Re: Apologies for spam - we will blacklist that account right away
After reading about the greylist which apparently bounces everyones email for a while, I would suggest no unless you are going to whitelist all current subscribers and make it only greylist new emailers. On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:41 am, Michael Shiloh wrote: Thanks Harish, I'll forward your suggestion to our IT person. Regards, Michael Harish Pillay wrote: May I make a suggestion to whoever is running this mailing list to add the greylist technique to it as well? I have had milter-greylist running on my main email servers for over 12 months now, and the amount of spam reaching my users/mailing lists has gone down to almost zero. Thanks. [1]http://hcpnet.free.fr/milter-greylist/ [2]http://harishpillay.livejournal.com/2007/01/17/ --- Harish Pillay [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg id: 74609E3 fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community www.GlobalBoiling.com for daily images about hurricanes, globalwarming and the melting poles. www.ElectricQuakes.com daily solar and earthquake images. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: need someone to develop this....
Although the disclosure itself in a trackable dated message forum would seem to prove pretty conclusivly that AT THAT TIME anyway you had the idea. So it dates the idea As to whether or not it is public well that perhaps depends perhaps on the exclusivity of the forum. Additionally there are many people who you can disclose ideas to without it being deemed public. For example within a work organization. Or within your lawyer or legal advisors office. Or within a group of coinventors. A message forum could easily be a considered most of those even if it was not formed for profit or for the benefit of all involved. Indeed many work organizations don't benefit all involved. However, in practical terms it's more difficult to prove original invention once disclosure is made unles you keep a detailed, dated notebook (in ink). On Dec 1, 2007 12:23 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 01 December 2007 08:34:08 GWMobile wrote: I don't think discussing this here would be considered an open disclosure. Talking on a finite list or limited membership with moderation and thus controlled membership is not necessarily open disclosure and not the same as a public printing therefore I think it would still be patentable. You are aware that most mailing lists are archived and indexed by Google, aren't you? By every sane meaning of public, this is public. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community www.GlobalBoiling.com for daily images about hurricanes, globalwarming and the melting poles. www.ElectricQuakes.com daily solar and earthquake images. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: need someone to develop this....
I don't think discussing this here would be considered an open disclosure. Talking on a finite list or limited membership with moderation and thus controlled membership is not necessarily open disclosure and not the same as a public printing therefore I think it would still be patentable. On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 2:33 pm, Dean Collins wrote: This is too perfect. What a cool idea - seriously unfortunately now that you've published here is no longer able to be but was worthy of a patenting. Not only could the method of shaking but the timing of shaking could have been the key. Eg hold two devices next to each other and shake them up and down - because of the semi-physical connection they would have the same accelerometer readings this couldn't be replicated unless you had someone 'watching' you move them up and down and was copying the movements within the tolerance errors. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:35 PM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re: need someone to develop this If Bob (or Alice) hands his (or her) phone to the other, then if both phones are shaken in the same hand, the acceleration pattern might provide an extremely unique yet similar signature, not unlike exchanging an encryption key. So if you want to establish a trusted relationship with another Neo user, the two phones are shaken together until the software indicates that you have generated a complex enough pattern that has been recognized on the other. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Darwin Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 4:35 PM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re: need someone to develop this Michael, this is (I think) brilliant! We could call it... the handshake (OK, anyone who doesn't know why that's funny, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handshaking). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community www.GlobalBoiling.com for daily images about hurricanes, globalwarming and the melting poles. www.ElectricQuakes.com daily solar and earthquake images. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: google open phone platform
Also people always want choices. Having goolge out there would draw attention to this concept and have 4000 times as many people looking for a device. Some of those will choose neo. On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 3:48 pm, AVee wrote: On Monday 05 November 2007 21:05, Dean Collins wrote: Yep pretty much. There is a time and a window for technology releases like this and FIC's time has come and gone. I hate to put it bluntly but; It's not hard to think about things like an opensource mobile OS's. It's not even that hard to convince someone to invest in it. It is hard to get out Beta and then retail 1.0 but the really hard part is being able to invest time and time again in new ideas to be on the breaking edge of technology and innovation. It was FIC's window 6-8 months ago but now when the industry stalwarts are crashing at your door it's time to close up shop, sit on the beach and think of the next coolest thing. It's not gone yet. However it is not uncommon for big companies to try and make a lot off fuss about a non yet existing product, just to create enough anticipation to keep people from moving elswhere. As Microsoft when WinFS will be finished, it was supposed to be in XP, it's still not there in Vista. But all the time it was a reason not to switch to an OS with a better filesystem, because WinFS was going to deliver that 'Really Soon Now(TM)'. The same thing is happening here, they said handsets will be available in the second half of 2008. That's another 6 months at the very least. Normally 'the second half of the year' means, we really hope to get it done this year, but we might not be able to make it. The reason they announce so early is simply to create enough buzz so people will postpone buying a new phone until they are done. If FIC manages to deliver before the first google phone they are still in the game. And if the software Google is planning really is as open as they claim it is the Neo might even become the first phone that will run this stuff. They said, minimum reqs is about a 200MHz ARM9 so that shouldn't be the problem. If that works out Google may just have jumpstarted the launch of the Neo, time will tell. AVee ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community www.GlobalBoiling.com for daily images about hurricanes, globalwarming and the melting poles. www.ElectricQuakes.com daily solar and earthquake images. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors
The tphone chinese I phone knockoff has more feature and sells for $200 retail. It has apentouchscreen but other than that has amny more features. Runs linux . Any provider, two sim card slots for provider swicthing. Memeory card slot. On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:26 am, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: On 9/7/07, Peter Viani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/7/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/7/07, Nkoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mass produced version will be $450. There will also be the issue of nokia's upcoming touchscreen device to contend with. I think it will need to be $300 or less to sell large quantities. I agree. Without 3G and/or a more competitive price point, I can't see this becoming much more than a small niche product. I think it is important to get the neo1973v2 out on sale as soon as possible. Then we can make software that may defend the price. I don't think the basic version could be sold for any less than $400. Maybe the advanced kit could be sold for $500? I don't know. But I think that the phone is so special that it can defend the price. It just need some good looking, well featured and optimized software. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community www.GlobalBoiling.com for daily images about hurricanes, globalwarming and the melting poles. www.ElectricQuakes.com daily solar and earthquake images. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Open moko round bottom Re: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.
Sounds like a great market for a small plastic slip on square bottom piece to solve the problem. On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 2:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, while I'm at it (and I have your attention), there are a few horifically basic handset design issues that need to be addressed in future FIC/OpenMoko hardware designs that looking at the iPhone makes painfully obvious: 1) Shape. The hemisphere on the bottom of the GTA01/02 phone will not allow the phone to remain upright in a breast pocket. It will always cant to one side or the other. The bottom needs to be pretty much squared off. Doing my best to not sound Pissed off or Disgruntled here... Alan Unfortunately this is half the story. Whatever I ever kept in my pocket fell out and broke if my pocket was not buttoned at the top. Glasses phones pdas ... you name it. The requirement to have your pocket buttoned up is way more important. So the requirement that it must be flat at the bottom is superficial. I prefer the aesthetic look of the Neo and there is nothing more comfortable to handle than a symmetric design. Point in case, a classical rounded edge shaped bar of soap is the easiest to handleSquare soap never worked for me. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community www.GlobalBoiling.com for daily images about hurricanes, globalwarming and the melting poles. www.ElectricQuakes.com daily solar and earthquake images. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
