Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: (Private note: I have this strange sense of Deja Vu :-), although it's been a long time since we had this argument :-) On Tuesday 12 May 2009 02:56:12 Lorn Potter wrote: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Yeah, that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it looks like NIH syndrome. kettle calling the pot black... I always thought one of open source's strengths was choice. What sounds like an asset is a liability thanks to fragmentation. I'd rather chose among few great options than lots of medicre ones. Until now, trying to co-work with these guys typically went like yeah, you can take our APIs, if you want. No, we don't want to look at yours, thanks.. This is partly due to the fact that they planned the roadmap forward in years, not weeks or months, not to mention the waterfall development style they are probably using. It might have been developed internally for quite some time before this. Which doesn't make me more confident in their ability to shape the platform APIs _together_ with the application developers as opposed to merely impose it on them. If it continues to be like that, FSO has a bright life. In contrast to that, FSO rather embraces application developer's requests. Lets see what happens this time. You tell me, is Nokia opening up and really embracing open source? http://qt.gitorious.org/qt That's Qt and they have inherited this style from Trolltech. But it isn't Trolltech that gave the ok for this to go ahead. Nokia had to sign off on it too. The way Nokia has developed Maemo it was always about take it or leave it the way it is. True. But Nokia is paranoid about patents and copyrights and licenses and such things. Which might explain one reason why this has been true. Open source does not necessarily mean an open development process, you should know that better than me :) I think that most open source projects have a rather closed development process. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Qt Software RD, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
USB networking now creates eth1 on host (was: Re: [neovento 5] applications!)
neovento schumi_8_2...@gmx.de writes: Ok please try with Uboot. There were often problems with Qi and debian kernels. Why do you suggest this instead of using the correct method?! The guy obviously got eth1 on host. Every time. He should have used it instead of finding older incorrectly working versions of bootloaders. The reason is simple: since Qi was fixed to properly provide factory-configured MAC address for the usb networking interface, it's detected on the host as it should, every time udev sees that device it'll assign the same static interface to it (in the simplest case it'll be eth1), that's the main improvement actually! I wonder why you neovento guys don't read kernel mailing list, devel mailing list where this was elaborated in details, why you never come to IRC to discuss low-level issues etc. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Announce] Intel and Nokia announce open source telephony project (oFono)
Lorn Potter wrote: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: (Private note: I have this strange sense of Deja Vu :-), although it's been a long time since we had this argument :-) On Tuesday 12 May 2009 02:56:12 Lorn Potter wrote: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Yeah, that's pretty sad. They should have picked FSO or even Pyneo or at least something that is already in development for quite a while. This way it looks like NIH syndrome. kettle calling the pot black... I always thought one of open source's strengths was choice. What sounds like an asset is a liability thanks to fragmentation. I'd rather chose among few great options than lots of medicre ones. Until now, trying to co-work with these guys typically went like yeah, you can take our APIs, if you want. No, we don't want to look at yours, thanks.. This is partly due to the fact that they planned the roadmap forward in years, not weeks or months, not to mention the waterfall development style they are probably using. It might have been developed internally for quite some time before this. Which doesn't make me more confident in their ability to shape the platform APIs _together_ with the application developers as opposed to merely impose it on them. If it continues to be like that, FSO has a bright life. In contrast to that, FSO rather embraces application developer's requests. Lets see what happens this time. You tell me, is Nokia opening up and really embracing open source? http://qt.gitorious.org/qt That's Qt and they have inherited this style from Trolltech. But it isn't Trolltech that gave the ok for this to go ahead. Nokia had to sign off on it too. The way Nokia has developed Maemo it was always about take it or leave it the way it is. True. But Nokia is paranoid about patents and copyrights and licenses and such things. Which might explain one reason why this has been true. Open source does not necessarily mean an open development process, you should know that better than me :) I think that most open source projects have a rather closed development process. Just some simplified thoughts (my 2 euro cents): Invitation to major companies: give lead developers of a certain open source technology you want to adopt an air plane ticket to your office and sit down for an afternoon. Those guys (and girls) can also work under a contract with/for you or you could assign some developers of your own to work with them. Just do lots of operational risk management to guarantee a successful outcome (=proper project management). I know it sounds a bit daring, because major companies cannot afford to have a zillion phones produced without properly working software to go with it. From the other side, complete automated test suits integrated in release management, like Android is using, is lacking in FSO/SHR. such a tighter procedure could be used to control the risks in releases and lower the threshold for outside investors. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR] ogpsd/fso-gpsd: can't get 4Hz sample rate
Hello list, I also noticed last time i tried that i wasn't able to filter GPLL, GPGSA and friends using the ubxgen script from the wiki. Is it related? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-SHR--ogpsd-fso-gpsd%3A-can%27t-get-4Hz-sample-rate-tp2884445p2888680.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QtExtended and losing network
Hello According to my understanding Qt handle calls using CPI messages. If Moko lost network coverage sometimes after reconnection to provider, Qt does not receive CPI messages and therefore application do not receive call status events and we are not able to recognize any incoming or outgoing call event. regards Mile ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2009] Real slowdown in frameworkd, resulting no ringtones
Hi! With the newest om2009 image[1], there is no ringtones when calling. I used a week older image, where I applied all the paroli patches from git. There were no problem like this. Now I only get ringtones if the other part hang up before I get the paroli call screen. In that case I get ringtone for about 2-3 sec. (but the phone calling is already ended) I suspect this issue coming from frameworkd, because the paroli call screen comes up after five vibrates! Can anyone confirm my suspect? (in fact I was hoping to get rid of the irritating 2 sec delay when I accept the call. Never thought it can be worsened) There are instructions[2] on the wiki if anybody feels courage to try him out;) Does this bug appears with the newest SHR too? (it would confirm the frameworkd) Best regards, Laszlo [1]: 13-May-2009 18:25 http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/unstable/NeoFreerunner/fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.tar.gz [2]: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-issues#Reflashing_Paroli ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended and losing network
