Re: gsmhandset.state what means what?

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:23 AM, jeremy jozwik  wrote:
> hello everyone.
> can someone link me to or tell me what each of the controls actually
> do in the gsmhandset.state file?

Check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem - AFAIK
it's the same for Neo & Freerunner (except FR only has one speaker)

> i know where to find "the" .state file, but it does not match what i
> would like it to do.

Check http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/gsmhandset.state - it
has two changes to the state.new file (which is "the" state file
AFAIK)

r


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[SHR-testing] Black Screen of Death?

[Bram Mertens]

Hi,

Yesterday I encountered again what I'd call a Black Screen Of Death.
For a - low quality - picture see
http://users.telenet.be/bmertens/FreeRunner/FreeRunnerBSOD.jpg ).

I've encountered this before but I'm never able to tell what exactly
happened.  Usually I leave the device for some time to find it like
this when I return.  Yesterday the device was on the seat next to me
in the car doing nothing special (no GPS, no audio or anything).  I
had only booted it several minutes before after switching the SIM card
to a card I use for testing and made one phone call.

I'm using SHR-testing from 20090422 on an SD card:
uImage-2.6.29-oe10+gitr81c61a7d1abb03aecd13f5395aba355e996a1641-r3.4-om-gta02.bin
openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20090422-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
with U-Boot 
(u-boot-gta02v5-1.3.1+gitrb20cc520a22715fe7ff069b36b7dfdbb925a8e5a-r1.bin)

When I get this black screen with a single white line the only way
I've found to recover is to pull the battery, the device won't respond
to screen touches or even holding the power button.  I have never
tried to ssh into the device.
It usually feels warm but I can't tell if it is a result of this or a
cause.  What is normal operating temperature for the FreeRunner?

Has anybody encountered this?  I haven't been able to find references
to anything similar, unless this too is a variation of the WSOD.

Don't know if it is relevant but over the past couple of days the at
daemon has regularly crashed causing ffalarms to fail.  Other daemons
have failed as well but less frequently.

Thanks in advance

Bram

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Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor

[Petr Vanek]

>Could it be possible to have a import button added?
>Upload or just make the textarea 'level' writable and add a button to
>reparse it ?
>
>I closed my browser before submitting a level. Still, it remains in my
>FR since I tested it.
>

you can paste your level code into the text field

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Re: Ain't it funny..

[roguemoko]

On 8/05/2009 6:58 PM, David Garabana Barro wrote:
> Some time ago, I have recommended several friends*NOT*  to buy a Freerunner,
> because software was not ready. It was a great toy for me, but my friends
> would get desperated. I think it's being open minded (and being a good
> friend;)
>
> If someone feels raped, he can press charges to OM. But complaining on a
> community mailing list won't solve his problems. Don't you think?

Way to chime in at the tail end. It's obvious with Dale's recent emails 
that he's frustrated that nobody was listening or taking him seriously.

I witnessed his contributions and willingness to provide feedback, where 
he was met with semantics and useless responses that then pushed him to 
publicise his opinion and his situation. All still very obvious if you 
have paid any attention.

You're love for your device and your 'opinion' in no way solves the 
problem that he had no outlet for recouping on a falsely advertised 
device. Our laws entitle us to have our money refunded in such a 
situation but this does not transcend international borders.

I'd like to know where it is exactly you'd voice your dissent in such a 
situation. I'm sure Dale can present you with an audit trail of emails, 
trac tickets and the like, long before any of this actually started 
publicly.

To top it off, I reckon Dale would have assimilated (now that's a nasty 
word over here) had Lorn admitted to the failings of QTE and been 
willing to agree that people have differing opinions on the software's 
'usefulness', none of this would have ever happened.

The one thing that should never occurred, and I imagine there are a few 
people that agree here, is that the FR should never have been advertised 
as a phone. Potential to become a phone maybe. This marketing oversight 
would have saved a lot of trouble and time.
I say oversight because the people who are supporting openmoko really 
don't care whether it's a phone out of the box or not.

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Re: It Ain't funny [Was: Ain't it funny..]

[Dale Maggee]

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Now you're just trying to confuse me... ;)

...I haven't received any reply to my off-list email yet... I presume
you're looking into it?


Steve Mosher wrote:
> Best of all is to avoid hyperbolic claims of totalitarian behavior all 
> together, since the claim, if true,
> will never see the light of pixels, and if false, is self refuting.
> 
> That's my rhetorical observation for the day.
> 
> 
> Dale Maggee wrote:
> Shawn Rutledge wrote:
>   
 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dale Maggee  
 wrote:
 
> Generally when I hear the word "nazi" used, it means "totalitarian", not
> "monster" or "mass murderer" - think of the "soup nazi" in Seinfeld.
> That's what I meant. Not the other. *At All*. Sorry.
>   
 That just goes to show the meaning has gotten diluted from overuse, 
 doesn't it.

 
> Absolutely, to the point that I wasn't even aware that there were other
> meanings you could read into it, and that's why I felt like such a dick
> once I had this pointed out to me.
> 
> Like I said, I learned something, and as a consequence I'll need to find
> myself a new metaphor for "totalitarian"...
>>
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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[Sudharshan S]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
 wrote:
> Yeah,
>
> that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least
> something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it looks
> like NIH syndrome.
>
> Until now, trying to co-work with these guys typically went like "yeah, you
> can take our APIs, if you want. No, we don't want to look at yours, thanks.".
>

'These *type* of guys' or 'these guys'? Just wondering, was FSO in
touch with them. Anyways, I am sure that the momentum of FSO wont die
down because of this. :)

Regards
Sudharshan S
Blog : http://www.sudharsh.wordpress.com
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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[max]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:09 AM, max  wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Lorn Potter  wrote:
>> max wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Lorn Potter  wrote:
 Levy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 20:08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
>  wrote:
>> Yeah,
>>
>> that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least
>> something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it 
>> looks
>> like NIH syndrome.
> Someone is trying to make they use Pyneo on #ofone channel right now.

 I seriously doubt Nokia would ever have python on a Symbian device, 
 especially on S40.

>>>
>>> Actually, Nokia is quite pro-Python. Check out these links for more info.
>>>
>>> http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/pythonfors60/
>>> http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/PyS60_extensions
>>
>> Let me rephrase that then. I doubt Nokia will ever ship python on a Symbian 
>> device.
>> Just because someone started an open source project within Nokia, doesn't 
>> mean it will ship in a
>> product.
>>
>

Actually, the S60 All-in-one SDKs seems to support Python development
(officially). So I don't feel Py60 should be seen just as another open
source project started by someone within Nokia.

(Source: 
http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/ec866fab-4b76-49f6-b5a5-af0631419e9c/S60_All_in_One_SDKs.html)

Coming back to the topic, personally, I feel the FSO interface should
have been adopted. D-Bus based APIs? OFono seems to be an alternate
standard to what FSO already established. While choice is good when it
comes to implementations, too much "choice" in interfaces/standards,
fragments the community, and much productivity is lost in duplicating
stuff.

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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[max]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Lorn Potter  wrote:
> max wrote:
>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Lorn Potter  wrote:
>>> Levy wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 20:08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
  wrote:
> Yeah,
>
> that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least
> something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it 
> looks
> like NIH syndrome.
 Someone is trying to make they use Pyneo on #ofone channel right now.
>>>
>>> I seriously doubt Nokia would ever have python on a Symbian device, 
>>> especially on S40.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, Nokia is quite pro-Python. Check out these links for more info.
>>
>> http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/pythonfors60/
>> http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/PyS60_extensions
>
> Let me rephrase that then. I doubt Nokia will ever ship python on a Symbian 
> device.
> Just because someone started an open source project within Nokia, doesn't 
> mean it will ship in a
> product.
>

I am not qualified to comment on that but here's hoping... :-)

 - Ajith Hussain,
Senior Software Engineer, Devices R&D, Nokia

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Re: It Ain't funny [Was: Ain't it funny..]

[Steve Mosher]

Best of all is to avoid hyperbolic claims of totalitarian behavior all 
together, since the claim, if true,
will never see the light of pixels, and if false, is self refuting.

That's my rhetorical observation for the day.


