Re: QtMoko and X applicatiions
On 1/24/13, Iain B. Findleton ifindle...@videotron.ca wrote: Is there any easy way to run X applications under QtMoko? I'm not mush of a Qt person, and QtMoko does not appear to have X set up by default. There's an application that comes with QtMoko called QX. QtMoko runs entirely off the framebuffer by default, but QX is sort of like having the X Server inside an application. You choose a command to run in QX and it just works. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel panic on Freerunner QtMoko boot
On 12/5/12, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:20:55 PM Harry Prevor wrote: You can find and revert the qi commit here: https://github.com/radekp/qi I'm not sure what you mean by this so I didn't do it. Do I really need to make changes to Qi just to create a current jffs2 QtMoko image? Yes you really have to rebuild Qi, the ubifs command line is hardcoded there and you need to change it to jffs2 command line. Why is it that I can already boot, for example, Hackable1, which uses jffs2, with my current version of Qi, but I can't boot a jffs2 QtMoko without making changes to Qi then? What is the difference between Hackable1's jffs2 and QtMoko's jffs2? Also, installing QtMoko to microSD would theoretically fix all of this, right? -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel panic on Freerunner QtMoko boot
Looks like my previous message didn't go through. Here's what it said: On 12/2/12, Harry Prevor habsti...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/12, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Friday, November 23, 2012 03:33:42 PM Harry Prevor wrote: Can jffs2 images of QtMoko still be produced? I'm kind of hesitant to try the v26 release because I'd like to have the latest version for my Freerunner. What exact changes would I have to make to my tarball, and how would I go about changing bootloader arguments? You can find and revert the qi commit here: https://github.com/radekp/qi I'm not sure what you mean by this so I didn't do it. Do I really need to make changes to Qi just to create a current jffs2 QtMoko image? You can easily create jffs2 image from the tarbal as documented here: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/doc/txt/debian_rootfs_howto.txt I tried to do this today, however I got stuck at some parts: 1. I can skip everything from Step 8 - install QtMoko except for what's under * Install it because I'm not uploading anything to SourceForge, right? 2. How would I go about completing the Step 9 - Linux kernel step? Should everything in this step be done in the qemu buildhost? Can I just download a source tarball instead of using git to check it out? What tarball should I download in that case? Thanks for your help. -- Harry Prevor -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel panic on Freerunner QtMoko boot
On 11/23/12, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Friday, November 23, 2012 03:33:42 PM Harry Prevor wrote: Can jffs2 images of QtMoko still be produced? I'm kind of hesitant to try the v26 release because I'd like to have the latest version for my Freerunner. What exact changes would I have to make to my tarball, and how would I go about changing bootloader arguments? You can find and revert the qi commit here: https://github.com/radekp/qi I'm not sure what you mean by this so I didn't do it. Do I really need to make changes to Qi just to create a current jffs2 QtMoko image? You can easily create jffs2 image from the tarbal as documented here: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/doc/txt/debian_rootfs_howto.txt I tried to do this today, however I got stuck at some parts: 1. I can skip everything from Step 8 - install QtMoko except for what's under * Install it because I'm not uploading anything to SourceForge, right? 2. How would I go about completing the Step 9 - Linux kernel step? Should everything in this step be done in the qemu buildhost? Can I just download a source tarball instead of using git to check it out? What tarball should I download in that case? Thanks for your help. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel panic on Freerunner QtMoko boot
On 11/21/12, Ivan Matveev imatvee...@nm.ru wrote: I had a similar problem. Somehow it went away. See http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-January/066196.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2011-December/065998.html Hm. Oddly enough, I tried exactly that (flashing the kernel to u-boot, then reflashing qi, the kernel, and the rootfs all to their correct places), and I'm still getting the same panic. Right now I've got Hackable1 running because it was jffs2, but I'd really like to run QtMoko on my Freerunner. I was able to flash the QtMoko ubifs image a few weeks ago and it worked, so it's odd how nothing seems to be working now. Out of curiosity, why was the switch to ubifs made? Can jffs2 images of QtMoko still be produced? I'm kind of hesitant to try the v26 release because I'd like to have the latest version for my Freerunner. What exact changes would I have to make to my tarball, and how would I go about changing bootloader arguments? I'm not sure if I have Qi installed correctly, which may also be the issue; I flashed it successfully to u-boot, but when I boot while holding AUX to get to DFU mode where I do my flashing I still see U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 at the top and *** BOOT MENU (NOR) *** as a header. Should I be seeing Qi instead? Any ideas about the above issues? -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel panic on Freerunner QtMoko boot