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Mile Davidovic david.moko.comun...@gmail.com wrote: Hello According to my understanding Qt handle calls using CPI messages. If Moko lost network coverage sometimes after reconnection to provider, Qt does not receive CPI messages and therefore application do not receive call status events and we are not able to recognize any incoming or outgoing call event. regards Mile hi, which version of QtE are you using? And which kernel, etc ... ? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Dear all, since some of you did not receive our mails (spam filters are sometimes too critical), here a status update: * components have been released by customs and have finally arrived * so you can now send devices to us * please follow the rework service instructions (e.g. just send the device and no accessories to avoid risk that anything is lost). http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf * we have got several requests from outside of the EU if we can help - and we would be happy to help - but customs handling to avoid paying import duties twice (by you and/or by us) are too complex and shipment cost is high. So, please organize something in your local region yourself. If you need to discuss how to do it, please drop me a mail. Nikolaus Schaller Am 13.05.2009 um 19:05 schrieb Leonti Bielski: From: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you to track your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming parcels. Since we already have to sent it with the service with tracking there is no point in GD confirming it once more - we should be able to see it in our tracking service. We will confirm anyway, but if it does not arrive - we have no idea how to help otherwise... Leonti On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: Will we get a notification when Golden Delicious has recieved our device? On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:45 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: The free battery is a courtesy from Openmoko and is included in both approaches. OM sends a set of spare batteries to the one who organizes a party. He hands them out to you during that party. But I don't know if it applies to I had my phone recently fixed in a fix party in Germany or just to future parties. at least there where no batteries in braunschweig may 1-3. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
what will be the price of the re-work? Mentioning 'Hermes', you mean these guys: http://www.hermespaketshop.de/ Thanks Tony On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote: Dear all,since some of you did not receive our mails (spam filters are sometimes too critical), here a status update: * components have been released by customs and have finally arrived * so you can now send devices to us * please follow the rework service instructions (e.g. just send the device and no accessories to avoid risk that anything is lost). http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf * we have got several requests from outside of the EU if we can help - and we would be happy to help - but customs handling to avoid paying import duties twice (by you and/or by us) are too complex and shipment cost is high. So, please organize something in your local region yourself. If you need to discuss how to do it, please drop me a mail. Nikolaus Schaller Am 13.05.2009 um 19:05 schrieb Leonti Bielski: From: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you to track your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming parcels. Since we already have to sent it with the service with tracking there is no point in GD confirming it once more - we should be able to see it in our tracking service. We will confirm anyway, but if it does not arrive - we have no idea how to help otherwise... Leonti On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: Will we get a notification when Golden Delicious has recieved our device? On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:45 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: The free battery is a courtesy from Openmoko and is included in both approaches. OM sends a set of spare batteries to the one who organizes a party. He hands them out to you during that party. But I don't know if it applies to I had my phone recently fixed in a fix party in Germany or just to future parties. at least there where no batteries in braunschweig may 1-3. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host (was: Re: [neovento 5] applications!)
Paul Fertser wrote: Why do you suggest this instead of using the correct method?! Why didn't you suggest the correct method before, though you knew the correct method all the time??? Paul Fertser wrote: The guy obviously got eth1 on host. Every time. He should have used it instead of finding older incorrectly working versions of bootloaders. The reason is simple: since Qi was fixed to properly provide factory-configured MAC address for the usb networking interface, it's detected on the host as it should, every time udev sees that device it'll assign the same static interface to it (in the simplest case it'll be eth1), that's the main improvement actually! Ok, Ill try that. Paul Fertser wrote: I wonder why you neovento guys don't read kernel mailing list, devel mailing list where this was elaborated in details, why you never come to IRC to discuss low-level issues etc. Lack of motivation and time. This is only some hobby, we spend as much time in it as we consider being appropriate. You guys can just ignore the neovento guys. So what's the problem? As long there won't be any usable distributions for my freerunner, I'll make my own. Easy, right? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2889485.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host
reznor schumi_8_2...@gmx.de writes: Paul Fertser wrote: Why do you suggest this instead of using the correct method?! Why didn't you suggest the correct method before, though you knew the correct method all the time??? Sorry, i was a bit busy and the thread called neovento apps wasn't of the most interest to me so i've read it a bit later, just that. Moreover, the problem is obvious from the host's dmesg. I wonder why you neovento guys don't read kernel mailing list, devel mailing list where this was elaborated in details, why you never come to IRC to discuss low-level issues etc. Lack of motivation and time. This is only some hobby, we spend as much time in it as we consider being appropriate. You guys can just ignore the neovento guys. So what's the problem? As long there won't be any usable distributions for my freerunner, I'll make my own. Easy, right? Heh, my remark wasn't meant to be offensive, take it easy ;) The problem is that i feel neovento guys are separating from the developers community by not using our mailing lists and IRC. I've heard you're using some web-forum (is it really true?) i can't imagine you'll get any help from the other devs using such a crappy method. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host (was: Re: [neovento 5] applications!)
Why do you suggest this instead of using the correct method?! Why didn't you suggest the correct method before, though you knew the correct method all the time??? it was suggested -- at least once and i repeated it after seeing that apparently no one cared to read that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host
Paul Fertser wrote: Heh, my remark wasn't meant to be offensive, take it easy ;) The problem is that i feel neovento guys are separating from the developers community by not using our mailing lists and IRC. I've heard you're using some web-forum (is it really true?) i can't imagine you'll get any help from the other devs using such a crappy method. neovento is not such a professional distribution like all the others like SHR, Android, OM and so on. Additionally it is quite new. I started it just about four months ago as a one man fun thing. That it actually turned into something useful for some people is nice. I think you have a completely wrong idea of the whole thing. We have one thread on the fyp forum, that's right. It's just for some communication within that community. I actually don't know what's crappy on that and why we need so much help from the devs? When there were issues I just mailed into the debianonfreerunner mailinglist and got response. Excuse me, but for not wanting to be offensive you are writing some really arrogant crap. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2889594.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Hello; Is it possible to ask for any other minor fix along with debuzzing? My device came with blank NOR and I don't want to buy a debug board just to use once. I don't mind paying a few extra €s. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR] ogpsd/fso-gpsd: can't get 4Hz sample rate
