Re: [QtMoko] SIM's pin

2010-04-26 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 23 April 2010 13:01:57 Korosu Itai wrote:

 I know it detects the SIM card, because if I remove it the on screen alert
 is different. Without SIM it says SIM missing and with the card just No
 Network or something similar.

There is bug that GSM sometimes does not register and you need to Restart 
QtExtended from the POWER button menu. Maybe this is the cause?

 It's weird because I've used the SIM with this installation of QtMoko
 without this problem. Is there some way to force a pin check?

Yes, in Settings-Security

 Thanks!

No problem

Regards

Radek

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Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner

2010-04-26 Thread Shawn Thompson
I personally would 2nd the motion to try Android on Freerunner, had a great
experience up until I couldn't afford to pay the phone bill and stopped
playing around with it.

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Niels Heyvaert
nielsheyva...@hotmail.comwrote:



  Anyway, I had a disappointing and frustrating experience with my FR too
  until I discovered QtMoko because all of the distros I tried before
  QtMoko (Om 2008.x, Om 2009, SHR (misnomer++;)) were unusable.
 
  swoody: If you get an FR, please try QtMoko first. That way, if you
  decide to try other distros later, you can at least compare them to
  something usable (QtMoko).

 Since it wasn't mentioned as an alternative, you could also try Anroird on
 Freerunner 0.2 RC1.

 No distro war, just another option you could try and see if it works out
 for you.

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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread HansV

lsusb gives:
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub.

So I suppose my WiFi is dead.
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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread Ben Thompson
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:42:39PM -0700, HansV wrote:
 
 lsusb gives:
 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub.
 
 So I suppose my WiFi is dead.

No, I don't think so. My wifi is fine and I get the same output. How
are you using wifi by the way? Do you use wpa_supplicant or a GUI such
as Mokonnect or NWA?

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Re: [QtMoko] SIM's pin

2010-04-26 Thread Ben Thompson
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 08:14:06AM +0200, Radek Polak wrote:
 On Friday 23 April 2010 13:01:57 Korosu Itai wrote:
 
  I know it detects the SIM card, because if I remove it the on screen alert
  is different. Without SIM it says SIM missing and with the card just No
  Network or something similar.
 
 There is bug that GSM sometimes does not register and you need to Restart 
 QtExtended from the POWER button menu. Maybe this is the cause?

Hi Radek

This does not always work for me. Sometimes I cannot get QTMoko to register
no matter how many times I restart QTExtended.

Ben

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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread HansV

I use Mokonnect. It doesn't seem to find the WiFi hardware. The WiFi
indicator comes on in the shelf while Mokonnect is trying to power up the
device. But Mokonnect waits forever. Maybe some modules are missing in my
setup?
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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread Ben Thompson
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:26:18AM -0700, HansV wrote:
 
 I use Mokonnect. It doesn't seem to find the WiFi hardware. The WiFi
 indicator comes on in the shelf while Mokonnect is trying to power up the
 device. But Mokonnect waits forever. Maybe some modules are missing in my
 setup?

Hmm, I have never really had any luck with Mokonnect so it might be
worth trying another client such as NWA or wpa_supplicant. However, if
you think there is a problem with the hardware maybe have a look in
the output of dmesg.


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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Wifi seems unavailable, but after seeking the ML I found there is a bug
in FSO MS5 (MS5 is the revision ?) and I had to do :
  echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind
  echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/bind
in order to get eth0 back.


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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread HansV

[quote]Wifi seems unavailable, but after seeking the ML I found there is a
bug
in FSO MS5 (MS5 is the revision ?) and I had to do :
  echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind
  echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/bind
in order to get eth0 back. [/quote]

I entered the commands above and eth0 is available now. But Mokonnect still
doesn't work, even after rebooting the FR. It says:
Wifi device seems to be off, trying to power it on...
This message takes forever. When the FR goes in standby the Wifi symbols is
shown in the top-shelf.
In Settings-Connectivity I can't change the WiFi setting, it always stays
in 'Automatic'.

