Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions
On August 31, 2009 02:58:50 pm Cameron Frazier wrote: I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM. Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this. Any suggestions? Last time I went to Germany I picked up a blau.de SIM card. The rates are reasonable compared to Canadian rates. 2 issues with this are the other countries will have high roaming rates and you need to have someone with a German credit card or bank account get it for you. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2009 Maintainer
Hi All, After some deliberation and input from the community I am going to stop maintaining Om2009. I'm going work on getting paroli to co-exsist in SHR. If you want to try and run paroli in SHR unstable RFN. Flash the latest shr- unstable image. http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ the image from 08-08-09 has a minor problem with opkg. to fix it opkg-cl update opkg-cl upgrade then install paroli opkg install paroli fix the conf files that the paroli installer messes with ( I hope to fix the recipe in the next couple of days. ) cp /etc/old_frameworkd.conf /etc/frameworkd.conf cp /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/old_rules.yaml /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml now if you want to disable the shr phone apps without removing them comment all of the lines out in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89notifier and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ophonekitd if you want the bind-home to ease upgrades add this line to fstab. /media/card/bind-home /home/root nonebind 0 0 You should now have a functional paroli on SHR setup. Once you have a working setup I would advise against doing opkg upgrades and only upgrade specific packages when needed. Thanks Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009
On August 27, 2009 12:53:44 am Ken Young wrote: This should not be interpreted as paroli being abandoned as paroli is in the SHR feeds. I haven't tested it, but getting it to work would be one of my first tasks if it doesn't. paroli has a LOT of fans, and your work on it is greatly appreciated! I'd just like to remind everyone that I'm not the one that put paroli together. Mirko Lindner was the chief architect there and Laszlo Krekacs has been doing a lot of work on it recently. So if anyone deserves thanks for paroli it's those 2. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] (I) messed up alsa
On August 26, 2009 09:13:11 am pike wrote: I *guess* I messed up the alsa-state files permanently. What's the easiest way to revert them back to their original settings ? I was thinking to opkg-remove, opkg-install something ? opkg install -force-reinstall openmoko-alsa-scenarios Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2009
Hi All, I've been encouraged by a couple of persistent community members to post an update to Om2009. First ( other than taking some time off for the summer ) I'll tell you what I've been working on. I've been working on getting the 2.6.30 kernel with openwrt patches running. After a dismal failure earlier in the month I now have a running system. You can download experimental images to see its current state. I believe it is building and running most days. There are two caveats to using the bleeding edge experimental. 1) SD card are failing to mount on occasion. This may be due to patches missed by me or a function of Om2009 versus openwrt booting. 2) fsousaged crashes whenever it gets a suspend message. I've traced it to the point of fso_usage_low_level_suspend getting called with a NULL argument. So for a working phone suspend will need to be disabled for now. I'd like feedback from anyone brave enough to try it. Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009 is a worthy venture or should I move over to SHR and see what help I can be there. This should not be interpreted as paroli being abandoned as paroli is in the SHR feeds. I haven't tested it, but getting it to work would be one of my first tasks if it doesn't. This question also has a caveat. Before the end of the month I will be starting a full time contract which will cut into the time that I will have to devote to Om2009. So if Om2009 does move forward the progress will be slow. Looking forward to your responses Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Unabel to SSH into Neo Freerunner
On August 6, 2009 09:07:40 pm c_c wrote: Hi, I also get the following error :- usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7 usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:0b.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:2a:26 eth1: no IPv6 routers present Something to do with ipv6? No it means it has been allocated eth1 because it has a static MAC address. So any setup you do on the PC side needs to be for eth1 and not usb0 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009t5]No suspend after ffalarms alarm
On August 6, 2009 05:17:25 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I assume every hardware related function should pass through fso. But I would be interested what are the exact steps/commands when a suspend gets initiated, and why suspend duration are about 5 sec and resume about 2-3 sec... The 2 biggest time consumers in suspend and resume are the modem at commands and the vt console switch. By disabling the console switch from the kernel you should save about a second on suspend and resume. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009t5]No suspend after ffalarms alarm
On August 6, 2009 08:45:01 am Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: FWIW, fso-abyss is handling these nasty deep-sleep issues nowadays, in a better way than ogsmd ever did. :M: The next Om2009 testing release will use fso-abyss and fsousaged. If you'd like to try before the next release ( which will be the end of August, earilest ) use tomorrows or 6 days ago unstable. You'll also need to opkg install fso-abyss fsousaged and make some changes to /etc/frameworkd.conf, under [ogsmd] add ti_calypso_muxer = fso-abyss and to the end of the file add [ousaged] disable = 1 [fsousage] [fsousage.controller] Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009t5] fso-abyss on 2009t5? (was: Re: No suspend after ffalarms alarm)
On August 6, 2009 01:26:16 pm Marcel wrote: May I also be successful with that on a 2009t5 install? My sd card is full of data and I don't want to kill the present t5 installation with all the apps... There are quite a few dependencies that probably won't upgrade automatically. You will need to do a lot of hand tweaking to get this to work. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Unabel to SSH into Neo Freerunner
On August 6, 2009 07:38:25 pm tom wrote: im basically having the same, though my machine says: connection refused ideas? Connect refused is a different problem . Can you ping the ip address of the FR? Have you changed the dropbear config on the FR side ? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Unabel to SSH into Neo Freerunner
What does dmesg on the host side tell you when you plug the device in. After the first boot it should show up as ethx. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Commercial alternative to MintyBoost
On August 4, 2009 12:35:12 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! So Im looking to something more professional look, I want to buy between 10 and 30 pieces. So the home-made version is a no-go (no matter how nice electrical-wise). Hey Laszlo, Energizer has the Energi to go series of products. http://www.energizer.com/products/energi-to-go/cell-phone-charger/Pages/cell- battery-charger.aspx Its basically the 2 AA battery power pack with and adapter for many different cell phone versions ( I'm sure I've seen one with a mini USB ). They sell for around $20 here. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: om2009/paroli status
On July 27, 2009 03:04:30 am Adolph J. Vogel wrote: I must admit this whole thread is starting to worry me. I don`t mean to pester but could someone please provide some clarrification on the status of Om2009 / Paroli? Om2009 is moving forward very slowly at the moment. My time is currently very limited for this volunteer project. The current issue I'm trying to solve is WSOD with the 2.6.29-rc2 kernel by jumping to the 2.6.30 kernel. This work is going on in the experimental branch and will be pushed into unstable at some point. If it is a case of not enough man power, It might be good to assemble a list, as mirko suggested, of tasks that still need to be done for a release. Then we can start knocking them down. 3 issues that need solving SIM card full when it's not really full as the messages are stored in the rootfs. Contacts disappearing Display menu is gone. Fixes for these and other problems you may find can be sent as patches, Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using a FreeRunner without cellular service
On July 15, 2009 12:29:06 am Brolin Empey wrote: Hello list, I am planning on buying a FreeRunner. I need to check with my carrier (Speak Out Wireless in Canada) about cellular usage outside of my home area, but I may want to use my FreeRunner without cellular service. Is this possible? Does it work well? Do I have to remove my SIM or can I disable the cellular service without removing the SIM? I do not have a data plan. I guess the FreeRunner should work fine without cellular service since it is more of a handheld computer with phone functionality than only a cell phone, but I have never used any Openmoko phone so I do not know. My Nokia 6103b is actually my first and only cell phone because I have had a cell phone only since 2008, so I am relatively new to cell phones. I am young (0x16, which my dad says means I can drive in Silicon Valley. ;)) and am a computer enthusiast, though, so I can easily learn new computer-related things. Thanks, Brolin The SIM I use for testing is a speakout wireless SIM so there is no problem with getting it to work with them. They have service anywhere in Canada that rogers has service but you will be SOL anywhere else including the states. If you're planning to travel out of Canada it is infinitely cheaper just to buy a SIM card when you arrive at your destination than paying overpriced Canadian rates. This sometimes requires the help of a citizen of the country but usually only requires a credit card. I also regularly use a freerunner as a bike GPS and there are no problems running it without a SIM if you are running an A7. My A5 on the other hand does have GPS issues if it can't get a valid cell signal. If you purchase it new you can chose A6 or A7 , I'd advise the A7. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sms-sentry patch : call me back
On July 15, 2009 02:16:36 am c_c wrote: Hi, Angus Ainslie-2 wrote: You register a known sim with SMS-sentry and if it gets changed the phone sends it's location to a predefined number. Ha ! Neat solution to the problem. Hope you add that soon. I added sms-sentry to github[1] so if anyone wants to send a password patch or SMS change patch that would be great :) I'll try to add an updated recipe to ms5.5 later on. Angus [1] git://github.com/nytowl/sms-sentry.git ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] gsm don't start after opkg update-upgrade