Dale Maggee wrote:
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>
> Shawn Rutledge wrote:
>   
>> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dale Maggee  wrote:
>> 
>>> Generally when I hear the word "nazi" used, it means "totalitarian", not
>>> "monster" or "mass murderer" - think of the "soup nazi" in Seinfeld.
>>> That's what I meant. Not the other. *At All*. Sorry.
>>>   
>> That just goes to show the meaning has gotten diluted from overuse, doesn't 
>> it.
>>
>> 
>
> Absolutely, to the point that I wasn't even aware that there were other
> meanings you could read into it, and that's why I felt like such a dick
> once I had this pointed out to me.
>
> Like I said, I learned something, and as a consequence I'll need to find
> myself a new metaphor for "totalitarian"...
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Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

[Steve Mosher]

Thanks Risto,
   I just finished my review on Sunday and made many of the same points. 
The good news is
that  (after the long boot) it was very usable as a phone. There were of 
course some annoyances
and somethings in the IU paradigm that took some getting use to

Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Thanks for this new release, really happy to see that only a short
> time (a week?) after the previous there's already a new release with
> bugs fixed. Release early, release often, as they say :)
>
> I wrote some points below to show what's good, what I concider as
> bug/problem and points to discuss/wishlist/something. I'm sure some of
> it has already been discussed, some of it is just me not knowing how
> to use it (which can mean that it's not easy to use or a
> manual/something is needed) and so on. I'm happy to receive comments!
>
> + This actually makes FR a simple, very working phone!! (I actually
> got a 10 min call from my mum. In the end I asked and she said there's
> a small echo left)
> + ability to turn off PIN check & change pin! (I think it's the first
> distro that can do it :)
> + WLAN-tool
> + manual suspend
> + decent resume speed
>
> - some mess sometimes in the top of the screen
> - The button to 'go back / go to previous screen' keeps changing: In
> the menu there's a 'back' button (different size in different views)
> but in the people etc one has to know to press the top bar to go back.
> - Empty I/O shows an 'edit' button.. maybe it should be hidden and
> instead a text 'no logged events' could be shown?
> - keylock missing
> ¤ Would it be possible to add a SMS button in the 'People' -> contact
> view. Now clicking the number calls the user (intuitive? Why clicking
> the name nothing happens?). Maybe adding 'dial' and 'SMS' -buttons
> there just to make it clear.
> - If one by accidentally presses 'Enter in the PIN input view, it just
> accepts it and doesn't ask for PIN again.
> - wlan scan doesn't have a progress bar telling it's actually doing something
> - resume doesn't turn on the screen lights -> one knows it's resumed
> only by touching the screen
> - GPRS settings: if one by accident clicks 'username', 'APN', or
> 'password' instead of Connect, one actually has to re-type it because
> the 'back' button doesn't work.
> - There's nothing (no text/button) telling one should click in the
> black area to get to phonebook to select recipient in 'msgs' -> '+' or
> 'Tele'
> - Slow boot time (over 4min with Qi?)
> - the alsastatefile (kurppa.fi/freerunner/temp/gsmhandset.state_2009t3
> with Right PGA on control.63) is different from the latest 'working
> one' (with mic2) at
> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new
>
> ¤ How to connect to a hidden WLAN network? How about encryptions?
> ¤ The numbers in the home view showing missed calls or received
> messages could be bigger/colorful/something or even say 'one missed
> call' or 'new SMS received'
> ¤ At some stage I saw the : in the time blinking, then it stopped. I
> think it either should blink or not but not keep changing what it does
> (without telling me what does it mean :)
> ¤ Is there a way to enable illume from command line?
> ¤ Icon that's shown before GSM network registration doesn't tell me
> anything. What does it actually represent?
> ¤ The only place where I was able to find colors was the yellow flash
> in the battery icon when recharging. Using colors in other places too
> would maybe do it easier to use?
> ¤ With hundreds of phone numbers it'd be great to be able to type at
> least the first letter, or two-three to be able to find the
> ¤ I got many 'can't init topbar/wlan/...' -messages telling that
> something failed (only on the first start)
> ¤ The date doesn't need the | -bars in the home view:  it's | Sunday,
> May 10, 2009 |-  the bars just make it more difficult to read
> ¤ Does paroli (already / in the future?) support icons in the menus?
> Either so that there would be a icon grid or like now but every line
> would have a small icon just to make it easier to use
> ¤ GPRS settings: Should the password be hidden? (I don't know if
> anyone is really interested in GPRS passwords..)
> ¤ GPRS settings: maybe APN should be 'internet' by default, I think
> it's the most common APN?
> ¤ GPRS settings: I'd recommend reordering the items so that the
> connect would be first or last in the list.
> ¤ I/O really doesn't tell for a normal people that it's actually the call 
> log..
> ¤ Msgs could be replaced with SMS, if something short has to be used
> ¤ Tele also doesn't make sense, I'd suggest using 'Dialer'
> ¤ How do I use the alarm? How do I change the time when to alert?
> ¤ Maybe also reordering the main menu so that the phone log would not
> be the first one?
> ¤ At some stage my FR just decided not to resume any more
> ¤ After the 10min call the UI died, I wasn't able to press any
> buttons, nothing happened. Then after waiting some minutes it started
> running again. Sti

Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[Lorn Potter]

max wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Lorn Potter  wrote:
>> Levy wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 20:08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
>>>  wrote:
 Yeah,

 that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least
 something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it 
 looks
 like NIH syndrome.
>>> Someone is trying to make they use Pyneo on #ofone channel right now.
>>
>> I seriously doubt Nokia would ever have python on a Symbian device, 
>> especially on S40.
>>
> 
> Actually, Nokia is quite pro-Python. Check out these links for more info.
> 
> http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/pythonfors60/
> http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/PyS60_extensions

Let me rephrase that then. I doubt Nokia will ever ship python on a Symbian 
device.
Just because someone started an open source project within Nokia, doesn't mean 
it will ship in a
product.

> 
> Btw, an S60 device runs on the Symbian OS. An S40 device does not.

I stand corrected.

> 
> ( Btw, Nokia is pro-Ruby as well :-) . However, Ruby on Symbian is not
> as mature as Py60 is. Read more at:
> http://developer.symbian.com/main/community/open_source_projects/ruby/index.jsp
> )
> 
> - Ajith Hussain,
> Senior Software Engineer, Devices R&D, Nokia
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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[max]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Lorn Potter  wrote:
> Levy wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 20:08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
>>  wrote:
>>> Yeah,
>>>
>>> that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least
>>> something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it 
>>> looks
>>> like NIH syndrome.
>>
>> Someone is trying to make they use Pyneo on #ofone channel right now.
>
>
> I seriously doubt Nokia would ever have python on a Symbian device, 
> especially on S40.
>

Actually, Nokia is quite pro-Python. Check out these links for more info.

http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/pythonfors60/
http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/PyS60_extensions

Btw, an S60 device runs on the Symbian OS. An S40 device does not.

( Btw, Nokia is pro-Ruby as well :-) . However, Ruby on Symbian is not
as mature as Py60 is. Read more at:
http://developer.symbian.com/main/community/open_source_projects/ruby/index.jsp
)

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Re: Building om2009

[Angus Ainslie]

On May 11, 2009 03:34:48 pm Nicola Mfb wrote:
> Sorry if I missed this, but how to build om2009? is there instructions
> somewhere or a Makefile?
>
> Thanks
>
>  Nicola

Hi Nicola,

The build instructions are here 

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded

The scripts and conf directories that I use to build the distro's are here

http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/build/

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gsmhandset.state what means what?

[jeremy jozwik]

hello everyone.
can someone link me to or tell me what each of the controls actually
do in the gsmhandset.state file?

no need to go into the mixer or bass settings, but speaker volume
during a call and microphone volume are of importance. from vanilla
shr-testing output volume is horribly low. ive set a lot of the
controls to there max value and now im getting responses saying my
phone is too loud to the call receiver.

i know where to find "the" .state file, but it does not match what i
would like it to do.

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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[Lorn Potter]

Levy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 20:08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
>  wrote:
>> Yeah,
>>
>> that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least
>> something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it looks
>> like NIH syndrome.
> 
> Someone is trying to make they use Pyneo on #ofone channel right now.


I seriously doubt Nokia would ever have python on a Symbian device, especially 
on S40.


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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[Lorn Potter]

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Yeah,
> 
> that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least 
> something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it looks 
> like NIH syndrome.

kettle calling the pot black...
I always thought one of open source's strengths was choice.


