Re: [SOLVED] Re: Corrupt database OR How to get back applications without reinstallation
On Sunday, March 31, 2013 11:09:33 PM Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: Am 31.03.2013 22:17, schrieb Christ van Willegen: On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Sebastian Reinhardt s...@lmv-hartmannsdorf.de wrote: Found the solution: installing only one app of group games (i.e. chess) and one application (i.e. qtgps), rescans the list and all shortcuts/ symbols were shown again.Thanks Good! Great to see you have everything back! Christ van Willegen Yes, good news, but I think there should be an better way to start rescanning/ rebuilding the database. Somthing like rpm --rebuild (I know it is debian or better Qt should have a rebuild option) should be integrated in the creation of a new database! Not sure if possible.. You can do this (copied from qgcide.deb postinst action): # rescan .desktop files so that we appear on the list . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env qcop QPE/DocAPI 'scanPath(QString,int)' /opt/qtmoko/apps/Applications 1 Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM not ready(solved/closed)
On Friday, March 29, 2013 02:09:49 PM joerg Reisenweber wrote: On Fri 29 March 2013 13:58:17 Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: ... So only one dream is left: - a GTA04 with Qtmoko, incl. usable camera/ photo app - ALU-case with display cover (Nicolaus please discuss it with Radek, ref. my last mail, maybe we should discuss this in public?) You don't want an ALU case, unless you prefer old style pull-out antenna like that one: http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00573/Nokia2110_573233a.jpg Even that will not really help for BT and WLAN and NFC and FM-radio and... I can confirm that in our ALU case [1] radio signals were very poor. Maybe it would be possible to split the case into separate parts with dielectric between them and use the parts as antennas. I think iPhone or HTC phones do it this way. But it has not been tested yet. Regards Radek [1] https://picasaweb.google.com/114961040002008630266/GTA04AluCase?noredirect=1# ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIM not ready(solved/closed)
On Friday, March 29, 2013 01:58:17 PM Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: So only one dream is left: - a GTA04 with Qtmoko, incl. usable camera/ photo app The photo app in QtMoko is more like demo. I think we could port some nice desktop Qt app for photos to qtmoko. - speaking navit, Latest navit for qtmoko should be speaking, but i havent tested this yet. - working bluetooth headset (NOLAN motorcycle helmet with N-COM this one: http://www.n-com.it/site/index.php?option=com_contentview=categorylayout= blogid=55Itemid=228lang=debrandid=1lang=enbrandid=1 I can connect but can not make calls/ listen music/ navit speech output) I tried A2DP with my Jabra BT phones and it worked - at least on some older version. So music/navit speech could work. I havent even tried to make GSM calls working yet... - working bluetooth Virtual Laser Keyboard (I can connect, but no key press is recognized) - for next hardware devel.: integration of DECT = so I can connect to our fixed wireless phone station and maybe, LTE? .and some other things :-) It should not be hard to make BT keyboard working. I have one at home for 1 year now, but didnt get time to play with it yet.. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wish list WAS:Re: SIM not ready(solved/closed)
On Friday, March 29, 2013 02:34:13 PM Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: About my wish list: everybody is free to complete it. I like to get back the hand writing input, too and many other things. I think we need good touchscreen filters first. I wanted to make video how the GTA04 touchscreen driver works comparing it to Freerunner and N900. You can try yourself paint something with finger (not fingernail) and you'll realize that while it works 100% perfectly on Freerunner/QtMoko v26, nearly perfectly on N900 or Freerunner/2.6.34 kernel it's nearly impossible on GTA04. I have played a little with tslib, but without any good results. Maybe it would be best to port touchscreen filters used on Freerunner 2.6.28 kernel - they work really good. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: UMTS frequencies on GTA04
Am 31.03.2013 um 14:33 schrieb thomasg: On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I've just got a new SIM card for a specific network. It says Your device must be compatible with UMTS 850 and 2100 to take full advantage I can't find any documentation about UMTS frequencies on the GTA04. Can someone advise me? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community The modem used in the GTA04 is the Option GTM601W, which is a Quadband-GSM and Quadband-UMTS device. For UMTS, it fully supports Bands 1 (which is 2100 MHz) and Band 5 (which is 850 MHz), so it should support both bands your provider likely uses. As there doesn't seem to be any official public information about the device anymore, here's a link to a 3rd party detail list: http://m2msupport.net/m2msupport/option-gtm601w-hsdpa-3g-module/ Here is the official info: http://www.option.com/product/embedded-solutions/specifications ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wish list WAS:Re: SIM not ready(solved/closed)
