transform them into 
 IGES and STEP files.

Any chance to get a PDF rendering of these? I fetched BRLCAD source
code and created a debian package but could not quite figure out how
to actually use it to view the CAD files :-)

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Re: Freerunner corrupts dhcp forwarding of Linksys WRE54G wireless range extender

2009-01-16 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl writes:
 Resetting the WRE54G by unplugging it fixes this problem.
 I am surprised by this behavior because in theory, the WRE54G should
 only forward network packets...

Can you capture the network traffic to file and put it online
somewhere? It would be useful to see both the working and non-working
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RE: [n00b] Sound not working?

2009-01-16 Thread Darby, Robin
Thank you Dylan, finally confirmed sound last night, woot!
Ended up flashing QT since it has a UI I can live with.
Images of om7.2 seem to have disappeared; I really liked that UI (clean, 
simple), does someone have a mirror?

Ty
  Robin...

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Subject: Re: [fdom] Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

I think FDOM has mplayer in it. You can try running mplayer [path to
media file] from a terminal.

The command alsamixer (terminal again) will bring up all the audio
controls you can modify. If you are running this from the device
itself it can be hard to see. Regardless, Look to see if the
Headphone and PCM (first and either controls, respectively) are
very high. The volume does not scale logically on the openmoko and
anything less than 80% on each may be hard to hear.

Maybe your device thinks you have headphones plugged into it. If so,
so sound will come out of the built-in stereo speakers. Try the
command:
amixer -d sset Amp Spk unmute
to make sound from from them.

As far as I remember, the dialer programs do not make noise when you
press the buttons.

FDOM may have navit (a car navigational program) installed by default.
If so, it tends to steal your audio device and not give it back. Try
killall speech-dispatcher and then /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm
restart (the latter will restart the GUI). If that works, I can tell
you how to disable speech dispatcher by default.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Darby, Robin robin...@amazon.co.uk wrote:
 Okay, forgive me if this is just really dumb; but usually when you use a 
 phone, pressing a number on the dialer (hardware numbers on the front or 
 software app. (i.e. iphone dialer)) will emit a dial tone corresponding 
 (according to some magical logic) to the number?
 I get no sound out of the thing whatsoever, not when I dial, not when it's 
 ringing (?) - nothing.
 I'm trying to ascertain if I've been sent a dud (i.e. the sound chip doesn't 
 work) or if it's just a software thing.
 Can someone tell me if there is a simple way to make the thing emit a noise 
 (any noise); or is there some daemon in the os which I need to start or 
 something?

 Thanks
Robin...

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 I was assuming that using the dialer would emit noise.

 care to elaborate? what kind of noise?
 what happens if you call your voicebox?

 Not using headphones, assuming the internal speakers should do something.
 Don't think it's OS related since I couldn't get anything out of it
 using the factory installed OM7.2 (?) either.

 are you sure, you're doing it right?

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Re: [ogsmd] Out-of-spec GSM number - who should I report to?

2009-01-16 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Friday 16 January 2009 16:58:10 schrieb g...@ergoarte.ch:
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:54:36PM +0100, Michael Lauer wrote:
  See #215, which I have just fixed in master.

 #215 in trac.freesmartphone.org is a suspend issue - I don't
 understand the relation to the ogmsd warning?

I was referring to your
I'm not sure these are related. I get a forever ringing phone just by
dailing it and cancelling the call just before or after the neo starts
ringing/vibrating. Seems it doesn't receive/process the cancelation.

with a wrong bug number ;) I wanted to point to #205 instead.

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Re: [2008.12] Qwerty keyboard and wrench

2009-01-16 Thread
naguz schrieb:
 Hi,

 Tried your patch now. It gives me the qwerty-button back, but it only
 toggles the qte-keyboard. Not the illume one. The wrench is till not there,
 so i have no way of changing it either.
 It should have been possible to define which keyboard to use via ssh. Life
 would bo so much easier then..
 Not related to ypur patch:
 I cannot get rastermans keyboard to work in hte illume-theme either. Only
 the default illume one. Yet I have tried every guide in every wiki (well,
 almost, anyway) to get rastermans keyboard working. I do not understand
 this.