On July 15, 2009 10:11:28 am Previdi Roberto wrote: thank you very much, this worked percfectly! How can i know the complete list of configuration files wich i should not update on updates? Unless specified in the release notes you should not install new versions of : /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml /etc/frameworkd.conf You should always do a diff to try and see what is changing so if you make the wrong choice you can try to undo it. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] gsm don't start after opkg update-upgrade
On July 14, 2009 07:15:13 am Previdi Roberto wrote: hello list. I updated my OM2009 installation (3-4 days old) with opkg update - opkg upgrade. After having accepted the new config files and rebooted the gsm service cannot start anymore. Please post /etc/frameworkd.conf and /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml . For Om2009 it is best not to choose the package maintianers version of those files and keep the ones you have installed. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sms-sentry patch : call me back
On July 14, 2009 06:43:43 am Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote: Wow! Very impressive! So it'll be very easy to track you Frerunner back. Just add call to some script to silently report GPS location by SMS or (ab)using GRPS connection. And AFAIR it was heavily requested feature some time ago (considering SIM wasn't replaced yet). I've been thinking of adding that to the code. You register a known sim with SMS-sentry and if it gets changed the phone sends it's location to a predefined number. Now you not only have the location of the borrower but also their phone number :) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] modules files with wrong version
On July 12, 2009 07:52:36 am Previdi Roberto wrote: On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On July 11, 2009 06:18:38 pm Previdi Roberto wrote: I downloaded the image at http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ but the contained kernel (2.6.29-rc2) don't boot (it give a lot of i/o errors and then kernel panic). I installed those images yesterday and they were working fine. Did you install to flash or SD ? SD How did you install them ? I installed directly to flash but I can try an SD install sometime later. i just unpacked the fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.tar.gz on the empty sd partition and made the uImage-GTA02.bin link for qi It sounds like you might made the link to the wrong file. Then i downloaded the suggested kernel (2.6.28) and modules, but the modules package contain the folder lib/modules/2.6.29-rc2 like the one already present in the image. They don't seem to be the same files, because sizes changes, so i created a 2.6.28 folder and i'll see if it works. The 2.6.28 modules tarball does contain 2.6.29-rc2 modules it's how the files get named in OE. Angus umm can the 2.6.29 modules work with a 2.6.28 kernel? is the suggested kernel effectively suggested? After trying a bit the distribution it seems like all the phone functions are working, and it locked just one time, after sending an sms. I have the buzz and echo when i call someone though, while with shr i don't have any. (my phone has got the capacitor between 2 of the sd pins, called buzz-fix) No they can't. The uImage-2.6.28+andy_tracking is a 2.6.29-rc2 kernel again due to OE naming conventions. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] modules files with wrong version
On July 11, 2009 06:18:38 pm Previdi Roberto wrote: I downloaded the image at http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ but the contained kernel (2.6.29-rc2) don't boot (it give a lot of i/o errors and then kernel panic). I installed those images yesterday and they were working fine. Did you install to flash or SD ? How did you install them ? Then i downloaded the suggested kernel (2.6.28) and modules, but the modules package contain the folder lib/modules/2.6.29-rc2 like the one already present in the image. They don't seem to be the same files, because sizes changes, so i created a 2.6.28 folder and i'll see if it works. The 2.6.28 modules tarball does contain 2.6.29-rc2 modules it's how the files get named in OE. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Repositories
On July 5, 2009 01:11:00 pm matthias wrote: Hello dear list, i tried an opkg update opkg upgrade but the files in the package-lists don't seem to match the ones in the repository. I get an 404 for every package to download: Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/paroli-sounds_0.2.1 +gitr107+3af9f956337445dc3772038ba1eeeb8a4e33f406-r24_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download paroli-sounds. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr10 7+3af9f956337445dc3772038ba1eeeb8a4e33f406-r24_armv4t.ipk, error 404 * Failed to download paroli. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? I can ping the server, so what's wrong? Is there something wrong with my opkg-lists? Matthias There was an issue with the testing feeds for a short period of time. It should be fixed now. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] fao nytowl, om2009 listing in wiki distributions page
Hi Tim, It's a little more complicated than that. On June 30, 2009 03:08:49 pm Tim Abell wrote: Hi All / nytowl, I installed Om2009 on the basis that it is listed under official on the distributions page, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions As far as it's official status you'll need to get a comment from an OM employee. I now understand (via irc) that openmoko are no longer maintaining any distributions, and that Om2009 is produced and maintained by Angus Ainslie (nytowl). I am still doing maintenance on a volunteer and very part time basis. The build servers and webservers are still being supplied by OM ( I haven't been given any timeline on if or whether this will continue ). Do you (Angus) or anyone else object if I move Om2009 in that listing to the community section as this would clear up any confusion. It would also be worth adding a note to this page for those unaware of the change to openmoko's focus. Updating and maintaining the wiki is always a good thing, thanks. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: help me
Here is the proper address for questions. You might also like to try the wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Angus -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: help me Date: June 23, 2009 From: qu kai qukaim...@gmail.com To: nyt...@openmoko.org Hello: I bought a Freerunner phone, and then use their own version of the android operating system koolu, I would now like to install Om 2009, mobile phone and computer but not be able to communicate, please help me, it did not koolu as directly from the sd card installed method. Waiting for your reply, thank you! -- 活着！ --- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] mplayer inits, but doesn't play
On June 19, 2009 08:04:39 am Marcel wrote: Another issue: I called the neo from landline just to see if it helps (sets gsmhandset.state I suppose...). Paroli doesn't notice that I cancelled the call on landline and continues vibrating. No ringtone. And Paroli seems to have crashed, too... [Appending the log tail hoping someone can interpret that... Seems like frameworkd marks the call as released but Paroli doesn't notice...?] Please open a bug and post the full frameworkd and paroli logs. Thanks Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On June 19, 2009 07:27:49 am Michal Brzozowski wrote: Is there a way to make Paroli and frameworkd keep old logs and not deleting them? Michal Check here under log directory http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009#Using_OM2009 Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 5
On June 16, 2009 04:44:22 pm Warren Baird wrote: Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now. I look forward to the improvements a lot. One question - is the 'bind-home' approach documented somewhere? Both google and searching on the wiki haven't helped me find info on how to set this up. I've actually got om2009 on my sd-card right now, so it isn't something I need right away - but I think I'm getting confident enough in OM2009 that I'll soon ditch the QtE install I've been keeping for 'emergencies' on the built-in flash. Warren To get bind-home to work Make sure there isn't a bind-home directory first ls /media/card/bind-hone If this exists you are already using bind-home, otherwise keep following the directions below mv /home/root /media/card/bind-home mkdir /home/root reboot Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2009 testing release 5
Hi All, There have been some major show stoppers fixed in the last week. As usual there are additional instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement them. If you are interested in in owning one of the wishlist items come and join #paroli or send me an email http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active Careful attention was paid to package versioning so opkg update opkg upgrade *might* work. You must also do rm -r /home/root/.e. If you want to preserve your settings with flashing the full image use the bind-home method. New features Settings available from the main screen Improved call handling - should limit races in oeventsd Better list handling More consistent interface New paroli-serenity theme, This is for the most part a copy of Joel Newkirk's serenity theme Static MAC addresses for usb devices Ability to cut 30 seconds off boot time - DO NOT use this if you use bind-home - install udev-static-devices to get this speed boost Keyboard goes away after use Updated /etc/network/interfaces to give usb0 a metric Known issues If you use bind-home make sure it is on a journaling filesystem such as ext 3 Before install this release backup your contacts in ~/.paroli/ as there have been some reports of contacts being deleted. One bug relating to missing contacts has been fixed but there's a chance that there is another one. Also make sure your home directory is on a journaling filesystem Some oeventsd rules are ignored ( framework oeventsd problems ) - don't suspend while plugged in http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/381 - work around unplug usb until LED goes out, then plug usb in ( need to keep the device awake by touching the screen until the LED comes back on) connman doesn't give a default route to wifi if usb0 already is the default route -work around either ifdown usb0 from a terminal or route del default gw 192.168.0.202 Bugs fixed after editing contacts - some contacts erased no suspend after phone call FSO 435 Parts of frameworkd stop working FSO 416 improper battery level in illume Keyboard collapses after use Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM2009 unstable 11 July unstable broken?