After the reboot I had to enter the above commands again to get eth0 back.
The error message is now followed by:
Failed powering on the device or it was still not found in connman.
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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread Michele Brocco
to be honest. Mokonnect rarely worked for me. I would also suggest u
to use wpa_supplicant or similar wifi tools.
Usually I turn on wifi using the shr settings ui and then run
wpa_supplicant and udhcpc. That works 99% of the time if the interface
is up.

Good luck

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:17 AM, HansV h...@vanpee.be wrote:

 [quote]Wifi seems unavailable, but after seeking the ML I found there is a
 bug
 in FSO MS5 (MS5 is the revision ?) and I had to do :
      echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind
      echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/bind
 in order to get eth0 back. [/quote]

 I entered the commands above and eth0 is available now. But Mokonnect still
 doesn't work, even after rebooting the FR. It says:
 Wifi device seems to be off, trying to power it on...
 This message takes forever. When the FR goes in standby the Wifi symbols is
 shown in the top-shelf.
 In Settings-Connectivity I can't change the WiFi setting, it always stays
 in 'Automatic'.

 After the reboot I had to enter the above commands again to get eth0 back.
 The error message is now followed by:
 Failed powering on the device or it was still not found in connman.
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Re: omhacks for qtmoko?

2010-04-26 Thread Radek Polak
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz writes:

 Yes that could be good solution. QtMoko still uses debian stable but i
 guess it's not that big problem.

I have omhacks in qtmoko now. I have added build file for qtmoko and i will be 
using the source files directly from other programs. My plan is to be in sync 
with upstream (maybe except the qtmoko build file - or is there any interest to 
merge it too?)

Thanks for good tip Timo - i think it will be much better then shell scripts 
now.

Regards

Radek

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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread HansV

Strange thing is that I can't power on using shr settings: the dropdown only
shows the 'Automatic' value, on and off are not available.
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Re: QtMoko - Difficulty trying to mount SD as USB

2010-04-26 Thread swoody
 swoody wrote:
 Well, I've been trying my darnedest to get the sd card in my phone to
 mount as a USB drive.

 [...]

 I'm nearly at my wits end here. I don't have access to a card reader,
 and
 I tried setting up 3 different phones (non-FR's) as USB drives, but each
 one has it's own unique issue.

 You can buy SD/MMC USB card readers on eBay for 5 USD with free
 shipping.  You may need a microSD→full-size SD adapter too.  I have 2
 spare SD/XD/MS/M2/TF(AKA microSD) USB card readers.  You can have 1 of
 them, but it would probably cost more for me to mail them to you than
 for you to buy an SD/MMC reader with free shipping on eBay.  I have the
 2 spare readers because the product description on DealExtreme claimed
 they support CF, which my camera uses, but after I received them I
 discovered they do not support CF. (fail)  My 2 spare readers have
 separate slots for TF (AKA microSD) and full-size SD, though, so you
 could use both sizes of SD cards without needing an adapter.

Well thank you very much for that offer :) I was able to get USB mode
working by installing SHR onto th phone's nand. Then I followed the
instructions from that wiki page again, and was able to get it working
without issue. It acts just like a USB thumb drive - it automounts on my
laptop, I can access the SD, and I can even use gparted on it. So I think
for the time being that this will serve my purposes very well. I don't use
the SHR which is installed on nand, I just have it there 'in case', so I
have no problem leaving it installed so I can always access my sd as a USB
drive. I do think sooner or later that I may want to pick up a card
reader, and like you suggested, I think I will just find a cheap one on
eBay or NewEgg.

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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread Fox Mulder
Only when you switch the automatic value to manual the option to
power it on and off appears.

Am 26.04.2010 14:37, schrieb HansV:
 
 Strange thing is that I can't power on using shr settings: the dropdown only
 shows the 'Automatic' value, on and off are not available.