I tried again, it works as expected. KaZeR wrote: Hello list, I also noticed last time i tried that i wasn't able to filter GPLL, GPGSA and friends using the ubxgen script from the wiki. Is it related? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-SHR--ogpsd-fso-gpsd%3A-can%27t-get-4Hz-sample-rate-tp2884445p2889709.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Am 14.05.2009 um 12:26 schrieb Tony Berth: what will be the price of the re-work? Please refer for all detauls to http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework Mentioning 'Hermes', you mean these guys: http://www.hermespaketshop.de/ Yes, but I think they operate/originate only in Germany. They most likely have partners in other countries (http://www.hermespaketshop.de/paketeversenden_international.php ). The idea behind is that you don't waste 50 EUR for an overnight courier and then have to wait anyway some days until we have repaired. And, they have online tracking for small parcels (petite paquet) which only provide at much higher tariff. But there may be other shipment services with even better conditions. Nikolaus Thanks Tony On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote: Dear all, since some of you did not receive our mails (spam filters are sometimes too critical), here a status update: * components have been released by customs and have finally arrived * so you can now send devices to us * please follow the rework service instructions (e.g. just send the device and no accessories to avoid risk that anything is lost). http://www.handheld-linux.com/images/Instructions.pdf * we have got several requests from outside of the EU if we can help - and we would be happy to help - but customs handling to avoid paying import duties twice (by you and/or by us) are too complex and shipment cost is high. So, please organize something in your local region yourself. If you need to discuss how to do it, please drop me a mail. Nikolaus Schaller Am 13.05.2009 um 19:05 schrieb Leonti Bielski: From: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you to track your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming parcels. Since we already have to sent it with the service with tracking there is no point in GD confirming it once more - we should be able to see it in our tracking service. We will confirm anyway, but if it does not arrive - we have no idea how to help otherwise... Leonti On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: Will we get a notification when Golden Delicious has recieved our device? On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:45 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: The free battery is a courtesy from Openmoko and is included in both approaches. OM sends a set of spare batteries to the one who organizes a party. He hands them out to you during that party. But I don't know if it applies to I had my phone recently fixed in a fix party in Germany or just to future parties. at least there where no batteries in braunschweig may 1-3. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debuzzing
Unfortunately no since flashing a blank NOR is a completely different thing. Maybe someone from Eindhoven has a Debug Board and can help you? Am 14.05.2009 um 14:12 schrieb Atilla Filiz: Hello; Is it possible to ask for any other minor fix along with debuzzing? My device came with blank NOR and I don't want to buy a debug board just to use once. I don't mind paying a few extra €s. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call
I don't think there is an existing ticket for that, so feel free to open a new one :) And the interesting logs are /var/log/paroli.log /var/log/frameworkd.log i got a nice failure-to-suspend last night, and snagged a copy of everything in /var/log before rebooting the 'moko. if memory serves, it happened after an SMS message came in. i checked the count of paroli windows using the illume top bar, and there were not more than two. I dont think that this failed to suspend problem is related to paroli at all. I think this problem is only frameworkd, and calypso issue. I verified(?) it, when this problems appears, I initiate the suspend command through cli-framework, and obviously it fails too: r...@om-gta02:~# cli-framework usagei failed to connect to bluez freesmartphone.org interactive command line usageiface.Suspend() And it hangs there for about five minutes. The relevant logs: console: http://pastebin.com/m76f069ef dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m69d4c404 frameworkd(relevant part): http://pastebin.com/m2101c4d5 I also carry the full frameworkd.log, and have one more saved logs when occured again. I dont send SMS. I tried once, but was too long (was corrected by paroli with a nice popup, and a counter, thx!) I only use my phone for calling, ie. intiate calls and receive them. The failed to suspend problem usually happens when I *receive* the call, and after I talked, and hang up, I cant suspend anymore. Note please, this does not happen all the time, and never happened the first call after booting. It happens the second, third, etc received call. Pretty much random this nasty bug. I also tried with yesterdays (om2009 unstable) image, the same failure, and it happens even more often. This and the massive slowdown of frameworkd[1] prevents me from using my phone as a *reliable* day-to-day phone. All the other (paroli) bugs was fixed by mirko (thx!). So where to open the proper bugreport? I think we must gather some attention to be fixed once and for all;) And what else information should we gather from the phone, when this problem happens? Im more than happy to try to assist bughunting!;) [1]: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-May/047921.html Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[fso/openmoko-panel-plugin] headset button?
while playing around with the wired headset, i noticed, that apparently the plug in of the headset does not cause the gsmheadset.state to be loaded. further investigation turned up that openmoko-panel-plugin in he category buttons offers to handle the headset -- looks good, but ... there's nothing to be configured -- just [] handle headset. well, what does handle mean? shouldn't there be something to be done? i for one would like to switch alsa states upon plugin / oout. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
2009/5/10 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 02:39, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: where are you finding the revision you quoted? In shr-unstable, as it was said before ;) right, after going round the houses, this module is apparently not in -testing so, back to the original question: are there any apps written to work with new kernels (.29), which will switch the usb port between host and device? afaics, the apps on opkg.org are all written to the old /sys layout and shortom has not been updated recently or, is anybody successfully using either of these apps on a recent kernel? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
I should update mine to work: http://www.opkg.org/package_40.html But if you can use vim you can opkg install it then edit /usr/bin/usb.sh as per the instructions on the opkg.org page. If I can find two minutes at some point I'll test / re-package and update. Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/14 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: 2009/5/10 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 02:39, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: where are you finding the revision you quoted? In shr-unstable, as it was said before ;) right, after going round the houses, this module is apparently not in -testing so, back to the original question: are there any apps written to work with new kernels (.29), which will switch the usb port between host and device? afaics, the apps on opkg.org are all written to the old /sys layout and shortom has not been updated recently or, is anybody successfully using either of these apps on a recent kernel? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Every web-forum sucks by definition, isn't it obvious? (was: Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host)
reznor schumi_8_2...@gmx.de writes: Excuse me, but for not wanting to be offensive you are writing some really arrogant crap. :D -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Every web-forum sucks by definition, isn't it obvious?
I hope it is not offending to anyone when I ask if personal feuds could be taken off this list and fought out in private... Paul -- A minute's success pays the failure of years. -Robert Browning http://www.nlpagan.net MHC - running on Mandriva 2009.0, Ubuntu 9.04, Netbook Remix Saucony (Before printing this mail: consider the environment!) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(Neovento) gprs ui bug
neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
Sean holmes ha scritto: neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work. Could you please use a larger font as yours is unreadable? Thank you :D Bye! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] Real slowdown in frameworkd, resulting no ringtones
On May 14, 2009 02:58:38 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! With the newest om2009 image[1], there is no ringtones when calling. I used a week older image, where I applied all the paroli patches from git. There were no problem like this. Which ringtone are you using ? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call
On May 14, 2009 06:30:42 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I also carry the full frameworkd.log, and have one more saved logs when occured again. Please include the whole log as an error with frameworkd can occur long before the problem manifests itself. You can sanitize phone numbers from it but I would prefer that no other editing is done. Thanks Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
Sean holmes wrote: neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work. Maybe it is too narrow for you, for me it works. I can put internet.tele2.nl in it without a problem. Perhaps if you share how much space you need, that would be a pointer to the developer... Just trying to help Paul -- A minute's success pays the failure of years. -Robert Browning http://www.nlpagan.net MHC - running on Mandriva 2009.0, Ubuntu 9.04, Netbook Remix Saucony (Before printing this mail: consider the environment!) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [neovento] nand space workaround?