Hi all, Le 29.03.2013 23:29, Liz a écrit : On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:34:13 +0100 Sebastian Reinhardt s...@lmv-hartmannsdorf.de wrote: So only one dream is left: [...] - contact/ task/ calender- sync. with Thunderbird/Lightning under Linux If you have a Google account you can install ics2openmoko to synchronize Google Calendar and Google Task with your Openmoko with Qtmoko installed. Matteo I know this sync capability. But there is no need to give Google these data, too! They know too much, already! I'm using ownCloud, but not with openmoko. That's just because I haven't actually trialled it yet. This application is named (that's not really a name...), because it takes ics files and push them into qtmoko database. So, it should work with every calendar servers which provides ICS files to read calendars (personally, I use it with my DaviCal server). I want to stress too, that this application doesn't sync your calendars, but just take them from the net and display them in QtMoko calendar. I'm not working with syncing tool, because I don't really need it and because there's already a Sync with google calendar option in the QtMoko calendar code (I didn't have time to read this part of code to see if it depends on google API or on Ical RFC). I'm working on a GUI to save configurations and to call the script easier. I've some code right now, it works but it's really experimental : I don't use correctly QProcess to call perl scripts and so it doesn't work with actual ics2qtcal version, but I was able to use it once :) You can see work in progress here : https://github.com/Trim/getcal (as you can see I'm learning C++ and Qt with this application, and so the code isn't really well developed) Regards, Adrien ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:22:39 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: So we unfortunately have to postpone the production of GTA04A5 boards, until someone manages to create more demand. This is a little sad, since we now have solved all technological problems and could start production anytime (well the longer we wait the more components will become EOL and have to be substituted). Anyways we will continue to support the existing GTA04A3/A4 by improving the kernel, boot loader etc. If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do Yes I've an idea and I'll continue to work on it really soon: Port Replicant to that phone. The current status is that I've a 3.8 kernel booting on it with display, input, wakelocks etc(the android stuff)... So far adb makes the kernel null pointers at shutdown. Also It's highly untested... Before we couldn't even get it booting correctly under replicant 4.0: or there were some interrupt issue, or there were some touchscreen isue(that I solved in that 3.8 kernel). Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:58:10 +0100 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: I think there might be interest in encrypted GSM calls - those customers would be not worried by big price. It's just matter of implementing SW for it. There are several solutions for that but using plain GSM won't work because of the TRAU(Transcoder and Rate Adaptation Unit) in the GSM network. Using data calls directly would be too expensive... So the best solution is to use encrypted SIP over the internet(like trough a 3G connection) possibly over a VPN(because some providers prevent SIP to go trough their networks). Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards
On Tue 02 April 2013 22:42:36 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:58:10 +0100 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: I think there might be interest in encrypted GSM calls - those customers would be not worried by big price. It's just matter of implementing SW for it. There are several solutions for that but using plain GSM won't work because of the TRAU(Transcoder and Rate Adaptation Unit) in the GSM network. Using data calls directly would be too expensive... So the best solution is to use encrypted SIP over the internet(like trough a 3G connection) possibly over a VPN(because some providers prevent SIP to go trough their networks). Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community GPRS CSD data calls are not necessarily expensive, just incredibly hard to find nowadays. No carrier offers them anymore, and even most modems don't support it. /j -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Take a look at these stupid people...
They said: There is no fair smartphone on market, so we have to invent it Nothing about GTA04 or OpenMoko! Stupid people! A new example for bad journalism... FairPhone on arte (here I have seen it first): http://wp.arte.tv/yourope-de/?p=8490 The site: http://www.fairphone.com/ -- Regards Sebastian Reinhardt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Take a look at these stupid people...
On Wed 03 April 2013 02:04:32 Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: They said: There is no fair smartphone on market, so we have to invent it Nothing about GTA04 or OpenMoko! Stupid people! A new example for bad journalism... FairPhone on arte (here I have seen it first): http://wp.arte.tv/yourope-de/?p=8490 The site: http://www.fairphone.com/ ARTE is dull enough to not be able to create a viewable video stream on a i5 PC with a 2Mbit/s downlink, to display a cigbox size display on a 24 screen. What need I say more /j -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fairphone: source code(cad?) repository?
I changed the subject.. This is quite an interesting endeavor.. I'm hoping the fairphone group will engage the OpenMoko community as well as other open source hardware groups. I would like to see Fairphone start by sponsoring making CAD drawings for the OpenMoko Freerunner cases in OpenSCAD or Free-cad, and then making new molds. My advice to the fairphone group is approach the problem from multiple areas: First, get a mostly standard android phone that comes rooted from the factory, But at the same time push on a 100% AGPLv3 licensed phone, from case, to PCB, to silicon for ALL the asics in the phone, from processor (there are several open source CPUS available 'off the shelf), to GPU (the OpenShader project is starting to get some traction), and then the GSM radio itself. An interesting halfway point might be a developer/maker phone that has a display, and a multi-band software-defined-radio frontend that runs the GSM/wifi/bluetooth connections, as well as the core CPU on a big FPGA. On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 02:04:32AM +0200, Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: They said: There is no fair smartphone on market, so we have to invent it Nothing about GTA04 or OpenMoko! Stupid people! A new example for bad journalism... FairPhone on arte (here I have seen it first): http://wp.arte.tv/yourope-de/?p=8490 The site: http://www.fairphone.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Take a look at these stupid people...