> Until now, trying to co-work with these guys typically went like "yeah, you 
> can take our APIs, if you want. No, we don't want to look at yours, thanks.". 

This is partly due to the fact that they planned the roadmap forward in years, 
not weeks or months,
not to mention the waterfall development style they are probably using.

It might have been developed internally for quite some time before this.

> 
> In contrast to that, FSO rather embraces application developer's requests.
> 
> Lets see what happens this time.

You tell me, is Nokia opening up and really embracing open source?
http://qt.gitorious.org/qt


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Re: App Request

[jeremy jozwik]

could have it say "hey, i dont really want to talk to you now. please
call back at a normal time"
;)

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:45 PM, The Digital Pioneer
 wrote:
> Hi, all. I could really use an app that will automatically answer the phone
> and play a message (doesn't need to take a recording, though that would be a
> nice feature as well) depending on what time/day it is. Obviously, it
> wouldn't always answer, just during preprogrammed times that I can't take
> calls (in my case, during classes). I use SHR, so it would need to be
> FSO-friendly. Anyone feel up to the task, or perhaps even know of a app that
> already does this? I think it would be really useful for a lot of people.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> The Digital Pioneer
>
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App Request

[The Digital Pioneer]

Hi, all. I could really use an app that will automatically answer the phone
and play a message (doesn't need to take a recording, though that would be a
nice feature as well) depending on what time/day it is. Obviously, it
wouldn't always answer, just during preprogrammed times that I can't take
calls (in my case, during classes). I use SHR, so it would need to be
FSO-friendly. Anyone feel up to the task, or perhaps even know of a app that
already does this? I think it would be really useful for a lot of people.

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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[Levy]

Hi,

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 20:08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
 wrote:
> Yeah,
>
> that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least
> something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it looks
> like NIH syndrome.

Someone is trying to make they use Pyneo on #ofone channel right now.

[]'s
Levy/Lewis.

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neovento 5 released

[neovento]

This is the first release of this distribution under the new name neovento.
(fyp before)

It got some new features like Zhemes which allows you to change the
Zhone/LXDE theme easily.
The second desktop is now filled with the most important application links
as seen in other distributions.

Furthermore this release is less memory hungry than the ones before,  a
swapfile isn't needed but helps of course.

Have fun with it :)

http://opensvn.csie.org/fyp/releases/5/
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Re: USB port on openmoko

[Al Johnson]

It looks like a simple serial device plus a USB serial adapter. If you switch 
the USB port to host mode (see [1], note changes in kernel 2.6.28 paths) then 
plug in your compass it'll probably appear on serial port /dev/ttyUSB0. You 
can  check this using dmesg or logread to see that it was recognised. From 
there you can treat it as any other serial device. You should be able to find 
plenty of example code for that.

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host

On Monday 11 May 2009, bimo wrote:
> sorry forget to explain about that,
> I'm trying to attach digital compass (OS5000-US) to the neo freerunner.
>
> bimo
>
> On 11 May 2009, at 23:30, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> > Bimo Sunarfri Hantono  writes:
> >> I'm newbie in here, same as Mark Night I'm doing project on openmoko,
> >> I need to read data from usb sensor to openmoko (Neo Freerunner)
> >> can anybody give me an example code using QtExtended to do this?
> >
> > Hmm? You better tell us what kind of sensor it is and where the
> > documentation for that sensor is, otherwise it's very hard to help
> >
> > :-)
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Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

[Nicola Mfb]

2009/5/9 Angus Ainslie :
> Hi,
>
> Another week of hard work brings a new testing image, lets hear it for the 
> kernel,
> paroli and freesmartphone.org teams. As always it still has some issues ( that
> we are still working on )

Some issues important IMHO for daily use:
*) when the display dims, touching it to reactivate results in an
unwanted click event (shr handles this very well)
*) no lock
*) the infamous 1 pixel logout illume panel

Others:
*) random pixel at top of screen and around push buttons
*) If there is no SIM you get 6 messages about failed services
(GSM,GPRS,Audio etc.) they should collapse in a single "no sim
present" message
*) long time operations should be handled with some ui feedbacks (e.g.
display profile switch/the initial paroli setup/wifi scan)
*) it would be nice to have sound ticks when interacting with the UI
*) device should not suspend when connected to usb cable
*) if paroli has a subwindow opened (e.g. dialer) holding aux does not
show settings

A suggestion: switching to the illume display profile only to start
applications seems excessive to me, you have two clocks, two battery
indicators and less space on the screen, it would be nice to use the
AUX button in a smarter way, to lock device, switch to illume launcher
or other X applications, show settings and so on.

The last (already asked), I'd like to bitbake and test other
applications and prefer to stay aligned with om2009, so may you
provide build instructions?

Regards

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Re: USB port on openmoko

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

bimo  writes:
> I'm trying to attach digital compass (OS5000-US) to the neo freerunner.

Can you make it work with your PC?


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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Yeah,

that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least 
something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it looks 
like NIH syndrome.

Until now, trying to co-work with these guys typically went like "yeah, you 
can take our APIs, if you want. No, we don't want to look at yours, thanks.". 

In contrast to that, FSO rather embraces application developer's requests.

Lets see what happens this time.

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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

2009/5/11 Carsten Haitzler :
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 23:16:59 +0200 Nicola Mfb  said:
>
>> 2009/5/11 tammaro "pamdirac" palombo :
>> > an android without the htc? :)
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok another api framework for smartphones,this time provided by big
>> >> guys, but which hardware?, I haven't see any reference on that in the
>> >> web site. any clue any one?
>>
>> Mumble mumble... may they join/fund FSO guys? :)))
>
> somehow... i just don't see that happening.
I agree with raster, surelly they want to create their own party.
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Re: USB port on openmoko

[bimo]

sorry forget to explain about that,
I'm trying to attach digital compass (OS5000-US) to the neo freerunner.

bimo



On 11 May 2009, at 23:30, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

> Bimo Sunarfri Hantono  writes:
>> I'm newbie in here, same as Mark Night I'm doing project on openmoko,
>> I need to read data from usb sensor to openmoko (Neo Freerunner)
>> can anybody give me an example code using QtExtended to do this?
>
> Hmm? You better tell us what kind of sensor it is and where the
> documentation for that sensor is, otherwise it's very hard to help
> :-)
>
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Re: USB port on openmoko

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Bimo Sunarfri Hantono  writes:
> I'm newbie in here, same as Mark Night I'm doing project on openmoko,
> I need to read data from usb sensor to openmoko (Neo Freerunner)
> can anybody give me an example code using QtExtended to do this?

Hmm? You better tell us what kind of sensor it is and where the
documentation for that sensor is, otherwise it's very hard to help
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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 2: apt-get-file

[Rask Ingemann Lambertsen]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:13:39PM +0200, kimaidou wrote:
> No I did not. But now it it done, and after a apt-get update, I still get:
> 
> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   ledclock: Depends: python-pygtk but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: python-subprocess but it is not going to be installed
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify
> a solution).
> 
> Is it a specific hackable:1 problem ?

   I don't know. I've seen that "but it is not going to be installed"
message many times when trying to install packages (from the official Debian
repository) on Debian. Apt-get is most unhelpful when it comes to error
messages, basicly just saying: "I know exactly what the problem is, but I
won't tell you." :-(

   But, to try to debug the problem, what happens if you say

# apt-get --dry-run install python-pygtk python-subprocess

?

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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[The Rasterman]

On Mon, 11 May 2009 23:16:59 +0200 Nicola Mfb  said:

> 2009/5/11 tammaro "pamdirac" palombo :
> > an android without the htc? :)
> >
> > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok another api framework for smartphones,this time provided by big
> >> guys, but which hardware?, I haven't see any reference on that in the
> >> web site. any clue any one?
> 
> Mumble mumble... may they join/fund FSO guys? :)))

somehow... i just don't see that happening.

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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[The Rasterman]

On Mon, 11 May 2009 22:24:43 +0200 "tammaro \"pamdirac\" palombo"
 said:

android isn't linux. it doesn't count. (imho). it's a diferent os of its own
that happens to use a linux kernel (and a totally different userspace where some
open source libs have been ported to it).

