Re: [SHR-t] navit crashes with Reiseplanner maps while searching for a town

2010-01-27 Thread arne anka
 No one ?

only this: i never really got reiseplaner maps working with navit, they  
used to crash always.
atm navit crashes with everything, both on my amd64 and the freerunner,  
but i had not time so far to investigate further.

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Tracking power leackage in my freerunner

2010-01-27 Thread rixed
I monitored power consumption all day long (from full battery to empty).
I observed that the average current consumption (from /sys/.../current_now)
is 78mA when idle. My battery, at full charge, is shown to store 1.1Ah
(according to /sys/.../charge_now), which leads to battery life of 14h which is
exactly what I observed.

So, I suspect that 78mA when idle, supposed to be in deep sleep mode with
a #1024 fixed device is far from ideal.

What value of current_now should I expect ?



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Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner

2010-01-27 Thread Fox Mulder
ri...@happyleptic.org schrieb:
 I monitored power consumption all day long (from full battery to empty).
 I observed that the average current consumption (from /sys/.../current_now)
 is 78mA when idle. My battery, at full charge, is shown to store 1.1Ah
 (according to /sys/.../charge_now), which leads to battery life of 14h which 
 is
 exactly what I observed.
 
 So, I suspect that 78mA when idle, supposed to be in deep sleep mode with
 a #1024 fixed device is far from ideal.

I thought the #1024 fix is only helping while the freerunner is
suspended. For me this fix only changed the current which was consumed
while suspended and extended my standby time by a factor of nearly 2x.

Ciao,
 Rainer

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Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner

2010-01-27 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 1/27/10, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net wrote:
 ri...@happyleptic.org schrieb:
 I monitored power consumption all day long (from full battery to empty).
 I observed that the average current consumption (from
 /sys/.../current_now)
 is 78mA when idle. My battery, at full charge, is shown to store 1.1Ah
 (according to /sys/.../charge_now), which leads to battery life of 14h
 which is
 exactly what I observed.

 So, I suspect that 78mA when idle, supposed to be in deep sleep mode with
 a #1024 fixed device is far from ideal.

 I thought the #1024 fix is only helping while the freerunner is
 suspended. For me this fix only changed the current which was consumed
 while suspended and extended my standby time by a factor of nearly 2x.

 Ciao,
  Rainer

Suspend doesn't matter, that's thing related to GSM deep sleep (so
something like GSM chipset suspend, not Freerunner CPU suspend)

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Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner

2010-01-27 Thread rixed
-[ Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:41:36PM +0100, Fox Mulder ]
 ri...@happyleptic.org schrieb:
  I monitored power consumption all day long (from full battery to empty).
  I observed that the average current consumption (from /sys/.../current_now)
  is 78mA when idle. My battery, at full charge, is shown to store 1.1Ah
  (according to /sys/.../charge_now), which leads to battery life of 14h 
  which is
  exactly what I observed.
  
  So, I suspect that 78mA when idle, supposed to be in deep sleep mode with
  a #1024 fixed device is far from ideal.
 
 I thought the #1024 fix is only helping while the freerunner is
 suspended. For me this fix only changed the current which was consumed
 while suspended and extended my standby time by a factor of nearly 2x.

So what do you have in /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now
when idle and not charging ?

Here is for instance a simple script that will log interresting values
every 30 seconds :


#!/bin/sh

log=$HOME/power.log

while true ; do
(
date +%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S
cut -d' ' -f 4,7 /proc/apm
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_now 
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now 
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/voltage_now
) | xargs echo
sleep 30
done  $log

I would be very interresting in comparing various people results.


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Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread Märta

Ok, I got a NeoFreerunner this christmas, and I got it delivered with Android
pre-installed, and ever since I got it I've been struggling to install SHR
as OS onto the internal memory, WITHOUT SUCCESS. I have very little
knowledge of programming. I just want to use the OpenMoko as my daily phone
because I think it looks good and is a funny concept, and I hope to learn
more about it with time.