Oddly enough, I am still getting this same UBIFS kernel panic even when I successfully flash a JFFS2 image I made of QtMoko onto the Freerunner. I made the image by unzipping the .tar.gz rootfs from SourceForge into a folder and then running mkfs.jffs2 -r qtmoko-rootfs/ -p -e 0x2 -o qtmoko-debian-gta02-v48.jffs2 on the folder. I then ran dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtmoko-debian-gta02-v48.jffs2 and it seemed to have flashed successfully, but I still get that darn error on every boot. I've also tried unzipping the .tar.gz into my ext3 uSD card, but it didn't seem to do anything either. Is there any reason that this should be happening? Are there any officially released non-UBIFS rootfses that I can use for the Freerunner? What specifically would y'alls reccommend to debug / fix this? -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel panic on Freerunner QtMoko boot
On 11/16/12, Harry Prevor habsti...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks ahead of time for responses. Well, I've decided to transcribe the entire picture for these five reasons: 1. I was somewhat bored; 2. The phone is useless without an operating system anyways; 3. I figure that posting information in text form may bring that one UNIX old-timer that reads all their mail in Pine one step closer to helping me; 4. I'd like to bump up my thread but posting something along the lines of BUMP! would be a bit too cliché; 5. I am absolutely desperate for any help or tips whatsoever anyone can provide, even if they are wrong. The transcribed text follows: [3.99] mmc0: queuing unknown CIS tuple 0x1b (8 bytes) [4.01] s3c-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 25000kHz (requested: 25000kHz). [4.02] s3c-sdi s3c2440-sdi: running at 25000kHz (requested: 25000kHz). [4.03] mmc0: queuing unknown CIS tuple 0x80 (1 bytes) [4.04] mmc0: queuing unknown CIS tuple 0x81 (1 bytes) [4.05] mmc0: queuing unknown CIS tuple 0x82 (1 bytes) [4.06] mmc0: new SDIO card at address 0001 [4.26] No device for DAI s3c24xx-i2s [4.27] No device for DAI Bluetooth [4.29] asoc: WM8753 HiFi - s3c24xx-i2s mapping ok [4.30] asoc: WM8753 Voice - Bluetooth mapping ok [4.71] input: neo1973gta02 Headset Jack as /devices/platform/soc-audio/sound/card0/input5 [4.74] ALSA device list: [4.75] #0: neo1973gta02 (WM8753) [4.76] TCP westwood registered [4.77] NET: Registered protocol family 17 [4.78] Bridge firewalling registered [4.86] BMI Get Target Info: Exit (ver: 0x2059 type: 0x1) [4.93] regulator_init_complete: incomplete constraints, leaving memldo on [4.96] regulator_init_complete: incomplete constraints, leaving hcldo on [4.98] AR6000 Reg Code = 0x4060 [5.11] pcf50633-rtc pcf50633-rtc.0: setting system clock to 2000-01-01 05:38:23 UTC (946705103) [5.12] UBIFS error (pid 1): ubifs_get_sb: cannot open ubi0:om-gta02-rootfs, error -19 [5.13] VFS: Cannot open root device ubi0:om-gta02-rootfs or unknown-block(0,0) [5.14] Please append a correct root= boot option; here are the available partitions: [5.15] 1f002048 mtdblock0 (driver?) [5.16] 1f01 256 mtdblock1 (driver?) [5.15] 1f02 256 mtdblock2 (driver?) [5.15] 1f038192 mtdblock3 (driver?) [5.15] 1f04 640 mtdblock4 (driver?) [5.15] 1f05 256 mtdblock5 (driver?) [5.15] 1f06 252544 mtdblock6 (driver?) [5.22] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) [5.23] Backtrace: [5.24] [c002b66c] (dump_backtrace+0x0/0x10c) from [c032b994] (dump_stack+0x18/0x1c) [5.25] r7:8001 r6:c0024a08 r5:c7ca r4:c0423a30 [5.27] [c032b97c] (dump_stack+0x0/0x1c) from [x032b9e4] (panic+0x4c/0xc8) [5.28] [c032b998] (panic+0x0/0xc8) from [c0008f20] (mount_block_root+0x1f8/0x2bc) [5.29] r3:c7c72ccc r2: r1:c7c19f78 r0:c03aa02c [5.30] [c0008d28] (mount_block_root+0x0/0x2bc) from [c00090e4] (prepare_namespace+0x94/0x1d0) [5.31] [c0009050] (prepare_namespace+0x0/0x1d0) from [c00084dc] (kernel_init+0x10c/0x148) [5.32] r5:c0023d74 r4:c0423080 [5.33] [c00083d0] (kernel_init+0x0/0x148) from [c00403a0] (do_exit+0x0/0x654) [5.34] r5: r4: Looking forward to any responses. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ten general QtMoko and Debian questions
Thanks for all the detailed responses guys. I've decided to install QtMoko and I'm liking it a lot so far; only thing is that I'm not able to send SMS (but I can receive) while I was able to send in SHR. Trying to figure that out as well as get ATT's GPRS working now. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Ten general QtMoko and Debian questions
