Re: [debian] preferred working kernel at the moment?
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: I added a script in /etc/apm/scripts which logs the current before and after resume. With kernel andy-tracking 1e257a0e99817a33 it shows 126mA That's indeed quite a lot. I am not sure if reading current_now immediately after resume is race-free so you might want to collect logs for a few days. And which other case do you mean with both cases? I meant the working and non-working kernels. Which X server are you running? I use xserver-xglamo because only with this xrandr is working. It also works with Xorg and the xf86-video-glamo driver (not yet packaged). Another problem is that the memory consumption on debian is much higher and the system responsiveness is much slower than before. But this could also be a problem of other system components which are updated on a regular basis. ps -eorss,cmd | sort -n? Well, this reveals that xfce is using a lot of memory: 6524 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/frameworkd 7384 /usr/bin/xfce4-session 13160 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/openmoko-panel-plugin 13980 xfwm4 --sm-client-id 117f010001233661160001407 --display :0.0 15076 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-menu-plugin socket_id 18874410 name xfce4-menu id 5 display_name Xfce-Menü size 36 screen_position 11 15212 xfce4-panel --sm-client-id 117f0100012336611620014070001 --display :0.0 15332 /usr/lib/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-mixer-plugin socket_id 18874423 name xfce4-mixer id 12223404700 display_name Lautstärkenregler size 36 screen_position 11 16768 xfdesktop --sm-client-id 117f0100012336611800014070003 --display :0.0 22068 /usr/lib/notification-daemon-xfce/notification-daemon-xfce But iwlist eth0 scan shows my wlan access-point and after ifup eth0 (with no dhcp answer) the command iwconfig eth0 shows that i should be connected to my AP. Interesting is that iwconfig shows link quality 0/94, signal level -95dBm and noise level 0dBm. But when i do a iwlist eth0 scan it shows link quality 24/94, signal level -69dBm and noise level -95dBm for my wlan. These differences in signal quality looks quite strange to me. That sounds like a kernel bug you should report to http://bugs.openmoko.org/ if it broke in some specific version it should be possible to find by binary search. Another mysterious thing is that the wlan connection seems to be oscillating. When i look at the wlan status page of my AP (dd-wrt linux) i can see that the wlan client (my fr) is connected for a few seconds and than disappears in the client list. After a few seconds it appears and then disappears again and this repeats after a few seconds all the time i have wlan activated on my fr. I don't think that the problem is my AP because i got another pc connected to it with a stable connection and dhcp working. I've heard about such issues with the wlan firmware indeed. You might want to read Werner's analysis on this at http://kerneltrap.org/index.php?q=mailarchive/openmoko-devel/2009/1/22/4788124/thread best regards, Timo Lindfors ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de writes: 1.) anyone knows a was to get the coordinates of area codes? Openstreetmap has postal codes but not telephone area codes. Can you map postal codes to telephone area codes? 2.) anyone wants to try to code something in this direction? Wouldn't it be much easier to just improve opencellid.org so that at least all lac's are covered? 3.) is anyone interested in a program that would give agps the needed data (so perhaps when I get the time I will start coding :) ) There are already several programs to feed agps data. What new do you need? I use http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/matt_hsu/agps-online/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
error during the preparation of MokoMake file
Hello! I follow the insturctions written in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile in order to build my first program on my openmoko, I arrived until Grab MokoMakefile: I did this command wget http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/Makefile, after that I wrote: make setup, to set up the environment, but I obtained this messaj : [ -e common/.git/config ] || \ ( git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org/fso-makefile.git common \ rm -f Makefile \ ln -s common/Makefile Makefile ) /bin/sh: line 1: git: command not found make: *** [setup-common] Erreur 127 what must I do to cuntinue the mokoMakefile Anas EL ZOUEBI ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de writes: 1.) anyone knows a was to get the coordinates of area codes? Openstreetmap has postal codes but not telephone area codes. Can you map postal codes to telephone area codes? 2.) anyone wants to try to code something in this direction? Wouldn't it be much easier to just improve opencellid.org so that at least all lac's are covered? 3.) is anyone interested in a program that would give agps the needed data (so perhaps when I get the time I will start coding :) ) There are already several programs to feed agps data. What new do you need? I use http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/matt_hsu/agps-online/ all these program need a gps position. I want a program that gets your rough location and feeds it to the agps program so that I do have to care about where I am and get the optimal results. Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: error during the preparation of MokoMake file
Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com writes: /bin/sh: line 1: git: command not found make: *** [setup-common] Erreur 127 what must I do to cuntinue the mokoMakefile You better install git? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