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Staley, Daniel L dlst...@uky.edu wrote: I recently installed neovento, and I like what has been done! However, because I flashed the neovento image to the nand, I am running pretty low on space for installing new packages (And with the debian repos open to me...it is surely quick to fill!) My initial idea was to copy my /usr to the uSD card and then just mount it on boot. I also looked at the mhddfs package (seems pretty neatnot sure if it would work well here or not) But then i wondered if there was an easier waysurely someone has run into this already? What other ways have people got around the internal nand size limitation? (Besides just installing the whole thing on the uSD card) Hi Daniel, What I did was make a directory on /mnt/sdcard which neovento has already mounted it is the first partition on the card, named it cache and then set up directories under it to match those in /var/cache then change /var/cache to /var/was-cache (a habit I keep originals) then sit in /var and ln -s /mnt/sdcard/cache I had actually done it before and had a good collection of debs downloaded earlier, and after setting it up like that again i did an apt-get update and then installed a couple of things especially less and apt-utils and man-db, it got the debs out of the cache - very satisfactory. cheers, clare Also, does anyone have experience with mhddfs and could comment on if it would work welll here? Thanks, -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR] ogpsd/fso-gpsd: can't get 4Hz sample rate
Thanks for the hints, GUYS.
Yes, I usually do disable all the message types I don't need, leaving
only GPRMC and GPGGA. :)
I think I've found the bottleneck on this issue, and filed bug #431 on FSO.
http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/431
Citando mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com:
read this: http://www.nabble.com/GPS-at-4-Hz-td17096809.html
NOTE about baud rate. If you can't change it, you can disable some NMEA
messages to make sure
the default baud rate (9600) is ok for 4hz rate.
On page 106, u-blox5_Protocol_Specifications(GPS.G5-X-07036).pdf says:
... The calculation of the navigation solution will always be aligned to
the top of a second.
Vasco Névoa wrote:
I've tried configuring (via frameworkd's om.py) the chip with a 3000ms
period between samples, and sure enough gpspipe is outputting only one
set of messages per every 3 seconds - so this proves my CFG-RATE
message is correctly delivered.
However, I also see that the gpspipe output is... chaotic. Although
the NMEA timestamps are always correct (they skip 3 seconds),
sometimes the messages are delayed and then delivered in batches. For
example, there is nothing for 6 seconds, and both messages are
delivered together.
If I set the period to 5.25 seconds, I can see that all the timestamps
coming out of gpspipe end with .00, which is obviously wrong.
Many of the sentences are repeated, like the SW couldn't wait for the
next UBX data block and just repeated the last data block.
Who is doing this sample mangling?
Citando Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt:
Hi all.
I'm used to putting the GTA02's ublox chip into 4Hz sample mode for my
research projects, but ever since I started using FSO and derivatives
I can't get it to spit out anything other than 1Hz samples - so I just
stop fso-gpsd, configure the chip at my own will, and read directly
from /dev/ttySAC1.
However, this is the unfriendly way to do it, and I'd like to
integrate this option with FSO.
So I found the initialization sequence inside
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/om.py
and added this to the end of def initializeDevice, just before the
self.huiTimeout = gobject.timeout_add_seconds( 300,
self.requestHuiTimer ):
# increase sample data rate to 4Hz:
self.send(CFG-RATE, 6, {Meas : 0x00fa, Nav : 0x0001,
Time : 0x})
Unfortunately, it doesn't change anything. gpspipe -r will still put
out a single set of messages per second, even though the GPS chip is
(hopefuly) configured for 4 sets per second. When used with the
original gpsd in other older distros, this didn't happen; gpspipe -r
outputs whatever the the gpsd delivers. So the problem is most likely
in FSO's ogpsd implementation.
Sending a u-blox binary string into /dev/ttySAC1 with the same config
message while fso-gpsd is working also doesn't work out (I've tried
many times just in case I'm racing with the framework and messages get
mangled).
I've combed the framework code in that folder trying to find any 1s
cycle hardcoded, but everything looks as it should: event-triggered by
available data.
So the 1M€ question is: where the heck is this 1s polling cycle
defined? How can I get the ogpsd framework to output 4 samples per
second instead of 1?
Any hints will be appreciated.
Thx,
V.
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[SHR-Testing] Battery meter not reading battery life correctly
Has anyone noticed with the 05/02/2009 release of SHR-Testing that the battery meter is not reading correctly? While taking a hike and doing some OSM tracking I received a Low battery warning, thinking it was real I put an early stop to it so I could get it charging before the battery dies but a minute after I received that warning the battery life jumped back up to 92% and it was saying I had over 4 hours left. Has this happened to anyone before, and if so is it fixed in Unstable or does it need reported? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR] ogpsd/fso-gpsd: can't get 4Hz sample rate
I don't have much of a problem there... see this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Configuration_for_a_higher_sampling_rate However, you must remember that frameworkd sends a lot of configurations into the chip, and it keeps talking to it, so it might be a bit of a hassle to get the chip to listen to you without shutting down the framework. Usually, I just do /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd stop and avoid launching any GPS application. This makes sure the frameworkd shuts down the GPS chip and lays off it. Then I can send in UBX packets into /dev/ttySAC1 and tail -f /dev/ttySAC1 without problems. Citando KaZeR ka...@altern.org: Hello list, I also noticed last time i tried that i wasn't able to filter GPLL, GPGSA and friends using the ubxgen script from the wiki. Is it related? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-SHR--ogpsd-fso-gpsd%3A-can%27t-get-4Hz-sample-rate-tp2884445p2888680.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: Please include the whole log as an error with frameworkd can occur long before the problem manifests itself. You can sanitize phone numbers from it but I would prefer that no other editing is done. angus: i have a paroli.log and frameworkd.log from just such a situation last night (SMS came in, phone could not suspend). how would you like me to get them to you (post-sanitisation)? is there a trac open they should be appended to? -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Battery meter not reading battery life correctly
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 16:46, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone noticed with the 05/02/2009 release of SHR-Testing that the battery meter is not reading correctly? While taking a hike and doing some OSM tracking I received a Low battery warning, thinking it was real I put an early stop to it so I could get it charging before the battery dies but a minute after I received that warning the battery life jumped back up to 92% and it was saying I had over 4 hours left. Has this happened to anyone before, and if so is it fixed in Unstable or does it need reported? Sometimes that happens when driver fails to get battery details. Tap on battery, and you will see, if measure is correct ;) But that happens to me really rare... and i'm using FR as my daily phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [fso/openmoko-panel-plugin] headset button?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 14.05.2009 um 14:49 schrieb arne anka: while playing around with the wired headset, i noticed, that apparently the plug in of the headset does not cause the gsmheadset.state to be loaded. further investigation turned up that openmoko-panel-plugin in he category buttons offers to handle the headset -- looks good, but ... there's nothing to be configured -- just [] handle headset. well, what does handle mean? shouldn't there be something to be done? i for one would like to switch alsa states upon plugin / oout. i thought, frameworkd is responsible for handling .state-files .. but try to use current version of o-p-p availble at project-page (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/panel-plugin/) i just extended the available config-options for handling of headset removal/insertion cheers, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: mor...@morlac.de Jabber: mor...@skavaer.homelinux.org - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFKDDSsr81gVylJyzERAvSeAKDmJIdilaJbFxK+VvD6XPNA/zwSSACfRQGJ AeykGDuTAn44l9MlxdYX/4A= =dFph -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
Sean holmes wrote: neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work. It's not a bug of neovento, it's a bug of the application. When it's python you could change it by yourself maybe. Or you'll find an alternative application which works better and then tell me :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/%28Neovento%29-gprs-ui-bug-tp2890117p2892762.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [fso/openmoko-panel-plugin] headset button?
