Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02
Op 17-dec.-2011, om 20:51 heeft fdvj...@vodafone.it het volgende geschreven: Il 11/12/2011 17:51, Radek Polak ha scritto: Any other ideas for cool qt apps that you would like on QtMoko? A better and lightweight picture-viewer, like ristretto or viewnior or something similar. Joif Maybe orrery ? i use that app often and it's sorely missed on qtmoko ! thanks for everything! m00r1z ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: uSD corruption (OT?)
Boudewijn a écrit , Le 17/12/2011 23:44: You are probably familiar with/aware of linux-mtd at infradead.org. Part of their FAQ made me suspect optimizations for FAT or parts of the spec left out of the flash translation layer giving problems with anything but FAT [1]: (...) we suspect that vendors may user various tricks or compromises to keep their devices good enough and cheap. For example, it is known that some vendors optimize their FTL devices for FAT, and if you start using ext3 on top of one, you might face some unexpected problems (...) Not very constructive either :-( But a good read if you didn't after all ;-) Boudewijn [1] Missing link :) Here is another one [0] _g. [0] https://lwn.net/Articles/428584/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: uSD corruption (OT?)
On Sunday 18 December 2011 09:39:10 Gilles Filippini wrote: Boudewijn a écrit , Le 17/12/2011 23:44: You are probably familiar with/aware of linux-mtd at infradead.org. Part of their FAQ made me suspect optimizations for FAT or parts of the spec left out of the flash translation layer giving problems with anything but FAT [1]: (...) we suspect that vendors may user various tricks or compromises to keep their devices good enough and cheap. For example, it is known that some vendors optimize their FTL devices for FAT, and if you start using ext3 on top of one, you might face some unexpected problems (...) Not very constructive either :-( But a good read if you didn't after all ;-) Boudewijn [1] Missing link :) Hmmm.. The forgot attachment?-plugin does not cover links ;-) http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubifs.html#L_raw_vs_ftl Here is another one [0] _g. [0] https://lwn.net/Articles/428584/ From the intro: In contrast, the more common SD cards and USB flash drives are very sensitive to specific access patterns and can show very high latencies for writes unless they are used with the preformatted FAT32 file layout. Thanks! Boudewijn smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02
Is it possible to port Apps from Android to QtMoko? I'm very interested in apps for geocaching like c:geo. Regards Frank ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02
It would be very nice to have foxtrotGPS :) thanks! davide On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Frank openm...@fober.org wrote: Is it possible to port Apps from Android to QtMoko? I'm very interested in apps for geocaching like c:geo. Regards Frank ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit for QtMoko
2011/12/16 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz: On Friday 16 December 2011 14:21:31 Patryk Benderz wrote: Dnia 2011-12-15, czw o godzinie 16:00 +0100, Radek Polak pisze: Hi, also navit is now ported to qtmoko. Did you ported it or was it someone else? Does it still use X server? Anyway big thanks to those who did it. Navit was the most lacking app for me on QtMoko. I have ported it - it was quite easy. It does not use X server. I uses qt painter that is drawing to framebuffer as all other qtmoko apps. A really big thanks for this. Navit seems much more reactive on qtmoko than on SHR. But, the topic seems to need some more work for a better integration. When I start navit, nothing occurs on GPS device part: nor power on, nor GPSd launch. Did I missed something? Currently I imagine the following solutions: - use a script shell wrapper around navit to activate device, start gpsd and fire navit (and undo all these when navit terminate) - insert some specific code in navit for qtmoko, like NeronGPS does (directly power on or off from code via /sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gps.0/power_on) This topic brings me an other question: what design for GPS related tools? Raw device (like NeronGPS) or GPSd (like currently pre-configured navit-qtmoko)? Note: I'm still using qtMoko v35. -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Error sending SMS (GTA02])
