Re: qtmoko v32 (experimental) - led indicators

2011-02-03 Thread Alfa21
hi,
since v31 I fount a reduced led light under the power button (near the usb 
port) while it's connected and charging
the orange is really soft and almost unnoticeable

I don't know if it's a wanted change or a bug

a similar issue with the wifi blue led, but it remains completely off and it's 
now unclear when we have an open connection unless we open the internet tool.
(also we don't have an icon on the display... eg like the G for gprs)

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Re: qtmoko, address book issue (v32 edition)

2011-02-03 Thread Alfa21

here I am again on this topic ;P
I know you are going to kill me because I insist too much on it :D

today I switched from v31 to v32, both of them stored on my uSD as rootfs.

iirc I added in my address book with v31 at least 5 new contacts.

now I've ereased the uSD (mkfs) and installed v32

right after the first boot and waiting for the full load of the contacts from 
my sim I noticed, first of all, every name is now truncated at 12 chars... but 
this is off topic here.

but the other thing on which I'm 100% sure is two of the new contacts I had in 
previous system is now disappeared.
I think they was stored only on the sqlite file and not copied on the sim card 
too.

the other was saved correctly, or almost... I do not know yet if 12chars length 
is only a presentation/cosmetic bug

now I've added a new, single, contact in v32 saving the number from a message 
(the sender of the sms) with a label of 11chars, powered down my gta02, booted 
and now it's correctly there in my address book... no bug this time

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Re: Bluetooth module

2011-02-03 Thread Petr Vanek
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:32:40 +0100
Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz (H) wrote:

But ... when I was dismounting the phone, I dammaged the bluetooth
module. The module itself may be OK, but the flex cable is torn off. 

ahoy,

the flexible PCB for BT does seem to be able to crack very easily,
mine broke about a year ago. One day, i would love to sit down and fix
it but as it is quite tedious job under a microscope i have been
procrastinating this as much as i could. Besides, it helped me to stop
worrying about the FSO BT support and i also stopped spamming people
on public transport with tux images via BT ;))

Petr



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Re: qtmoko v32 (experimental)

2011-02-03 Thread Ole Carlsen

Den 19-01-2011 22:53, Radek Polak skrev:

Hi,
i have released new experimental qtmoko images. They are now based on debian
squeeze and they have new (not finished) bluetooth support based on bluez4.


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GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions

2011-02-03 Thread Glenn

Hi All!

Here are some hardware suggestion for discussion:


1) Possibility of IR RC5 receiver/transmitter


2) Possibility of IRDA transceiver


3) Possibility of a video-link? Use 
touch-screen as a color matrix (2D) barcode video 
transmitter - and the camera as a receiver (half 
or full duplex). Let the link automatically adapt 
to to half duplex, if you need to turn your 
smartphone to establish the other half duplex 
connection. The link should also adapt frame rate 
and if the camera and/or screen is dirty - or the 
link is through a dirty window. I have no idea 
how fast the link can be as a function of 
distance. The link should automatically adapt if 
the video color matrix (2D) barcode is mirrored 
in any way - or played backwards.



4) Antenna diversity of (preferably pattern, 
space - or polarisation diversity):


* GSM/UMTS? (receive diversity incl. external antenna).

* 802.11(a)bg(n) (diversity) (W2CBW009Di: For 
Dual Antenna application) Almost every laptop 
has diversity.


* FM-receiver (receive diversity requires 
2*Si4721 - uC selects the best signal (listen to 
one - let the other turn on and scan when the 
listen-signal has to low S/N ratio) - or you can 
listen to one and record another).


* GPS? (receive diversity including external antenna).

For FM-diversity you can use a 180 degree hybrid 
(two loaded LC-circuits?) to separate common-mode 
and differential-mode - for diversity - if three 
space divided poles are available. I know that 
there is a capacitance between ear-wires and 
their ground, so I do not know, how well it will 
work. Note that some impedance matching might be 
needed.


For VHF/FM the head-phone cable might be used. 
The diversity might be implemented isolating 
ground by a adequate inductor (100MHz parallel 
LC-circuit) - and two high-pass filter from left 
and right earphone non-ground wires - and the 
GTA04 itself as a kind of ground/third-wire.


-

Links:

Matrix (2D) barcodes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcode#Matrix_.282D.29_barcodes

PCB-antennas (small):
http://www.numatechnologies.com/pdf/foilantennas.pdf

An antenna that can be sized for 100MHz reception 
around the perimeter of the PCB? Use two loops so 
ground is not needed:

http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/loop/k9ay/k9ay_orig.pdf
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/loop/k9ay/index.html

Also for 100MHz:
(T2FD -- The Forgotten Antenna: 
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/wire/t2fd.html 
)



1/3/2003 Antenna Diversity Strengthens Wireless LANs:
http://www.eetimes.com/design/communications-design/4008941/Antenna-Diversity-Strengthens-Wireless-LANs
Quote: ...While detailed implementations of 
dynamic diversity can vary widely, it's possible 
to summarize the simulated performance of a 
conceptually simple scheme relative to that of a 
single-antenna mode, as well as full diversity 
and selection diversity (Figure 6)...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_diversity
Quote: ...
Spatial diversity employs multiple antennas, 
usually with the same characteristics, that are 
physically separated from one another. Depending 
upon the expected incidence of the incoming 
signal, sometimes a space on the order of a 
wavelength is sufficient.

...
Pattern diversity consists of two or more 
co-located antennas with different radiation 
patterns.

...
A polarisation difference of 90° will result in 
an attenuation factor of up to 34dB in signal 
strength. By pairing two complementary 
polarizations, this scheme can immunize a system 
from polarization mismatches that would otherwise 
cause signal fade. Additionally, such diversity 
has proven valuable at radio and mobile 
communication base stations since it is less 
susceptible to the near random orientations of 
transmitting antennas.