BUT

The installation guides I've been following seems to be made for people with
more knowledge than me, and there are dozens of terms in the 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner
guides  and  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual manuals  that I
don't understand. So I thought I should take it from the beginning so you
can correct me where I'm doing wrong.


* HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID *

1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need:

Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu
Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a
kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem

The software can be found at the following places:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is
intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought
it was a program.
http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool NeoTool : Also not a program, just.
text?
http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my
neo, so I dont need it again?
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2
SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the Testing line instead of
Unstable, it's ok, right?
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
Kernel module : Only one file?

AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done.

This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux
computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the
NEO-tools  http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text  somewhere? 

%-|

Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I
love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw
this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help.

Thanks!

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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread Fox Mulder
Märta schrieb:
 * HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID *
 
 1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need:
 
 Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu
Lets say a computer with linux. It must not be especially Ubuntu.

 Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a
 kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem
Neo-Tools is not only a textfile instead it is a shell-script for linux
which should make the flash process more easily. But you won't need it
if you do it by hand.
U-boot is ok but you could also flash QI instead. But lets say you stay
with u-boot.

 The software can be found at the following places:
 
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is
 intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought
 it was a program.
These are just names for the different versions of ubuntu. When you do
apt-get install dfu-util you have the right version.

 http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my
 neo, so I dont need it again?
Good question. Newer versions have some bugfixes and so on but first try
i with your preinstalled version.

 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2
 SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the Testing line instead of
 Unstable, it's ok, right?
Sure it is ok but beware that shr is constantly updated so even testing
could sometimes be a bit unstable. But it is a better starting point
than the unstable version.

 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
 Kernel module : Only one file?
If you want to install shr-testing in NAND flash you need the kernel to
be flashed into the kernel partition. The corresponding modules are
already in the root filesystem which should be flashed to the rootfs
partition.

 AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done.
 
 This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux
 computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the
 NEO-tools  http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text  somewhere? 
The commands for flashing the kernel and the rootfs can be found here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util#Flashing_the_rootfs

 Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I
 love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw
 this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help.
You love your openmoko but you will throw it into garbage only because
you doesn't know how to use it?
These statements seems to contradict each other if you ask me. ;)

Ciao,
 Rainer

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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread arne anka
hej,
before everything else, it would be really helpful, if you could let us  
know which
operating system
you are using.

dfu-util is a tool. to flash certain devices, besides others the  
freerunner.
almost every linux distribution should include a package of the program.

 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is
 intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I  
 thought
 it was a program.

intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid are the names of the latest releases of  
ubuntu linux, if you don't know, what they are i suspect, the rest of the  
tutorial will not be of much help to you either.

 http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool NeoTool : Also not a program,  
 just.
 text?

basically any program is just text -- althgough it might not always be  
legible ;-)
i strongly suspect now, that you are not using linux at all.

 http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my
 neo, so I dont need it again?

not sure. iirc, the android freerunner used to have a modified u-boot.

 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2
 SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the Testing line  
 instead of Unstable, it's ok, right?

not necessarily. for a while, unstable used to be more stable than  
testing.

 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
 Kernel module : Only one file?

that's the _kernel_, and yes, it is only one file.


where does the quote below come from?

 This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux
 computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in  
 the
 NEO-tools  http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text  somewhere?

 %-|

i can't make much from the last three lines.

neotool is basically a nice frontend to dfu-util, i have no idea inhowfar  
it still works, since it dates from 2008 according to the code at the link  
above.
it should be impossible to trash your fr simply by flashing -- the  
freerunner has a read only boot environment (fallback) which can be  
altered only with a so called debug board.

what you, in fact, are supposed to flash, is the r/w boot environment (so  
you can use newer, improved or different boot software) and the area where  
the operating system lives.

so, repeating myself, let us know what os you are using before we can  
proceed.