> an android without the htc? :)
> 
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez <
> da...@tuxbrain.com> wrote:
> 
> > Ok another api framework for smartphones,this time provided by big
> > guys, but which hardware?, I haven't see any reference on that in the
> > web site. any clue any one?
> >
> > 2009/5/11 Jeffrey Ratcliffe :
> > > -- Forwarded message --
> > > From: Aki Niemi 
> > > Date: 2009/5/11
> > > Subject: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony
> > > project (oFono)
> > > To: debian-de...@lists.debian.org
> > > Cc: Marcel Holtmann 
> > >
> > >
> > > Intel and Nokia are pleased to jointly announce the oFono project
> > > (http://ofono.org), an open source project for developing an open source
> > > telephony solution.
> > >
> > > oFono.org is a place to bring developers together around designing an
> > > infrastructure for building mobile telephony (GSM/UMTS) applications.
> > > oFono.org is licensed under GPLv2, and it includes a high-level D-Bus
> > > API for use by telephony applications of any license.  oFono.org also
> > > includes a low-level plug-in API for integrating with Open Source as
> > > well as third party telephony stacks, cellular modems and storage
> > > back-ends.  The plug-in API functionality is modeled on public
> > > standards, in particular 3GPP TS 27.007 "AT command set for User
> > > Equipment (UE)."
> > >
> > > Source code is available on http://ofono.org/downloads and a high-level
> > > architecture diagram is available on http://ofono.org/documentation.  To
> > > join the mailing list, go to http://lists.ofono.org/listinfo/ofono.
> > >
> > > Nokia and Intel will jointly maintain the oFono project.  We'd like to
> > > invite all developers to join the oFono.org effort and community.
> > >
> > > Marcel Holtmann , Intel Open Source Technology
> > > Center
> > > Aki Niemi , Nokia Devices R&D, Maemo Software
> > >
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Re: USB port on openmoko

[Al Johnson]

On Monday 11 May 2009, Bimo Sunarfri Hantono wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm newbie in here, same as Mark Night I'm doing project on openmoko,
> I need to read data from usb sensor to openmoko (Neo Freerunner)
> can anybody give me an example code using QtExtended to do this?

That's rather an open ended question - there are many types of USB sensors 
with many ways of talking to them. Can you be more specific?

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Building om2009

[Nicola Mfb]

Sorry if I missed this, but how to build om2009? is there instructions
somewhere or a Makefile?

Thanks

 Nicola

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Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor

[martin]

Could it be possible to have a import button added?
Upload or just make the textarea 'level' writable and add a button to
reparse it ?

I closed my browser before submitting a level. Still, it remains in my
FR since I tested it.



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> We have 9 new levels in first evening, 7 - in second day, and 0 - in third
> day.
> I decided that it is time to bundle first revision of Extended Levelpack and
> I've already released it.
> Currently, it contains 28 levels.
> 8 persons are involved - thanks them.
> I will update levelpack regular if more levels will be shared.
> I suppose it is not necessary to notify mailing list about updates, so check
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Re: USB port on openmoko

[Bimo Sunarfri Hantono]

Hi All,

I'm newbie in here, same as Mark Night I'm doing project on openmoko,
I need to read data from usb sensor to openmoko (Neo Freerunner)
can anybody give me an example code using QtExtended to do this?

Kind Regards,

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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[Nicola Mfb]

2009/5/11 tammaro "pamdirac" palombo :
> an android without the htc? :)
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
>  wrote:
>>
>> Ok another api framework for smartphones,this time provided by big
>> guys, but which hardware?, I haven't see any reference on that in the
>> web site. any clue any one?

Mumble mumble... may they join/fund FSO guys? :)))

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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[tammaro "pamdirac" palombo]

an android without the htc? :)

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:34 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez <
da...@tuxbrain.com> wrote:

> Ok another api framework for smartphones,this time provided by big
> guys, but which hardware?, I haven't see any reference on that in the
> web site. any clue any one?
>
> 2009/5/11 Jeffrey Ratcliffe :
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Aki Niemi 
> > Date: 2009/5/11
> > Subject: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony
> > project (oFono)
> > To: debian-de...@lists.debian.org
> > Cc: Marcel Holtmann 
> >
> >
> > Intel and Nokia are pleased to jointly announce the oFono project
> > (http://ofono.org), an open source project for developing an open source
> > telephony solution.
> >
> > oFono.org is a place to bring developers together around designing an
> > infrastructure for building mobile telephony (GSM/UMTS) applications.
> > oFono.org is licensed under GPLv2, and it includes a high-level D-Bus
> > API for use by telephony applications of any license.  oFono.org also
> > includes a low-level plug-in API for integrating with Open Source as
> > well as third party telephony stacks, cellular modems and storage
> > back-ends.  The plug-in API functionality is modeled on public
> > standards, in particular 3GPP TS 27.007 "AT command set for User
> > Equipment (UE)."
> >
> > Source code is available on http://ofono.org/downloads and a high-level
> > architecture diagram is available on http://ofono.org/documentation.  To
> > join the mailing list, go to http://lists.ofono.org/listinfo/ofono.
> >
> > Nokia and Intel will jointly maintain the oFono project.  We'd like to
> > invite all developers to join the oFono.org effort and community.
> >
> > Marcel Holtmann , Intel Open Source Technology
> > Center
> > Aki Niemi , Nokia Devices R&D, Maemo Software
> >
> >
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Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

[Risto H. Kurppa]

- SMS: When viewing a message, one doesn't see the name of the sender
but the phone number (also when the number is saved in the phone
memory)
- MISC: when not in fullscreen mode (=illume enabled), one can't see
the used profile in the home view

¤ SIM: An option to save messages/numbers to SIM would be awesome when
testing stuff.. I keep losing SMS:s I've received. But it's the life
of a beta tester, I guess :)
¤ SMS: Writing an SMS that's longer than one line makes the first line
disappear from the screen when one writes the second line. Unnecessary
and annoying.
¤ SMS: When viewing a message, one can click on the sender number and
type a new number. Is this to forward the message? I take it's not
possible yet to edit a received message before forwarding?
¤ SMS: There's no character count in SMS view

¤ PROFILES: having the 'silent' profile on I received a SMS and got
audible alert. Shouldn't happen, I guess. When I have 'silent' profile
selected, going to settings -> phone shows me 'default' profile
selected. see 
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/0089ddba2f209e1bf6b8bc0f3c2279f2.png

After the screenshot I changed the profile from the setting menu
(default -> silent) and this is the log for that:

2009-05-11 23:03:27,789 Launcher INFO profile display changed to silent
2009-05-11 23:03:27,999 Launcher INFO profile display changed to silent
2009-05-11 23:03:28,109 Launcher INFO current: default new: silent
2009-05-11 23:03:36,426 settings-service INFO current index: 0
2009-05-11 23:03:36,435 settings-service INFO new value: silent
2009-05-11 23:03:37,114 Launcher INFO profile display changed to silent
2009-05-11 23:03:37,339 Launcher INFO profile display changed to silent
2009-05-11 23:03:37,445 gui  DEBUGlist sorting
2009-05-11 23:03:39,039 gui  INFO renewing callbacks
2009-05-11 23:03:39,049 settings-service INFO profile set to silent

ie. the profile item doesn't seem to follow the AUX changer but it
works the vice versa.



Some more comments inline below:

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Mirko Lindner  wrote:
>> - If one by accidentally presses 'Enter in the PIN input view, it just
>> accepts it and doesn't ask for PIN again.
>
> It does not return if you enter a wrong PIN?

No, I don't think it does. I now disabled PIN and restarted and I get
no PIN question.. (or did I.. I don't think I did..). So now the menu
says 'PIN on' but it doesn't ask for the PIN when starting.

On a start or two later it asks for the pin. I presses 'Enter' and got
the message 'can't init service GSM:
org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.Unauthoriz(and then it run out of the
screen..) and OK button.After this I also got the messages from GPRS
and TopBar, Audio, SIM & SMS failing (because GPRS & GSM are down)

logs here: http://pastebin.com/m37d37110

but anyway, it didn't ask again for the PIN after pressing 'enter'.
So I'd suggest checking for empty PIN when pressing Enter and if
that's the case, just ask it again (or at least suppress the ~7 error
messages?)

>>- wlan scan doesn't have a progress bar telling it's actually doing
>> something
>
> I am bound to what connman provides me. I don't get any progress sadly.
> Should Paroli block any action until it found a network (which can be bad in
> case there is none)? Or should it block until the scan is done (I believe
> there is a signal from connman when it "completed" a scan)?