...


http://web.archive.org/web/20060427002449/www.tvhandbook.com/support/pdf_files/Chapter17_7.pdf
Quote: ...
Diversity is only of value for the relatively 
rapid fading caused by multipath. This kind of 
fading is encountered extensively at HF and for 
tropospheric and iono- spheric scatter 
propagation at higher frequencies. Similarly, 
mobile vehicles passing through a static 
multipath field at VHF and UHF encounter such 
fading as a result of their motion.

...


180 degree hybrid:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Combine2.svg
Sum uses sum of ear-wires - and third-wire.
Difference to some extent uses only ear-wires.


Pattern Diversity:
90 degree hybrid:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Combine2.svg
X uses ear-wires in one direction.
Y uses ear-wires in the other one direction.

180 degree hybrid and 90 degree hybrid might be 
combined. One 90 and two 180 degrees? Then you 
have 4 receive pattern diversity output ports.



http://www.option.com/en/products/products/embedded-mobile-broadband/lgamodulegtm601-609/specifications/#start
Quote: ...
Simultaneous Equalization and Rx Diversity on all 
bands (Advance Receiver Type 3i), except for 

Audio path gain, was: Re: Bluetooth module

2011-02-03 Thread Hrabosh
Al Johnson píše v Pá 21. 01. 2011 v 10:34 +:
 On Friday 21 January 2011, Hrabosh wrote:
  Hi guys,
  
  yesterday I opened my freerunner to check whether mine FR is affected by
  R3004 issue [1].
  
  It was, I put a piece of wire there instead of those two caps and volume
  got better!
  
  I have also connected sine wave from generator to the WD8753 mic input
  and cheched it on the WD8753's output with the oscilloscope. It seemes
  that the audio codec chip gets into trouble (distortion, oscillations)
  if the overall audio path has higher gain than 1. I'm going to write
  more about this soon, with the scope pictures included (taken by my
  camera, I don't have DSO at home :-/ )
 
 That would be interesting to see, but your summary seems wrong or perhaps 
 oversimplified. Distortion is inevitable if you overload an amp, and 
 oscillation isn't unusual immediately after overload. It isn't a function of 
 the overall path gain though. The wolfson has a chain of amps and volume 
 controls, and it only needs overload at one of them to introduce distortion. 
 Stick the gain too high on the first stage (mic input) and the distortion 
 won't go away no matter how far you turn down the gain on later stages. This 
 has been a long standing problem with the default volume settings.

Yes, it is oversimplified. It is obvious that you can't fix distortion
by lowering the gain of next-in-chain amplifier. You are just
controlling the volume of already distorted signal.

I put that picture from my scope with a short description to my web
page, here:

http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/ALSA/sound_setting.html

I was very surprised how LOW I had to set the audio controls to get rid
of distortion:

Mic2: 0
Sidetone: 1

Strange ...



 
  But ... when I was dismounting the phone, I dammaged the bluetooth
  module. The module itself may be OK, but the flex cable is torn off.
  
  Don't you have any idea where can I buy some spare?
 
 I've not seen anyone list them as a spare for sale, but any of the 
 distributors might have them available.

Nicholas from Golden Delicious answered my desperate E-mail :-)





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openmoko as mouse

2011-02-03 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
Hi List,

I read about Apple -of all companies- trying to run away with an idea that was 
discussed (at least by myself, and probably by others as well) on the mailing 
list as well as off line: 
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20110012838.pdf

It seems to cover using a telephone's touchsreen as the input for another 
system. I would say it's lacks the innovative step necessary for a valid 
patent, but that's probably only the reasoning of sane people. 

Would it be something to worry about?

Best regards,

Boudewijn


  

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Re: Which Java JRE? (dusting off this thred)

2011-02-03 Thread Eric Smith
Is anyone using a JRE on the freerunner?

Please advice what is possible and available.

Thanks a lot.

-- 
- Eric Smith
Rafael Campos said:
 Hello,
 
 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Arigead captain.dea...@gmail.com wrote:
  Bernd Prunster wrote:
  Martin Jansa wrote:
  On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:06:35PM +, Arigead wrote:
 
  Hello all,
      I'm working on a project and I think it'd be cool as to show off the
  project's work on a phone. The OpenMoko phone ;-)
 
  Unfortunately the project is implemented in Java, which I'm no fan of on
  anything but a web server or browser but that's a discussion for another
  day.
 
  I tried our system, which is running in an OSGi Container, on Jamvm on
  the OpenMoko. It works but it sucks up 95% of the CPU when it's idle.
  Not Good! I tried the same on my eeePC and with Sun's JRE our system
  uses 1% of CPU whilst JamVM on the eeePC uses 40%. Obviously JamVM does
  not suit our system.
 
  No idea if it would be better, but have you tried cacao? Its in shr-feeds 
  now again.
 
  This is really weird!
  I wrtoe one more or less serious app in java for the freerunner and a
  couple of test apps and jamvm had avery fast startup, but was not as
  compatible as cacao, but easier to use and did not require that much
  ressources.
  which distro are you using? which feed are you using to install jamvm
  (dunno if still true but there used to be a difference depending on
  where you installed it from).
 
 
  Sorry I've been a bit busy on stuff and only now catching up here on the
  list.
 
  I'm using the latest classpath 0.98 and Jamvm 1.5.3  I can't remember
  the specifics at the moment but there was some feature of Java 6 that
  our system's code was using which required JamVM 1.5.3 which in turn
  required Classpath 0.98. I just used a OE recipe for those and build
  them for the OpenMoko.
 