On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:50 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: The openmoko-fso-paroli-image-glibc-ipk--20090611-om- gta02.rootfs.tar.gz doesn't boot X it remains in console, in fact it lacks of x11 init scripts deamon /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm yes I know the recommendation is to wait for t5 but my restless ass can just be quiet waiting :) -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community The auto generated images had some issues. I triggered a new build around 12:00 CES which should be good. Tomorrows auto built images should be good. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] Couple of troubles
On June 10, 2009 04:17:27 am ivanshirok...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Yesterday I've flashed new testing image of OM2009. Must say it works pretty good. But I've got a couple of problems: 1) Can't use Internet. It successfully connects to bouth of my wifi routers, acquires DNS servers so I can see them in /etc/resolv.conf. But I cant ping any of internet addresses. Even IP addresses =( Connman doesn't set the default route if there is already one. If you do ifdown usb0 from the terminal then wifi will work as expected. Or you can manually add the default route for wifi Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: booting from mSD (Ed Kapitein)
On June 8, 2009 12:51:30 pm chlework2...@yahoo.com wrote: this is latest images from web, i dowloaded and trying to booting from mSD. modules-2.6.28-stable+gitr0+f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413-r2-om- gta02.gz following this instructions? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD You've listed a modules tarball. Did you untar a rootfs tarball first ? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
On June 5, 2009 02:31:16 am Patryk Benderz wrote: Looks like these: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ are the same images i downloaded last time, May 21st. Am i looking for them at right place? The testing images haven't changed but the unstable ones have had quite a bit of work done. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb0 vs eth0
On June 2, 2009 08:37:21 am ivvmm wrote: I'm running Slackware and this obviously will not work. What am I supposed to do? P.S. sudo /sbin/ip l set eth0 down sudp /sbin/ip l set eth0 up will not help Never used slackware but something like below should work on most unix's ifconfig ethx down ifconfig ethx 192.168.0.200 mask 255.255.255.0 up Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb0 vs eth0
On June 1, 2009 08:54:51 am ivvmm wrote: Read the section for Slackware on that wiki page. This way that will do the right routing whatever the interface is called so you will not have to think how is it named at this time. As for me, I experience another problem: cannot connect to the freerunner twice, only once until device is rebooted. How this can be solvfed? On the host side ifdown ethx; ifup ethx Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] intone not finding libehal-ver-pre-01.so.0
On May 26, 2009 03:09:20 pm Marcel wrote: Hello, I have installed intone 0.51 from http://www.opkg.org/packages/intone_0.51_arm.ipk (where the dependency libelementary0 is still there). Once I launch it, the binary is missing: r...@d-a318:~# intone intone: error while loading shared libraries: libehal-ver-pre-01.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory But that lib certainly exists in /usr/lib and ldd shows the link as intact, too. That used to work before I killed my previous 2009 installation, but I cannot remember what I did to achieve that. Can someone help? -- Marcel Is edbus-ehal installed ? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: linphonec
On May 21, 2009 06:37:28 pm Al Johnson wrote: That looks like the release version where the GUI crashes if you try to access the preferences. This was a bug in the release version if built without video support, and has been fixed in svn. The attached recipe worked using autorev just after the upstream fix (rev 396) but I wasn't sure what the versioning convention was for svn recipes, then got distracted. Posting it now before I forget again! It is that version but it also has a patch applied that keeps the SEGV from happening. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions
On May 21, 2009 07:22:15 am Robin Paulson wrote: that's confusing. i'm trying to install udev-static-devices, because apparently it will speed up boot time. it's not listed in the feeds which are on my neo (including 'http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/' as you listed above) - as shown by 'opkg list|grep udev-static-device' returning nothing. It hasn't made it to the testing feed yet. You will need to get it from the unstable feed http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/ Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions
On May 21, 2009 09:21:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: Toni Mueller wrote: I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) while flashing moko11 I've just discovered that Paroli doesn't let me set the date, but only the time. For some obscure reason, after a reboot (all w/o a GSM SIM card), the date was magically adjusted from May 9th to today. The time gets updated from the network Other things that I'd change if I were able to, off the top of my head: * I still happen to not understand Paroli's UI. The battery looks like being empty in Paroli, but full in Illume. Thats paroli talking to the frame work before the framework is ready to respond. * There's a strange icon to the left of the battery that doesn't say what it is, nor what it wants to tell me. GSM signal level * The minuscule analog clock doesn't really serve a purpose, imho. It'd be better to either (configurably) replace it by a digital clock, and/or maximize it when activated, like any other application, too. I'd prefer digital too and maybe even white on black to match the rest of paroli. Send a patch for the paroli-illume profile and I'll integrate it. * I have yet to find out how to rotate the screen on demand. xrandr * Suspend should be configurable to not being activated while on USB power. It's annoying to me that the device always goes to sleep, and consequently, my SSH connection goes down, while I'm looking something up in the wiki or elsewhere. It should not suspend while plugged in. But there is a race condition in framework that those rules don't get properly applied sometimes. What sometimes works is to unplug the usb cable until the LED goes out and then plug it back in. I should not suspend after that point * After several reboots, the time has now been turned backwards for well over an hour. The difference is small enough to suggest to me that maybe the device displays what it thinks is UTC instead of local time (which I configured). Instead of configuring it for locatime you should set the correct localtime file and set ZONESOURCES=NONE in /etc/frameworkd.conf Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions
On May 21, 2009 10:46:54 am Toni Mueller wrote: There was a dialogue in Paroli where I could adjust the time. There, I entered the time according to my local time zone, being unaware of the network time stuff. But I'd prefer to configure an /etc/localtime, like in any other *nix, too. Doing it in frameworkd.conf should work, too. You need to *copy* in the correct zone file from user share zones and set set zonesources to NONE. If you don't set zonesources then as soon as you add a SIM card the zone will get set from the GSM network Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2009 testing release 4
Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are additional instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement them. If you are interested in in owning one of the wishlist items come and join #paroli or send me an email http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active Don't bother trying to do an opkg update opkg upgrade to do the upgrade. Chances are you won't get the dependencies right ( I know I didn't ). If you want to preserve your settings use the bind-home method and flash the full image. New in feeds callrec claws-mail dictator dillo midori mokomaze omnewrotate pyring sms-sentry webkit-efl New features Improved call handling - should limit races in oeventsd Better list handling More consistent interface New paroli-illume theme - only change so far is to remove desktop switcher - wanted volunteer to change analog clock to digital - wanted different colour scheme ( maybe white on black to match the rest of paroli ? ) Static MAC addresses for usb devices - usb networking will now show up as ethx on the host side please check dmesg on the host side Ability to cut 30 seconds off boot time - DO NOT use this if you use bind-home - install udev-static-devices to get this speed boost - any solutions on using bind-home and static-devices appreciated Keyboard goes away after use Updated /etc/network/interfaces to give USB0 a metric Added readahead to busybox to test speed increase Known issues Some oeventsd rules are ignored ( framework oeventsd problems ) - don't suspend while plugged in http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/381 - suspend fails after a call http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/435 Bugs fixed 1 pixel wide illume exit menu UTF chars in SMS's - you must still install a keyboard to be able to write different character sets. Keyboard collapses after use Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
On May 21, 2009 01:48:44 pm Michael Shiloh wrote: Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. You've only updated the rootfs, right? So no changes in the wifi driver? M Right you could try the experimental kernel and modules. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: linphonec
On May 21, 2009 03:01:48 pm GNUtoo wrote: Hi, I've just bitbaken linphonec and I didn't succeed at making it work I've followed this howto: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Linphone and I've no sound... Denis. PS: if there are better recipes I'd like to know where to find them Linphone 3 has been in the Om2009 feeds since testing 1 Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions
Hi Toni On May 20, 2009 02:11:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: 2. Instead of shutting down, pressing and holding the power button for an extended period simply powered off the device. I think this is already known and being worked on, but thought I'd mention it for completeness. If you hold the button for less than 2 seconds it should suspend ( Is that what you mean by shutdown ? ). More than 2 seconds and it is supposed to power down. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions
So far, I didn't really care much for the different keyboards, but if I can have a wish, I'd like response times like the current keyboard in Paroli gives (ie, it immediately gives results as fast as I can type), not as sluggish with 1-2 second pauses between key presses, like in Om2008.12, but something that gives me easy ways to type all characters that I'd like to have, which is *full* Unicode (or close: Latin9 and Chinese at least). On my desktop computer, I use scim for this purpose, and for other languages as well. Otherwise, I'd like to be able to zoom and shrink the keyboard. The idea of scrolling between different layouts, like in Om2008.12, is interesting and not too bad, but it's naturally impossible to accommodate all foreign language characters this way and still have a usable keyboard. UTF8 should be properly supported in the next testing release. I believe there are a few different keyboard layouts in the wiki. Reading that wishes are not encouraged at this time, I'd probably better not hold my breath, though. That has changed a bit. We are now encouraging the community to create a wish list. What we also need the community to do is implement the wish list. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009_get_active There are some core features that OM is going to implement and then we will integrate working solutions built by the community. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions
On May 20, 2009 09:14:56 am Risto H. Kurppa wrote: This is great to hear Angus, that actually OM will also include some solutions from the community - I guess it means we might have a change of shipping a more complete distro, not only the very minimal, almost working stuff. Is there a possibility of shipping actual applications - if they fill your quality requirements. I'd like to see tangogps numptyphysics mokomaze included and I have no problems you setting some quality limits there for apps to pass. All of those applications are already in the feeds. At this point I don't see them as being installed by default in the image. I might make some packages like moko-games-pack that includes all of the top games or moko-mapping-pack which could include tangogps and navit with speechd stripped out. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] comments about om2009
On May 18, 2009 11:06:22 am Aapo Rantalainen wrote: So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes wrench-settings, but it doesn't help because paroli has own settings and own suspend time. these are not paroli settings but fso settings which are exposed in paroli. Also, you will find that none of the settings you find in illume-wrench except the profile switcher are mirrored in paroli. What this mean? I must disable suspend two different place to get it disabled. Or is this setting under illume-wrench not in use? -Aapo Rantalainen The illume wrench settings are not in use. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] Real slowdown in frameworkd, resulting no ringtones
On May 14, 2009 02:58:38 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! With the newest om2009 image[1], there is no ringtones when calling. I used a week older image, where I applied all the paroli patches from git. There were no problem like this. Which ringtone are you using ? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call
On May 14, 2009 06:30:42 am Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I also carry the full frameworkd.log, and have one more saved logs when occured again. Please include the whole log as an error with frameworkd can occur long before the problem manifests itself. You can sanitize phone numbers from it but I would prefer that no other editing is done. Thanks Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] Suspend not working after recieving a call
On May 14, 2009 08:58:57 am Tom Yates wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: Please include the whole log as an error with frameworkd can occur long before the problem manifests itself. You can sanitize phone numbers from it but I would prefer that no other editing is done. angus: i have a paroli.log and frameworkd.log from just such a situation last night (SMS came in, phone could not suspend). how would you like me to get them to you (post-sanitisation)? is there a trac open they should be appended to? Hi Tom You can attach it here . https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2284 Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
On May 14, 2009 09:50:08 am einstein wrote: Hi, yes i think too, it's a kernel problem. i try to use om2009 but with the kernel, i became the wosd when i wake up the device from the suspend. i used the 2.6.28kernel so i try the 2.6.29 kernel from shr. suspend works nice with this kernel. but i have an error with wifi and no sound. so its not the right kernel for om2009 :/ greets stefan The kernel in Om2009 is 2.6.29-rc2 even though the archive is named 2.6.28- stable. If you want to try a newer kernel with matching modules look here. It can be installed over the current Om2009 image http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: After resume - noise screen of death!!