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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread Davide Scaini
To make it easy ina straight forward:
I suggest to you to install SHR on sd card.
To do this you need:
- a microSD card
- at least one partition on that card (ext2 ext3). If you buy a musd card
just for shr it would be easier just to not messup your current musd that
has some android files on (for sure).
- download the tar.gz version of testing of shr (if you prefere that one...)
- mount on your pc the musd is easier thatn everything and extract on the
musd the tar.gz
- put the musd in your fr, then press aux button plus power button to enter
uboot menu, there with aux button you can select start from micro sd card
and press power to boot...
that's probably all you need (afair)
d

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Märta hagwall...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Ok, I got a NeoFreerunner this christmas, and I got it delivered with
 Android
 pre-installed, and ever since I got it I've been struggling to install SHR
 as OS onto the internal memory, WITHOUT SUCCESS. I have very little
 knowledge of programming. I just want to use the OpenMoko as my daily phone
 because I think it looks good and is a funny concept, and I hope to learn
 more about it with time.

 BUT

 The installation guides I've been following seems to be made for people
 with
 more knowledge than me, and there are dozens of terms in the
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner
 guides  and  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual manuals  that I
 don't understand. So I thought I should take it from the beginning so you
 can correct me where I'm doing wrong.


 * HOW TO INSTALL SHR ON A FRERUNNER WITH ANDROID *

 1) For being able to install SHR on a Neo with Android you need:

 Hardware; phone, usb-cable, a computer with Ubuntu
 Software; Dfu-util, NEO-tools, U-boot (installed on my Neo atm.), a
 kernel-module and SHR-root filesystem

 The software can be found at the following places:

 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dfu-util DFU-util : Wtf is
 intrepid, jaunty karmic, lucid? Am I supposed to understand that? I thought
 it was a program.
 http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool NeoTool : Also not a program,
 just.
 text?
 http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot U-boot : I already have it installed on my
 neo, so I dont need it again?

 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2
 SHR-root filesystem : Im taking the files from the Testing line instead
 of
 Unstable, it's ok, right?

 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
 Kernel module : Only one file?

 AND, you need to Flash the Neo before anything can be done.

 This is done by first installing the DFU-utility software on a Linux
 computer, connect the Neo and doing the AUX-startup and also typing in the
 NEO-tools  http://users.on.net/~antisol/neotool text  somewhere?

 %-|

 Ok I think I'll stop here. I really want to succeed with this, because I
 love the Openmoko, but if I cant get a simple installation right I'll throw
 this phone into the garbage. In other words, I appreciate all help.

 Thanks!

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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread Vaudano Luca
Hi,
I said that I never had Android on my Freerunner so maybe it can cause
some issue.
But normally the installation on the internal memory it's very simple.
Shortly:

1
Take the two files that you wrote in your email. They are fine:
 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2
( yes, Testing is more stable than unstable :) )
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
( yes, only one file )

2
Install DFU-utility software on a Ubuntu (I think you are using it)
with this command from
the shell:
sudo aptitude install dfu-util

3
Enter in root mode in your desktop
sudo -s

4
Connect the Neo to your computer via USB.

5
On your Neo:
Press and hold AUX button
Press the Power button until the boot menu comes up
This menu is labelled *** BOOT MENU (NOR) ***
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Menu15.jpg

6
Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell
dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin

7
When finished., always in the desktop shell
dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a rootfs -R -D full-om-gta02.jffs2
this operation takes time!

8
Finish! Now you can restart your Neo with SHR

ciao
Luca

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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut]
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 Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell
 dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
IMHO it is enough to run:
# dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin

P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and
nothing more.

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Re: [QtMoko] hwclock issue

2010-01-27 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/26 Joif fdvj...@vodafone.it:

 Hi!
 I'm using QtMoko v16b on the NAND and I have other distro on the uSD.
 My time is GMT+1 and when I have to choose the correct time on QtMoko I set
 it on the Paris time zone. But when I use another distro I see that the time
 reported is exactly GMT not GMT+1.