i thought, frameworkd is responsible for handling .state-files .. that was my understanding, too :-) nevertheless, the question remains, what is opp's handling of the headset button supposed to do? but try to use current version of o-p-p availble at project-page (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/panel-plugin/) i just extended the available config-options for handling of headset removal/insertion will do. any debs available? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call
On May 14, 2009 08:58:57 am Tom Yates wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: Please include the whole log as an error with frameworkd can occur long before the problem manifests itself. You can sanitize phone numbers from it but I would prefer that no other editing is done. angus: i have a paroli.log and frameworkd.log from just such a situation last night (SMS came in, phone could not suspend). how would you like me to get them to you (post-sanitisation)? is there a trac open they should be appended to? Hi Tom You can attach it here . https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2284 Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [fso/openmoko-panel-plugin] headset button?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 14.05.2009 um 17:18 schrieb arne anka: i thought, frameworkd is responsible for handling .state-files .. that was my understanding, too :-) nevertheless, the question remains, what is opp's handling of the headset button supposed to do? in older versions there was no real handling of headset insertion/ removal the config-tab was just a placeholder for future requirements .. i just had no idea what could be done there until today but try to use current version of o-p-p availble at project-page (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/panel-plugin/) i just extended the available config-options for handling of headset removal/insertion will do. any debs available? not yet as in the past sebastian was creating these .. i think i should have a look at howot create .debs by myself but this will not happen before 20090526 as i am working on an exam until then cheers, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: mor...@morlac.de Jabber: mor...@skavaer.homelinux.org - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFKDDjcr81gVylJyzERAutbAKDiyA6D7Q8ITb6NnQn07YrYoA7xTwCeMya7 ETSc/YBXgHHGR5GSGZRZfKY= =KqvY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] Real slowdown in frameworkd, resulting no ringtones
Which ringtone are you using ? The default one: phone-ringing.ogg It is the same with as the one week old image[1]. I do not think it has any relation with the ringtone. The calling screen appears after five(!) vibration. Best regards, Laszlo [1]: fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.tar.gz from 20090507 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [fso/openmoko-panel-plugin] headset button?
not yet as in the past sebastian was creating these .. i think i should have a look at howot create .debs by myself but this will not happen before 20090526 as i am working on an exam until then well, whatever you do to create the tarballs, the debian/ structure is there already. $ fakeroot debian/rules binary created a deb -- although as openmoko-panel-plugin_0.5-1_all.deb seems, the debian/changelog is not updated, what is the current version? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
After resume - noise screen of death!!
Hi my freerunner has a problem it freezes with a noise screen of death. I've checked Om2009, QT Extended improved and SHR. With all the same the phone falling in sleep and on resume noise screen. Could someone give me a hint? I've never had this problem with Om2007.2 or QTextended. With 2008.8 I had this problems too. I think it's a kernel problem best regards Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
Hi, yes i think too, it's a kernel problem. i try to use om2009 but with the kernel, i became the wosd when i wake up the device from the suspend. i used the 2.6.28kernel so i try the 2.6.29 kernel from shr. suspend works nice with this kernel. but i have an error with wifi and no sound. so its not the right kernel for om2009 :/ greets stefan Alexander Syring wrote: Hi my freerunner has a problem it freezes with a noise screen of death. I've checked Om2009, QT Extended improved and SHR. With all the same the phone falling in sleep and on resume noise screen. Could someone give me a hint? I've never had this problem with Om2007.2 or QTextended. With 2008.8 I had this problems too. I think it's a kernel problem best regards Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call
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Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
shr-testing 20090502: enlightenment was unable to run the application enscribi the application failed to start Zinnia and Zinnia-tomoe-zh installed On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote: Fantastic news... let me know if there's anything I can do! Russ 2009/5/13 Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Russell Hay russe...@ysmail.net wrote: Hi Olof, any chance of having english support added to this? Otherwise (as a non-hacker) can I contribute anything that'd support you in adding english support? Hi, There's nothing stopping adding english support. I thought about adding it myself. The only thing you need is stroke data for all the letters, which are not so many for English. Then it would be possible to make a new theme for English input as well (the letters are not as large and complicated as for Japanese and Chinese, so you can get away with a smaller drawing area for each letter). So what's needed is stroke data for all the letters. I'm currently experimenting with writing a stroke editor so it's easy to add new characters. When this is done it would be quite simple to add new characters. You'd just have to draw all the letters. I'm currently on a business trip and wan't be able to work in it for now, but when it's ready I'll post info about here on the mailing list. At best, I'd say a few weeks from now, but that depends on how much free time I get. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR] ogpsd/fso-gpsd: can't get 4Hz sample rate
Jozef Siska wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 04:58:20PM +0100, Vasco Névoa wrote: I've tried configuring (via frameworkd's om.py) the chip with a 3000ms period between samples, and sure enough gpspipe is outputting only one set of messages per every 3 seconds - so this proves my CFG-RATE message is correctly delivered. However, I also see that the gpspipe output is... chaotic. Although the NMEA timestamps are always correct (they skip 3 seconds), sometimes the messages are delayed and then delivered in batches. For example, there is nothing for 6 seconds, and both messages are delivered together. If I set the period to 5.25 seconds, I can see that all the timestamps coming out of gpspipe end with .00, which is obviously wrong. Many of the sentences are repeated, like the SW couldn't wait for the next UBX data block and just repeated the last data block. Who is doing this sample mangling? fso-gpsd creates new (fake) NMEA messages from data that it gets throug DBUS from frameworkd... My gues is that frameworkd would not send the data more often that once per second. Ouch. Having the framework _managing_ the gps (turn on/off, configure,...) is fine. But why regenerate the data, what is wrong with pass-through? The more cpu work, the more delays. And the gps may very well be used for real-time purposes. And of course, 100% of the cpu is not available, so it is hard to know how much extra work is too much. You could try uninstalling fso-gpsd, installing normal gpsd and somehow persuading frameworkd to not touch the gps (don't konw if setting the GPS to off is enough...) And the ideal fix would be framework support, so you just tell it you want 4HZ updates and from then on you get that. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Testing] Battery meter not reading battery life correctly