On May 14, 2009 01:38:25 pm einstein wrote: Johny Tenfinger wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 21:24, einstein mailingl...@freeyourphone.de wrote: with this kernel suspend works good. but i have some sound problems and wifi problems. if i make a call, i don't here anything, but the other side here my. i don't here ring ring or anything else... when paroli starts i became a error message can't init service Wifi: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:MethodGetPower with signature on interfaces org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl don't exist Of course you have installed proper modules, am I right? i don't have installed any modules. i have to? The modules tarball is in the same directory as the kernel. If you use a matching kernel and image there is no problem. But when you cherry-pick a kernel from a different distro you must also pickup the modules. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
Hi Max Thanks Risto for answering some of these. On May 13, 2009 04:18:47 am Max wrote: First of all thank you for hard work Angus. Hey I just put the lego together you should be thanking Mirko, and the FSO team. The very essential things I expect from om-whatever are: - send and receive calls to\from phones in international format e. g. starting with + like +790934534... - read and create contacts both in English and Russian from both sim card and internal db - send and receive sms both in English and Russian This should be fixed in the unstable feed. To get it you will need to install Om2009 and the bring that package in from unstable or wait for TR4 - lock and unlock screen by pressing aux button AUX button has other uses I guess it's pretty common expectations and it sometimes work somehow with om2008.12 So my question is - are above mentioned features available on om2009 TR3 out-of-the-box? Not yet Is there are some packages I need to install to achieve it or some configuration tweaks needed? If so - how to migrate contacts db and sms message archive from om2008.12 to om2009? As far as I understood it's recommended to flash om2009. Is it possible to use sd instead? If so - where can I find instructions on how to do it with om2009 TR3? Yes running on an SD card is no problem, and is the method I would recommend if you just want to test it, and is the same as any other distro in that regard. The instructions vary depend on what bootloader so check the wiki. Going a bit further, is there plan to start supporting normal upgrade via something like opkg upgrade since om2009 TR x? Upgrades should start working before we get to release but there are a couple of minor bugs that need working out first. If those aren't resloved before release I will try to provide an upgrade script that will do the right thing were opkg can't There are also certain features lacking in om2008.12 which I'm really looking forward to see in om2009 in addition to basics mentioned above: - correctly receive call\sms in suspend mode e. g. wake up and work Part of that with any distro is to make sure you have the modem flashed to moko11 - alarm clock working in suspend mode - wi-fi with wpa2 working out-of-the-box - some media player supporting ogg and mp3 It is unlikely that mp3 will ever be supported out of the box. What I'm looking at right now is to ship an mplayer or gstreamer frontend and you will need to install the mp3 functionality from a different distro. It's not clear (maybe I miss something - feel free to point me to appropriate info) if it is in om2009 TR 3. Om2009 is pretty fluid right now but I'm trying to keep it's page uptodate http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Building om2009
On May 11, 2009 03:34:48 pm Nicola Mfb wrote: Sorry if I missed this, but how to build om2009? is there instructions somewhere or a Makefile? Thanks Nicola Hi Nicola, The build instructions are here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded The scripts and conf directories that I use to build the distro's are here http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/build/ Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:24 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: - some mess sometimes in the top of the screen Yup, please add it to the bug tracker - resume doesn't turn on the screen lights - one knows it's resumed only by touching the screen please add this too. - Slow boot time (over 4min with Qi?) My tests only show a 10 second difference between qi and u-boot, I will start working on this soon. I was trying to get it stable before I started to optimize - the alsastatefile (kurppa.fi/freerunner/temp/gsmhandset.state_2009t3 with Right PGA on control.63) is different from the latest 'working one' (with mic2) at http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new Oops that was supposed to be in this release I'll see what happened tomorrow. ¤ Is there a way to enable illume from command line? mdbus org.enlightenment.wm.service /org/enlightenment/wm/RemoteObject org.enlightenment.wm.[List|Set] ¤ At some stage my FR just decided not to resume any more Please send a log ¤ After the 10min call the UI died, I wasn't able to press any buttons, nothing happened. Then after waiting some minutes it started running again. Still the top left shows '100' instead of default or silent.. A log would be helpful here too ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2009] testing Release 3
Hi, Another week of hard work brings a new testing image, lets hear it for the kernel, paroli and freesmartphone.org teams. As always it still has some issues ( that we are still working on ) The gta01 image boots but calling it working is a bit of a stretch. - Call volume is so low as to be nearly non-existent - usb networking is broken ( probably a modules issue ) - paroli tries to initialize the wifi on gta01 - some menus missing from settings ( illume profile switch for one ) Images and kernels can be found here http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/ Details for flashing, bug reporting and debug logging can be found here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 Features ( this includes some from last week ) Paroli settings screen - settings enabled by default ( Hold AUX for a few seconds ) - SIM settings PIN - Network settings ( these are carrier dependant ) Network selection and roaming status Call forwarding Messages - Wifi settings ( custom /etc/network/interfaces files will confuse connman ) - change illume profile ( paroli fulsscreen or illume ) - GPRS settings APN settings enable or disable GPRS - phone profile settings menu ringtone volume vibration on incoming call message volume vibration on incoming message New feature's in the FSO framework - Configurable ntp server - Automatic time setting ( requires GPS or network connection ) - Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries Bugs fixed - Power button does not shutdown device - otimed sets timezone incorrectly in large countries FSO 389 - Power status events ignored FSO 381 - feeds are incorrectly set to unstable Angus PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg upgrade it won't work. At the very minimum you will need to opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli and then reinstall them ( and no -force-reinstall won't be enough ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 16:42 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi, [...] PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg upgrade it won't work. At the very minimum you will need to opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli and then reinstall them ( and no -force-reinstall won't be enough ) Why do you say At the very minimum, what else is required/recommended? I would like to upgrade from testing 2 to testing 3, can you confirm that the following will work? opkg update opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli opkg install frameworkd paroli opkg upgrade No I can't confirm that it will work. That may be sufficient but there might be other dependencies I have missed, some will be upgrade automatically but there is a small class ( those packages pegged from git and svn repos ) that won't upgrade automatically. The only thing I can confirm is that I have used this technique on one of the testing phones and the phone seemed to work correctly. The only way to guarantee that all of the dependencies are properly upgraded is to flash the image. As well do i need to update the kernel and/or Qi? If qi was working with release 2 it doesn't need to be changed and the kernel is the same as release 2. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 22:18 +0200, Hans Zimmerman wrote: My update sequence showed some errors. Actions executed: opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli opkg update opkg upgrade opkg install frameworkd paroli - paroli did not install because of conflict with the file /usr/share/elementary/themes/default.edj with elementary-themes opkg remove elementary-themes -recursive This was the wrong way to solve it. You should have done opkg install -force-overwrite paroli ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 00:49 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: On Суббота 09 мая 2009 17:36:55 Angus Ainslie wrote: New feature's in the FSO framework - Configurable ntp server - Automatic time setting ( requires GPS or network connection ) - Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries This dont works =( At least for me What didn't work ? Did you have a network connection ? Can you provide a log ? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009#Debugging_and_Bug_Reporting Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 10:16 +0100, Tom Yates wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: Please report them to https://docs.openmoko.org/trac and set the milestone to Om2009 happy to. i just went off to report my first (that the paroli call screen often disappears during a call, making it hard to hang up) and saw on the new ticket page (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/wiki/NewTicket) the statement Never set Priority, Severity or Milestone - thats for the QA team only!. should i follow your instructions, or theirs? if theirs, how would you like these issues tagged? When you enter the bug Please set the milestone, and even the severity or priority. I will however change any one of them as I see fit. I think that statement refers more to bug that are already in trac, I'll find out how to get it adjusted. This is fixed with the current unstable but some new issues have shown up. If you would like to test the fixes change the repo from testing to unstable. For now don't upgrade framework just opkg install paroli. Once the issues with the framework are sorted there will be a new image. ok, thanks for that. i'll try to upgrade before logging any call-related bugs. I'm pretty sure I got my side of this fixed now ( again currently in unstable ). The current workaround is cp /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/paroli_rules.yaml /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/rules.yaml for the benefit of anyone reading the list archives, that seems to be /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/... not .../oeventsd/..., and it works for me - holding down the power button for 10s and releasing it starts the shutdown (within a few seconds). Yup that's a better path ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 15:12 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Hi there! So updating paroli from testing should fix the tele crashing during calls. Can I just run http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr22+83d262ab5c88dd32078e6e931850d69f3c1eca51-r18_armv4t.ipk or does it need some other packages from unstable too, as dependencies? Decided to give it a try and it installed with no problems so far.. r Yeah it should not have any other dependencies. Glad it's working. There is a Kustomizer 2009 thread on one of the lists that will install a lot of the popular apps into Om2009. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 19:56 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: FYI Risto started Kustomizer and is the main author of Kustomizer 2009 so far so I am pretty sure he already knew this!!! Rakshat I thought the name looked familiar, I guess I need more coffee :) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 17:05 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2009 15:51:40 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:04:10PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: I was wondering if FR could function as a fax client so one could send text and picture files directly to fax numbers and if there is any interest in such an application. If there is some interest I will set this up as the next OM software comp on cofundus. How about a telephony suite that actually works? :) Some hacking marathon for paroli could help. Absolutely! Someone could work on the paroli config and actually implement this stuff: http://www.paroli-project.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/settings_full.png Tell me what the bounty is and maybe we can get an image up today ;) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Podboy (0.0.1 - pre-alpha release)
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:19 +0200, Valery Febvre wrote: It requires a very recent version of python-elementary so I think Podboy can be run only under SHR :-( Hi Valery, Om2009 is using a pretty recent version of python-elementary 40284, is that recent enough ? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 10:23 +0100, Tom Yates wrote: where would you like us to report bugs? here, or is there a tracker? and what about things which are not necessarily bugs (ie, possible RFEs)? Please report them to https://docs.openmoko.org/trac and set the milestone to Om2009 two times (huh, now again.. so three times) the tele crashed during phone call (call did not get disconnected so i could finish it.) then paroli restart or neo restart... i'm getting this, both with calls made and calls received. what can i provide that will help diagnose this? This is fixed with the current unstable but some new issues have shown up. If you would like to test the fixes change the repo from testing to unstable. For now don't upgrade framework just opkg install paroli. Once the issues with the framework are sorted there will be a new image. i never really understood the time changing by pressing the AUX button... and how do you set alarm time? now there's an interesting feature! autosuspend although enabled did not work, autodim does work i also find this. Bugs fixed Power button does not shutdown device not for me :) ditto. I'm pretty sure I got my side of this fixed now ( again currently in unstable ). The current workaround is cp /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/paroli_rules.yaml /etc/freesmartphone/oeventsd/rules.yaml Thanks for testing Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
Hi Ed, On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 12:18 +0200, Ed Kapitein wrote: I have a +/- 3 pixel band on the top with random noise and colors. That is from using qi. We'll check the theme to see if that can be fixed. Is it possible to add the use of the aux button to the wiki? I discovered it by accident. Could you make a manual on the wiki on how to use paroli? It is not all that intuitive. There are some basic hints at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 If you find any more hidden features they can be added there. I made my phone dual boot now, if i like to hack i boot gentoo from SD card. if i need a phone that just works, i boot paroli. for now it is 90% gentoo and 10% paroli, due to missing features as GPS app, gprs, browser, mail client, etc. But then again perhaps it is best to have a stable phone and take it from there. GPRS can be enabled from the settings app ( one of the AUX button uses ) If you change the paroli theme to illume ( in settings ) you can get all of the apps that you're used to. TangoGPS , browser (midori, dillo, fennec), claws mail. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:53 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: ps. there is a community effort to create a script to add the required apps hacks to 'plain' 2009 in http://etherpad.com/zt3x1x7ERX - it'll eventually be the kustomizer for 2009 (for kustomizer, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer ) - feel free to add your lines there.. callrec is in the feeds now so there shouldn't be any need to install it from an outside source. Is there a dictator recipe somewhere ? There are 4 apps that I would add to the feed if there were bitbake recipes for them pythm, woosh, intone and mokomaze. The players would need to to have mp3 support installed from outside the OM feeds. I'm also open to suggestions of other applications. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 23:39 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: So I need to kill enlightenment each time I quit paroli. Rather strange. actually - did you make sure paroli ACTUALLY quit? that it didnt stay running and just iconify its window? Currently paroli won't quit. It backgrounds itself so it can catch calls and bring up the answer window ( this will configurable in the future ) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing Release 2
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 18:41 +0200, matthias wrote: There is no bitbake recipe for dictator so far. Unfortunately! And I think there won't be, cause I don't know how to make one and I ain't got the time to get used to it. So, is there someone who can do that? It won't be too hard, for it's just a python-something. If it uses distutils the recipe is almost trivial Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ain't it funny..
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:04 -0700, KaZeR wrote: I'll try to test OM2009 soon, because, you're right, it needs user feedback. But i didn't really want to wipe my working phone. You could always use the .tar.gz on an sd card ( It boots way faster that way anyway :) Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR-testing 2009-05-02 broken?
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 17:11 +0300, Yogiz wrote: Thank you both for the information. I'll use this chance to check out the new Openmoko 2009 testing image and I'll return to SHR once the problem gets sorted out. Om2009 has the same problem as the issue is with e upstream. We are also waiting/looking at a fix. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2009 testing Release 2
Hi, After flurry of activity in enlightenment, paroli and oepnmebedded we have a new testing release. There were some problems with the gta01 images so tarballs only are released at this point. Please read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 for more details. Features Paroli settings screen - change illume profile ( paroli fulsscreen or illume ) - GPRS settings APN settings enable or disable GPRS - profile settings menu ringtone volume vibration on incoming call message volume vibration on incoming message and others - this needs to be enabled from /etc/paroli/paroli.cfg as some features are still a little experimental Tons of new feature's in the FSO framework - Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries - lots under the hood check here to see all of them http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=summary Bugs fixed Power button does not shutdown device otimed sets timezone incorrectly in large countries FSO 389 Power status events ignored FSO 381 feeds are incorrectly set to unstable Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr-testing timezones!
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 07:37 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: ive linked both America/Los_Angeles and PST8PDT. date worked once for each. after i restarted the device, date would return EDT. even with hwclock setting. so last night i copied PST8PDT from my linux box and created the link again. ive since restarted a few times and so far it has been corrected. Don't use a link. The framework while overwrite the data in the zonefile if zonesources is set to GSM. With zonesources set to NONE and a proper /usr/share/zoneinfo file *copied* into /etc/locatime the timezone will remain static. FWIW, the current version of the framework should get the correct timezone in multizone countries using CTZV processing. If it doesn't please post the version of frameworkd ( opkg list_installed | grep frameworkd ) and a log to trac.freesmartphone.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NEW e-tasks Alpha release
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 18:44 -0700, c_c wrote: Hi, 20 odd views and no feedback? Seems like PIM apps aren't really on very many people's radar :-) Hi I'm all for a task app for the Freerunner. If you have an OE recipe I could add it to the feed. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 16th community update released
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 10:21 +0200, Marc Verwerft wrote: Yep , me 2 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Piotr Duda openm...@nemezis.eu wrote: [...] We will try to find out what people want. Anybody still downloading the GTA01 images? yes, me. and there are others. do not forget about us. regards and best wishes. Now that I have a fully functional gta01 and battery I will be able to start testing those images. I want to release gta01 iimage with the next testing release. It may not be the same day as the gta02 image gets releases but should be shortly after. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] sms-sentry not working
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 23:06 +0200, Petr Vanek wrote: Hello, anybody made sms-sentry working in current shr-testing? i wanted to give it a try (since it is included in shr-testing (shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Apr 19 09:47) but no luck. Could this be caused by different framework version then sms-sentry was originally written for? Log attached. That would be my guess. I'll have a look at it later. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] - crash - rotate
Hi Blokkie, On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 11:08 +0200, blokkie wrote: Hi , I installed the rotate tool but when it's in horizontal position and I press the power button to put the neo in stand-by it crashes. I would love to send a output but I don't know where it's logged . I've updated the wwiki page with information on how to enable DEBUG logging in fso. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2009 it is reproducable Cheerio's Blokkie PS: when is the next image available ? /me eager to test :) I was hoping to get it out this week, but because of some changes to enlightenment the earliest you'll probably see it is Monday. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing images
