Re: [ALL] will the owner of the stopwatch application please report to the front desk

2009-11-08 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Christof Musik chris...@senfdax.de wrote:
 Hi Jeremy,

 I wrote this application. How can I help you?

 Kind regards,
 Christof

i just have some suggestions / requests for it.
mind if i reply off list?

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Re: [ALL] will the owner of the stopwatch application please report to the front desk

2009-11-08 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:21 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Christof Musik chris...@senfdax.de wrote:
 Hi Jeremy,

 I wrote this application. How can I help you?

 Kind regards,
 Christof

 i just have some suggestions / requests for it.
 mind if i reply off list?

actually before i do do that, is there anyway to alter the time
readout for the countdown to display as 24 hour clock?

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Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-08 Thread Matthias Huber


  
  
in my oppinion, it is not necessary, because one has all needed 
information already in

-- man XSizeHints
if a window says, for exampe 800x600, and says maybe in the aspect 
ratios 4:3, the rotation preference is quite clear, i think.



800x600 doesn;'t even fit. its a minimum size. it's not sane to use such a
property as this doesn't tell you the original rotation - just a size. you are
overloading a property here that isn't meant for this information. ther's also
a window aspect ratio property - again, this isn't rotation. a wm may interpret
this by scrolling the window around, not rotating. or just make the window
smaller if it likes it or not (eg what e and matchbox do for example).
  


can you give us a hint where this (rotation) property can be found ?
perhaps hint on manual page ?

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AW: 26c3

2009-11-08 Thread hab keen oh ne
I attended the workshop last time and my impression was, that people really 
liked it.
It was on Hackable1 I think and surely not too advanced...
What is planned till now for this year's congress?
Regards,
Martin Puffe.





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hey,

On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 08:30:14PM +0100, Frederik Sdun wrote:
 we try to get a table on the Chaos Communcations Congress [1].
 
 The CCC is one of the biggest hacker congresses in europe and has a lot
 of interesting talks and workshops and i think everone of you knows this
 nice event. It takes place from December 27th to 30th 2009 in Berlin.
 
 Current attendees:
 
 David leviathan Lanzend?rfer
 Thomas nezza-_- Roth
 Frederik playya Sdun
 
 Anyone else interested to be there and wants to have a plce on the table?

Last year we organised such a corner and Khorben gave a workshop one
evening in the workshop room, that was very well received.

It seems the workshop brought in the most people and you could organise
one every evening, it's better to have people play a bit, go away and 
come back the next day with new questions instead of forcing them to stay
for 5 hours

If you want, you can get a few tables in the hardware hacking corner
the we are planning for hackable devices (mostly soldering and 3D printing,
but plenty of room for Openmoko and friends)

Wim.

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Re: Symptoms of failed #1024 fix

2009-11-08 Thread Jens Seidel
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 08:54:50PM +0100, Jens Seidel wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 05:57:28PM +0100, Christophe M wrote:
   /var/log/frameworkd.log:
  
   2009.11.01 17:25:06.733 ogsmd.modem.abstract ERRORcould not open
   channel MISC, retrying in 2 seconds
 
   I just want to confirm that
   these symptoms mean that the soldering was not properly done so that no
   capacitor is used instead of the 10uF or 22uF one. I will ask the engineer
   who  performed this task for me to do it again to get a proper phone.
 
 I get no prompt for the SIM pin which worked in the past and also mickeyterm
 exits with a DBus exception before I can enter a single command. As the
 engineer told me he isn't sure about the soldering I assumed it wasn't done
 well ...
 
 If it works again after the resoldering I will drop a mail.

Resoldering was performed and now all modem related problems vanished. Also
my device is now #1024 bug free :-))

Don't know about the increase of battery time as I nearly always have it
connected to USB but maybe it's time to unplug it ...

Jens

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Re: [ALL] will the owner of the stopwatch application please report to the front desk

2009-11-08 Thread Christof Musik
Hi

 i just have some suggestions / requests for it.
 mind if i reply off list?

Just send me an email.

 actually before i do do that, is there anyway to alter the time
 readout for the countdown to display as 24 hour clock?

Do you mean something like 1d 23h 3min 4sec to the set day?

Kind regards,
Christof


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Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-08 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag, den 08.11.2009, 14:39 +1100 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
 so to me - it makes perfect sense for such a desired state to be put into the 
 x
 domain entirely as the property is related directly to the display/screen. gsm
 makes no sense being properties/events of x11. neither does wifi, or bt 
 but
 brightness of screen, current abient lighting sensor data, etc. makes
 sense. as such x also covers input devices (kbd, mouse), thus anything you can
 deem to be an input device (touchscreen, buttons on the device, accelerometrs
 etc.) makes sense to put via x11, not dbus. its within the logical domain for
 its functionality.