Hmm.. Maybe a text 'scanning' until connman sends the 'completed' -signal?

>> - There's nothing (no text/button) telling one should click in the
>> black area to get to phonebook to select recipient in 'msgs' -> '+' or
>> 'Tele'
>
> Should it get a grey fill when no number is entered? Or an icon?

Something is needed. I'm not an GUI expert.. Could your UI designed
had a look at this?

>> ¤ How to connect to a hidden WLAN network? How about encryptions?
>
> WPA,WEP and WPA2 should be handled correctly. This should also cover 90% of
> all cases. I would love to have a more complete interface for wifi, but am
> afraid I won't have the time. If there is anyone who wants to adopt the
> whole wifi settings part (is only one py file) let me know and I'll get
> him/her git access along with all the help I can provide.

Right, it's cool if all visible networks are handled correctly.
Support for hidden is extra but not the first priority..

>> ¤ Is there a way to enable illume from command line?
>
> Angus answered that I believe, but why not use the setting in Display - >
> profile in paroli settings?

I'm working on a script (Kustomizer for OM2009) to be able to set up
FR as a complete package, not only simple Paroli-phone. See
http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX

>> ¤ With hundreds of phone numbers it'd be great to be able to type at
>> least the first letter, or two-three to be able to find the
>
> Agreed search function would be nice...no sure how to implement that.

A button with text 'search' that would launch the keyboard and typing
would straight jump to name i

Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor

[ANT]

We have 9 new levels in first evening, 7 - in second day, and 0 - in third
day.
I decided that it is time to bundle first revision of Extended Levelpack and
I've already released it.
Currently, it contains 28 levels.
8 persons are involved - thanks them.
I will update levelpack regular if more levels will be shared.
I suppose it is not necessary to notify mailing list about updates, so check
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Re: How to use mail

[Vincent MEURISSE]

On Monday 11 May 2009 20:21:58 flecktor wrote:
Hi
>one could not find in o(1) the subject names ,
Maybe the solution is just to put a subject in you own mails:)

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The solution to "how to read mail ?" is deadly simple : STOP USING HOTMAIL !
As I think you're using windows, I can recommend you to use a real mail client 
like thunderbird (this is not the best I know but it is the only running on 
windows). More info here 
 :)

If you love webmail, the best one to handle mailing lists is horde. 
Unfortunately I don't know free providers using it.

At last just use gmail they provide conversation grouping in a cool webmail.

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Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

Ok another api framework for smartphones,this time provided by big
guys, but which hardware?, I haven't see any reference on that in the
web site. any clue any one?

2009/5/11 Jeffrey Ratcliffe :
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Aki Niemi 
> Date: 2009/5/11
> Subject: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony
> project (oFono)
> To: debian-de...@lists.debian.org
> Cc: Marcel Holtmann 
>
>
> Intel and Nokia are pleased to jointly announce the oFono project
> (http://ofono.org), an open source project for developing an open source
> telephony solution.
>
> oFono.org is a place to bring developers together around designing an
> infrastructure for building mobile telephony (GSM/UMTS) applications.
> oFono.org is licensed under GPLv2, and it includes a high-level D-Bus
> API for use by telephony applications of any license.  oFono.org also
> includes a low-level plug-in API for integrating with Open Source as
> well as third party telephony stacks, cellular modems and storage
> back-ends.  The plug-in API functionality is modeled on public
> standards, in particular 3GPP TS 27.007 "AT command set for User
> Equipment (UE)."
>
> Source code is available on http://ofono.org/downloads and a high-level
> architecture diagram is available on http://ofono.org/documentation.  To
> join the mailing list, go to http://lists.ofono.org/listinfo/ofono.
>
> Nokia and Intel will jointly maintain the oFono project.  We'd like to
> invite all developers to join the oFono.org effort and community.
>
> Marcel Holtmann , Intel Open Source Technology
> Center
> Aki Niemi , Nokia Devices R&D, Maemo Software
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Re: [Mokomaze] Online level editor

[jeremy jozwik]

2 Ways made me smile.

nice work folks

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Petr Vanek  wrote:
> On Sat, 9 May 2009 12:14:46 -0500
> The Digital Pioneer  (TDP) wrote:
>
>>Ahh, yes, I missed that... :] Cool. :)
>>
>
> no, it wasn't there before :))
>
> in one afternoon we have 9 new levels :) great, thanks for the idea and
> for coding!
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Fwd: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)

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-- Forwarded message --
From: Aki Niemi 
Date: 2009/5/11
Subject: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony
project (oFono)
To: debian-de...@lists.debian.org
Cc: Marcel Holtmann 


Intel and Nokia are pleased to jointly announce the oFono project
(http://ofono.org), an open source project for developing an open source
telephony solution.

oFono.org is a place to bring developers together around designing an
infrastructure for building mobile telephony (GSM/UMTS) applications.
oFono.org is licensed under GPLv2, and it includes a high-level D-Bus
API for use by telephony applications of any license.  oFono.org also
includes a low-level plug-in API for integrating with Open Source as
well as third party telephony stacks, cellular modems and storage
back-ends.  The plug-in API functionality is modeled on public
standards, in particular 3GPP TS 27.007 "AT command set for User
Equipment (UE)."

Source code is available on http://ofono.org/downloads and a high-level
architecture diagram is available on http://ofono.org/documentation.  To
join the mailing list, go to http://lists.ofono.org/listinfo/ofono.

Nokia and Intel will jointly maintain the oFono project.  We'd like to
invite all developers to join the oFono.org effort and community.

Marcel Holtmann , Intel Open Source Technology
Center
Aki Niemi , Nokia Devices R&D, Maemo Software


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Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

[jeremy jozwik]

i was on shr-testing 20090422 when that issue was present. have yet to
try on 20090502. -10? that is beyond me

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:18 PM, c_c  wrote:

>  What distribution are you using? It works quite ok for me on SHR-unstable
> but I'll change the runlevel in the upcoming release. Would -10 be OK?

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Re: [SHR] Suspend/Shutdown/Etc dialog is only 1 pixel wide!

[The Digital Pioneer]

>
> you think EXEC=poweroff will do the same? i just want to know if it would
> work as a desktop icon
>

I don't see why not.
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Re: [SHR] Suspend/Shutdown/Etc dialog is only 1 pixel wide!

[jeremy jozwik]

well yah i know that much. i just want to know if it would work as a
desktop icon

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
 wrote:
> On Monday 11 May 2009 16:54:22 jeremy jozwik wrote:
>> you think EXEC=poweroff will do the same?
>
> Probably not, since powering off is something different than suspending.
>
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Re: [All] .sid file properties

[Cameron Frazier]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
 wrote:
> On Monday 11 May 2009 18:18:58 Cameron Frazier wrote:
>> After wading through the noise unsuccessfully on google, could anyone
>> point me towards some means of getting the track information from a
>> .sid file?
>
> There's no track information in .sid except
> *) name of main tune
> *) number of subtunes
> *) default subtune

That's what I've found, though the number of subtunes is all I'm
currently interested in.

> NOTE: Please don't crosspost so massively.

Point taken.  Apologies.

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[no subject]

[flecktor]

hello list,

is there a way for the mail to be populated in more order way? its hard to keep 
track of all the mails, one could not find in o(1) the subject names , or cut 
throw the data easily to understand and get partial grasp of the messages sent.

thanks
***(to
 help me find the message in the 
chaos),**

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Re: [All] .sid file properties

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

On Monday 11 May 2009 18:18:58 Cameron Frazier wrote:
> After wading through the noise unsuccessfully on google, could anyone
> point me towards some means of getting the track information from a
> .sid file?

There's no track information in .sid except
*) name of main tune
*) number of subtunes
*) default subtune

NOTE: Please don't crosspost so massively.

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Re: [SHR] Suspend/Shutdown/Etc dialog is only 1 pixel wide!

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

On Monday 11 May 2009 16:54:22 jeremy jozwik wrote:
> you think EXEC=poweroff will do the same?

Probably not, since powering off is something different than suspending.

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Re: [All] .sid file properties

[Cameron Frazier]

Dale, I did find something in the end [1], I suppose the google gods
felt pity on me.

It seems to tie up well with what is in a hexdump is telling me.  I
still need to confirm a few things though... mostly the track count.

I'll let the list know.