On Saturday 17 December 2011 22:44:36 Bernie Schelberg wrote: Hi, About two weeks ago, my GTA02 stopped sending SMS messages. I was running QtMoko v35 at the time, on a Kingston uSD card. Running dmesg while trying to send messages revealed this error: [ 4171.93] mmc0:0001: error -110 reading SDIO_CCCR_INTx Thinking that my uSD card had failed (I'd had it for just over a year), I bought another one (A-Ram), set up a fresh install of QtMoko, upgraded to v37, tried to send another message, and see the same error in dmesg. At this point I'm assuming it's not a fault of the uSD card. Is it hardware? There doesn't seem to be any problem writing to the uSD card... On fail of sending message, the message is moved into Drafts, which works nicely. Is it a problem with my SIM card? It's only about 5 months old. Are there any other logs I can look at to find out what's happening? Is this something I can fix in the software, or should I just get another phone for use until the GTA04 is released? Hi, have you tried running QtMoko from NAND? You can try various Settings- Logging-Categories and check /var/log/messages if something interesting shows up. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit for QtMoko
On Sunday 18 December 2011 14:12:45 Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: But, the topic seems to need some more work for a better integration. When I start navit, nothing occurs on GPS device part: nor power on, nor GPSd launch. Did I missed something? Currently I imagine the following solutions: - use a script shell wrapper around navit to activate device, start gpsd and fire navit (and undo all these when navit terminate) - insert some specific code in navit for qtmoko, like NeronGPS does (directly power on or off from code via /sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gps.0/power_on) This topic brings me an other question: what design for GPS related tools? Raw device (like NeronGPS) or GPSd (like currently pre-configured navit-qtmoko)? I think you can configure gpsd to automatically run script which is executed when client program connects. It could be e.g. /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh I havent played with gpsd very much yet. I think i will not work on this until i have case for mine GTA02, because i cant test it now... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FR UMTS
Hello, For my netbook I use an USB stick to connect via UMTS to Internet; ATI2 says about itself: Manufacturer: huawei Model: E1750 Revision: 11.126.08.01.00 The FreeBSD u3g driver presents it as a device /dev/cuaU0.0 and one can chat to it with AT cmds or do PPP. Works for years now as it should. Before buying an USB interface changer from the USB-big to USB-small, will the (SHR) Linux kernel in the FR, bring up a serial device too? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11 | UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2 | FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR UMTS
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: Before buying an USB interface changer from the USB-big to USB-small, will the (SHR) Linux kernel in the FR, bring up a serial device too? three serial devices usually. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WebOS for GTA04?
Hello Nikolaus, hello list, sorry for beeing upsent for other than 1 year, but I got much to do (working, learning, marrying, ...) As far for that, the working part may be important here. I am not owning a GTA04 but I am working for HP Germany in Ratingen. If there is anything I can do (talking with developers etc.) than tell me. Greetings Serdar On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:39:33 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: After HP announced to open source WebOS I wonder what we need to get it onto a GTA04 device? And is there already a clear picture how completely the source will be opened? Under which licence? And which limitations? Which timeframe? Questions over questions... Let's discuss answers... Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:01, Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote: [cut] Here, I want to add that a friendly enthusiast (who wants to stay anonymous) has spent close to 1 EUR to support the project. He just believes in the idea of an open moko. Thank you anonymous enthusiast, your are spending your money wisely:) +1 +1 Thank you very much for supporting our dream! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Navit for QT Moko
Hi Radek, this are great news with gpsd. I have never got it working with X. Do you want to release a QT moko 38 version for NAND. Using the freerunner as a full navigation system would be great :). Since you have probably the GTA04 board inside your freerunner, can you power it without the case? Or paste some should work code to power on the gpsd deamon with navit, so other can try (and maybe fix) it. Greetings Rashid ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QtMoko UBIFS problem
Hello, I can't boot QtMoko v36 fom NAND. Here is the screen of kernel panic. http://file.qip.ru/photo/NTlrXV05/uboot_gena2x-qtmoko_v36-kernel.html Actually my problem started long time ago. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-December/063993.html Some early UBI QtMoko versions worked OK. Then I tried SHR and Debian. After that no UBI image boots. Now my FR is a good platform to test UBIFS improvements :). Thanks for any ideas. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Replicant for GTA04? (Was WebOS for GTA04?)