In the light of more versatile use I prefer this to be via dbus, but I'd
absolutely welcome an fsodeviced plugin that sets an atom on the root
window.

:M:



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OMGTA03 aka. 3D7K (call for preview)

2009-11-08 Thread David Lanzendörfer
Hiho.
Ive seen, that there is already support for the OM-GTA03 in FSO/SHR.
But I don't have any idea how it will look like.
Are there some previews? Design sheets? Anything.
I'm nearly dieing from curiousity.
Plz give me some preview, how it will look like.
Will it have a keyboard or just touchscreen like my NeoFreerunner?

greatings leviathan


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Re: OMGTA03 aka. 3D7K (call for preview)

2009-11-08 Thread Lars Hennig
Am Sonntag 08 November 2009 schrieb David Lanzendörfer:
 Plz give me some preview, how it will look like.

There won't be a GTA03, since Openmoko did stop the development and brought 
the WikiReader instead. There is a plan for further development driven by the 
community with the GTA02-core project. See 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gta02-core

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 Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology:
   There's always one more bug.

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Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-08 Thread Dave Ball
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:37:07 + Dave Ball openm...@underhand.org said:
   
 Is there a quick-start guide for writing an e module, maybe some simple 
 code / example?
 

 http://www.rasterman.com/files/logo-0.0.1.tar.gz
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abNsVyYTSkU
   

Heh - Thanks!  That's pretty comprehensive and cool - now if only 
youtube would let me step frame-by-frame!  :-)

Dave

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Re: OMGTA03 aka. 3D7K (call for preview)

2009-11-08 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
On Sunday 08 November 2009 12:57:17 David Lanzendörfer wrote:
 Hiho.
 Ive seen, that there is already support for the OM-GTA03 in FSO/SHR.
 But I don't have any idea how it will look like.
 Are there some previews? Design sheets? Anything.
 I'm nearly dieing from curiousity.
 Plz give me some preview, how it will look like.
 Will it have a keyboard or just touchscreen like my NeoFreerunner?
 
 greatings leviathan
 

  In addition to what Lars Hennig said, i'd just like to point out that using 
OMG-TA03 would be a better place for the dash... ;)

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Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:48:23 +0100 Matthias Huber
matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de said:

 


  in my oppinion, it is not necessary, because one has all needed 
  information already in
  -- man XSizeHints
  if a window says, for exampe 800x600, and says maybe in the aspect 
  ratios 4:3, the rotation preference is quite clear, i think.
  
 
  800x600 doesn;'t even fit. its a minimum size. it's not sane to use such a
  property as this doesn't tell you the original rotation - just a size. you
  are overloading a property here that isn't meant for this information.
  ther's also a window aspect ratio property - again, this isn't rotation. a
  wm may interpret this by scrolling the window around, not rotating. or just
  make the window smaller if it likes it or not (eg what e and matchbox do
  for example). 
 
 can you give us a hint where this (rotation) property can be found ?
 perhaps hint on manual page ?

see my other mails.

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Re: Ideal screen rotation

2009-11-08 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 11/8/09, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
 1. omnewroatte ONLY listens to accelerometers and talks to the wm (via any
 mechanism you like) telling it what position the phone is in. that is all it
 does. nothing else. all other decisions are made by the wm base on as you
 said
 above, the properties of the window - which app is currently active (change
 apps between one that wants to be portrait wants to be landscape, the wm has
 to
 flip orientation when you flip apps. etc. for example - e already has a
 config
 dialog for changing screen resoltion and rotation. it already handles this
 stuff - it's missing the logic of reading some as-yet-uninvented property
 from
 a window and 2. handling that property with respect to rotation. any wm can
 do
 this. this is definitely a job that belongs in properties of a window and
 the
 wm to read them, follow their changes, and do the right thing)

Then there is no need for omnewrotate, as fsodeviced is already doing
exactly that via dbus.

-- 
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
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Re: 26c3

2009-11-08 Thread Frederik Sdun
* hab keen oh ne baba_mel...@yahoo.de [08.11.2009 10:29]:
I attended the workshop last time and my impression was, that people
really liked it.
It was on Hackable1 I think and surely not too advanced...
What is planned till now for this year's congress?
Regards,
Martin Puffe.
 
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Gesendet: Samstag, den 7. November 2009, 1:06:17 Uhr
Betreff: Re: 26c3
 
hey,
 
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 08:30:14PM +0100, Frederik Sdun wrote:
 we try to get a table on the Chaos Communcations Congress [1].

 The CCC is one of the biggest hacker congresses in europe and has a lot
 of interesting talks and workshops and i think everone of you knows this
 nice event. It takes place from December 27th to 30th 2009 in Berlin.