I just aquired a Freerunner, and after checking out the list of distributions on the wiki I've narrowed it down to Debian and QtMoko. I'm leaning toward QtMoko but I'm unsure about a few things: 1. What are the advantages to using QTMoko over Debian on a Freerunner? 2. I like that it is built for touch by default in QtMoko but would also like to fall back to a desktop-like environment when needed (i.e. something like Openbox that isn't optimized for touch); this is possible, no? 3. Does QTMoko offer all the software in the Debian repositories? 4. Can I install a different window manager than the default one if wanted? 5. Are there any glaring software limitations regarding the Freerunner that QtMoko has that Debian doesn't? 6. They both use the same kernel, right? 7. From what I've seen it seems like QtMoko is being more actively developed than Debian on the Freerunner currently; is this true? 8. If I prefer the debian-unstable packages can I use that repository on QtMoko? 9. If I were to upgrade to a GTA04 at some point, would the transition be any easier on one distribution than the other? 10. Is either distribution more thouroughly tested with the GTA04 than the other? Thanks ahead of time for the answers. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
On 10/31/12, Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote: Hi Paul, I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still today. Thanks for pointing it out. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Hi Harald, all, To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly forever. Please reconsider this. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The University of São Paulo's intent to join Op enmoko development
Nice to hear good news from maddog, but I am curious how many Freerunner that Koolu will buy from Openmoko? Harry 2009/7/13 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org Brenda, Brenda Wang wrote: +1 It's really great to hear this. In Taiwan, Tsing Hua university also has a OPENlab. I would like to work with the community to engage various universities, but as I have mentioned before, with limited resources and a press to get the Openmoko program stable and moving forward again, I think we need to do this systematically and directly. In the meantime, do you have a contact name for the OPENlab at Tsing Hua University? Warmest regards, maddog ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Harry's openmoko suvey, Please help !!!
Dear Community, Sorry, I really need your help to fill the survey, I will very appreciate your kindly help !!! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Harry Thanks and BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Harry's openmoko suvey, Please help !!!
2009/3/2 B bburde...@comcast.net Yorick Moko wrote: this is why i'm mailing; what does BR stand for? :) Along those same lines, what is RD/HW and RD/SW in the survey? I'm guessing research and development/hardware and research and development/software. Yes, you are right!! maybe I should modify it to more clearly.thanks !! Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Harry's openmoko suvey, Please help !!!
Yes, sometimes the server showed error message, I guess maybe too busy!! Don't give up, try it again please ;) Harry 2009/3/2 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com I hope the best for you on your master :) good luck Harry 2009/3/1 Michael Fisher desno...@gmail.com: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Harry Tsai tsaiha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Community, Sorry, I really need your help to fill the survey, I will very appreciate your kindly help !!! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Harry Thanks and BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I'm getting a network timeout or bad url when attempting to click on survey link. Maybe too busy?? -- Michael Fisher desno...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Harry's academy survey is reopening, Please help !!
Dear Community, Thanks for helping from community and my openmoko colleagues, this academy survey is reopening now. Please access the online survey: http://www.t0ny.net/harrytsai/index.php?sid=45769lang=en I am trying to through this survey to get more clear opinions and information from the Openmoko community then I will use those feedback to finish my research. I hope this research is positive to helps more people to understand what community is, I also expect this thesis is helpful to promotes Free and Open Source Software movement. Your kindly support is much appreciated. Thanks and BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Academy research for this community. Please hlep!!
Dear Community, I am Harry, previous openmoko sales staff, I hope everyone remember me. ;) Currently, I am studying hard for my Master thesis research, the subject is about interaction about openmoko community and openmoko company. I am trying to through this survey to get more clear opinions and information then share the knowledge and result to help people understand what community is, I also expect this report is helpful to promote free open source software movement. I really need your kindly support to finish this survey. much appreciated in advance. Pls access this link: http://www.t0ny.net/harrytsai/index.php?sid=45769lang=en BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Academy research for this community. Please hlep!!