After HP announced to open source WebOS I wonder what we need to get it onto a GTA04 device? And is there already a clear picture how completely the source will be opened? Under which licence? And which limitations? Which timeframe? Questions over questions... Let's discuss answers... Why not porting Replicant to it too? Replicant is a fully free android version: * The non-free low level libraries are replaced by free equivalents * The market is replaced by FDroid When I was involved in it we freed some devices like the htc dream and the nexus one but we then realized that the devices themselves were the problem: The modem in theses device had too much power(it controlled the sound card, the GPS and could read/write on RAM of the main CPU). So then the current main developer ported the nexus S to it which is way better: * The audio codec is attached to the main CPU * the GPS is attached to the main CPU * The modem can't read/write the RAM of the main CPU and cannot read/write the NAND either however it suffer from a proprietary and partially signed bootloader. The GTA04 has none of theses freedom problems... Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02
2011/12/18 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com: It would be very nice to have foxtrotGPS :) +10 thanks! davide On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Frank openm...@fober.org wrote: Is it possible to port Apps from Android to QtMoko? I'm very interested in apps for geocaching like c:geo. Regards Frank ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit for QT Moko
On Sunday 18 December 2011 19:20:03 Rashid wrote: Hi Radek, this are great news with gpsd. I have never got it working with X. Do you want to release a QT moko 38 version for NAND. Using the freerunner as a full navigation system would be great :). Since you have probably the GTA04 board inside your freerunner, can you power it without the case? Or paste some should work code to power on the gpsd deamon with navit, so other can try (and maybe fix) it. Hi, if all goes right i will have new Freerunner donated to me by Christ van Willegen. I will try to make navit working with GPS out of the box and do v38 when it's done. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02
Hi Radek, On Sun, 2011-12-11 at 16:51 +, Radek Polak wrote: Hi, after a small delay i am happy to announce QtMoko v37 also for Freerunner. I have just rebuild the debian package for this release. You can find it here [1], but apt-get update apt-get upgrade from v35 should work too. I have not tested the release at all, because my Freerunner is currently disassembled and is waiting for new case, so please take when upgrading to v37. Here is list of changes since v36: [...] Thanks! Any other ideas for cool qt apps that you would like on QtMoko? I'd like to see a voip client working for qtmoko. I've tested yate-qt4 (http://packages.debian.org/sid/yate-qt4) and it seems to work well. I'm a bit confused about where I should report issues for qtmoko. There's a bug tracking system in github with 2 closed issues. There's a more active one available at sf.net. Also, it would be nice if the project had an open wikipage for such things (e.g. a wishlist of apps to be ported and their current status). What do you think about migrating all the stuff to github? I'm here to help you on this, including migrating issues, wiki contents and doing some QA work. Best regards, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko UBIFS problem
On Sunday 18 December 2011 22:49:00 Ivan Matveev wrote: Hello, I can't boot QtMoko v36 fom NAND. Here is the screen of kernel panic. http://file.qip.ru/photo/NTlrXV05/uboot_gena2x-qtmoko_v36-kernel.html This is well known problem. V36 is just experiment ;-) Actually my problem started long time ago. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-December/063993.html Some early UBI QtMoko versions worked OK. Then I tried SHR and Debian. After that no UBI image boots. Now my FR is a good platform to test UBIFS improvements :). Thanks for any ideas. Have you tried v35? I UBIFS in this version should work - i have tested it on my FR and IIRC nobody else had any problems with it. Also please make sure to use qi-v35.udfu. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko UBIFS problem
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:49:00 +0300 Ivan Matveev imatvee...@nm.ru wrote: Hello, I can't boot QtMoko v36 fom NAND. Here is the screen of kernel panic. http://file.qip.ru/photo/NTlrXV05/uboot_gena2x-qtmoko_v36-kernel.html This probably won't be too helpful since I'm not using ubifs but I've experienced a couple of kernel panics recently. Albeit with far less verbose results than yours, perhaps ubifs is more verbose(?), but I get similar results as in not being able to mount the FS; jffs2 on NAND(qtmoko v31) and ext3 on sd(AoF Froyo [ran sd card build]). I blame that particular sd card for the AoF failure since it's the original that shipped with the phone and this isn't the first time it's given me trouble. I was at least able to backup what was left of the data after attempting to repair the FS. It booted afterwards but too much was missing to make it usable. It's been quite frustrating dealing with the NAND failure as I loved that install (~1yr old) and spent quite a bit of time tweaking it. So far I can't figure out a way to copy what's left of the data I haven't backed up. Even after using the latest dfu-util, compiled from source, uploading from the phone to another machine is *sigh* still broken. Using neocon via the U-boot prompt hasn't been too much help either (great tool though). There apparently are bad blocks on NAND but only 4 if I recall correctly. I copied that session to another box so I can't share the info from it right now. Perhaps you might fare better checking your NAND partitions. Actually my problem started long time ago. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-December/063993.html Some early UBI QtMoko versions worked OK. Then I tried SHR and Debian. After that no UBI image boots. Now my FR is a good platform to test UBIFS improvements :). Thanks for any ideas. I apologize for not having any good advice. Perhaps Radek could see fit to adding checksums for the releases/packages so we could at least rule out bad files. Good Luck, Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit for QT Moko