  I tried the Cacao JRE on my eeePC and it soaked up resources as well so
  I never even bothered to build it for the phone. Obviously something in
  our Java System, mabe knophlerfish is not streamlined in these JRE's.
  There is a Huge difference in running our system in a SUN JRE (1% CPU
  According top) and other Jre's
 
  I'm working now on the eeePC to see can I reduce this 40% on Jamvm. When
  I get time actually I'm now trying to connect to an AdHoc wifi network
  form the FreeRunner.
 
  Thanks for the clarification on the ARM front. I don't think Sun have a
  JRE for an ARM 4, no surprise really ;-) Things would be too easy.
 
 
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 I think that OpenJDK has some JRE machines running on ARM. It's no
 receipe in OE yet, but i tested a GUI in a OE machine and worked fine.
 I didn't test the load of the CPU, but i could tell that some JREs are
 working.
 
 I hope to post some of this in OE repos, and get a OpenJava JRE machine :)
 
 
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[WikiReader] Wikitravel announced

2011-02-03 Thread Doug Jones
It was nice to get the WikiReader newsletter today.  I'd forgotten that 
I had subscribed to that.


They announced Wikitravel.

It's not listed on the update page yet, but I found the torrent here:

http://wrmlbeta.s3.amazonaws.com/entrav-20101116.7z.001?torrent

Seeding it now.

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[WikiReader] what's up with Wikitravel?

2011-02-03 Thread Doug Jones
I just added Wikitravel to my WikiReader.  But it doesn't appear on the 
menu.


Does it require a newer base file?  Perhaps this one?

http://wrmlbeta.s3.amazonaws.com/base-20110106.7z?torrent

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list strangeness?

2011-02-03 Thread Doug Jones
I just realized I haven't received any mail from this list for the past 
week.  But the list archives show some messages during that period, 
including some I just sent.


I logged into the list manager and checked my options, and everything 
looked fine.  I changed a few, just to see if this action might jog the 
list's memory.  Still not receiving any messages.


Anybody else having this problem?  (If you don't receive this, please 
reply to the list.  ;)


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Re: list strangeness?

2011-02-03 Thread EdorFaus

On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Doug Jones wrote:

I just realized I haven't received any mail from this list for the past
week.  But the list archives show some messages during that period,
including some I just sent.



Anybody else having this problem?  (If you don't receive this, please
reply to the list.  ;)


I'm having this problem. I realized the same thing, went looking through 
the archive, and found this post there - so yes, I didn't receive it. ;)


A different list I'm on had a similar problem recently, which turned out 
to be caused by the IP block the list server was in having ended up in a 
blacklist, so that mailhosts using the blacklist wouldn't accept mail 
from the list.


I guess this could be the case here too, so someone who knows how to 
check these things might want to check it out.


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list strangeness

2011-02-03 Thread Benjamin Deering

I haven't been receiving messages either.

Ben

On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Doug Jones wrote:

/  I just realized I haven't received any mail from this list for the past

//  week.  But the list archives show some messages during that period,
//  including some I just sent.
/

/  Anybody else having this problem?  (If you don't receive this, please

//  reply to the list.  ;)
/
I'm having this problem. I realized the same thing, went looking through
the archive, and found this post there - so yes, I didn't receive it. ;)

A different list I'm on had a similar problem recently, which turned out
to be caused by the IP block the list server was in having ended up in a
blacklist, so that mailhosts using the blacklist wouldn't accept mail
from the list.

I guess this could be the case here too, so someone who knows how to
check these things might want to check it out.

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list strangeness

2011-02-03 Thread Doug Jones

I just sent a message to mailman about this.

I also checked the archives of the other published Openmoko lists.  The 
Community list is the only one showing any activity since January 21, 
and even that is very small.


Prior to January 21, the list was getting about seven messages per day, 
similar to the rate for the last few months.  Now it is down to about 
one per day.  They all seem to be replies to messages sent on or before 
January 21, or newly created messages, or the 'list strangeness' 
messages where we are generating replies manually from the list archive.


This suggests to me that nobody is receiving list messages via email.

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debian installed, uImage.bin not recognised

2011-02-03 Thread Eric Smith

Hi

After about 90 minutes, the install.sh all command completed with request to 
reboot.
No errors reported.

On power on, it boots into the old Qtmoko.
When I explicitly boot from microSD on the NOR screen,
it flashes an error than uImage.bin not recognised - no kernel image

By deafult the new boot partition is mounted when it boots into the Qtmoko and 
I get a listing
neo:~# ls -lrt /media/card
total 2216
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1509096 Aug  7 15:10 
uImage.bin-2.6.29-20100313.git973a41fc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  682681 Aug  7 15:10 
System.map-2.6.29-20100313.git973a41fc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   51778 Aug  7 15:12 config-2.6.29-20100313.git973a41fc
drwx-- 2 root root   12288 Jan 29 19:01 lost+found
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  38 Jan 29 19:52 uImage.bin - 
uImage.bin-2.6.29-20100313.git973a41fc

Which to me looks pretty healthy.

The paritions on the SD are:
neo:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 2027 MB, 2027945984 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 61888 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xde50b0d4

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/mmcblk0p1   1 2457832   83  Linux
/dev/mmcblk0p2 246   61888 1972576   83  Linux
And the last one seems to be fully poulated

There is a warning on the http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner not to type 
reboot: but use the buttons 
which is what I did, but the manual on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian 
says the opposite.

How do I get out of this problem and into the debian install.

 
- Eric Smith

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Buzzfix at fosdem

2011-02-03 Thread Jan Vlug
Hello all,

I'm considering to visit Fosdem on Sunday 6 February.
Is there someone around who could buzzfix my Freerunner?

Thanks,
Jan.

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Wrong date/ time in QtMoko v31 and v32

2011-02-03 Thread Daniel MT
Hey there.
Every time I restart the system the date/ time is reseted to the epoch
(using v31 and v32 installed on the sd card). While booting I get
several suspicious messages like
RTC_RD_Time: invalid argument
or
pcf50633-rtc pcf50633-rtc.0: hctosys: unable to read the hardware clock

I attached the output of dmesg at http://pastebin.com/GUKUrCu6

Any hint?, please.