Adam Jimerson wrote: Has anyone noticed with the 05/02/2009 release of SHR-Testing that the battery meter is not reading correctly? While taking a hike and doing some OSM tracking I received a Low battery warning, thinking it was real I put an early stop to it so I could get it charging before the battery dies but a minute after I received that warning the battery life jumped back up to 92% and it was saying I had over 4 hours left. Has this happened to anyone before, and if so is it fixed in Unstable or does it need reported? There has always been trouble with battery readings. Illume has a battery warning of its own, which hangs around for a long time. I have often found that warning combined with an ok battery reading. Illume read the battery at a bad moment, and put up its annoying little box. Any battery-reading gadget will see the same problem, but it is not as noticeable without a dialog box. the place to fix this is probably the kernel driver that reports these oddities. There could be an error there. Or perhaps the hardware is flaky and occationally misreports status. In that case, the kernel driver should reject an abrubt drop in voltage unless it persists. I.e. report the last good value for a while until it can be sure that a drop isn't just a fluke. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
Sorry about my first post, it was early and I was in a rush. My APN is www.voicestream.com on T-mobile in Oregon. thanks Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR] ogpsd/fso-gpsd: can't get 4Hz sample rate
Citando Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: Ouch. Having the framework _managing_ the gps (turn on/off, configure,...) is fine. But why regenerate the data, what is wrong with pass-through? The more cpu work, the more delays. And the gps may very well be used for real-time purposes. And of course, 100% of the cpu is not available, so it is hard to know how much extra work is too much. You could try uninstalling fso-gpsd, installing normal gpsd and somehow persuading frameworkd to not touch the gps (don't konw if setting the GPS to off is enough...) And the ideal fix would be framework support, so you just tell it you want 4HZ updates and from then on you get that. Helge, you're quite right, but gpspipe is a legacy application, and the preferred way is to sit on the DBUS interface for signals. I'm just using gpspipe because I already had a nice script to import data in NMEA format. ;) I suppose the FSO people will strongly suggest that users stick to the DBUS instead of consuming NMEA text, and that's what makes sense (even according to your own optimization rationale). So, asap, I'm going to code my app in python to use DBUS and avoid all this NMEA nonsense from the start. But the problem remains: ogpsd does not accept more than one position change per second and so I opened the ticket. http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/431 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, Here's the latest version of intone. Main changes :- * Settings page to set bass, treble, ui size and playlist looping * Album art view toggle. Save the album art image as 'cover.jpg' in the songs directory. * prevent suspend during playing * pause on incoming call Needs the newer e libraries. Tested on SHR-unstable and openmoko unstable. Deb package will follow soon. Comments / feedback welcome. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2894629/intone_0.45_arm.ipk intone_0.45_arm.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.45-beta%29-Elementary-mplayer-frontend---updated-14-May-tp2587826p2894629.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Great job, CC. This is my dream player! Thanks a lot! 2009/5/14 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com Hi, Here's the latest version of intone. Main changes :- * Settings page to set bass, treble, ui size and playlist looping * Album art view toggle. Save the album art image as 'cover.jpg' in the songs directory. * prevent suspend during playing * pause on incoming call Needs the newer e libraries. Tested on SHR-unstable and openmoko unstable. Deb package will follow soon. Comments / feedback welcome. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2894629/intone_0.45_arm.ipk intone_0.45_arm.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.45-beta%29-Elementary-mplayer-frontend---updated-14-May-tp2587826p2894629.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, Aargh!!! I Forgot to modify the state table in the database. Will post an updated package tomorrow. Till then, if you don't have complicated playlists, do the following :- 1. ssh to the FR 2. cd /home/root/.intone 3. delete intone_songs.db 4. exit Start intone - it will create a new database. Add files again and you're ready to go. Without this - you might end up losing data from your db. And, probably, wont be able to change the ui size and playlist looping. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.45-beta%29-Elementary-mplayer-frontend---updated-14-May-tp2587826p2895009.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: You can attach it here . https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2284 Done. ditto. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [fso/openmoko-panel-plugin] headset button?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 14.05.2009 um 17:41 schrieb arne anka: not yet as in the past sebastian was creating these .. i think i should have a look at howot create .debs by myself but this will not happen before 20090526 as i am working on an exam until then well, whatever you do to create the tarballs, the debian/ structure is there already. $ fakeroot debian/rules binary created a deb -- although as openmoko-panel-plugin_0.5-1_all.deb seems, the debian/changelog is not updated, what is the current version? i'd say 0.5-2009051417 .. but not sure ;) cheers, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: mor...@morlac.de Jabber: mor...@skavaer.homelinux.org - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFKDE1Pr81gVylJyzERAsLoAKCizXbMvmyUjjzLY/dZhn4R+Wmp4wCeP1s0 91hv+tMAJGXX7Pp7+v5t7dA= =aZFI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
Sean holmes wrote: neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work. Paul wrote: Maybe it is too narrow for you, for me it works. I can put internet.tele2.nl in it without a problem. Perhaps if you share how much space you need, that would be a pointer to the developer... Just trying to help Paul My APN is internet2.voicestream.com it's 25 spaces wide, I dont know python yet will learn as soon as i find the time/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
On May 14, 2009 09:50:08 am einstein wrote: Hi, yes i think too, it's a kernel problem. i try to use om2009 but with the kernel, i became the wosd when i wake up the device from the suspend. i used the 2.6.28kernel so i try the 2.6.29 kernel from shr. suspend works nice with this kernel. but i have an error with wifi and no sound. so its not the right kernel for om2009 :/ greets stefan The kernel in Om2009 is 2.6.29-rc2 even though the archive is named 2.6.28- stable. If you want to try a newer kernel with matching modules look here. It can be installed over the current Om2009 image http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