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:51:26 + Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: brevity Hi, if all goes right i will have new Freerunner donated to me by Christ van Willegen. I will try to make navit working with GPS out of the box and do v38 when it's done. Regards Radek You sir, deserve the highest praise for your efforts to keep a forlorn hardware platform from perpetual stagnation. I'm pretty tapped right now for cash and you would have to pry my Neo-FR from my dead cold hands before I gave it up but I would have gifted you a case or a new one if I could have. Happy Holidays, Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit for QT Moko
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:18:43 -0500 Brian bn...@rochester.rr.com wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:51:26 + Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: brevity Hi, if all goes right i will have new Freerunner donated to me by Christ van Willegen. I'm such an IDIOT, I forogt to thank our benefactor! Thank you Christ Van Willigen!!! Sincerly, Brian I will try to make navit working with GPS out of the box and do v38 when it's done. Regards Radek You sir, deserve the highest praise for your efforts to keep a forlorn hardware platform from perpetual stagnation. I'm pretty tapped right now for cash and you would have to pry my Neo-FR from my dead cold hands before I gave it up but I would have gifted you a case or a new one if I could have. Happy Holidays, Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko UBIFS problem
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:58:38 + Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Sunday 18 December 2011 22:49:00 Ivan Matveev wrote: Hello, I can't boot QtMoko v36 fom NAND. Here is the screen of kernel panic. http://file.qip.ru/photo/NTlrXV05/uboot_gena2x-qtmoko_v36-kernel.html This is well known problem. V36 is just experiment ;-) Actually my problem started long time ago. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2010-December/063993.html Some early UBI QtMoko versions worked OK. Then I tried SHR and Debian. After that no UBI image boots. Now my FR is a good platform to test UBIFS improvements :). Thanks for any ideas. Have you tried v35? I UBIFS in this version should work - i have tested it on my FR and IIRC nobody else had any problems with it. Also please make sure to use qi-v35.udfu. Regards Radek Radek, Can you please add some checksums for releases? I'll be happy to mirror them all if you provide checksums and links to all the previous releases and apps as SourceForge doesn't have them all available. Without checksums I can still mirror what I have but they will always be suspect because of a lack of checksums. If you're happy to do this I'll gladly post to the list where they are mirrored. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replicant for GTA04? (Was WebOS for GTA04?)
Am 18.12.2011 um 23:25 schrieb Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli: After HP announced to open source WebOS I wonder what we need to get it onto a GTA04 device? And is there already a clear picture how completely the source will be opened? Under which licence? And which limitations? Which timeframe? Questions over questions... Let's discuss answers... Why not porting Replicant to it too? Yes there is a lot of room for multiple OS ports for the GTA04. Replicant is a fully free android version: * The non-free low level libraries are replaced by free equivalents * The market is replaced by FDroid A good starting point could also be the Rowboat project which aims at porting Android to TI OMAP systems: http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/ On this list I find e.g. Android 4.0 for BeagleBoard XM. As usual the best way could be to mix both... Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: Hi, please wait some time for new version, there are some major changes, that make current release not compatible. I'm working on coastlines generation and it seems to be a little complicated. Is there some public repository where we can see the development and send patches against? Do you have any estimate when new version will be finished or do you have patch for older version to support newer gpsd-2.96? There is few API changes: | mgps.cc: In function 'void mgps_process(gps_data_t*, char*, size_t, int)': | mgps.cc:73:35: error: 'struct gps_fix_t' has no member named 'eph' | mgps.cc:91:34: error: 'struct gps_fix_t' has no member named 'eph' | mgps.cc:113:19: error: 'struct gps_data_t' has no member named 'satellites' | mgps.cc:121:21: error: 'struct gps_data_t' has no member named 'satellites' | mgps.cc:121:66: error: 'struct gps_data_t' has no member named 'satellites' | mgps.cc: In function 'void* mgps_thread(void*)': | mgps.cc:161:44: error: 'gps_set_raw_hook' was not declared in this scope | mgps.cc:166:36: error: 'gps_query' was not declared in this scope | mgps.cc:180:26: error: 'gps_poll' was not declared in this scope | mgps.cc: In function 'mgpsdata* mgps_init()': | mgps.cc:194:60: error: too few arguments to function 'int gps_open(const char*, const char*, gps_data_t*)' | /OE/shr-core/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/nokia900/usr/include/gps.h:1430:12: note: declared here Cheers, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