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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread Davide Scaini
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:37 PM, HansV h...@vanpee.be wrote:


 Strange thing is that I can't power on using shr settings: the dropdown
 only
 shows the 'Automatic' value, on and off are not available.


do you switched (the switch) from automatic to manual?


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Re: Two queries about Android installation

2010-04-26 Thread Jim Ancona
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote:
 
  The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card
 is
  only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT
 formatted
  SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall,
 some
  things don't work.

  It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because
  Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace
  Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi.
  Hope that helps!

 Yes thanks, it does.  It tells me that I can't switch between Debian
 and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by
 swapping SD cards.  Which is probably OK for now.


You may be able to partition your SD card so that Android can find a FAT
partition, yet you can still boot Debian from a different ext3 partition.
I'm not sure off hand how to do it, but I'd be surprised if it's not
possible.

Jim
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Re: git.openmoko.org / GTA02 kernel sources?

2010-04-26 Thread Joachim Steiger
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
 Am 22.04.2010 um 08:09 schrieb Martin Jansa:
 
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 07:59:27AM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller  
 wrote:
 I tried to fetch the latest kernel sources from 
 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=summary
  for learning something, but it appears that the server has some
 failure:

 iMac:tmp hns$ git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git  
 linux-2.6
 Initialized empty Git repository in /private/tmp/linux-2.6/.git/
 remote: fatal: Out of memory, realloc failed
 remote: aborting due to possible repository corruption on the remote
 side.
 fatal: early EOF
 fatal: index-pack failed
 iMac:tmp hns$

should be fixed now

the repo got quite big so we hit memory as well as diskspace quotas at
the same time ;)

i just cloned the kernel repo and it went through fine at 800kbyte/sec

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Re: omhacks for qtmoko?

2010-04-26 Thread Alfa21
2010-04...@13:59 Radek Polak

 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz writes:
 
  Yes that could be good solution. QtMoko still uses debian stable but i
  guess it's not that big problem.
 
 I have omhacks in qtmoko now. I have added build file for qtmoko and i will 
 be 
 using the source files directly from other programs. My plan is to be in sync 
 with upstream (maybe except the qtmoko build file - or is there any interest 
 to 
 merge it too?)
 
 Thanks for good tip Timo - i think it will be much better then shell scripts 
 now.
 
 Regards
 
 Radek


fine!
I'll include it in the upcoming debian behind next qtmoko releases as system 
base.
(so, ok, count on it in your developements)

stay tuned

ps: radek, I'll upload an image so you'll be able to download it and test as 
said before
(a tar.gz file to get from a server of mine)

sorry for the silence but I was not around the mokoscene in the last days.
regards!

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[qtmoko] bluetooth and bluez 4.60

2010-04-26 Thread Alfa21
someone knows if the compatibility issue about bluez upgrade to v4.60 and 
qtmoko is quickly/easily fixable on qtmoko code side?

can you check it?
by now I'll keep the old bluez but tests on the new one are welcome!

at the moment I'm not too skilled on the BT side :P sorry

keep me informed, please

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Re: git.openmoko.org / GTA02 kernel sources?

2010-04-26 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Montag, den 26.04.2010, 18:09 +0200 schrieb Joachim Steiger:
 the repo got quite big so we hit memory as well as diskspace quotas at
 the same time ;)
 
 i just cloned the kernel repo and it went through fine at 800kbyte/sec
 
 kind regards
 

Thanks for continuously providing infrastructure support to us although
your contract has ended long ago!

Cheers,

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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread HansV

OK, I didn't see this is a switch, I thought it was a dropdown box. Now I can
switch it on manually. Still finding out how to start wifi with
wpa-supplicant.
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Re: git.openmoko.org / GTA02 kernel sources?

2010-04-26 Thread Werner Almesberger
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
 That also raises more general questions:

I asked Joachim. I hope I got the details right:

- Openmoko Inc. still pays for the domain and the openmoko.org
  servers.

- The openmoko.org domain is owned by Openmoko Inc.