What you do is simple: nano /usr/bin/gprsui strg+w search for 20 change 20 to 25 or more. Ill generate a new image 5.4 with some changes including this soon I think. Sean holmes wrote: Sean holmes wrote: neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work. Paul wrote: Maybe it is too narrow for you, for me it works. I can put internet.tele2.nl in it without a problem. Perhaps if you share how much space you need, that would be a pointer to the developer... Just trying to help Paul My APN is internet2.voicestream.com it's 25 spaces wide, I dont know python yet will learn as soon as i find the time/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/%28Neovento%29-gprs-ui-bug-tp2890117p2898167.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
Angus Ainslie wrote: On May 14, 2009 09:50:08 am einstein wrote: Hi, yes i think too, it's a kernel problem. i try to use om2009 but with the kernel, i became the wosd when i wake up the device from the suspend. i used the 2.6.28kernel so i try the 2.6.29 kernel from shr. suspend works nice with this kernel. but i have an error with wifi and no sound. so its not the right kernel for om2009 :/ greets stefan The kernel in Om2009 is 2.6.29-rc2 even though the archive is named 2.6.28- stable. If you want to try a newer kernel with matching modules look here. It can be installed over the current Om2009 image http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ with this kernel suspend works good. but i have some sound problems and wifi problems. if i make a call, i don't here anything, but the other side here my. i don't here ring ring or anything else... when paroli starts i became a error message can't init service Wifi: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:MethodGetPower with signature on interfaces org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl don't exist ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 21:24, einstein mailingl...@freeyourphone.de wrote: with this kernel suspend works good. but i have some sound problems and wifi problems. if i make a call, i don't here anything, but the other side here my. i don't here ring ring or anything else... when paroli starts i became a error message can't init service Wifi: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:MethodGetPower with signature on interfaces org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl don't exist Of course you have installed proper modules, am I right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[all] Python Image Library (PIL)
Is there python2.6 image module available somewhere as ipk? The python-image module doesn't contain the actually Image (import Image). I am currently trying to extract PIL from debian distro but installable ipk would be much better anyways... http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ doesn't seem to find anything for me today... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 21:24, einstein mailingl...@freeyourphone.de wrote: with this kernel suspend works good. but i have some sound problems and wifi problems. if i make a call, i don't here anything, but the other side here my. i don't here ring ring or anything else... when paroli starts i became a error message can't init service Wifi: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:MethodGetPower with signature on interfaces org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl don't exist Of course you have installed proper modules, am I right? i don't have installed any modules. i have to? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
einstein wrote: Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 21:24, einstein mailingl...@freeyourphone.de wrote: with this kernel suspend works good. but i have some sound problems and wifi problems. if i make a call, i don't here anything, but the other side here my. i don't here ring ring or anything else... when paroli starts i became a error message can't init service Wifi: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:MethodGetPower with signature on interfaces org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl don't exist Of course you have installed proper modules, am I right? i don't have installed any modules. i have to? If you update the kernel you also have to update the kernel modules within /lib/modules. Without the corresponding modules the kernel will not work the way it is supposed to. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] Real slowdown in frameworkd, resulting no ringtones
Now I only get ringtones if the other part hang up before I get the paroli call screen. In that case I get ringtone for about 2-3 sec. (but the phone calling is already ended) Angus: Ok. I spended the whole day on this bug. Finally found it, and could identify the file, which broke it. (/etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/rules.yaml), and the git commit too: b0b88060cd5e3dd605fad3c5115aebeaff824467 http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=blobdiff;f=data/rules.yaml;h=176ceb850a151d39760ee904db24d85638082b53;hp=5467aa1e36fbf0fd6a349e9dcec0d1af1d33acf7;hb=b0b88060cd5e3dd605fad3c5115aebeaff824467;hpb=5995a56b50a34856c14931628c3946691728411c Mirko says maybe the rules are fine, just the implementation not. Either way, this is the root cause. Feel free to fix FSO or revert this commit;-P Best regards, Khiraly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
Fox Mulder wrote: einstein wrote: Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 21:24, einstein mailingl...@freeyourphone.de wrote: with this kernel suspend works good. but i have some sound problems and wifi problems. if i make a call, i don't here anything, but the other side here my. i don't here ring ring or anything else... when paroli starts i became a error message can't init service Wifi: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:MethodGetPower with signature on interfaces org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl don't exist Of course you have installed proper modules, am I right? i don't have installed any modules. i have to? If you update the kernel you also have to update the kernel modules within /lib/modules. Without the corresponding modules the kernel will not work the way it is supposed to. Ciao, Rainer Hi, thank you. the problem was in front of the keyboard ;) now it runs nice. __ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
On May 14, 2009 01:38:25 pm einstein wrote: Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 21:24, einstein mailingl...@freeyourphone.de wrote: with this kernel suspend works good. but i have some sound problems and wifi problems. if i make a call, i don't here anything, but the other side here my. i don't here ring ring or anything else... when paroli starts i became a error message can't init service Wifi: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:MethodGetPower with signature on interfaces org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl don't exist Of course you have installed proper modules, am I right? i don't have installed any modules. i have to? The modules tarball is in the same directory as the kernel. If you use a matching kernel and image there is no problem. But when you cherry-pick a kernel from a different distro you must also pickup the modules. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debuzzing in Portugal?