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 19:26 +0200, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: Are there any chances of building a more recent U-Boot? The one you are shipping is 8 months old (2008-08-10). Yes there are I'll make sure a more recent one is built. Good catch Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] Using fso-image instead of fso-paroli
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 18:35 +0200, François TOURDE wrote: Hi, First, about future distrib: Whaouh! What a great job Nice work ! Thanks, I'll tell Mirko, Mickey and Nelson too And now, a few questions: 1) I use fso-image instead of fso-paroli, because I'll be able to launch other apps. But I don't know how to auto-lauch Paroli. I've tried to do something like for zhone (i.e. a file in /etc/X11/XSession.d/) but it doesn't work. Paroli is running, but without displaying anything. I also use the fso-image, to autolaunch just opkg install paroli-autostart don't install paroli-theme or you will end up with fullscreen paroli 2) How to stop/start Paroli? I use the cross-icon (like for other apps), but paroli still running, I must kill it from ssh. Please add a bug 3) Must I restart frameworkd (/etc/init.d/framework restart) for new ringtone to be taken into account? Just make sure the ringtone isn't mp3, there is no mp3 support in the OM distro. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009]
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 15:30 +0200, Tomasz Suchan wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: thanks for reporting your enthusiasm :D Is there in 2009.1 the possibility to switch from Paroli to another application (like TangoGPS) using Illume menu? this is at this point not possible. It IS possible, just use fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 image instead of fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2... Tom __ Yes it is possible and the best way to do it. As Tom suggested install fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 and the do an opkg update and then opkg install paroli paroli-sounds paroli-autostart. At the momment this option may cause problems as the testing images are linked to the unstable feeds so if you do opkg upgrade you phone will have the newest features but it will also have moved to the unstable catagory. I hope to have the feeds issue resolved for the next testing release. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems building fso-paroli
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 17:06 -0700, arg0 wrote: When i attempt the build, it errors out with: NOTE: Checking Package: libmikmod ERROR: QA Issue: No GNU_HASH in the elf binary: '/home/oe/base/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libmikmod-3.2.0-beta2-r0/install/libmikmod/usr/lib/libmikmod.so.3.0.0' ... NOTE: Checking Package: libmikmod-locale ERROR: QA run found fatal errors. Please consider fixing them. ERROR: Error in executing: /home/oe/base/openembedded/recipes/libmikmod/libmikmod_3.2.0-beta2.bb ERROR: Exception:type 'exceptions.SystemExit' Message:1 ERROR: Printing the environment of the function ERROR: Error in executing: /home/oe/base/openembedded/recipes/libmikmod/libmikmod_3.2.0-beta2.bb ERROR: Exception:type 'exceptions.SystemExit' Message:1 ERROR: Printing the environment of the function ERROR: Error in executing: /home/oe/base/openembedded/recipes/libmikmod/libmikmod_3.2.0-beta2.bb ERROR: Exception:type 'exceptions.SystemExit' Message:1 ERROR: Printing the environment of the function ERROR: Error in executing: /home/oe/base/openembedded/recipes/libmikmod/libmikmod_3.2.0-beta2.bb ERROR: Exception:type 'exceptions.SystemExit' Message:1 ERROR: Printing the environment of the function ERROR: Build of /home/oe/base/openembedded/recipes/libmikmod/libmikmod_3.2.0-beta2.bb do_package failed ERROR: Task 916 (/home/oe/base/openembedded/recipes/libmikmod/libmikmod_3.2.0-beta2.bb, do_package) failed NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 1956 tasks of which 1600 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/home/oe/base/openembedded/recipes/libmikmod/libmikmod_3.2.0-beta2.bb' failed any ideas/suggestions? What branch are you building ? What machine are you building ? What distro are you building ? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problems building fso-paroli
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 21:40 -0400, Stephen LePage wrote: Branch: org.openembedded.dev Machine: om-gta02 Distro:openmoko branch needs to be fso/milestone5 or fso/milestone5.5 Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2009 testing images
As part of the Om2009 release plan testing images were going to start at the beginning of April. For those brave souls that would like to help us test Paroli, FSO milestone 5.5 and the Om2009.1 kernel there is a Om2009 information page that contains links to the images and flashing instructions [1]. The wiki page also has the features list and know issues. Bugs can be submitted here[2]. Bugs can be filed against the Om2009 milestone and please check for duplicates with this tag before submitting the bug. Angus [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 [2] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO status?
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 20:05 +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: cool :) 2009/4/11 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com: AFAIK no funding from Openmoko but FSO is still going strong and they planned to releaseoool MS 5.5 at the end of this week (tomorrow?) if I'm not mistaken. There was supposed to be an Openmoko testing release of Friday. This is based on MS5.5. The MS5.5 branch will continue to be in flux for sometime. A few things have conspired against us and We're obviously not going to make Friday but we are still working on it. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 22:53 +0200, Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi, With the remainder of march being behind us, can you give an update on the release plan? Kind regards, Ed Hi Ed, We are going to put a testing image together for the end of this week. Because of OM reduced staffing levels some other dates mentioned in the Release Plan will probably slide a bit. Most of the features mentioned in the release plan have been implemented. A few still need some work and hopefully we can get those finished in short order. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 13:48 -0400, Mark Shewmaker wrote: Great to hear that. I'm sending this question privately only because I don't want it to sound negative in any sense by sending it publicly, but..do you know if there is a release goal for this release for opkg update and upgrades to be able to complete without the infamous Signature check failed errors? As it's not really negative and other people might have the same question, I'm bouncing it back to the list. (The claim in http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1870 that this is fixed notwithstanding, that's not the case now.) If you try either the unstable or experimental images you will see that it is already fixed for Om2009. Since the fundamental problem has to do with how the repository is set up, and you are your coworkers are setting that up for this testing image this week, I figure this is probably the best time to ask. Asking questions anytime should provoke thought. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in recent kernels
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 12:09 -0400, Iain B. Findleton wrote: I have the latest kernel I have found on the .../unstable/ download, dated Apr 06, 2009, but I do not see any EV_ABS (type 3) events listed when I access the /dev/input/event[2,3] files. Is there another kernel out there? Which one matches the andy-tracking modules? If you look in http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ you will find the latest andy-tacking kernels. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
Openmoko unstable and anything based on fso/milestone5.5 has stayed current to the newest revision of enlightenment for over a month now. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using toolchain
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 11:27 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Hello! I read the document of toolchain on:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain I arrived until this command: * Extract it directly as root, so use command su first (or prefix the tar command with sudo when you are using Debian/Ubuntu): cd / tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 I don't understand what I have to write in command exactly, I'm working on Debian but I runned this command: sudo tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 but I obtained this error: tar: /root/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 : la fonction open a échoué: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type tar: Erreur non récupérable : arrêt du traitement tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Des erreurs ont provoqué l'arrêt du programme It;s not finding the file. You need to replace the ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 below with the filename and location that you downloaded. tar -xjvf ~/sources/openmoko-XYZ-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: started with openembedded
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:41 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Thank you for your recommandation, I'm a new user and programmer on Linux, could you help me how can I run my commands as normal user, with the problem of permission of creating directories. what do you mean start from scratch or do a chown on directories. Thank you for you help that I big it On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:45 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: hello! I followed the instruction written in http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started, I arrived to this command git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded but it shows this error: fatal: could not create work tree dir 'openembedded'. what must I do Hi Anas From looking at some of your other mails you've been running some commands as root. It's not necessary and dangerous. It's probably a permission problem on the directory, so either start from scratch somewhere else as a normal user or do a chown on the directories you're working in. Angus Please keep the thread on list Google pointed out a few links http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Debian_newbie_help_documentation http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_started Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: date and GPS related questions