Regards,

Cameron 'Toaster`' frazier

[1] http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/LALA/Audio-SID-3.11/SID_file_format.txt

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Dale Maggee  wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> Hi,
>
> I've tried many times over many years to do this, and I've never managed
> to do so to my satisfaction. I did once (years ago) find a non-free (as
> in closed source _and_ cost $20) Sid to midi converter, but I never
> bought it and haven't been able to find it since
>
> My understanding is that sids don't actually contain any tracking info
> as such, they contain machine code for the sid chip - it's more accurate
> technically to say that sids and sid players are not so much a music
> format as an emulation format for a sound chip.
>
> But if you manage to find anything interesting, I'd appreciate hearing
> about it!
>
> Regards,
> - -Dale
>
> Cameron Frazier wrote:
>> After wading through the noise unsuccessfully on google, could anyone
>> point me towards some means of getting the track information from a
>> .sid file?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
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Re: [All] .sid file properties

[Dale Maggee]

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Hi,

I've tried many times over many years to do this, and I've never managed
to do so to my satisfaction. I did once (years ago) find a non-free (as
in closed source _and_ cost $20) Sid to midi converter, but I never
bought it and haven't been able to find it since

My understanding is that sids don't actually contain any tracking info
as such, they contain machine code for the sid chip - it's more accurate
technically to say that sids and sid players are not so much a music
format as an emulation format for a sound chip.

But if you manage to find anything interesting, I'd appreciate hearing
about it!

Regards,
- -Dale

Cameron Frazier wrote:
> After wading through the noise unsuccessfully on google, could anyone
> point me towards some means of getting the track information from a
> .sid file?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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Battery only charger

[Christian Rüb]

Hi,

does anyone know a good charger for the battery only?

The wiki page about the battery [1] tells that you cannot charge the Freerunner 
battery in a Nokia phone or with original Nokia chargers.
Does anyone know a working charger and a source where to get it (preferably in 
Germany).

Has anyone tried the Nokia DT-14 [2] in any combination with or without success?

 * DT-14 + original Nokia charger
 * DT-14 + non-Nokia charger (which?)
 * another desk stand (which?) + Nokia charger
 * another desk stand (which?) + (optinal) non-Nokia charger (which?)
 
Thanks for your help.

Cheers,
 Christian

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Battery
[2] http://europe.nokia.com/A4160020

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[All] .sid file properties

[Cameron Frazier]

After wading through the noise unsuccessfully on google, could anyone
point me towards some means of getting the track information from a
.sid file?

Kind regards,

Cameron 'Toaster`' Frazier

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Re: [SHR] Suspend/Shutdown/Etc dialog is only 1 pixel wide!

[Michael Zanetti]

On Monday 11 May 2009 10:43:17 Charles Clément wrote:
> I do use the suspend button a lot, as a substitute I created an
> application entry with the line:
>
> Exec=mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
> org.freesmartphone.Usage.Suspend
>
> and clicking on it suspends the phone. It might be helpful to others
> not wanting to switch to unstable ...
>

You can also assign the keypress to the suspend command in the illume 
settings...

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Re: [QTEi] battery duration

[leonardo]

David Garabana Barro ha scritto:
> On Monday 11 May 2009 14:46:56 leonardo wrote:
>>> "old" QtE uses deepsleep I believe, that indeed saves battery but
>>> misses out on a whole lot of stuff, because deep sleep has issues.
>> thanks,
>> that explains a lot...
> 
> You can find more information about this bug here:
> 
> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024
> 
> And the latest progress on it:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/hardw...@lists.openmoko.org/msg01077.html

o my god...

"Finally, after a while I found out that the problem goes
away if I warm up the Calypso chip by a few degrees. The
other chips of the GSM chipset (Digital Baseband and RF
Transceiver) or the 32 kHz and 26 MHz oscillator don't
care about warming, only if I warm up the Calypso,
the problem goes away"

a hardware problem that can be solved warming up the chip is really
original :-)

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Re: [SHR] Suspend/Shutdown/Etc dialog is only 1 pixel wide!

[jeremy jozwik]

you think EXEC=poweroff will do the same?

2009/5/11 Charles Clément :
> I do use the suspend button a lot, as a substitute I created an
> application entry with the line:
>
> Exec=mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
> org.freesmartphone.Usage.Suspend
>
> and clicking on it suspends the phone. It might be helpful to others
> not wanting to switch to unstable ...
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:39:36PM -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
>> I had this too, a few days ago. A opkg update/upgrade later and it was
>> working again. I was nigh unto ecstatic to have it back, I use that suspend
>> button a lot... :P
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Re: [shr-testing] fonts not showing up

[jeremy jozwik]

no dice, seems like to simple of a fix :)


On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Daniel.Li  wrote:

> $ mv fireflysung.ttf Fireflysung.ttf
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Re: [shr-testing] fonts not showing up

[Daniel.Li]

On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:52 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: 
> hello list! me again, seems every night ive got something new and
> exciting to ask. so here is todays installment!
> 
> ive just switched to shr-testing 20090502. just got done installing
> all the must have packages when i noticed my intone is not displaying
> chinese characters. i then tried to install fireflysung into
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype and load it from the illume font settings.
> 
> only it did not show, so i tried to copy a font from my linux box to
> the same place. nothing.
> restarted xserver. nothing
> restarted moko. nothing
> 
> anyone have a clue?


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Re: [QTEi] battery duration

[David Garabana Barro]

On Monday 11 May 2009 14:46:56 leonardo wrote:
> > "old" QtE uses deepsleep I believe, that indeed saves battery but
> > misses out on a whole lot of stuff, because deep sleep has issues.
>
> thanks,
> that explains a lot...

You can find more information about this bug here:

http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024

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Re: [QTEi] battery duration

[leonardo]

> "old" QtE uses deepsleep I believe, that indeed saves battery but
> misses out on a whole lot of stuff, because deep sleep has issues.

thanks,
that explains a lot...

ciao,
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Re: [request] gtkaddpoi ability to query wikimapia

[Carlo Minucci]

ivvmm ha scritto:
> Hello list.
> 
> Wouldn't it be much more efficient for gtkaddpoi to query wikimapia.org,
> instead of yahoo?
> 
> There are many places tagged there in my remote town and none in Yahoo.
> Any chance for this to appear in gtkaddpoi?

gtkaddpoi use yahoo because the API is very simple
with a query with city name, address and number, you can get easyly the 
latitude and longitude
with wikimapia is not possible... i think :)


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Re: [QTEi] battery duration

[Franky Van Liedekerke]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM, leonardo  wrote:
> Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto:
>> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Fabio Locati  wrote:
>>> Franky's QtEI last, on my phone, for 2/3 days... maybe your battery is
>>> going do die?
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:24 PM, leona...@lilik.it  wrote:
 Hi all,
 Is it my impression or QTEi from Franky tree has a much shorter lifetime
 then QTE? with standard QTE I could recharge once every 2/3 days, now it
 doesn't really get to the end of day.
 Franky, do you have any clue from where to start watching?

>>
>> uh, that's also possible ... I remember having read that the battery
>> start decreasing after 500 recharge cycles.
>> And I recharge about every day, for new testing and stuff.
>> Maybe recharging when connected to the usb should be optional ...
>
> Not in my case, yesterday I've booted plin QTE and it lasted more then
> QTEi. But, in QTE you do not receive SMS while asleep, does that mean
> that it is saving energy from the GSM chip?

"old" QtE uses deepsleep I believe, that indeed saves battery but
misses out on a whole lot of stuff, because deep sleep has issues.

Franky

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Re: [QTEi] battery duration

[leonardo]

Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto:
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Fabio Locati  wrote:
>> Franky's QtEI last, on my phone, for 2/3 days... maybe your battery is
>> going do die?
>>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:24 PM, leona...@lilik.it  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Is it my impression or QTEi from Franky tree has a much shorter lifetime
>>> then QTE? with standard QTE I could recharge once every 2/3 days, now it
>>> doesn't really get to the end of day.
>>> Franky, do you have any clue from where to start watching?
>>>
> 
> uh, that's also possible ... I remember having read that the battery
> start decreasing after 500 recharge cycles.
> And I recharge about every day, for new testing and stuff.
> Maybe recharging when connected to the usb should be optional ...