I don't really know about this part - but could just be that the other
distro doesn't have correct time zone set up.

 Also, some time after a reboot (and
 specially after using Debian) I see during the boot an error message about
 the impossibility to read the hardware clock and to set the time to
 01/01/1970.

Recently understood; please see here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg57473.html

 This error disappears from the boot only if I remove the
 battery.

Ah, that is interesting.  That would explain why I have stopped seeing
this problem.  (I've been trying out SHR testing, and now my RTC is
working even when I switch back to Debian.  I was struggling to
understand why that was.)

Regards,
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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread Martin Jansa
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:10:27PM +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote:
 [cut]
  6
  Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell
  dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
 IMHO it is enough to run:
 # dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
 
 P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and
 nothing more.

not always.. having more usb devices connected (IIRC my sharp pda or my
hub+bt is enough) can sometimes confuse
dfu-util enough that it says something like no dfu enabled device
detected which confuses user even more..

checking available devices with dfu-util -l and then providing -d
0x1d50:0x5119 will save now really confused user..

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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread pike
Hi

 before everything else, it would be really helpful, if you could let us  
 know which operating system you are using.

yes. if you're on a mac, things can be
slightly simpler. I use openmoko-flasher

http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%20Flasher

to flash the 2 mentioned images (jffs2 and bin)
to my neo. over usb. in the right order.

that was usually all i had to do, if i sticked
to the same bootloader. somebody correct me
if my memory is wrong.

Isn't there a similar wrapper for windows ?

$2c,
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Re: where to add cap on A5 - A6 mod

2010-01-27 Thread Bartłomiej Zimoń
Dnia 27 stycznia 2010 12:44 Bartłomiej Zimoń uz...@o2.pl napisał(a):
 Hi all!
 
 I want to add cap. to have no problems with discharged battery.
 The problem with my A5 is board a little bit different from A6
 I cant find where is C1769 (from a6 scheme) or where to add this cap.
 
 On attachment you could find added small cap it could be this what i need?
 Someone moded A5 to A6 before?
 

It is looks like i have early version of A5 this extra Cap. is c1767
someone have got photos with refubrished ones?

Bartek.


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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread Märta

Wow, many responses fast. I'm very grateful.
I will review all responses carefully and come back when I've followed your
guidelines.

Thanks alot!

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Re: [SHR-U] Stop keyboard auto-display?

2010-01-27 Thread vancel35

I recently did an update / upgrade, and I've notice that the problem is back,
but more stupid.

I removed the package again (matchbox-keyboard-im), and the package that
depended on it but provided no files (opkg files showed the package name,
but nothing in the list).  I suppose that package was simply added to create
a dependency on the other package.

The complaint I had in non-GTK apps is still there, but now it's more
severe.  Any time I close an app such as the power settings, the keyboard
has to pop up because of that click and it stays visible on the settings
page even though there are absolutely no entry fields.  In fact, almost any
time I click a Python button, the keyboard appears.

In the messages (SMS) app, if I'm going through and deleting my old
messages, the keyboard pops up every time I click Options so I have to
wait for the screen to redraw.  Then the keyboard stays there regardless of
the fact that there is nothing that allows text entry on that screen.

Why does it seem that the keyboard is being forced to be more obtrusive when
I want it to be less obtrusive?  If there were some kind of setting that I
could turn off, I'd be happy, but there's nothing.  

Maybe a lot of people like the keyboard popping up when you don't want it
(and in places where you can't even use it), but I'm not one of those.  
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Re: [debian/fso] autosuspend does not work anymore

2010-01-27 Thread vancel35

I have the opposite problem.  Mine suspends regardless of settings.

In fact, I did my upgrade a week or so ago, and at first I could turn off
the auto-suspend switch in the power settings screen, but it would still
suspend regardless.  Now it doesn't even let me slide the switch to the off
position.  I slide it, but it goes back to the on position.