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 18:15 +0200, Daniel Willmann wrote: Hi, On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:59:20 +0900 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: No, otimed sucks for a number of reasons (not the least being hard coded to an NTP server somewhere in Europe) so control like you are after is critical. just wanted to follow up on this. From the sample frameworkd.conf file: # # Subsystem configuration for otimed # [otimed] # a list of time/zone sources to use or NONE timesources = GPS,NTP zonesources = GSM It would be nice to change that at runtime, patches welcome. :-) For counties that have more than one timezone make sure that /etc/localtime is COPIED from /usr/share/zoneinfo and /etc/timezone is properly set as well. In /etc/frameworkd.conf change zonesources to zonesources = NONE In Perth Australia, vodafone appears to have my location set to Lord Howe Island - some 3000+ km away in the pacific - I am near the Indian Ocean. As well, I suspect they are not sending local time, but time as it is in the eastern states (2hr diff). Is there a way to get the gsm to print the data as to what it thinks it is? - some command in mickeyterm? - be nice to confirm and know what its actually doing as I certainly cant trust the FR to get it right. Framework debugging should tell you. The freerunner by design seems unable to keep accurate time unless you are in Europe ... Well, timekeeping is independent from that. The UTC time will stay right no matter what timezone you're in. The timezone packets for multi timezone countries aren't processed properly yet. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: started with openembedded
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 15:45 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: hello! I followed the instruction written in http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started, I arrived to this command git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded but it shows this error: fatal: could not create work tree dir 'openembedded'. what must I do Hi Anas From looking at some of your other mails you've been running some commands as root. It's not necessary and dangerous. It's probably a permission problem on the directory, so either start from scratch somewhere else as a normal user or do a chown on the directories you're working in. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anti-buzz application
Hi Valery, Did you mean to release this under the GPL ? If so you should probably change the references from neon to anti-buzz. There is already a similar gtk application to this called fso-mixer, you could look at it if you wanted to add gtk functionality to your app. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Free email to SMS
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 11:53 -0400, Will Siddall wrote: Hey Pander, This is a great tool but it does have it's limitations. Most of the time, you have to be aware of what you attach to your emails and how many characters you use. Just the sheer fact that you can send emails to an SMS receiver is still great though. One down fall is the SMS receiver's carrier. Some carriers are starting to restrict use of the email-to-SMS conversion (to some degree) a paid service. I live in Canada and the only GSM provider in the area is Rogers. They've completely locked out this service to a degree that if you receive an SMS from email, the receiver is notified that a message has arrived and will have to agree to pay a fee to receive it. Unless someone has found ways around this matter, I would look into it a bit more before you start sending off massive amounts of joke mail to all of your phone pals. Will Rogers used to charge $5 extra if you wanted to receive unlimited email to SMS. Somewhere in the small print there was probably a limit to the unlimited though. I also found a package that would interface directly to Rogers ( and Fido's ) html to text gateways. It would even split the email into separate messages if it became to long. I don't remember the name of the package and IIRC the maintainer was talking about dropping it because rogers was changing the html every couple of weeks to mess with the interface. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feedback on FSO 5.1
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 20:01 -0800, c_c wrote: Are the packages in openmoko feed (which Angus says are from git://git.openembedded.org branch fso/milestone5) going to be the ones you'll be using in 5.5? The version is svnr39300-r4. Thanks updated the readme. The binaries at downloads.openmoko.org are built from the fso/milestone5.5 branch. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2009 release plan
Spring a time for new beginnings and we have a plan. An Om2009 release plan that is. For the remainder of March we are going to be integrating. We're going put FSO milestone 5.5, the stable kernel, paroli and the new xorg-glamo drivers together and make our most stable distro ever. Any incomplete features need to be finished and integrated before the end of March. The builds in March will be called Alpha builds, and will receive only partial testing. The following features already have an owner and will be taken care of before the end of March: phone calls incoming and outgoing sms incoming and outgoing simple phone book (no images) call log charging suspend and resume alarm clock resume speed 2 seconds boot time 2 minutes screen lock battery indicator (gta01 and gta02 battery) gsm indicator Then there are still features looking for someone to help bring them in before the end of March: Settings application gprs edge user changeable ring tones bluetooth wifi led indication for missed calls or sms sliding in UI In April we start with Beta builds and full testing. From then on only critical features and bug fixes will be backported into the branch. If you're brave and test with us please use the bug filing procedure below. During the Beta phase in April and May, the phone will become fully functional. Full testing will be weekly at this point to try and nail the stability. Any remaining bugs will need closing. This is when we need to nail all the showstopper bugs and we're going to need your ( the communities help ). Your responsibility will be to find bugs and make sure they get into trac.openmoko.org. When filing a bug : 1) Don't request new features or enhancements during this period. They will slow us down. 2) search 3 different ways to make sure it's not a duplicate. Duplicates will slow us down. The couple of extra minutes you try to search will save us a lot of time and may even find you a solution. During your search if you find bugs that might depend on one another add it to the comments. 3) attach your log files ( anything in /tmp or /var/log that ends in log ). 4) include as much of a description as you can. 5) include patches. They make fixing the bugs easier. At the end of May we'll start generating release candidates (RC builds). If we all pull together we should be able to get it out in the second week of June. If it's not quite right yet we'll keep doing release candidates until it is. I don't want to jinx it by saying the release is going to be Om2009.x ,we'll leave off the x and aim for June. Who's in? And about the enhancements and feature requests I'm serious they kill schedules so if you want us to make it don't ask for anything that's not in the UI spec ( to be released at http://www.paroli-project.org/, shortly I hope ). Angus Ainslie Openmoko Distribution Maintainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 18:31 +0100, Florian Hackenberger wrote: Thanks for keeping us informed of the release schedule! One question related to paroli comes to mind. I tested paroli (from SVN) with FSO 5.1 and noticed that paroli is meant to be running full screen. Is that a temporary requirement? Because it would basically rule out the use of a window manager like illume and would result in having to implement WM, launcher (.desktop), systray, ... functionality in paroli, which would obviously be quite a duplication of effort. Could someone please explain the paroli plans with respect to the fullscreen requirement? Cheers, Florian Full screen is how paroli is intended to be used. It will not be a WM, launcher etc. It will still co-exist quite nicely with illume and that is how I've been running it for the last few days. Providing a stable phone platform is what paroli is about. Once the UI spec is published it should become a little clearer. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 09:14 -0700, Angus Ainslie wrote: During the Beta phase in April and May, the phone will become fully functional. Full testing will be weekly at this point to try and nail the stability. Any remaining bugs will need closing. This is when we need to nail all the showstopper bugs and we're going to need your ( the communities help ). Your responsibility will be to find bugs and make sure they get into trac.openmoko.org. Well there's the first oops in the plan. The correct url for bug filing would be : http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-unstable] wrong timezone setting
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 15:42 +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: Yes, there is a description on frameworkd.conf on the wiki. Really, should be a commented example in the frameword.conf file itself - would be a lot easier for users. BillK I was talking about the example file in git on freesmartphone.org . Setting zonesources = NONE and having properly configured /etc/localtime and /etc/timezone does the trick for me. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-unstable] wrong timezone setting
Just looked through the example frameworkd.conf and there aren't any examples of using either the locally configured timezone or manually setting it in frameworkd.conf. Is there a way ? Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Howto: Compile latest kernel for Neo Freerunner
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 12:57 +0800, Arne Brasseur wrote: Dear community, I came across this post [1] on planet.openmoko.org. It explains in Chinese how to compile the latest Andy kernel. I translated it into English, mainly to practice my Chinese a bit, and added it to the wiki [2]. However there's already some info on the wiki on how to compile from git [3]. This info seems to use a different approach, and is much less elaborate. Since I'm by far an expert on the topic I wasn't sure how to merge these two explanations. For now I just cross-linked them. This is both my first wiki contribution and my first ML post. I would appreciate any comments. Best regards, Arne [1] http://www.jollen.org/blog/2009/02/compile_neo_freerunner_kernel.html [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Howto_compile_Openmoko_kernel_for_Neo_Freerunner [3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Building_Openmoko_Kernel_from_git_repo_using_Toolchain Unless you're trying to add special modules won't the daily experimental builds work for you ? http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] getting PySpeex packaged
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 13:22 +0100, matthias wrote: Hello dear list, does anyone of you know a good way to get PySpeex (http://www.freenet.org.nz/python/pySpeex/pySpeex-0.2.tar.gz) packaged? I was able to compile it on my Freerunner, but that's not the way it should be distributed or so. Thanx! :) Matthias Get a python-pyspeex recipe into oe (wiki.openmebedded.net). It can then easily be added to the feeds. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