 Running OM2008.12, installed all availible updates


 buergi wrote:
   
 After using the neo for a while, again the qwerty keyboard disappears and
 I
 have to reboot to have it back.
   
 i've the same problem, but only sometimes, not very often.

 i've made a dirty patch package[1,2,3] for illume-theme-asu
 (0.0+svnr4783-r7.04) a few days ago, it works great.
 most of the time there is even no need to set
 QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 anymore, but as you said i discovered that
 sometimes qtopia takes over and suddenly illume's keyboard is gone and
 the qtopia eyboard reapperars. after a
 rm -fr ~/.e ; /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
 the illume keyboard is back again.
 the reason is that illume sets kbd.use_internal=0 in illume.module.cfg,
 no idea why.

 this patch also brings back the wrench, but the problem is that the
 content of the subdialogs are shifted right, out of the visible area,
 see the screenshot[4].
 i've no idea why that happens, or how to fix it, does anyone have an idea?

 buergi

 [1]
 http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/pkgs/activate-illume-keyboard_0.1_armv4t.opk
 [2]
 http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/pkgs/activate-illume-keyboard.tar.gz
 [3] http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/howtos/howto_illume_kbd.txt
 [4] http://pbuergi.pb.funpic.de/openmoko/illume-cfg-dialog.jpg

 

Sorry to warm it up again, but i was even looking into the fdom tarball 
and trying out the themes, but i didn't find anything useful.
the qwerty button is no problem, but the wrench is (as already said, the 
config dialogs are missing/outside of the screen).
did anyone suceed in building a theme that features a working wrench?
i don't know why i am suddenly so keen on this.

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Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

2009-01-16 Thread arne anka
 Images of om7.2 seem to have disappeared; I really liked that UI (clean,  
 simple), does someone have a mirror?

2007.2 is discontinued. that means no updates, bugfixes whatsoever.
one of the distributions attempts to revive at least the 2007.2 ui, not  
sure which -- shr?

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Re: [n00b] Sound not working?

2009-01-16 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Friday 16 January 2009 17:43:41 schrieb arne anka:
  Images of om7.2 seem to have disappeared; I really liked that UI (clean,
  simple), does someone have a mirror?

 2007.2 is discontinued. that means no updates, bugfixes whatsoever.
 one of the distributions attempts to revive at least the 2007.2 ui, not
 sure which -- shr?

SHR has moved further. Hackable1 attempts to revive 2007.2.

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Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

2009-01-16 Thread
Nikita V. Youshchenko schrieb:
 Hi all,
 I installed e17 from fso repos (i removed the manually installed package
 I was using)... but right now I'm not able to run englightenment_start
 at startup as i did before in my .xsessionrc file because of this error:
 error while loading shared libraries: libevas.so.0: cannot open shared
 object file: No such file or directory

 any hint is deeply welcome
 

 Mixing distrow is *always* a bad idea. That will lead to all sort of 
 breakges.

 In this case, Debian pkg-e team decided to change sonames of e libraries 
 because of unstable ABI.

 Pkg-fso repository currently has packages with changes sonames.

 I hope a working e17 will follow soon. Help is welcome on that :)

 P.S.
 You may try to symlink libevase-0.0.50a.so to libevas.so.0, and similar to 
 other libs, then you will no longer see that error. Instead your linker 
 will blindly use binary-incompatible libs, and application will crash 
 sooner or later. You have been warned.
   
There is a deb package available at the ml somwhere just google for 
enlightenment all in one or state of enlightenment packaging and 
site:lists.openmoko.org

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Carlo Minucci
The Digital Pioneer ha scritto:
 I use OSM repo, yes. I removed that line, but now it just breaks on 
 another one (line 82). So still no go.

ok
open a shell into the phone e launch this

cat ~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml | grep OSM|http

and check if you receiver a row like this

r...@saponettofono:~# cat ~/.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml | grep 
OSM|http
 
stringvalueOSM|http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%d/%d/%d.png|/home/root/Maps/OSM|0/stringvalue
r...@saponettofono:~#

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread The Digital Pioneer
No go. I tried grepping for just OSM though, here's what I got...

r...@om-gta02 [~] # cat .gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml | grep OSM
  stringvalueOSM/stringvalue

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-16 Thread The Digital Pioneer

 If you are impatient, you can look in mplayerbackend.py and comment out the
 part that uses ID3 to read file details. It's in the function that loads
 files into a play list.