If I could at least set the timeouts, I'd be happy, but I can't even set the
timeouts via the UI or directly editing the config file (frameworkd.conf). 
My values are still in the config file, but they are never used in the
system.  When I try to set them via the UI, they don't update.

1) enter power settings app
2) note value for suspend time (30 seconds, but value in frameworkd.conf is
600 seconds)
3) update time (shows updated time... 60 for example)
4) quit power settings app
5) enter power settings app
6) note value for suspend time is back to the original suspend time (30
seconds in my case, but frameworkd.conf still shows 600 seconds).



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[Hackable:1 rev5] fso.alioth gpg - apt-get update issue

2010-01-27 Thread Joif

Hi! :)
after an apt-get update on Hackable:1 rev5 I have:
W: GPG error: http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org unstable Release: The
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
available: NO_PUBKEY E2B9DE6A8E7B323B

I proceeded with:

-r...@hackable1:~# apt-get install pkg-fso-keyring
-Reading package lists... Done
-Building dependency tree... Done
-pkg-fso-keyring is already the newest version.
-You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
-The following packages have unmet dependencies:
-  aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6-4.6
-Recommends: aptitude-doc-en but it is not going to be installed
or
-aptitude-doc
-  libept0: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6-4.6
-  texlive-base: Depends: texlive-doc-base (= 2007) but it is not going to
be installed
-Recommends: dvipdfmx (= 1:20050831-1) but it is not going
to be installed
-Recommends: lmodern (= 0.93.3-1) but it is not going to be
installed
-  texlive-base-bin: Depends: libkpathsea4 (= 2007) but it is not going to
be installed
-Depends: libpoppler3 but it is not going to be
installed
-Recommends: texlive-base-bin-doc but it is not going to
be installed
-E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
specify a solution).


so I tryed with apt-get -f install but there are some packages to
remove... aptitude, tasksel...

-r...@hackable1:~# apt-get -f install
-Reading package lists... Done
-Building dependency tree... Done
-Correcting dependencies... Done
-The following extra packages will be installed:
-  libkpathsea4 libpoppler3 texlive-doc-base
-The following packages will be REMOVED:
-  aptitude libept0 tasksel tasksel-data
-The following NEW packages will be installed:
-  libkpathsea4 libpoppler3 texlive-doc-base
-0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 4 to remove and 47 not upgraded.
-Need to get 1658kB of archives.
-After this operation, 8720kB disk space will be freed.
-Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

What I have to do? Thanks!
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Re: [debian/fso] autosuspend does not work anymore

2010-01-27 Thread arne anka
 In fact, I did my upgrade a week or so ago, and at first I could turn off
 the auto-suspend switch in the power settings screen, but it would still
 suspend regardless.  Now it doesn't even let me slide the switch to the  
 off position.  I slide it, but it goes back to the on position.

you're talking about illume?

 directly editing the config file (frameworkd.conf).

when you indeed in the last week or so, you will now need/have a config  
file etc/freesmartphone/fsodeviced.conf whcih now should contain those  
settings.
mine reads there (only an extract)

[fsodevice.kernel_idle]
...
idle = 5
idle_dim = 10
idle_prelock = 6
lock = 2
suspend = 1


 My values are still in the config file, but they are never used in the
 system.  When I try to set them via the UI, they don't update.

i seem to recall a mail stating, that the settings in illume do not  
survive a restart of illume.

after reinstalling the default config files from the current  
fso-config-gta02 package (it seems virtually impossible to replace the  
files by using dpkg with any combination of parameters. i had to remove  
all files manually and use --force-confmiss) and making only the absolut  
necessary changes (log files, log level, calypso sleep, rule for power  
button), it _seems_ to work now.



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Re: Tracking power leackage in my freerunner

2010-01-27 Thread Stefan Strahl
On 27.01.2010 11:40, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote:
 What value of current_now should I expect ?