Paul wrote: I though it was fixed, maybe not. When I connect the headset, I hear the audio from both the external speaker of the FR and the Left headset at the same time. (there is no sound from the right headset) I though the headset was autodetect... How can I fix it? Almost sounds as if you do not push the headset connector in far enough. I think there is something wrong with the FR headset socket. I have tried several headsets as well as several converter plugs for those headsets that have the bigger plugs. If I push the plug all the way in, I get sound in one channel only. Pull it a litle out, and I get nice stereo. Pull it some more out, and I get a very weak stereo. (Possibly missing the ground connection, so the two channels connect in series?) Pull further out, and weird things happens, sound in left only or right only, or perhaps the main speaker wakes up. Of course all those not quite in positions are unstable, the plug easily slides from one position to another. I notice that the socket is slightly recessed. Perhaps it was meant to sit a little bit further in, so that the plug could rest against the casing? And then someone in design moved it slightly on the circuit board, or moved the board itself? I experiment with putting o-rings on the pkug so it don't go too deep in. But then it has a tendency to slide out instead. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de writes: 1.) anyone knows a was to get the coordinates of area codes? Openstreetmap has postal codes but not telephone area codes. Can you map postal codes to telephone area codes? 2.) anyone wants to try to code something in this direction? Wouldn't it be much easier to just improve opencellid.org so that at least all lac's are covered? Have someone tried writing to telcos, asking them to contribute the positions for their cells? This is very little work for them, and could be marketed as a cool move. Not only for openmoko owners, anyone can use opencellID information. The info cannot be considered very secret, seeing that O2 already broadcast such stuff. Or for Germans, ask them if they can provide the same kind of location service so you won't have to switch to O2. ;-) Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
2009/3/30 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl Martino wrote: If the problem is to have the prefered or the most used apps easy accessible the solution could be put this apps before the categoty division.. Yes, that's what I was suggesting before: but using only one row for that. In general, I would use only one row to display the app icons, before or within categories, and allow the icon row to scroll horizontally (needs left/right arrow hints). Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes it was beautifull but i think isn't easy to develop.. . -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
2009/3/30 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl Martino wrote: If the problem is to have the prefered or the most used apps easy accessible the solution could be put this apps before the categoty division.. Yes, that's what I was suggesting before: but using only one row for that. In general, I would use only one row to display the app icons, before or within categories, and allow the icon row to scroll horizontally (needs left/right arrow hints). Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes it was beautifull but i think isn't easy to develop.. . -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes: Paul wrote: Almost sounds as if you do not push the headset connector in far enough. I think there is something wrong with the FR headset socket. I have tried several headsets as well as several converter plugs for those headsets that have the bigger plugs. If I push the plug all the way in, I get sound in one channel only. Pull it a litle out, and I get nice stereo. Pull it some more out, and I get a very weak stereo. (Possibly missing the ground connection, so the two channels connect in series?) Pull further out, and weird things happens, sound in left only or right only, or perhaps the main speaker wakes up. Looks like you're trying to use incompatible 3-ring adapter/headphones. Obviously that won't work. The right pinout of FR's receptable is: tip: MIC RIGHT LEFT GND If you fully push a regular 3-ring jack in the socket, you'll have MIC input connected to your left headphone, RIGHT output to the right headphone and you'll short LEFT to GND by the base of your jack. Obviously if you pull it a little, you'll have your left headphone connected to the RIGHT output, your right headphone to the LEFT, and a proper ground connection. Use only properly wired 4-ring jack! -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
On Monday 30 March 2009, xChris wrote: Hi, I though it was fixed, maybe not. When I connect the headset, I hear the audio from both the external speaker of the FR and the Left headset at the same time. (there is no sound from the right headset) That is what would be expected if the output is set to the speaker rather than the headset. I assume you have a correctly wired headset. I though the headset was autodetect... How can I fix it? Check rules.yaml to see that there is a rule in place to handle headset insertion. Enable logging for frameworkd to see what's going on. It is possible that the insertion event is being reacted to, but some other app or rule is changing back to the stereoout state. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
Solved! I think something was wrong about the headphones (I have 2 x motorola (compatible type)) so, I used the second set and no problem... as I see, the plug of the first one is bad -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-shr--Headset-detect--tp2559116p2562313.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 125, Issue 10