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: They said: There is no fair smartphone on market, so we have to invent it Nothing about GTA04 or OpenMoko! Stupid people! A new example for bad journalism... It probably isn't a good idea to start calling potential allies stupid, especially on twitter and thus on their website. If you read their website, they are less about software freedom and more about not contributing to civil war, genocide, environmental destruction etc by buying minerals from warlords mined using slavery-like conditions with zero consideration for the environment. http://www.fairphone.com/about/ http://www.fairphone.com/faq/#q1 http://www.fairphone.com/faq/#q6 To me, the OpenMoko community seemed to be by geeks, for geeks. That the Fairphone folks haven't heard about OpenMoko/OpenPhoenux says more about the publicity and outreach done by our community than about the Fairphone people. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think OpenMoko Inc scrutinized (or had the resources to) their supply chain for conflict minerals, poor working conditions or environmental destruction either. Not sure about Goldelico, it would be interesting to hear about this. There is a potential partnership here, I'd encourage Goldelico to make some connections. FairPhone on arte (here I have seen it first): http://wp.arte.tv/yourope-de/?p=8490 Could someone do an English transcription of that? -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Take a look at these stupid people...
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 10:16:20 +0800 Paul Wise pa...@bonedaddy.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: They said: There is no fair smartphone on market, so we have to invent it Nothing about GTA04 or OpenMoko! Stupid people! A new example for bad journalism... It probably isn't a good idea to start calling potential allies stupid, especially on twitter and thus on their website. If you read their website, they are less about software freedom and more about not contributing to civil war, genocide, environmental destruction etc by buying minerals from warlords mined using slavery-like conditions with zero consideration for the environment. http://www.fairphone.com/about/ http://www.fairphone.com/faq/#q1 http://www.fairphone.com/faq/#q6 To me, the OpenMoko community seemed to be by geeks, for geeks. That the Fairphone folks haven't heard about OpenMoko/OpenPhoenux says more about the publicity and outreach done by our community than about the Fairphone people. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think OpenMoko Inc scrutinized (or had the resources to) their supply chain for conflict minerals, poor working conditions or environmental destruction either. Not sure about Goldelico, it would be interesting to hear about this. There is a potential partnership here, I'd encourage Goldelico to make some connections. FairPhone on arte (here I have seen it first): http://wp.arte.tv/yourope-de/?p=8490 Could someone do an English transcription of that? Well Said Paul. B ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Take a look at these stupid people...
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 10:16:20AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: They said: There is no fair smartphone on market, so we have to invent it Nothing about GTA04 or OpenMoko! Stupid people! A new example for bad journalism... It probably isn't a good idea to start calling potential allies stupid, especially on twitter and thus on their website. If you read their website, they are less about software freedom and more about not contributing to civil war, genocide, environmental destruction etc by buying minerals from warlords mined using slavery-like conditions with zero consideration for the environment. http://www.fairphone.com/about/ http://www.fairphone.com/faq/#q1 http://www.fairphone.com/faq/#q6 To me, the OpenMoko community seemed to be by geeks, for geeks. That the Fairphone folks haven't heard about OpenMoko/OpenPhoenux says more about the publicity and outreach done by our community than about the Fairphone people. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think OpenMoko Inc scrutinized (or had the resources to) their supply chain for conflict minerals, poor working conditions or environmental destruction either. Not sure about Goldelico, it would be interesting to hear about this. There is a potential partnership here, I'd encourage Goldelico to make some connections. I think it says quite a bit more about how stupid we've been as geeks to ignore the other social aspects a Libre Hardware (that complies with the Debian Free Software Guidelines.. http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW_draft ) mobile device could make possible. What we all need to get more intelligent about now is how to educate the socially-conscious market out there of the benefits of Libre soft/hardware and how critical it is for the long-term goals of the FairPhone project that the entire design meet the debian free software guidelines. We were about 5-10 years too early for the rest of the world with OpenMoko. Maybe now it's time. -- Troy Benjegerdes'da hozer' ho...@hozed.org Somone asked my why I work on this free (http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/) software hardware (http://q3u.be) stuff and not get a real job. Charles Shultz had the best answer: Why do musicians compose symphonies and poets write poems? They do it because life wouldn't have any meaning for them if they didn't. That's why I draw cartoons. It's my life. -- Charles Shultz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