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buzzfix possible on fosdem?

2011-02-03 Thread Jan Vlug

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Hello all,


I'm considering to visit Fosdem on Sunday 6 February.
Is there someone around who could buzzfix my Freerunner?


Thanks,
Jan.

PS I sent this message already to this list before, but for some
reason it did not arrive...
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Freerunner buzzfix possible on Fosdem

2011-02-03 Thread Jan Vlug

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Hello all,

I have the intention to visit Fosdem at Sunday 6 February.
Will there be anyone of you around who has the skills and tools to
buzz fix my Freerunner.

I would be really happy if I could give it another try to use the
Freerunner in real live.

Kind regards,
Jan Vlug.
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[Community Updates] 2011-02-01 issue is out!

2011-02-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Newest community update now available at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-02-01 and plain
text version below.

This issue was brought to you by:

- Toams
- Hns
- PaulWise
- Ssam
- TimoJyrinki

( as usual, you can help out with the next issue at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2011-03-01 )

Remember that when the date for the next issue arrives, feel free to
do this publishing and wrapping up instead of me.

-

Period 2010-12-01 to 2011-01-31



*** Hardware ***


In this issue there is a dedicated section to hardware. There has been
no such section in the Community Updates mainly because after the 2008
launch of Neo FreeRunner, there hasn't been continuation to the
Openmoko Inc's pioneering phone hardware with (mostly) CC-BY-SA
schematics, 100% free software stack and all the other freedom joy...
until now.


GTA04

GTA04 is a project by the long time distributor and hw developer,
German company Golden Delicious. The name is loaned from Openmoko
project because of the spiritual continuation - GTA01 was the codename
for Neo1973, GTA02 was the Neo FreeRunner, and GTA03 was the canceled
successor product. Besides offering improved versions of Neo
FreeRunner (better battery life, better audio output), they've a
complete replacement board planned to fit an existing Neo FreeRunner
case and use the existing display.

The key details of GTA04 include among else:

* OMAP3530 ARMv7 CPU
* UMTS/3G (HSPA)
* USB 2.0 OTG
* WLAN, BT, FM transceiver
* Barometric Altimeter, Accelerometer, Compass, Gyroscope
* Optionally camera

Find your GTA04 information at the following addresses:

* http://www.gta04.org/ - technical: u-boot, kernel, Debian...
* http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04 - shopping page
* http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04-Early-Adopter
- the early adopter program, although already finished

Latest news:

* gta04-owner mailing list founded, although occasionally you will
find news also from the openmoko-community list among else; join the
list at http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/gta04-owner/
* First engineering sample (GTA04A2) is working in PDA mode
(U-Boot in NAND Flash)
* GTA04A3 is getting final PCB layout fine tuning
* UMTS (3G) modules have arrived. And GTA04 likely to have 512 MB
RAM, 512 MB NAND Flash and 1GHz DM3730 CPU.
http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/gta04-owner/2011-January/25.html

Visit the FOSDEM in Brussels, Belgium next weekend (5th/6th of
February, 2011) to see GTA04 in action and discuss about it! See
http://fosdem.org/2011/ , http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2011 ,
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-December/063899.html



*** Distributions ***


Distributions lists releases and other significant updates in
distributions that have some support for the Openmoko devices.


Debian GNU/Linux

Debian is a universal operating system used on many embedded devices,
servers and home computers. Using Debian on the FreeRunner gives
access to the huge army of software packaged in the Debian
repositories, already compiled for the Neo's ARM(v4) processor.
Moreover, one can build one's own source files for programs without
having to learn the OpenEmbedded way. For an existing Debian/Ubuntu
user, choosing Debian for Neo FreeRunner makes phone a very familiar,
trustworthy and flexible place to hack in.

General news:

* Third Openmoko specific Linux 2.6.34 kernel is available. Highlights:
  o Merge from qtmoko-v31 (2.6.34.7 stable patches, GPS
suspend patch, resume reason patch)
  o Disable sysrq, unneededEXT4 support, UbiFS support
  o Configuration wishlist items: NFSv4, XATTR for EXT*,
CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT, CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING,
CONFIG_OPENMOKO_RESUME_REASON
  o Caveats: 1) No updated fso-config-gta02 yet in Debian, get
your state files from eg. http://iki.fi/tjyrinki/moko/2.6.34/ 2) X.Org
eats all the CPU unless you disable AutoAddDevices or remove extra
/dev/input files, 3) Sys paths have changed, so you most probably want
to add om gsm power 1 to /etc/rc.local (and install newest omhacks
from pkg-fso if you already haven't)
* Debian 6.0 is nearing completion! Planned release date is the
weekend of FOSDEM, ie. 5/6th of February, 2011. For Neo FreeRunner,
the Debian 6.0 status is the following:
  o No Openmoko support in the Debian kernel yet, you need to
install one from pkg-fso repository:
http://pkg-fso.nomeata.de/sid/allpackages
  o Otherwise you could survive with official, released Debian
packages, but you are probably interested...
+ Newer versions of fso-config-gta02, fso-frameworkd
and omhacks in pkg-fso
+ E17 wasn't released on time for Debian 6.0, so you
need to get it from unstable (sid) repositories, or after the Debian
6.0 release from testing (wheezy in case of 7.0) to get for example
Zhone software working
* Omhacks 

Is this community dead?

2011-02-03 Thread Iain B. Findleton
Have not seen anything on the OM list for a while. Has the server gone? 
Is the community dead?


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list strangeness

2011-02-03 Thread Nick Sheppard
Same here.  My last list message forwarded by email was timed 10:34 on
21st Jan.  Since then, nothing at all.