Hello! Thank you Mr. Timo Juhani Lindfors, after installing git the setup of the environment succesed, but after i run this command: make fso-gta02-testing-image I obtained this error: make[1]: *** [image] Erreur 1 make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /root/moko/fso-testing » make: *** [fso-gta02-testing-image] Erreur 2 what should I do?? I followed the insturctions written in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile in order to build my first program on my openmoko, I arrived until this command : make fso-gta02-testing-image, but it failed showing make[1]: *** [image] Erreur 1 make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /root/moko/fso-testing » make: *** [fso-gta02-testing-image] Erreur 2 Anas EL ZOUEBI ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Everybody is still welcome to work on cool projects, though. :-) Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de writes: all these program need a gps position. I want a program that gets your No they don't. agps-onlinec takes latitude and longitude. It does not need to come from GPS. I feed it the coordinates of the nearby gsm cell. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] GPRS Telfort Netherlands
Does anyone have improvements on the data here: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/394 Especially the authentication type and QoS need verification. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de writes: all these program need a gps position. I want a program that gets your No they don't. agps-onlinec takes latitude and longitude. It does not need to come from GPS. I feed it the coordinates of the nearby gsm cell. but where do you get the gsm coordinates from? thats the whole point! we need something where we can get the rough location and i do not know anything. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Customizing the Openmoko Distribution
Hi! I read this document http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Application_Development_Crash_Course in order to build my first program on my openmoko but I didn't understand where is OMDIR, is it in home or in root and when i run this command: cp build/conf/site.conf local/conf/site.conf it can't find build/conf/site.conf what must i do in order to build my first program on openmoko Anas El zouhbi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Projects.openmoko.org downtime
Dear all, Do some unexpected issue on Upgrading GFORGE, projects.openmoko.org was down for few hours on March 31, please accept my apologizes, Old version of Gforge restored until i (with help of gforge irc people) can figure out what was the issue. -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de writes: but where do you get the gsm coordinates from? thats the whole point! we need something where we can get the rough location and i do not know anything. From opencellid database. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
All right. I had a friend who was looking for a project to work on for GSoC, and I figured maybe I could get him to do some work for the FR. Oh well, better luck next time. :) Thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
2009/3/31 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Out of interest, did the rejection have anything to do with Android being a Google product and a competitor to SHR/FSO? Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
started with openembedded
hello! I followed the instruction written in http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started, I arrived to this command git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded but it shows this error: fatal: could not create work tree dir 'openembedded'. what must I do ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: 2009/3/31 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:55 +0100 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i think there is none shr (or fso?) got rejected Both actually. We joined forces with our application and were rejected. Out of interest, did the rejection have anything to do with Android being a Google product and a competitor to SHR/FSO? Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I was thinking the same -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de writes: but where do you get the gsm coordinates from? thats the whole point! we need something where we can get the rough location and i do not know anything. From opencellid database. But that means that there has been anyone before and has mapped this cell. i think it is possible to get the rough location data for everwhere, independend from a community built database, like if you get the data from the lac or something else. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)
This has happened to me before when Illume didn't like the combination of categories I used. Copy/paste the categories from a working desktop file and see if that helps. -Steven On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: yes, yesterday i tried making new files in the dir you specified, but with no luck (no new icon appeared)... i'll try again, thanks for your reply! d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: started with openembedded