Just tried that, and now it all works fine except I can't seem to stop the
music once it's playing.

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Re: Fwd: Re: SanDisk MicroSD Class6 8GB 4,90 Eur incl. shipping

2009-01-16 Thread Chaosspawn23
Daniel Spies schrieb:
 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:53:44 +0100, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de
 wrote:
 The card is indeed plugged in a memory stick adapter, but you can remove
 nope, it is an usb adaptor.


 from there and get a normal microSD card.
 nope! it is an MEMORY STICK!
 that's a sony specific medium, but no SD CARD.

 
 I need to apologize, I mixed it up with
 http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(2630)-SDSDQY-8192-A11M-SanDisk_Mobile_Ultra_microSDHC_8GBCard.aspx
 This is the microSD card I was talking about, so I'm lucky they canceled my
 order :P
 
 Thanks for correcting me!

Oh, never mind - the sandisk site has a nice offer, too - 16 gig microsd for
only $ 0! ;)

Regards,
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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Carlo Minucci
The Digital Pioneer ha scritto:
 No go. I tried grepping for just OSM though, here's what I got...
 
 r...@om-gta02 [~] # cat .gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml | grep OSM
   stringvalueOSM/stringvalue

ok
this is the problem :)

can you send me this %gconf.xml via email?
i want to check the difference with mine

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Emacs for Om2008

2009-01-16 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Hello 

Does anybody know about a working Emacs package for Om2008.x? It is
mentioned several times in the www but I couldn't find a package.

Thanks

Sven

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Re: [Om2008.12] Dbus ? Frameworkd ? Headset ?

2009-01-16 Thread Dylan Reilly
You can also try grabbing the frameworkd packages from the FSO
repository and installing them. That is what I have working.

If that is not to your liking, try using or perusing [1]. It works on
my Frankenstein of an openmoko.

[1] http://atariland.net/~dreilly/openmoko/audio/headset-watcher

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
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 No version of Openmoko 2008.x uses frameworkd. Please install FSO or SHR for
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Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

2009-01-16 Thread Davide Scaini
ok, maybe I have some problems in express my route...
- my sources are those from debian first install.. so i'm not mixing
anything wierd
- i was coming from the enlightenment-all-in-one.deb from that thread and i
was searching for something more updated...

solution: i purged all the libraries coming from the deb package and from
the `apt-get install e17`... then i reinstalled e17 and updated all the
packages... now it works but i have no keyboard (just a piece ;-) )
if is there someone listening that uses e17 from fso-alioth repos with
success let me know...
thanks in advance
d

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster 
bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nikita V. Youshchenko schrieb:
  Hi all,
  I installed e17 from fso repos (i removed the manually installed package
  I was using)... but right now I'm not able to run englightenment_start
  at startup as i did before in my .xsessionrc file because of this error:
  error while loading shared libraries: libevas.so.0: cannot open shared
  object file: No such file or directory
 
  any hint is deeply welcome
 
 
  Mixing distrow is *always* a bad idea. That will lead to all sort of
  breakges.
 
  In this case, Debian pkg-e team decided to change sonames of e libraries
  because of unstable ABI.
 
  Pkg-fso repository currently has packages with changes sonames.
 
  I hope a working e17 will follow soon. Help is welcome on that :)
 
  P.S.
  You may try to symlink libevase-0.0.50a.so to libevas.so.0, and similar
 to
  other libs, then you will no longer see that error. Instead your linker
  will blindly use binary-incompatible libs, and application will crash
  sooner or later. You have been warned.
 
 There is a deb package available at the ml somwhere just google for
 enlightenment all in one or state of enlightenment packaging and
 site:lists.openmoko.org

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Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

2009-01-16 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
 solution: i purged all the libraries coming from the deb package and
 from the `apt-get install e17`... then i reinstalled e17 and updated all
 the packages... now it works but i have no keyboard (just a piece ;-) )
 if is there someone listening that uses e17 from fso-alioth repos with
 success let me know...

Please read this thread:

http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2009-January/000877.html


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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Thomas Franck
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Hi..