As an experiment I logged on to the list a couple of days ago and
requested a password reminder.  It said reminder sent but the reminder
never reached me - so whatever is stopping the list-forwarding must have
stopped that too.

Anyone else having this problem?

Nick Sheppard


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Will gta02 drive a different screen?

2011-02-03 Thread undrwater

Thinking about a use case for gta02 (especially if gta04 becomes viable),
will the current motherboard and video chip drive a larger lcd touch screen?  

If so, is the process a complex one..such as soldering plus maybe altering
currents (can you tell Im not experience with this stuff?)?  If it just
means making sure the pinout is correct and matching it with the screen, I
think I could do that. :)

Any info will be helpful (including, don't try it).

Thank you,

Russell Dwiggins
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Re: [Shr-User] buzzfix possible on fosdem?

2011-02-03 Thread Jan Vlug

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On 02/02/2011 01:58 PM, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
 2011/1/31 Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl:
 I'm considering to visit Fosdem on Sunday 6 February.
 Is there someone around who could buzzfix my Freerunner?

 According to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2011 aSThRo might.

 -Timo
Hello Thomas,

As pointed out by Timo, you might fix some phones at Fosdem.
I'm planning to come to Fosdem on Sunday. Would it be possible to fix
my phone. Buzz fix, and maybe even more fixes?
If possible this would be really cool. If so, do you have the required
tools and components yourself?

Thanks,
Jan Vlug

PS Unfortunately, my ISP marks my outgoing mail sometimes as spam.
PPS Sorry for cross posting, but I thought this might be of interest
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Fwd: New theme by a french ..

2011-02-03 Thread Radek Polak

---BeginMessage---
Hello (sorry, i'am french),
  
I am currently working on a theme for QtMoko.
I have some questions to continue but I will first present it to you.
  
Here are some screenshots:
1: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/cb5f1b2017ab310b8308444d844044e2.png 
2: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/14f997441b41eb670713873ff90d7b4d.png 
3: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/45dd0532ab9fbb82d0406f2d08286a35.png 
4: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/9b4c7c9396fd25dabaaa89addb92f54b.png 
5: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/e040968d874465160db0f256fdfba9de.png 
6: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/9f8eb8b014f08d6101e5da37e98bf1b5.png 
  
Who do I contact for my questions?
  
Regards!
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Re: [Shr-User] buzzfix possible on fosdem?

2011-02-03 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
Le 02/02/2011 23:04, Jan Vlug a écrit :

 On 02/02/2011 01:58 PM, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
  2011/1/31 Jan Vlug jan.pub...@famvlug.nl:
  I'm considering to visit Fosdem on Sunday 6 February.
  Is there someone around who could buzzfix my Freerunner?

  According to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2011 aSThRo might.

  -Timo
 Hello Thomas,

 As pointed out by Timo, you might fix some phones at Fosdem.
 I'm planning to come to Fosdem on Sunday. Would it be possible to fix
 my phone. Buzz fix, and maybe even more fixes?
 If possible this would be really cool. If so, do you have the required
 tools and components yourself?

 Thanks,
 Jan Vlug

 PS Unfortunately, my ISP marks my outgoing mail sometimes as spam.
 PPS Sorry for cross posting, but I thought this might be of interest
 for the Openmoko community list as well.
Well, I'll bring my soldering iron, some caps, some wire and I'll ask
Hackable Device / Tuxbrain for some room on a corner of a table ;-)

I'll send you my phone number MP.
-- 
Thomas HOCEDEZ

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list strangeness

2011-02-03 Thread Benjamin Deering
It looks like lists.openmoko.org (88.198.124.203) is blacklisted by 
backscatterer.org:


http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a88.198.124.203

Is that the problem?


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Re: Openmoko mailing list?

2011-02-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 03.02.2011 um 18:47 schrieb Iain B. Findleton:

 Hi,
 
 Has this community died? I receive no activity from the Openmoko mailing 
 lists lately. Is there a follow-on list for GTA-04?

Not that I am aware of.

And we have no plans to move all discussions elsewhere since GTA04 is just
a fraction of the activities in the Openmoko world. Others to mention are
software projects:
* SHR
* QtMoko
* FSO etc.
or other hardware projects:
* Freerunner Navigation board

We have a special list gta04-owner but that is intended for direct communication
with the owners of the early adopter program. Therefore, members are currently
on invitation only. Later on it may become more open to the public if needed.

So I want to encourage to write all discussions, questions etc. about the
GTA04 on the community list.

Maybe, the community server is just down...

Nikolaus
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FOSDEM Hackable Devices stand

2011-02-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Wim has asked me to forward that the Hackable Devices stand will be
located in Building AW.

I will show the Openmoko Beagle Hybrid and the GTA04 engineering
sample. David will show the Nanonote.

And I am sure there are many other Hackable devices to discuss about.

See you Saturday/Sunday in Brussels,
Nikolaus

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Re: list strangeness

2011-02-03 Thread shamsul hassan
Its strange .. i thought that everybody is just relaxing and not doing
anything but this doesn't seems to be the case .. coz today I got all the
mails in a single shot which were sent 13 days back ... Thank god .. it
actually reached safely ..

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doug Jones dj...@frombob.to wrote:

 I just sent a message to mailman about this.

 I also checked the archives of the other published Openmoko lists.  The
 Community list is the only one showing any activity since January 21, and
 even that is very small.

 Prior to January 21, the list was getting about seven messages per day,
 similar to the rate for the last few months.  Now it is down to about one
 per day.  They all seem to be replies to messages sent on or before January
 21, or newly created messages, or the 'list strangeness' messages where we
 are generating replies manually from the list archive.

 This suggests to me that nobody is receiving list messages via email.