Guys, we're few (but good), can we get some highly skilled solder artisan to help with the debuzzing for our phones? The only way my GTA02v5 is loud enough to be called normal does carry along a huge buzz... Rui -- Fnord. Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 61st day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host
Works with Qi. You just have to know what's going on and then it's easy. That information should have been distributed a few months ago and that way that everyone gets it who uses Qi. At the fyp forums nobody seemed to know. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2903754.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:35 PM, reznor schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote: Works with Qi. You just have to know what's going on and then it's easy. That information should have been distributed a few months ago and that way that everyone gets it who uses Qi. At the fyp forums nobody seemed to know. Hello. Check this: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005384.html Nelson.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host
22. April, that's only 3-4 weeks ago, a bit late. Some people just stopped using Qi because of that months ago and lost interest also, just like me. But finally the message arrives. -.- Nelson Castillo-2 wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:35 PM, reznor schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote: Works with Qi. You just have to know what's going on and then it's easy. That information should have been distributed a few months ago and that way that everyone gets it who uses Qi. At the fyp forums nobody seemed to know. Hello. Check this: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005384.html Nelson.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2904213.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-testing] sim not recognised
hi, i finally got a new sim today after my previous one died a while back. i'm using shr-testing, put the card in and booted up. nothing. i ran settings and turned on the gsm antenna. still nothing. so, i went back to settings, and the gsm modem had been turned off. re-boot, still nothing. now when i run settings, i get an error about ophonekitd not running. what's happening, is there anything i can do to further debug things? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] sim not recognised
do you have another phone you can test the sim on? perhaps a friends phone. could simply just be bad On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: hi, i finally got a new sim today after my previous one died a while back. i'm using shr-testing, put the card in and booted up. nothing. i ran settings and turned on the gsm antenna. still nothing. so, i went back to settings, and the gsm modem had been turned off. re-boot, still nothing. now when i run settings, i get an error about ophonekitd not running. what's happening, is there anything i can do to further debug things? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:00 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: shr-testing 20090502: enlightenment was unable to run the application enscribi the application failed to start Zinnia and Zinnia-tomoe-zh installed Could you try to run it from the command line? There might be some relevant error message there. Open up the terminal, run enscribi and post any output here. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
yop, error loading shared libraries: libecore_evas.so.0 ill look for an installer for that and try again later tonight. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:00 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: shr-testing 20090502: enlightenment was unable to run the application enscribi the application failed to start Zinnia and Zinnia-tomoe-zh installed Could you try to run it from the command line? There might be some relevant error message there. Open up the terminal, run enscribi and post any output here. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] sim not recognised
2009/5/15 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com: do you have another phone you can test the sim on? perhaps a friends phone. could simply just be bad yeah, it works fine in my old panasonic - it can register and get text messages ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] sim not recognised
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:37:17AM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: what's happening, is there anything i can do to further debug things? GSM firmware revision? Have you flashed the moko11 version yet? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] sim not recognised
2009/5/15 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:37:17AM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: what's happening, is there anything i can do to further debug things? GSM firmware revision? Have you flashed the moko11 version yet? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing yeah, i thought about that. i was hoping to avoid it - more potential for a fubar than i like. the phone worked fine under om2008.12, the problem's only surfaced since i got shr, so i'm fairly sure the firmware update wouldn't fix anything ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2.6.28+ kernel] usb host/device mode switcher
2009/5/15 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com: I should update mine to work: http://www.opkg.org/package_40.html But if you can use vim you can opkg install it then edit /usr/bin/usb.sh as per the instructions on the opkg.org page. ah, excellent, thanks. i missed those instructions ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Nice work c_c! I like the way the interface is developing, simple and clean. I have a couple suggestions, if I may: 1) A Random option to complement the new Loop The rational for this is obvious I think. 2) Having the back button (|) act as follows: if t 0 ) Reset first to the beginning of the track if t == 0 ) Skip to the previous song This is from experiencing how other media players operate, and also from the annoyance of being interrupted and missing part of a song, and having to use the slider to scroll back to the start. Again, great work! I use it all the time. Kind regards, Toaster` signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
so after searching for a bit i am failing to find a link for libecore_evas.so.0 as an ipk. closest mention is this: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2587826i60 but i find no link. any ideas out there? On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: yop, error loading shared libraries: libecore_evas.so.0 ill look for an installer for that and try again later tonight. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Olof Sjobergh olo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:00 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: shr-testing 20090502: enlightenment was unable to run the application enscribi the application failed to start Zinnia and Zinnia-tomoe-zh installed Could you try to run it from the command line? There might be some relevant error message there. Open up the terminal, run enscribi and post any output here. Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First release of Enscribi - handwriting recognition input method
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:44 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: so after searching for a bit i am failing to find a link for libecore_evas.so.0 as an ipk. closest mention is this: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2587826i60 but i find no link. any ideas out there? I think it should be the package named ecore-evas. I'm on a business trip, so I don't have access to my freerunner and can't confirm this, but now that I think about it the efl libraries changed version recently. So I think Enscribi has to be recompiled for this version. I'll take a look at it and will put together a new package when I get home (will probably have time sometime early next week). Regards, Olof ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-testing] navit not loading
navit will not start. shr-testing 20090502, application execution error. when run from terminal i get the following: $ navit Enabling low-mem workaround... navit:vehicle_new:invalid type 'gpsd' navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'flags_forward_mask' with value '0x402' navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'flags_reverse_mask' with value '0x401' navit:speech_new:wrong type 'cmdline' navit:navit_init:no gui navit:main:Using '/home/root/.navit/navit.xml' navit:main:No instance has been created, exiting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:45 PM, reznor schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote: What you do is simple: nano /usr/bin/gprsui strg+w search for 20 change 20 to 25 or more. Ill generate a new image 5.4 with some changes including this soon I think. Yes Please. While you are doing that, would you make some comments showing how we can put it together from Source? I have hopes of writing some documentation for it, and to install such parts of it as are suitable onto my GTA01. If you can't do it all at once, any comments about things we can play with such as the above, are very welcome. Thank you, clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-testing] sim not recognised
Am Freitag 15 Mai 2009 02:54:06 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/5/15 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:37:17AM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: what's happening, is there anything i can do to further debug things? GSM firmware revision? Have you flashed the moko11 version yet? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing yeah, i thought about that. i was hoping to avoid it - more potential for a fubar than i like. It is much less frightening than I too considered it to be... And has interesting fixes too. the phone worked fine under om2008.12, the problem's only surfaced since i got shr, so i'm fairly sure the firmware update wouldn't fix anything Sorry, but... didn't you say it came with the new SIM card? One possibility might be a not correctly inserted SIM... Or an incompatible SIM. To find out what's going on... maybe setting loglevel = DEBUG in /etc/frameworkd.conf can give some hint? The corresponding log is in /var/log/frameworkd.log then. Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