Not in my case, yesterday I've booted plin QTE and it lasted more then
QTEi. But, in QTE you do not receive SMS while asleep, does that mean
that it is saving energy from the GSM chip?

ciao,
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Re: Illume keyboard questions

[Pander]

more info and keyboards can be found here:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#List_of_illume_keyboards

Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm pretty impressed with the illume keyboard (and was a major part of my
> decision of buying the freerunner), and want to play with it a bit more.
> I would like to ask some questions and would like to propose two features.
> 
> 1. What are the numbers in the dictionary?
> I assume they are some occurence in the given language (english by default).
> So how much is 200? Or what are the hundred percent number?
> 
> So if I want to create a dictionary with only 40 words in it (and assuming
> there are no other (key)words in that language) what should be the numbers?
> 
> 2. Does the alphabetical order counts?
> So If I write a dictionary like this:
> bash 200
> cat 200
> python 200 <-- !!! here we go
> find 200
> grep 200
> kill 200
> killall 200
> ls 200
> ps 200
> top 200
> 
> Does it will recognize the word "python", as they are *not* in
> alphabetical order?
> 
> Feature request 1:
> 
> I would like to have different dynamic dictionary for each dictionary.
> Currently we have only one dynamic dictionary under
> ~/.e/e/dicts-dynamic/personal.dic
> 
> The problem with this setup, that if I create a dictionary for my own
> language and
> create an another one for special purpose (which contains only 40 words).
> And I regularly write english texts, native language texts and shell commands,
> they will pollute each other. So the keyboard will suggest
> english words in my native language and bash commands when I write english 
> text.
> 
> Feature request 2:
> I plan to write tables where one column will be english and the other
> an another language.
> So I would like to change the illume dictionary programatically.
> Is it possible currently? (I would like to use python for the program)
> 
> 
> Best regards,
>  Laszlo
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Illume keyboard questions

[Laszlo KREKACS]

Hi!

I'm pretty impressed with the illume keyboard (and was a major part of my
decision of buying the freerunner), and want to play with it a bit more.
I would like to ask some questions and would like to propose two features.

1. What are the numbers in the dictionary?
I assume they are some occurence in the given language (english by default).
So how much is 200? Or what are the hundred percent number?

So if I want to create a dictionary with only 40 words in it (and assuming
there are no other (key)words in that language) what should be the numbers?

2. Does the alphabetical order counts?
So If I write a dictionary like this:
bash 200
cat 200
python 200 <-- !!! here we go
find 200
grep 200
kill 200
killall 200
ls 200
ps 200
top 200

Does it will recognize the word "python", as they are *not* in
alphabetical order?

Feature request 1:

I would like to have different dynamic dictionary for each dictionary.
Currently we have only one dynamic dictionary under
~/.e/e/dicts-dynamic/personal.dic

The problem with this setup, that if I create a dictionary for my own
language and
create an another one for special purpose (which contains only 40 words).
And I regularly write english texts, native language texts and shell commands,
they will pollute each other. So the keyboard will suggest
english words in my native language and bash commands when I write english text.

Feature request 2:
I plan to write tables where one column will be english and the other
an another language.
So I would like to change the illume dictionary programatically.
Is it possible currently? (I would like to use python for the program)


Best regards,
 Laszlo

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[request] gtkaddpoi ability to query wikimapia

[ivvmm]

Hello list.

Wouldn't it be much more efficient for gtkaddpoi to query wikimapia.org,
instead of yahoo?

There are many places tagged there in my remote town and none in Yahoo.
Any chance for this to appear in gtkaddpoi?



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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 2: apt-get-file

[kimaidou]

No I did not. But now it it done, and after a apt-get update, I still get:

You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  ledclock: Depends: python-pygtk but it is not going to be installed
Depends: python-subprocess but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify
a solution).

Is it a specific hackable:1 problem ?

Thanks for your help


2009/5/11 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen 

> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:55:39AM +0200, kimaidou wrote:
>
> > My last pbm is my hackable apt-get wich does not want to install some
> > packages.. but it is not related to your script.
>
>Did you add the repository from part 1?
>
> # echo  >/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ril-oedepmappings.list \
> # 'deb http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/ /'
>
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Re: [QTEi] battery duration

[Rask Ingemann Lambertsen]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:05:39AM +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:

> Maybe recharging when connected to the usb should be optional ...

   This works on any recent kernel:

# echo >/sys/class/power_supply/usb/device/chg_curlim 0

(Although currently it is reset when you plug in power supply to the USB
port. That will be fixed RSN.)

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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 2: apt-get-file

[Rask Ingemann Lambertsen]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:55:39AM +0200, kimaidou wrote:

> My last pbm is my hackable apt-get wich does not want to install some
> packages.. but it is not related to your script.

   Did you add the repository from part 1?

# echo  >/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ril-oedepmappings.list \
# 'deb http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/ /'

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Re: [SHR] Suspend/Shutdown/Etc dialog is only 1 pixel wide!

[Robin Paulson]

2009/5/11 Charles Clément :
> I do use the suspend button a lot, as a substitute I created an
> application entry with the line:
>
> Exec=mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
> org.freesmartphone.Usage.Suspend
>
> and clicking on it suspends the phone. It might be helpful to others
> not wanting to switch to unstable ...

excellent, thank you

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Re: [debian] Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 2: apt-get-file

[kimaidou]

Thanks for your help
i change sh into bash, and it works now.

My last pbm is my hackable apt-get wich does not want to install some
packages.. but it is not related to your script.

Thanks a lot

2009/5/11 Stefan Monnier 

> > debian-gta02:~# apt-get-file install
> > http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
> > trap: 26: ERR: bad trap
>
> > Any clue ?
>
> The script uses /bin/sh but actually relies on bashisms, so if your
> /bin/sh is actually something else (like dash, according to my crystal
> ball), you need to tweak the script with a patch such as the one below.
>
>
>Stefan
>
>
> === modified file 'apt-get-file' (properties changed: -x to +x)
> --- apt-get-file2009-05-10 19:41:44 +
> +++ apt-get-file2009-05-10 19:47:27 +
> @@ -23,9 +23,12 @@
>  exit 1
>  }
>
> -trap exit_clean ERR
> -set -o errexit
> -set -o errtrace
> +# Bashisms.
> +#trap exit_clean ERR
> +#set -o errexit
> +#set -o errtrace
> +# For Dash.
> +trap exit_clean ILL QUIT SEGV HUP 0
>
>  if [ "--verbose" = "$1" ]; then
> shift
>
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Re: [SHR] Suspend/Shutdown/Etc dialog is only 1 pixel wide!

[Charles Clément]

I do use the suspend button a lot, as a substitute I created an
application entry with the line:

Exec=mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
org.freesmartphone.Usage.Suspend

and clicking on it suspends the phone. It might be helpful to others
not wanting to switch to unstable ...

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:39:36PM -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> I had this too, a few days ago. A opkg update/upgrade later and it was
> working again. I was nigh unto ecstatic to have it back, I use that suspend
> button a lot... :P

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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

[Yorick Moko]

i'm also in the posession of a gta02v5
gps + booting from SD (512MB and 8GB) card work just fine
(I'm using qi, but u-boot also did the trick)
y

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Vinzenz Hersche  wrote:
> i've got a 8 gb-sd-card and gps works well..
> tested with shr (testing + unstable), fyp and om 2008 ( a long time ago)..
>
> Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009 23.21:21 schrieb Doug Jones:
>> Johny Tenfinger wrote:
>> > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:34, Marcel  wrote:
>> >> I don't think the aux led is such a significant change, it doesn't light
>> >> that often anyway... I mostly see it on kernel panics which luckily
>> >> isn't that often :D
>> >
>> > But other changes are less significant ;) Booting without battery,
>> > which still doesn't work... and SD/GPS fix, which is fixed by software
>> > ;)
>>
>> Aargh..
>>
>> The SD/GPS issue was the one I really wanted to avoid.  I waited for
>> many months to order my Neo, just so I could avoid that.  Guess I just
>> need to start not believing anything I read on this list.  ;)
>>
>> I've spent the last month trying out various distros and various SD
>> cards, with varying amounts of agony.
>> Does anyone know of a list somewhere of distros that have the software
>> fix and are *known* to work well booted from SD cards >2GB, with GPS
>> running?
>>
>>
>> ...AND, if/when somebody succeeds in organizing a buzz fix party in
>> California, is there any possibility of upgrading this v5 to v6 and then
>> to v7?
>>
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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

[Vinzenz Hersche]

i've got a 8 gb-sd-card and gps works well..
tested with shr (testing + unstable), fyp and om 2008 ( a long time ago)..

Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009 23.21:21 schrieb Doug Jones:
> Johny Tenfinger wrote:
> > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:34, Marcel  wrote:
> >> I don't think the aux led is such a significant change, it doesn't light
> >> that often anyway... I mostly see it on kernel panics which luckily
> >> isn't that often :D
> >
> > But other changes are less significant ;) Booting without battery,
> > which still doesn't work... and SD/GPS fix, which is fixed by software
> > ;)
>
> Aargh..
>
> The SD/GPS issue was the one I really wanted to avoid.  I waited for
> many months to order my Neo, just so I could avoid that.  Guess I just
> need to start not believing anything I read on this list.  ;)
>
> I've spent the last month trying out various distros and various SD
> cards, with varying amounts of agony.
> Does anyone know of a list somewhere of distros that have the software
> fix and are *known* to work well booted from SD cards >2GB, with GPS
> running?
>
>
> ...AND, if/when somebody succeeds in organizing a buzz fix party in
> California, is there any possibility of upgrading this v5 to v6 and then
> to v7?
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Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

[Mirko Lindner]

Hi,

thanks for the kind words and the list of issues. We are trying to get 
all of them reproduced, so that I can hunt them down :) If you can 
reproduce the freezing issues or where the UI crashed, it would be great 
if you could open a ticket on http://www.paroli-project.org/trac and 
attach the paroli log and the fso log (/var/log/paroli.log and 
/var/log/frameworkd.log).



Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Thanks for this new release, really happy to see that only a short
> time (a week?) after the previous there's already a new release with
> bugs fixed. Release early, release often, as they say :)
> 
> I wrote some points below to show what's good, what I concider as
> bug/problem and points to discuss/wishlist/something. I'm sure some of
> it has already been discussed, some of it is just me not knowing how
> to use it (which can mean that it's not easy to use or a
> manual/something is needed) and so on. I'm happy to receive comments!
> 
> + This actually makes FR a simple, very working phone!! (I actually
> got a 10 min call from my mum. In the end I asked and she said there's
> a small echo left)
> + ability to turn off PIN check & change pin! (I think it's the first
> distro that can do it :)
> + WLAN-tool
> + manual suspend
> + decent resume speed
> 
> - some mess sometimes in the top of the scree

> - The button to 'go back / go to previous screen' keeps changing: In
> the menu there's a 'back' button (different size in different views)
> but in the people etc one has to know to press the top bar to go back.

> - Empty I/O shows an 'edit' button.. maybe it should be hidden and
> instead a text 'no logged events' could be shown?

good idea added to my list

> - keylock missing

think angus tried to find a suitable tool

> ¤ Would it be possible to add a SMS button in the 'People' -> contact
> view. Now clicking the number calls the user (intuitive? Why clicking
> the name nothing happens?). Maybe adding 'dial' and 'SMS' -buttons
> there just to make it clear.

The entries in people, messages and i/o should all be slidable (odd 
spelling) to the right and show you an extra action, for people this is 
a msgs button. unfortunately it seems to be not working for people, but 
in the other lists it seems ok.

> - If one by accidentally presses 'Enter in the PIN input view, it just
> accepts it and doesn't ask for PIN again.

It does not return if you enter a wrong PIN?

> - wlan scan doesn't have a progress bar telling it's actually doing something

I am bound to what connman provides me. I don't get any progress sadly. 
Should Paroli block any action until it found a network (which can be 
bad in case there is none)? Or should it block until the scan is done (I 
believe there is a signal from connman when it "completed" a scan)?

> - resume doesn't turn on the screen lights -> one knows it's resumed
> only by touching the screen

Will try to hook into the signal and set the back-light to 70.

> - GPRS settings: if one by accident clicks 'username', 'APN', or
> 'password' instead of Connect, one actually has to re-type it because
> the 'back' button doesn't work.

On it.

> - There's nothing (no text/button) telling one should click in the
> black area to get to phonebook to select recipient in 'msgs' -> '+' or
> 'Tele'

Should it get a grey fill when no number is entered? Or an icon?

> - Slow boot time (over 4min with Qi?)
> - the alsastatefile (kurppa.fi/freerunner/temp/gsmhandset.state_2009t3
> with Right PGA on control.63) is different from the latest 'working
> one' (with mic2) at
> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new
> 
> ¤ How to connect to a hidden WLAN network? How about encryptions?

WPA,WEP and WPA2 should be handled correctly. This should also cover 90% 
of all cases. I would love to have a more complete interface for wifi, 
but am afraid I won't have the time. If there is anyone who wants to 
adopt the whole wifi settings part (is only one py file) let me know and 
I'll get him/her git access along with all the help I can provide.

Any care-taker?

The same goes for any settings option you want to work on. It should be 
fairly easy to get into that part of paroli and a good way to get into 
the rest as well ;)

> ¤ The numbers in the home view showing missed calls or received
> messages could be bigger/colorful/something or even say 'one missed
> call' or 'new SMS received'

> ¤ At some stage I saw the : in the time blinking, then it stopped. I
> think it either should blink or not but not keep changing what it does
> (without telling me what does it mean :)

Sorry, that is the old way of setting the time and alarm. I will disable 
that.

> ¤ Is there a way to enable illume from command line?

Angus answered that I believe, but why not use the setting in Display - 
 > profile in paroli settings?

> ¤ Icon that's shown before GSM network registration doesn't tell me
> anything. What does it actually represent?

It is supposed to mean not connec

Re: FSY ? - was: Re: [FSY] Stuck in desktop switcher

[Olivier Berger]

"Alfie"  writes:

> Sorry... having one of those days. Yes FYP :)
>

As I understand it, FYP is an alias for Neovento, then... so maybe someone
should mention that in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions ?

My 2 cents,

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Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Angus Ainslie  wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:24 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>>
>> - some mess sometimes in the top of the screen
>
> Yup, please add it to the bug tracker

I'm a bit unsure about this, I reflashed and wasn't able to see it..
I'll leave it unreported for now.

>> - resume doesn't turn on the screen lights -> one knows it's resumed
>> only by touching the screen
>
> please add this too.

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2286

>> - Slow boot time (over 4min with Qi?)
>
> My tests only show a 10 second difference between qi and u-boot, I will
> start working on this soon. I was trying to get it stable before I
> started to optimize

I compared it to 2008.12. I don't have any data here but as far as I
remember it's something like 2-3mins?

>> - the alsastatefile (kurppa.fi/freerunner/temp/gsmhandset.state_2009t3
>> with Right PGA on control.63) is different from the latest 'working
>> one' (with mic2) at
>> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new
>>
> Oops that was supposed to be in this release I'll see what happened
> tomorrow.

great, thanks!

>> ¤ Is there a way to enable illume from command line?
>
> mdbus org.enlightenment.wm.service /org/enlightenment/wm/RemoteObject
> org.enlightenment.wm.[List|Set]

can't find it..? mdbus -s didn't show me org.enlightenment at all..
and mdbus just tells me 'Service name not found'. Is there any extra
packages required for this or something?

>> ¤ At some stage my FR just decided not to resume any more
>
> Please send a log

Reflashed, but if this happens again, I'll try to see if I can find something..

>> ¤ After the 10min call the UI died, I wasn't able to press any
>> buttons, nothing happened. Then after waiting some minutes it started
>> running again. Still the top left shows '100' instead of default or
>> silent..
>>
>
> A log would be helpful here too
>

Reflashed, but if this happens again, I'll try to see if I can find something..



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Re: [QTEi] battery duration

[Franky Van Liedekerke]

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Fabio Locati  wrote:
> Franky's QtEI last, on my phone, for 2/3 days... maybe your battery is
> going do die?
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:24 PM, leona...@lilik.it  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Is it my impression or QTEi from Franky tree has a much shorter lifetime
>> then QTE? with standard QTE I could recharge once every 2/3 days, now it
>> doesn't really get to the end of day.
>> Franky, do you have any clue from where to start watching?
>>

uh, that's also possible ... I remember having read that the battery
start decreasing after 500 recharge cycles.
And I recharge about every day, for new testing and stuff.
Maybe recharging when connected to the usb should be optional ...

Franky

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