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Re: openmoko as mouse

2011-02-03 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra

Em 24-01-2011 10:46, W. B. Kranendonk escreveu:

Hi List,

I read about Apple -of all companies- trying to run away with an idea that was 
discussed (at least by myself, and probably by others as well) on the mailing 
list as well as off line:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20110012838.pdf

It seems to cover using a telephone's touchsreen as the input for another 
system. I would say it's lacks the innovative step necessary for a valid 
patent, but that's probably only the reasoning of sane people.

Would it be something to worry about?

Best regards,

Boudewijn


In the early days of OpenMoko, Valerio Valerio did an awesome program 
that did this, among many other things... Can't remember the name of the 
program though.


Rui

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Re: Is this community dead?

2011-02-03 Thread Jeff Sadowski
Phones need to get smaller for me to use them but I like the
architecture and openness I pretty sure this is the only phone that
you can without hacking the hell out of it set it to a state where you
can plug all the usb devices into it that you want limit 256ish
devices.

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Iain B. Findleton
ifindle...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Have not seen anything on the OM list for a while. Has the server gone? Is
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Re: openmoko as mouse

2011-02-03 Thread Lukas Märdian
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 In the early days of OpenMoko, Valerio Valerio did an awesome program
 that did this, among many other things... Can't remember the name of the
 program though.
 
 Rui
 

Hey!

ReMoko[1] was the name of that programm.
It really was great!

- -- Slyon

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ReMoko
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Re: New theme by a french ..

2011-02-03 Thread Francesco De Vita
Nooo! I don't want to believe it! This guy stolen my idea, a theme with
the Faenza icons!! Noo!
Hahahaha never mind :) I am to busy too work on a new theme in this period
(but hey, there was the idea!), so... it is a really good work! :)
But I have a question, are these pictures a mock up? or are they about a
working theme?

Regards
Joif
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Re: Bluetooth module

2011-02-03 Thread Hrabosh
Petr Vanek píše v So 22. 01. 2011 v 05:51 +0800:
 On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:32:40 +0100
 Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz (H) wrote:
 
 But ... when I was dismounting the phone, I dammaged the bluetooth
 module. The module itself may be OK, but the flex cable is torn off. 
 
 ahoy,
 
zdar!

 the flexible PCB for BT does seem to be able to crack very easily,
 mine broke about a year ago. One day, i would love to sit down and fix
 it but as it is quite tedious job under a microscope i have been
 procrastinating this as much as i could. Besides, it helped me to stop
 worrying about the FSO BT support and i also stopped spamming people
 on public transport with tux images via BT ;))
 

I got dead motherboard with BT module on it from Golden Delicious. So I
replaced it earlier this week and everything seems to work. I was trying
to pair my FR with my car radio today while bored in traffic jam - so I
run the search procedure and found 4 mobile phones and 3 hands-free
sets :-)

BTW.. I've just received a bunch of E-mails from last 2 weeks or so.
Strange ...

Zb.


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Re: qtmoko v32 (experimental) - led indicators

2011-02-03 Thread Francesco De Vita
2011/1/21 Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it

 [...]
 (also we don't have an icon on the display... eg like the G for gprs)


for what I saw, to insert a new icon (maybe in the top bar) it is necessary
to modify the theme and add the icon and the proper parameters.

Regards
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Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions

2011-02-03 Thread Hrabosh


I would appreciate two little improvements/changes.


- 3.5mm 3 way jack instead of 2.5mm 4 way.

- LEDs driven by external ICs, so they would be able to lit eve if FR is
in suspend. Im planning (- which means that it may not even
happen :-) ) to drive LEDs by I2C drivers, or to add some latch between
the LED and FR's processor.


Zb.


Glenn píše v So 22. 01. 2011 v 23:22 +0100:
 Hi All!
 
 Here are some hardware suggestion for discussion:
 
 
 1) Possibility of IR RC5 receiver/transmitter
 
 
 2) Possibility of IRDA transceiver
 
 
 3) Possibility of a video-link? Use 
 touch-screen as a color matrix (2D) barcode video 
 transmitter - and the camera as a receiver (half 
 or full duplex). Let the link automatically adapt 
 to to half duplex, if you need to turn your 
 smartphone to establish the other half duplex 
 connection. The link should also adapt frame rate 
 and if the camera and/or screen is dirty - or the 
 link is through a dirty window. I have no idea 
 how fast the link can be as a function of 
 distance. The link should automatically adapt if 
 the video color matrix (2D) barcode is mirrored 
 in any way - or played backwards.
 
 
 4) Antenna diversity of (preferably pattern, 
 space - or polarisation diversity):
 
 * GSM/UMTS? (receive diversity incl. external antenna).
 
 * 802.11(a)bg(n) (diversity) (W2CBW009Di: For 
 Dual Antenna application) Almost every laptop 
 has diversity.
 
 * FM-receiver (receive diversity requires 
 2*Si4721 - uC selects the best signal (listen to 
 one - let the other turn on and scan when the 
 listen-signal has to low S/N ratio) - or you can 
 listen to one and record another).
 
 * GPS? (receive diversity including external antenna).
 
 For FM-diversity you can use a 180 degree hybrid 
 (two loaded LC-circuits?) to separate common-mode 
 and differential-mode - for diversity - if three 
 space divided poles are available. I know that 
 there is a capacitance between ear-wires and 
 their ground, so I do not know, how well it will 
 work. Note that some impedance matching might be 
 needed.
 
 For VHF/FM the head-phone cable might be used. 
 The diversity might be implemented isolating 
 ground by a adequate inductor (100MHz parallel 
 LC-circuit) - and two high-pass filter from left 
 and right earphone non-ground wires - and the 
 GTA04 itself as a kind of ground/third-wire.
 
