Re: qtmoko v33

2011-03-07 Thread giacomo 'giotti' mariani

On 03/05/2011 18:20, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote:

* removed package vim-tiny from v33 .tgz, please re-add it as default;)
  
  Hmm i am trying to keep the image as small as possible. I'd rather prefer if

  people could install they favourite apps with apt-get.

I agree, but I think vi/vim is quite a basic tool in any distribution.
I'd remove nano instead, not so common as vi is.
btw, nano is 1786kB, vim-tiny is 1114kB;)



+1 :-)

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Re: [QtMoko] faenqomod updated

2011-03-07 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi Radek,

On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:52:46 +0100, Radek Polak wrote
 Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
 
  * I guess the bg images could be resized to get smaller
 
 Patches welcome :)

Please take a look at http://tiagovaz.org/archive/0001-Updated-faenqomod-
replace-png-backgrounds-to-jpeg-wi.patch

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Re: [QtMoko] faenqomod updated

2011-03-07 Thread Gennady Kupava
В Пнд, 07/03/2011 в 13:47 -0200, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz пишет:
 Hi Radek,
 
 On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:52:46 +0100, Radek Polak wrote
  Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
  
   * I guess the bg images could be resized to get smaller
  
  Patches welcome :)
 
 Please take a look at http://tiagovaz.org/archive/0001-Updated-faenqomod-
 replace-png-backgrounds-to-jpeg-wi.patch
 

Very good idea to replace png with jpgs (better to replace all). I know,
png is free and probably better quality, but jpg is so much faster and
more memory efficient, so it worth to investigate if it will be worth
replace all pngs.

gennady.


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Re: qtmoko v33

2011-03-07 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:01:20 +0100, giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote
 On 03/05/2011 18:20, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote:
  * removed package vim-tiny from v33 .tgz, please re-add it as default;)

Hmm i am trying to keep the image as small as possible. I'd rather 
prefer if
people could install they favourite apps with apt-get.
  I agree, but I think vi/vim is quite a basic tool in any distribution.
  I'd remove nano instead, not so common as vi is.
  btw, nano is 1786kB, vim-tiny is 1114kB;)
 
 
 +1 :-)

+1 for vim-tiny, but being honest, there's also nano-tiny package which is the 
sized-winner here :)

neo:~# apt-cache show vim-tiny nano-tiny |grep ^Installed
Installed-Size: 724
Installed-Size: 168

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Re: getty optimization, 3MB ram free and 6 running process less

2011-03-07 Thread Radek Polak
Alfa21 wrote:

 hi community
 
 I see in /etc/inittab we usually spawn 6 getty:
 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
 
 I think we can comment out them all to free 3MB of ram and to have less
 running useless programs. on my phone I've no tty active: I login only
 from ssh or from gui. (obviously virtual terminal is not affected by this
 change)

Change as you suggest is commited now. Will be available in next version. I 
have script for manual activation. It's also called when you switch to USB 
host mode.

Thanks

Radek

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Re: [QtMoko] faenqomod updated

2011-03-07 Thread Radek Polak
Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:

 Please take a look at http://tiagovaz.org/archive/0001-Updated-faenqomod-
 replace-png-backgrounds-to-jpeg-wi.patch
 
 Regards,

Nice, i have commited it in git and updated packages, they went from 8MB to 
1.4MB and 2.6MB.

Thanks!

Radek

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Re: qtmoko v33

2011-03-07 Thread Ole Carlsen

Den 07-03-2011 11:01, giacomo 'giotti' mariani skrev:

On 03/05/2011 18:20, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote:

* removed package vim-tiny from v33 .tgz, please re-add it as default;)

  Hmm i am trying to keep the image as small as possible. I'd
rather prefer if
 people could install they favourite apps with apt-get.

I agree, but I think vi/vim is quite a basic tool in any distribution.
I'd remove nano instead, not so common as vi is.
btw, nano is 1786kB, vim-tiny is 1114kB;)



+1 :-)

I always go for mc and purge whatever text editor that is installed as 
default but maybe we each have different needs!! :-)


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qtmoko theme and answer usability

2011-03-07 Thread Alfa21
hi qtmoko theme designers,
some month ago someone said there is a theme with a slider for the answer/busy 
actions... can you point me out which is? (I do not remember the name and where 
I can download it)
tia!
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Re: [QtMoko] faenqomod updated

2011-03-07 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:47:37 +0100, Radek Polak wrote
 Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
 
  Please take a look at http://tiagovaz.org/archive/0001-Updated-faenqomod-
  replace-png-backgrounds-to-jpeg-wi.patch
  
  Regards,
 
 Nice, i have commited it in git and updated packages, they went from 
 8MB to 
 1.4MB and 2.6MB.

Great! Please one more:

http://tiagovaz.org/archive/0001-Faenqo-add-DebianGold-background.patch

This add that nice Debian gold background now adjusted to not remain behind 
the main screen icons. Also converted to jpg.

Upstream, please merge! :)

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messages through background [was Re: qtmoko v33]

2011-03-07 Thread Alfa21
2011-03-05@17:14 Alfa21

   * visible kernel messages through the graphic desktop of qtmoko  
  
  Kernel should not print anything except serious errors. That should be 
  fixed in 
  kernel instead. Do you know which message did you see?  
 
 it's the console output, not only kernel messages, sorry.
 in v31 for example I was able to see messages about wifi connection/dhcp

again on this topic: I can see painted over the background image ^@ for each 
time I press the AUX button


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[cutemaze] on [qtmoko 33] howto control moves?

2011-03-07 Thread Alfa21
hi,
I've installed cutemaze on my qtmoko33 from the apps web page.

someone can explain me how to control my direction in the game, pls?

what's the binding of up/down/left/right/space?
...no touchscreen, no accelerometers...

tia!
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OpenMobile.nl Image?

2011-03-07 Thread Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE)
How out of date is the OpenMobile.nl image listed here?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtMoko#OpenMobile.nl_Download
 
Is it possible to apt-get update from this image? 
 
As I no longer have any Linux boxes, except my FreeRunner, this is the
least painful way to try qtmoko, but I would prefer a more up-to-date
version.
Any change of OpenMobile.nl updating it's image?
 
ATM, I'm still running H:1, but it's getting rather out-of-date and I've
moved to a Droid Incredible for my daily phone as my daughter got a free
upgrade on her unlimited service plan.
I.E., I'm free to play with my FreeRunner without having to worry so
much about occasional breakages (-=
 
Cheers,
 
John Gay
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Re: [QtMoko] faenqomod updated

2011-03-07 Thread Francesco De Vita
Wow ,how much work :)
I'll try to replace some icons with jpeg and see how qtmoko handles the
resizing of them and if it changes something (probably not :) )

Regards
Joif
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[Faenqo theme] date/time

2011-03-07 Thread Alfa21

hi Cyberspirit,
I like your faenqo theme and I've adopted it for my freerunner because with the 
small footprint of the head-bar I've more usable screen space.

the only drawback I can find is the position of the date and time... can you 
please move them near the charge indicator?

otherwise it's not possible to see them while an application is running, eg: 
arora or any other.


kind regards


ps: actually I like the just 3 buttons solution (also because now I've 
configured the autolock on suspend feature) and the ability to see the battery 
level also while it's charging, instead of a blinking christmas tree with no 
information ;)

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