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:45 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: hello! I followed the instruction written in http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started, I arrived to this command git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded but it shows this error: fatal: could not create work tree dir 'openembedded'. what must I do Hi Anas From looking at some of your other mails you've been running some commands as root. It's not necessary and dangerous. It's probably a permission problem on the directory, so either start from scratch somewhere else as a normal user or do a chown on the directories you're working in. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] GPRS Telfort Netherlands
Hi Pander, Pander wrote (ao): Does anyone have improvements on the data here: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/394 Especially the authentication type and QoS need verification. I have no clue to what you mean or what you need, but I use Telfort GPRS. I connect with: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext internet x x and it Just Works(tm) (on FSO). Is this of any help, or can I provide you with any info? With kind regards, Sander -- Humilis IT Services and Solutions http://www.humilis.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Customizing the Openmoko Distribution
Looks like this is what you are looking for: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain Leonti On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I read this document http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Application_Development_Crash_Course in order to build my first program on my openmoko but I didn't understand where is OMDIR, is it in home or in root and when i run this command: cp build/conf/site.conf local/conf/site.conf it can't find build/conf/site.conf what must i do in order to build my first program on openmoko Anas El zouhbi ___ devel mailing list de...@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko for blind users?
Seems to me OM would be a good platform to quickly implement something like this on a working phone. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127015.700-vibrating-touch-scree n-puts-braille-at-the-fingertips.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko for blind users?
2009/3/31 Crane, Matthew mcran...@harris.com Seems to me OM would be a good platform to quickly implement something like this on a working phone. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127015.700-vibrating-touch-scree n-puts-braille-at-the-fingertips.htmlhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127015.700-vibrating-touch-scree%0An-puts-braille-at-the-fingertips.html That's a really nice start to making touchscreen devices friendlier for blind users. It'd be great for this to be ported to OpenMoko! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] GPRS Telfort Netherlands
Sander wrote: Hi Pander, Pander wrote (ao): Does anyone have improvements on the data here: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/394 Especially the authentication type and QoS need verification. I have no clue to what you mean or what you need, but I use Telfort GPRS. I connect with: perhaps that part is not needed mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext internet x x On SHR the reply is: /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: ActivateContext failed: org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.NoChannel when I change shr_gprs.py to set the login and password to empty string, also via the settings-connection-gprs settings menu, it is nog possible to connect. and it Just Works(tm) (on FSO). Is this of any help, or can I provide you with any info? With kind regards, Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Learning with flashcards - granule
Hi all, What flashcard applications exist for FSO/SHR? If non exist, which candidates are out there that could be ported? I have found references to granule ports but not a place for an FSO/SHR opk to download. Regards, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Yaouh! new version out
only more speed for this release http://www.opkg.org/package_105.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume
Johny Tenfinger wrote: Yep, 2008.12 is unsupported and has too old Enlightenment version to handle recent themes and modules. Try to install a more recent version following this [1]. You can keep it without damaging your Om2008 installation and allowing both new and old applications to run. If you want/need, I've other many recent builds here (with elementary too). [1] http://n2.nabble.com/On-the-Enlightenment-Bleeding-Edge-td2131838.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FatFingerShell vt with fullscreen keyboard
Hi, nice idea. Is it coupled only with a shell or could I use it for other applications? And do activation of it with the accelerometers. Also the idea with the overlay would be great. Still see what the application behint shows while entering commands. So for any applications, if the focus is on a control that requires the keyboard, shaking the neo would activate the overlay keyboard at the actual control... Then each application could benefit from it. Thanks and I'll try it if I have time. Lothar Am 27.03.2009 um 08:03 schrieb Rafael Ignacio Zurita: Hello people, it is a new virtual terminal for Openmoko, with a complete fullscreen keyboard and sound. You can set the colors and the transparency, set new keyboard layouts (hard yet) and replace the sounds. This terminal should be useful for bash/vi and other common console tools. The fullscreen keyboard should be comfortable for fat fingers. Check the videos to know the idea : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qR4FETGzkA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f67HKAkx61w How to test: - download the package: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/fatfingershell/fatfingershell_0.1.tar.gz - install libsdl, libsdl_mixer, libsdl_ttf packages - add export TERM=vt100 into ~/.bashrc - you need installed bash tar xvzf fatfingershell_0.1.tar.gz cd fatfingershell/ ./fatfingershell.sh If you have problems check fatfingershell.sh script to realize out how to run this version manually. The package is an alpha version to check how well the ideas work. There are bugs, and lot of problems surely. The package and the source code have a README file with known problems, TODO list and other instructions. Other files: README: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/fatfingershell/README.txt source code: http://fz.hobby-site.org/om/fatfingershell/fatfingershell-src_0.1.tar.gz Feedback, suggestions and ideas are welcome. Saludos!, Rafa -- Rafael Ignacio Zurita Buenos Aires, Argentina ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix
Hello, a good friend does the buzz fix for me, but after doing that there is still a buzz, think it's a little bit quiter. here are a few pictures after the buzz http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/845779/neo1.JPG http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/845779/neo2.JPG http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/845779/neo3.JPG http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/845779/neo4.JPG can you say me whats wrong? thanks peter Am Mittwoch, den 04.03.2009, 09:09 +0100 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am Di 27. Januar 2009 schrieb Paul Fertser: Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: On Monday 26 January 2009, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: are there any updates from resellers, FIC or any half-official DIY-tutorials on the hardware problems, i.e. the buzzing? This appears to have benefited from feedback regarding capacitor types from the few people so far to have attempted the mod, The feedback is that: you can use any cap, including tantalum. :) but more feedback is requested. The lack of feedback from people trying it may be why it hasn't yet made it past release candidate stage. No more feedback is really needed. Everyone who performed the rework confirmed that it eliminates the buzz. No single negative report. And i guess at least 10-20 people have already tried the rework. So, the reason that no reseller is doing it yet is probably due to communication/business issues rather than technical. Exactly. I'm not in charge any more to push this fix, but to me it seems we really don't need to quantify how much it improves buzz-issue. The cause and ways to creep in of buzz are well understood by now by some guys at least (and NO it's NOT the mic catching RF near antenna, it's pin4 of hs-jack), the bigC-rework is evidently (based on empiric and EE basics) eliminating the ripple we see on MICBIAS, and a gsmhandset.state file correctly using differential input mode (control.63 value Mic 2) won't break audio function from unfixed to buzzfixed FR. Also we don't need any sophisticated test procedure, as * all devices are prone to buzz issue, so we don't need to prove there is buzz before fix * the big-C rework will either kill the buzz or you find you did sth wrong and mic stops to work. So any engineer doing the actual fix doesn't need any sophisticated fix succeeded test more complicated than that involved in replacing a lightbulb. Test call - works - fine. cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AGPS Thoughts
On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de writes: 1.) anyone knows a was to get the coordinates of area codes? Openstreetmap has postal codes but not telephone area codes. Can you map postal codes to telephone area codes? 2.) anyone wants to try to code something in this direction? Wouldn't it be much easier to just improve opencellid.org so that at least all lac's are covered? Have someone tried writing to telcos, asking them to contribute the positions for their cells? This is very little work for them, and could be marketed as a cool move. Not only for openmoko owners, anyone can use opencellID information. The info cannot be considered very secret, seeing that O2 already broadcast such stuff. Or for Germans, ask them if they can provide the same kind of location service so you won't have to switch to O2. ;-) In the UK they would prefer this data to be secret - see link below. http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix
Am Di 31. März 2009 schrieb Peter Stumm: Hello, a good friend does the buzz fix for me, but after doing that there is still a buzz, think it's a little bit quiter. here are a few pictures after the buzz http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/845779/neo1.JPG http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/845779/neo2.JPG http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/845779/neo3.JPG http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/845779/neo4.JPG can you say me whats wrong? thanks peter Hi Peter, I'm really sorry it didn't work for you on first shot. The main problem with your fix seems to be the extremely long wires catching more RF which is creating noise directly in mic, than the whole rework is reducing noise introduced by MICBIAS ripple. The recommendations to keep the wires *as short as possible* and run them *close to PCB (GND) surface* were chosen to avoid exactly this problem. Probably you should replace the 0603 (0804?) big R4303 by a fitting 0402 and place this one on the pads directly so no wire is needed to contact it. You might keep the capacitor but you need to replace this wire with a short one as well. If you got problems to find correct components don't hesitate to ask me to send some to you. Contact me either via private mail or on IRC freenode #openmoko DocScrutinizer HTH good luck /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: how do i turn the phone off?