 -
 
 Links:
 
 Matrix (2D) barcodes:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcode#Matrix_.282D.29_barcodes
 
 PCB-antennas (small):
 http://www.numatechnologies.com/pdf/foilantennas.pdf
 
 An antenna that can be sized for 100MHz reception 
 around the perimeter of the PCB? Use two loops so 
 ground is not needed:
 http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/loop/k9ay/k9ay_orig.pdf
 http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/loop/k9ay/index.html
 
 Also for 100MHz:
 (T2FD -- The Forgotten Antenna: 
 http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/wire/t2fd.html 
 )
 
 
 1/3/2003 Antenna Diversity Strengthens Wireless LANs:
 http://www.eetimes.com/design/communications-design/4008941/Antenna-Diversity-Strengthens-Wireless-LANs
 Quote: ...While detailed implementations of 
 dynamic diversity can vary widely, it's possible 
 to summarize the simulated performance of a 
 conceptually simple scheme relative to that of a 
 single-antenna mode, as well as full diversity 
 and selection diversity (Figure 6)...
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_diversity
 Quote: ...
 Spatial diversity employs multiple antennas, 
 usually with the same characteristics, that are 
 physically separated from one another. Depending 
 upon the expected incidence of the incoming 
 signal, sometimes a space on the order of a 
 wavelength is sufficient.
 ...
 Pattern diversity consists of two or more 
 co-located antennas with different radiation 
 patterns.
 ...
 A polarisation difference of 90° will result in 
 an attenuation factor of up to 34dB in signal 
 strength. By pairing two complementary 
 polarizations, this scheme can immunize a system 
 from polarization mismatches that would otherwise 
 cause signal fade. Additionally, such diversity 
 has proven valuable at radio and mobile 
 communication base stations since it is less 
 susceptible to the near random orientations of 
 transmitting antennas.
 ...
 
 
 http://web.archive.org/web/20060427002449/www.tvhandbook.com/support/pdf_files/Chapter17_7.pdf
 Quote: ...
 Diversity is only of value for the relatively 
 rapid fading caused by multipath. This kind of 
 fading is encountered extensively at HF and for 
 tropospheric and iono- spheric scatter 
 propagation at higher frequencies. Similarly, 
 mobile vehicles passing through a static 
 multipath field at VHF and UHF encounter such 
 fading as a result of their motion.
 ...
 
 
 180 degree hybrid:
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Combine2.svg
 Sum uses sum of ear-wires - and third-wire.
 Difference to some extent uses only ear-wires.
 
 
 Pattern Diversity:
 90 degree hybrid:
 

Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions

2011-02-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 03.02.2011 um 23:09 schrieb Hrabosh:

 
 
 I would appreciate two little improvements/changes.
 
 
 - 3.5mm 3 way jack instead of 2.5mm 4 way.

Unfortunately there is no space in the GTA case. You have to get rid of the
battery connector or the speaker :(

 - LEDs driven by external ICs, so they would be able to lit eve if FR is
 in suspend. Im planning (- which means that it may not even
 happen :-) ) to drive LEDs by I2C drivers, or to add some latch between
 the LED and FR's processor.

Yes:

http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tca6507.html


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Re: Fwd: New theme by a french ..

2011-02-03 Thread David Lanzendörfer
Hello
Hi

(sorry, i'am french),
You're forgiven ;-)

Here are some screenshots:
Great work!
Wish someone would do such beautiful designs for SHR too...

best regards
lev


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Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions

2011-02-03 Thread Hrabosh
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller píše v Čt 03. 02. 2011 v 22:18 +0100:
 Am 03.02.2011 um 23:09 schrieb Hrabosh:
 
  
  
  I would appreciate two little improvements/changes.
  
  
  - 3.5mm 3 way jack instead of 2.5mm 4 way.
 
 Unfortunately there is no space in the GTA case. You have to get rid of the
 battery connector or the speaker :(
 

I was trying to replace that 2.5mm by 3.5mm and found this one:

http://cz.farnell.com/multicomp/mj4435-r/socket-3-5mm-jack-smd-3pole/dp/1638670?Ntt=1638670

which seems to fit there (I was playing with the dead motherboard you've
sent me). But it has no switching contact for jack presence detection.




  - LEDs driven by external ICs, so they would be able to lit eve if FR is
  in suspend. Im planning (- which means that it may not even
  happen :-) ) to drive LEDs by I2C drivers, or to add some latch between
  the LED and FR's processor.
 
 Yes:
 
 http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tca6507.html
 
 
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Re: list strangeness

2011-02-03 Thread Jan Vlug


  
  

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 Its strange .. i thought that
  everybody is just relaxing and not
   doing anything but this doesn't seems to be the case .. coz
  today I
   got all the mails in a single shot which were sent 13 days
  back ...
   Thank god .. it actually reached safely ..
  
   On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doug Jones
  dj...@frombob.to
   mailto:dj...@frombob.to wrote:
  
   I just sent a message to mailman about this.
  
   I also checked the archives of the other published Openmoko
   lists. The Community list is the only one showing any
  activity
   since January 21, and even that is very small.
  
   Prior to January 21, the list was getting about seven
  messages
   per day, similar to the rate for the last few months. Now
  it is
   down to about one per day. They all seem to be replies to
   messages sent on or before January 21, or newly created
   messages, or the 'list strangeness' messages where we are
   generating replies manually from the list archive.
  
   This suggests to me that nobody is receiving list messages
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some
sent by myself that I considered lost on the internet...
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Re: list strangeness

2011-02-03 Thread Jan Vlug


  
  

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On 02/03/2011 09:26 PM, shamsul hassan wrote:
 Its strange .. i thought that
  everybody is just relaxing and not
   doing anything but this doesn't seems to be the case .. coz
  today I
   got all the mails in a single shot which were sent 13 days
  back ...
   Thank god .. it actually reached safely ..
  