Very nice program.. works like a charm (so far (checking on ~70k
tiles)).. it's somewhat slow, though.. maybe you can implement that
python httplib to save the curl invocations? :) please?

Thank you for that tool. (The OSM updater just didn't cut it for me)

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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)

2009-01-16 Thread Carlo Minucci
Thomas Franck ha scritto:

 
 Very nice program.. works like a charm (so far (checking on ~70k
 tiles)).. it's somewhat slow, though.. maybe you can implement that
 python httplib to save the curl invocations? :) please?

maybe in the next release :)

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Re: [debian] e17 from fso repos

2009-01-16 Thread Davide Scaini
;-)
now i remember something...
maybe unconsciusly i hoped in some improvement...
ok at least it's clear that we're interested in e17 on debian... it seems
the only great alternative to me to make my phone working.
thanks for your reply, hoping for news soon
d


On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.orgwrote:

  solution: i purged all the libraries coming from the deb package and
  from the `apt-get install e17`... then i reinstalled e17 and updated all
  the packages... now it works but i have no keyboard (just a piece ;-) )
  if is there someone listening that uses e17 from fso-alioth repos with
  success let me know...

 Please read this thread:


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Handwriting (was Re: Dual touch display)

2009-01-16 Thread flamma

 Now that you bring it up, I'm wondering why we don't have such an input
 method
 yet. It would not need more space than the illume kb we have but would be
 (at
 least for human languages I think) much more intuitive than a finger kb
 with
 usable, but fairly small buttons.
 Is handwriting recognition (fairly simple shapes, one could stick to block
 letters) hard to do?


Qt Extended has it, works pretty well, and it is open source. Also, I
think I have seem some handwriting input methods in opkg.org and in the
wiki, but I haven't tried them.


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[Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes

2009-01-16 Thread Nick Van Fossen

Just as a helpful note, adding swap space seems to help against application 
crashes.  I've always had issues with 
tangoGPS and the various webbrower apps crashing.  Looking into it a little 
more I notice that this was occurring when the 
puny 128MB of memory was getting filled up.  So, I added a swap file onto my 
microSD card and have had these problems 
practically clear up.  Anyone else had any similar experiences?  If this is a 
true fix this should probably go onto the wiki.  

So, I'm a bit lazy so instead of going through the trouble of adding a swap 
partition, I just created a swap file.  My microSD 
card is mounted at /media/nickcard so change the below accordingly.  I set mine 
up for 1GB, but that seems like way 
overkill, so here is a quick command list to create a 1/2GB swap.  

Create the swap file on the mounted microSD card (count is the number of 
megabytes, change accordingly):
dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/nickcard/swapfile.img bs=1024k count=512

Format the swap file:
mkswap /media/nickcard/swapfile.img

Add the swap file to your running system:
swapon /media/nickcard/swapfile.img

use free -m to verify that the swap is going

Now like I said I am lazy, so I didn't want to bother remembering how fstab 
worked so that it would auto-start that way, 
so I just added that last command to the startup.  I read that you would just 
add 
/media/nickcard/swapfile.img none swap sw 0 0 to /etc/fstab but don't sue me 
if that part don't work.  :)

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Re: Handwriting (was Re: Dual touch display)

2009-01-16 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/16  fla...@correo.ugr.es:
 Now that you bring it up, I'm wondering why we don't have such an input
 method
 yet. It would not need more space than the illume kb we have but would be
 (at
 least for human languages I think) much more intuitive than a finger kb
 with
 usable, but fairly small buttons.
 Is handwriting recognition (fairly simple shapes, one could stick to block
 letters) hard to do?


 Qt Extended has it, works pretty well, and it is open source. Also, I
 think I have seem some handwriting input methods in opkg.org and in the
 wiki, but I haven't tried them.

i've seen a package called qtopia-x11-handwriting, or something
similar, in the 2008.12 repos; i guess this is it? is there any
documentation on how to get it working? i had it installed about 3
flashes ago, but never figured out how to use it, and didn't try it
again

thanks

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FrogPad Freerunner

2009-01-16 Thread Braydon Fuller
Has anybody had any experience with this keyboard?

http://www.frogpad.com/
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/6c82/zoom/

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