clare johnstone wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:34 AM, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: clare johnstone wrote: ... I do however, especially with the GTA01, always remove the battery at this stage, and only replace it when I want to restart. Just hold in the aux button when you insert the battery. Sarton Oh! what makes you say that? and with such confidence too :) The follow up issue appears to be that it restarts when the battery is removed and replaced. Holding the aux button accesses the NOR u-boot allowing you to shutdown or boot, whichever you prefer. As for the gta01, this may not be the case ... Confident? well I've done it more than 100 times ;) ... I'm just one of the lucky ones that still has their case clips intact, otherwise 'remove cover' may not necessarily be a prerequisite :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
hi all, As I did for Qtopia, I’ve recompiled my un-predictive keyboard for qt-extended-improved. It is a patched version of the matchbox keyboard that comes with Qt made usable without a stylus.I’ve changed the layout from last time I touched it : * I found out how to suppress the hints bar, that never had any real use for me * I used wider picks to help people that do not play guitar and have regular size nails :-) * In the sourcecode you can find an attempt to use screen rotation (disabled now) to automatically switch to wide mode when sending sms. I didn’t have time to make it work. then you have to chose at each boot, the default one can not be changed. if you want screenshots explain me how to have them with qtextended :-) codebin here: http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/01/qt-extended-un-predictive-keyboard/ I put the whole keyboard source dir in the zip but i think I have only touched keyboardframe.cpp. I will send a patch for the git soon. ciao, leonardo. -- http://leonardo.lilik.it Key fingerprint = 2C20 A587 05AC 42E5 1292 D0D4 3EED CFB5 52FD AD1E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google Summer of Code
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:59:48 +0200 Rafael Campos meth...@gmail.com said: I was thinking the same who knows... enlightenment is back in again... if someone wants to work on illume/e/elementary/whatever or related stuff that is relevant to phones... the doors are open :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard
* I found out how to suppress the hints bar, that never had any real use for me Doesn't quiet work for me, the hints bar overlays the key stroke for the top row of keys. Try creating a new sms message and begin a word with one of these letters. Otherwise looks good! Regards, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko for blind users?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: 2009/3/31 Crane, Matthew mcran...@harris.com Seems to me OM would be a good platform to quickly implement something like this on a working phone. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127015.700-vibrating-touch-scree n-puts-braille-at-the-fingertips.html That's a really nice start to making touchscreen devices friendlier for blind users. It'd be great for this to be ported to OpenMoko! One of the more obvious problems, and it shows in the article, is that Braille is 2 dimensional, and the pulses are only one-dimensional. Perhaps having an interface with morse code could help here. Ofcourse, you can do both the '1-dimensional braille' and morse and let the user select. But 1 character in 1.25 seconds sounds like a long time! Morse is (can be) much quicker than that. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