- the name servers serving the openmoko.org domain are Harald's
  or from the Netfilter project

- As far as I could puzzle this out, the servers are owned by
  Openmoko Inc., however, Harald and/or Gismo would get notified
  if anything was to happen to the servers.

- The openmoko.org servers are managed by Joachim and Gismo, in
  their spare time. (The physical machines are at Hetzner.)

- Werner

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Re: git.openmoko.org / GTA02 kernel sources?

2010-04-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 26.04.2010 um 19:33 schrieb Werner Almesberger:

 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
 That also raises more general questions:

 I asked Joachim. I hope I got the details right:

 - Openmoko Inc. still pays for the domain and the openmoko.org
  servers.

 - The openmoko.org domain is owned by Openmoko Inc.

 - the name servers serving the openmoko.org domain are Harald's
  or from the Netfilter project

 - As far as I could puzzle this out, the servers are owned by
  Openmoko Inc., however, Harald and/or Gismo would get notified
  if anything was to happen to the servers.

 - The openmoko.org servers are managed by Joachim and Gismo, in
  their spare time. (The physical machines are at Hetzner.)

Thanks for figuring this out - and many thanks to the volunteers to  
keep the infrastructure running! Please let us all know if you need  
support.

Some of us who are for a long time in the Linux handhelds ecosystem  
may remember the moment approx. 5 years ago when Sharp did pull the  
plug from the Zaurus forums and project pages. Some fast guys were  
able to copy many files from the Googe cache but the Wiki war mostly  
lost.

BR,
Nikolaus

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Re: [SHR-U] Wifi stopped working

2010-04-26 Thread Paul Fertser
HansV h...@vanpee.be writes:
 OK, I didn't see this is a switch, I thought it was a dropdown
 box. Now I can switch it on manually. Still finding out how to start
 wifi with wpa-supplicant.

Hard to succeed when you're reluctant to read, eh? ;)

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources
http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg58146.html

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Re: git.openmoko.org / GTA02 kernel sources?

2010-04-26 Thread Werner Almesberger
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
 Some fast guys were  
 able to copy many files from the Googe cache but the Wiki war mostly  
 lost.

Somewhat unrelated, but I wonder how the git-wiki projects are doing.
http://github.com/minad/git-wiki/network is supposed to give a clue
where the action is, but I find it somewhat confusing. (I guess it
would be much more useful if it only had a zoom ...)

http://git.awiki.org/ looks quite nice. A git-based Wiki that also
gives access to the repository would nicely solve the backup problem.

If the Wiki content is stored as plain files and revision meta-data
lives in git only (and its consistency is therefore ensured by git),
this would even allow for editing of the local copy with commits
from the command line, finally eliminating the evil Web-only
interface. Not sure if the git-wikis work like this, though.

- Werner

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bluetooth

2010-04-26 Thread Chuck Norris
Can someone point me in docs or show configs how to configure bluetooth
network with FreeRunner and my linux box(I have gentoo). I tried read
wiki.bluez.org but without success... :( Is it only possible configure
bluetooth on linux (bluez4) through dbus?

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Re: bluetooth

2010-04-26 Thread Paul Fertser
Chuck Norris norris.ch...@mail.ru writes:
 Is it only possible configure bluetooth on linux (bluez4) through
 dbus?

Here's the definitive and working guide, i've tested all that steps
myself.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Networking

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Re: git.openmoko.org / GTA02 kernel sources?

2010-04-26 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Hi Dr. Nikolaus

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@goldelico.com wrote:

 That also raises more general questions:
 * who (person, company) is responsible for git.openmoko.org?
 * even more general: who is responsible for openmoko.org?
 * if nobody, how can we protect that it suddenly completely disappears
 because some room manager unplugs the power cord or nobody pays the
 annual fee for the domain registration?

We still support this infrastructure and pay Gismo a monthly salary to
maintain things for us. He's doing great work, but do let us know if
there is anything specific you'd like us to improve.

Sean

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