   On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doug Jones
  dj...@frombob.to
   mailto:dj...@frombob.to wrote:
  
   I just sent a message to mailman about this.
  
   I also checked the archives of the other published Openmoko
   lists. The Community list is the only one showing any
  activity
   since January 21, and even that is very small.
  
   Prior to January 21, the list was getting about seven
  messages
   per day, similar to the rate for the last few months. Now
  it is
   down to about one per day. They all seem to be replies to
   messages sent on or before January 21, or newly created
   messages, or the 'list strangeness' messages where we are
   generating replies manually from the list archive.
  
   This suggests to me that nobody is receiving list messages
  via
   email.
  
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I also received several old messages today. Including some that I
sent
myself, and which I considered to be lost on the internet...
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Re: [WikiReader] what's up with Wikitravel?

2011-02-03 Thread Alexander Lehner



On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Doug Jones wrote:


I just added Wikitravel to my WikiReader.  But it doesn't appear on the menu.

Does it require a newer base file?  Perhaps this one?

http://wrmlbeta.s3.amazonaws.com/base-20110106.7z?torrent


Maybe...
I'm using this base file:
http://wrmlbeta.s3.amazonaws.com/base-grifo-20101229.7z

See
http://dev.thewikireader.com/2010/06/26/project-gutenberg/

at the end of all postings for explanation, and I can read the wikitravel 
with it.


I'm seeding wikitravel now also, as well as any wiki's and gutenberg's 
that I could get.


distribution ranking from the last weeks:
1 - base 17x
2 - enpedia 11x
3 - depedia (German) 2x
4 - frpedia (French) 1x
5 - espedia (Spain) (less than 1x)
6 - japedia (Japan)
7 - zhpedia (Chinese?)
8 - enguten
9 - ptpedia (Portugal)
10 - fipedia (Finnland)


base and enpedia have constantly about 5 complete seeders, the rest only 
about 1 or 2.
It would be a nicer update experience for the users if we had more 
seeders.


A.


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Re: Which Java JRE? (dusting off this thred)

2011-02-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com writes:
 Is anyone using a JRE on the freerunner?

 Please advice what is possible and available.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2011/02/msg00011.html


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Re: debian installed, uImage.bin not recognised

2011-02-03 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com writes:
 After about 90 minutes, the install.sh all command completed with request to 
 reboot.
 No errors reported.

 On power on, it boots into the old Qtmoko.

What parameters did you give to install.sh? In particular, which boot
loader are you using and how is it configured?

 When I explicitly boot from microSD on the NOR screen,

You should not use NOR u-boot for anything else than flashing.

 There is a warning on the http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
 not to type reboot: but use the buttons

I don't think this is your real problem but the warning indeed makes
no sense to me. Jidanni, you added this paragraph to the wiki in 2008,
do you remember why?

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner?action=diffrev1=78rev2=79


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Re: FOSDEM Hackable Devices stand

2011-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
 Wim has asked me to forward that the Hackable Devices stand will be
 located in Building AW.

 I will show the Openmoko Beagle Hybrid and the GTA04 engineering
 sample. David will show the Nanonote.

And the Milkymist One VJ station
http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Milkymist_One

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Re: debian installed, uImage.bin not recognised

2011-02-03 Thread jidanni
 TJL == Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes:
TJL no sense to me. Jidanni, you added this paragraph to the wiki in 2008,
TJL do you remember why?
All I remember is I traded my OpenMoko in for a Nokia 3315 and would
rather not think further.

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Re: Wrong date/ time in QtMoko v31 and v32

2011-02-03 Thread Alfa21
2011-01-30@19:00 Daniel MT
 Hey there.
 Every time I restart the system the date/ time is reseted to the epoch
 (using v31 and v32 installed on the sd card). While booting I get
 several suspicious messages like
 RTC_RD_Time: invalid argument
 or
 pcf50633-rtc pcf50633-rtc.0: hctosys: unable to read the hardware clock
 
 I attached the output of dmesg at http://pastebin.com/GUKUrCu6
 
 Any hint?, please.


1) hctosys and any access to the rtc in general is not possible while the 
qtmoko's AT daemon is running... stop qpe and kill it! :)

2) it resets to epoch if you remove the main battery and your backup battery is 
died, but if you do not remove the battery and you have a wrong date at reboot 
you just have to set correctly the rtc (1).

btw I do not understand why the qtmoko's at daemon do not allows the access to 
rtc and I think this is an issue.
I tried also to install the debian version of the at daemon, disabling the 
qtmoko's one (also creating symlinks to the other command), but I've serious 
problems with alarm/clock interface in qtmoko...

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Re: [WikiReader] what's up with Wikitravel?

2011-02-03 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Doug

Yes it would require the new base file. Please let us know what you think!


  -Sean

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Subject: [WikiReader] what's up with Wikitravel?

I just added Wikitravel to my WikiReader.  But it doesn't appear on the 
menu.

Does it require a newer base file?  Perhaps this one?

http://wrmlbeta.s3.amazonaws.com/base-20110106.7z?torrent

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It's not a camera

2011-02-03 Thread Benjamin Deering

http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/index.php?level=albumid=26

After attempting to use a bmp085 as a temperature sensor for my skiwax 
program (http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/wax/) and not getting good 
results (at least partially due to thermal leakage through the i2c 
wires), I added a mlx90614 to my freerunner.  It is an infrared 
thermometer with a temperature range of -70C to 380C.  It reacts quickly 
to changes in temperature and sort of fits in the freerunner case. 
Installation is similar to the Freerunner Navigation Board install. 
Christoph Mair has written a kernel module for it.  The module is on 
gitorious, but is not yet available upstream.


There is a similar part called a mlx90615 which is much smaller, but 
also has a smaller temperature range.  It may not work with the current 
kernel module, but could probably work with small changes.




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