 Current attendees:

 David leviathan Lanzend?rfer
 Thomas nezza-_- Roth
 Frederik playya Sdun

 Anyone else interested to be there and wants to have a plce on the
table?
 
Last year we organised such a corner and Khorben gave a workshop one
evening in the workshop room, that was very well received.
 
It seems the workshop brought in the most people and you could organise
one every evening, it's better to have people play a bit, go away and
come back the next day with new questions instead of forcing them to stay
for 5 hours
 
If you want, you can get a few tables in the hardware hacking corner
the we are planning for hackable devices (mostly soldering and 3D
printing,
but plenty of room for Openmoko and friends)
 
Wim.
 
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Hi,

@wim Thanks for your invitation. We accept your invitation and take aseat in 
your corner.

I  don't have a concrete project yet. But i think it's either a vala
wrapper for efl or integrating accelges into FSO [1]. 
David will continue his SHR port for HTC dream and maybe flashes some
devices.
Thomas: I don't know

There's no workshop planned yet. Anything you want to see? Maybe we can
organize it.

Regards, Frederik

[1] http://accelges.googlecode.com/
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Re: Looking for a convenient tool

2009-11-08 Thread Patrick Beck
Hi,

i have written such a tool months ago, but i haven't published it yet.
So i have written a small article on my wiki now. Perhaps anybody like
it ;)

http://wiki.yourse.de/doku.php?id=python:emenu

with kind regards

Patrick

Am Freitag, den 06.11.2009, 22:21 +0100 schrieb ri...@happyleptic.org:
 Hello !
 
 I'm looking for a program that, given a set of shell commands, display
 a gtk window with a button that runs each command.
 I have looked at zenity but it apparently lacks the button widgets.
 
 Do you know of something similar, or should I write it myself ?
 
 I think something like that would be very usefull for writing usefull
 finger controlable apps for the freerunner.
 
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Openmoko in the press + Hiwi job offer Karlsruhe

2009-11-08 Thread Michael Tansella
Hi together,

Matthias Breuel and me did a research project with the openmoko at the KIT 
(Karlsruhe Institute of Technology) in Germany.  We developed a Indoor 
navigation system with the Freerunner in C++/Qt. You can see a picture from 
the BNN newspaper here:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/44512...@n08/4087173946/ 
No we are doing different stuff at our diploma 
thesis so we don't have the time to continue. If someone wants to continue and 
lives in Karlsruhe or at best studies there can get a 'Hiwi' Job. It's mainly 
no 
difficult algorithms but modify the code for new approaches. If someone is 
interested, feel free to contact me offlist.
Additionally Matthias and me want to thank the great support we received by 
the Openmoko community. Special thanks go to Andy(-tracking) who solved some 
Acc Kernel troubles over night and Mickey+ (freesmartphone team) whose dbus 
services did the low level programming for us.

Greets from Germany
Michael Tansella
Matthias Breuel

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[opimd] Call from opimd-contacts isn't working

2009-11-08 Thread Peter Nijs
Hello,

I never succeed in calling someone from the opimd-contacts application. There 
is just no response. When you would expect the dailer (standard shr) to pop 
up, it doesn't. Running opimd-contacts from the commandline doesn't reveal 
much. At startup I just get:

r...@fry ~ $ opimd-contacts 
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without 
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: 
object.__init__() takes no parameters
  super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) 
  
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without 
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without 
pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
. And a bunch of them!

Nothing happens on the cli when I press the number to call from the contact. I 
use version 0.0.3+gitr133+11536ff92e44c956bb53af210fbe0ab806d8dcaf-r2 of 
opimd-utils.

Is this still normal, or should this work by now?

Depeje

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Re: This might be illegal!

2009-11-08 Thread Aditya Gandhi
I unserdtand the shortcoming, But I have sucessfully ported gmail,
google maps,pdf reader, quick office, etc apps to my phone.
Also am looking forward to solve the market problem.
I have downloaded the sdk r3, and have put market on it, but now I
cannot figure out where the new downloaded apps are being stored (I
need the exact path) on the emulator, If I figure that out I can put
almost any app on my freerunner 

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:29 PM, GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 09:29 +0530, Aditya Gandhi wrote:
 Hi people,
 Those who really wish to go by the book, don't like to break simple
 laws please stop here.
 I don't mean to be rude, but don't want people who usually don't break
 the law to get lured..



 Is there anyway in which we can use their emulator, probably hack the
 g1 emulator and reverse engineer the android market
 Slideme that is a market,has an old apache 2.0 licensed version
 I tried to compile it but needed the 1.1 SDK and my CPU had better
 things to do than compile the 1.1 SDK
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