I was using
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Settings:_Power to monitor
my power consumption after doing the #1024 bug fix and enabling deep_sleep.

I measured over 4.34 days and got an average power consumption of 10 mA
and a runtime of approx. 104 h, my voltage dropped from 4.163V to 3.689V.

:) stefan

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Re: [SHR-U] Stop keyboard auto-display?

2010-01-27 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
That's bug, not intended behaviour. Just wait for fix for that.

On 1/27/10, vancel35 van...@thespazcat.com wrote:

 I recently did an update / upgrade, and I've notice that the problem is
 back,
 but more stupid.

 I removed the package again (matchbox-keyboard-im), and the package that
 depended on it but provided no files (opkg files showed the package name,
 but nothing in the list).  I suppose that package was simply added to create
 a dependency on the other package.

 The complaint I had in non-GTK apps is still there, but now it's more
 severe.  Any time I close an app such as the power settings, the keyboard
 has to pop up because of that click and it stays visible on the settings
 page even though there are absolutely no entry fields.  In fact, almost any
 time I click a Python button, the keyboard appears.

 In the messages (SMS) app, if I'm going through and deleting my old
 messages, the keyboard pops up every time I click Options so I have to
 wait for the screen to redraw.  Then the keyboard stays there regardless of
 the fact that there is nothing that allows text entry on that screen.

 Why does it seem that the keyboard is being forced to be more obtrusive when
 I want it to be less obtrusive?  If there were some kind of setting that I
 could turn off, I'd be happy, but there's nothing.

 Maybe a lot of people like the keyboard popping up when you don't want it
 (and in places where you can't even use it), but I'm not one of those.
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Re: Now someone REALLY has to help me!!

2010-01-27 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 15:38 +0100, Martin Jansa wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:10:27PM +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote:
  [cut]
   6
   Before this menu disappears, write in the desktop shell
   dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
  IMHO it is enough to run:
  # dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin
  
  P.S. Great tutorial - clear, simple and shows all one might need and
  nothing more.
 
 not always.. having more usb devices connected (IIRC my sharp pda or my
 hub+bt is enough) can sometimes confuse
 dfu-util enough that it says something like no dfu enabled device
 detected which confuses user even more..
 
 checking available devices with dfu-util -l and then providing -d
 0x1d50:0x5119 will save now really confused user..

I have a sun usb keyboard that does the same thing - dfu errors off
because it see's two devices, or gets confused and gives up.  Its
reasonably common as Dale found out when he released neotool.

Its better to leave it in for the inexperienced as it avoids confusion.

BillK



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Re: [debian] minor enhancements

2010-01-27 Thread Timo Jyrinki
(forgot to answer to this)

2010/1/12 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com:
 - In zhone, keep current SMS selected when returning from the SMS
 display screen.

 You could try to submit that to upstream [1] as well.

 I regard all of my patches as submitted upstream, by virtue of
 having been announced here.  Is there a specific further step that I
 should take to offer and flag them to git.freesmartphone.org ?

Well, I think you could discuss with FSO team if you could commit
rights to the zhone repository there. It's the most obvious/known
place anyway, and I'd think it'd bring more visibility to the patches
in your tree if they would be there.

 If no one else wants to do it, I would be happy to be responsible for
 collating further zhone development.

Exactly, and thanks a lot for your current work.

 The problem is that it's just too good-looking!

I quite agree. Despite its limitations (like to send SMS receiver has
to be in the addressbook, and the lack of proper phone log) I like it
a lot.

 Can someone from freesmartphone.org comment on possible processes here?

Maybe ask on http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/
list, or file a ticket in their trac asking commit permissions?

 Thanks, I will integrate these.  [2] looks easy, but [3] looks like it
 will need a tweak to retain the current SIM-backed contacts too.

Yes, it would probably need a bit more work.

-Timo

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