Dear All, Thanks , I received many feedback from community, and I will close this survey temporary for questions pulsihment. By the way, if you are interested to work it with me pls feel free contact with me. BR Harry 2009/2/17 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Harry Tsai tsaiha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Community, I am Harry, previous openmoko sales staff, I hope everyone remember me. ;) Currently, I am studying hard for my Master thesis research, the subject is about interaction about openmoko community and openmoko company. I am trying to through this survey to get more clear opinions and information then share the knowledge and result to help people understand what community is, I also expect this report is helpful to promote free open source software movement. I really need your kindly support to finish this survey. much appreciated in advance. Pls access this link: http://www.t0ny.net/harrytsai/index.php?sid=45769lang=en BR Harry good luck! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
sho milestone 5 actally gives me hope
i can tap type into a working terminal. seemingly no access to wifi (no iwconfig, or ipconfig) it doesn't seem to like my uSD card. not at all sure why. have to pull it and look at it in another computer -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
massive forward progress
I moved my freerunner host to new hardware and a new version of ubuntu (jaunty jacalope) and the usb networking is vastly more stable, so i'm able to play on the freerunner much more comfortably. what i think i'd like to do is find a stock, working full on debian system that actually has working wifi, annd usb that i can install wiith 2 flash operations, one for the kernel, one for the file system (jffs2?) does such a thing exist? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
running debian install.h
how long does it sit at ? *** * WARNING * *** This will destroy all the data on the microSD card!!! Press any key within 5 seconds to quit -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
can anyone clue me in on how the install.sh script works? it
it appears to be an xml file to me. -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] install.sh questions
install.sh questions: first, how does this thing work? it looks like xml to me. how long does it sit at: Starting to partition the microSD card *** * WARNING * *** This will destroy all the data on the microSD card!!! Press any key within 5 seconds to quit is this dependent on the size of the card? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] finally, it said:
Press any key within 5 seconds to quit Read from remote host fr: Connection timed out Connection to fr closed. -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian]
has anyone here actually compiled debian on the freerunner? details? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
e[sho]ternal usb networking problems
i run ubuntu gutsy, i 've tried every approach in the usb networking doc, except udev, and i can find no combination that gives me a wifi connection to the Net (not optional) AND usb connection to my freerunner. i'm planning on thrashng at 8.10 on my netbook monday. at this point, i've basically decided to throw up my hands and buy a g1 in 2 weeks on the logic that it is actually a supported product. all i really want is working wifi on the freerunner, which does not seem much to ask. -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
i'm confused
i want to try fso i can find a jffs but not a kernel .bin. link anyone? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail). chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
which stacks have the most complete python implementation?
both in terms of the standard python libraries and openmoko access? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[fso]is there any way to accesswifi eitherthrough the ui? the shell?
browser choices? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
confused by fso
where is the kernel for fso. I grabbed: fso-image-om-gta02.tar.gz expecting to find a kernel (ie something called .bin) but when i untarred I got a usr and var is ther a flashable fso kernnel? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: so i try manually starting the x server with:
sorry. i have no flippin idea what i'm using. it was new out of the box 2 days ago. i've done an opkg update and an opkg upgrade. i have not consciously upgrade from what it came with. i think i'm still using 2007.2 it is still spinning through bootish looking text where every third line says adcrdy. if you google adcrdy, you find there are more than a couple people out there suffering the same pain. when i press power, you get a slight change, there is a line that says onkeyf or onkeyr and it looks a little different if you hold it. i can get to openmoko via ssh, but if i do anything that fires up x (the pretty opening means x, correct?) my resolv.conf gets hosed. it fires up x briefly when you reboot from the shell, then you get the good bootish text, then the pretty screen for a minute then i get the bad bootish text, which starts with angstrom spelled out in big letters made out of letters, and then the adcrdy infinite loop. it took about 6 hours to learn that, sorry i was hoping that as it was happening someone wouldsay well of course, you did xyz! abc will fix it! someone named newkirk was very helpful in solving the opkg .conf problems. his fix, by rights, should be integrated into getting started. and thank you newkirk. I have noot been able to get to uboot for a couple reasons: first and formost, it ignores the power button. secondly i have only one working hand which makes pressing two buttons in aco-ordinated manner problematic. ideally it seems there could be a program you could invoke at shell that would reboot you into the uboot environment. I'm sorry if i'm disturbing y'all, but this, apparently is support for this product. i purchased this product in no small part for health reasons, so it is important to me it work reliably expect me to keep making noise until i get it working, at which point i will act as a resource for the next guy. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:47 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: harry, is there any chance you could provide us with clear and full informations? currently it's very hard to understand, what's going on on your side and what exactly your problems are. please, give the following informations and remember, for further posting prepend the subject with the name of the distribution you are using (ie fso, debian, 2007.2, 2008.9, qtopia, ...) - did you flash anything yet? - if so, what exactly (uboot, image)? - what distribution are you using? so far, i know nodm from debian only, but that might be wrong ... - are you running from flash or from sd card? - full error messages, not only guesses - kernel version, u-boot version and, please, refrain from belittling statements -- they are not likely to improve the willingness to help you. and lastly: this is not support, but community -- and even support is mostly a users help users thing ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: so i try manually starting the x server with:
you can't read the tiny message text moving at light speed. i have an 8G uSD installed, not running off it. here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/support/2008-July/68.html is why i mucked with nodm. so this problem has existed since jul-16, which is not very encouraging. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:47 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: harry, is there any chance you could provide us with clear and full informations? currently it's very hard to understand, what's going on on your side and what exactly your problems are. please, give the following informations and remember, for further posting prepend the subject with the name of the distribution you are using (ie fso, debian, 2007.2, 2008.9, qtopia, ...) - did you flash anything yet? - if so, what exactly (uboot, image)? - what distribution are you using? so far, i know nodm from debian only, but that might be wrong ... - are you running from flash or from sd card? - full error messages, not only guesses - kernel version, u-boot version and, please, refrain from belittling statements -- they are not likely to improve the willingness to help you. and lastly: this is not support, but community -- and even support is mostly a users help users thing ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: so i try manually starting the x server with:
thank you very much. i think a flash is the solution, too. why not fdom? On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:09 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: afaik new freeruners still come with 2007.2 -- which in turn is discontinued, ie no upddates. if you run an upgrade with a recent feeds list. you most likely mixed recent 2008.X stuff with the old 2007.2 stuff -- which basically means, your installation is beyond help ... your best bet would be to flash a recent image of 2008.12 (which is said to be a good choice) and a recent u-boot and kernel. please check the list's archives for links, since i am not using 208.12 i do not know where the images for the filesystem and the kernel live. here's the link for u-boot: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin for getting into nor (to flash): - one way could be to turn the fr around, thus your thumb would match the aux button and your index finger hits the pwr. hold the aux and press the pwr until the menu comes up. it is not easy to me, but doable. depending on how long you are single handed you might be better at this than i am with two hands - the other way could be to press aux against some little bump or a pen and press the pwr with the thumb until the menu comes up ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: so i try manually starting the x server with:
i copied this file to my om but can't figger out what to do with it. here's the link for u-boot: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin I tried some pretty creative stuff to press both keys, to no avail. if i press and hold power then press aux, something fundamental should happen, correct? if the power itself does nothing major,might that mean it's just being ignored? On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:09 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: afaik new freeruners still come with 2007.2 -- which in turn is discontinued, ie no upddates. if you run an upgrade with a recent feeds list. you most likely mixed recent 2008.X stuff with the old 2007.2 stuff -- which basically means, your installation is beyond help ... your best bet would be to flash a recent image of 2008.12 (which is said to be a good choice) and a recent u-boot and kernel. please check the list's archives for links, since i am not using 208.12 i do not know where the images for the filesystem and the kernel live. here's the link for u-boot: http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin for getting into nor (to flash): - one way could be to turn the fr around, thus your thumb would match the aux button and your index finger hits the pwr. hold the aux and press the pwr until the menu comes up. it is not easy to me, but doable. depending on how long you are single handed you might be better at this than i am with two hands - the other way could be to press aux against some little bump or a pen and press the pwr with the thumb until the menu comes up ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: so i try manually starting the x server with:
i'll take your advice if i can get it there. that was my goal. i'm eager to try debian On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: why not fdom? simply didn't remember it. take what you like -- but since 2008.12 got some very good critiques and is widely used, i thought it would be a natural choice, in particular for a beginner with the fr. most of the problems you might encounter should be solved already, or at least a workaround/fix should be there. but as said before: use what looks nice to you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: so i try manually starting the x server with:
i actually read that before you linked it. i can't get to the menu where you can flash. if i could, i would, long since have flashed. thus my desire for a small program or the dbg command to get to that menu. i've tried holding power and using my desk to press aux to no effect On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: i copied this file to my om but can't figger out what to do with it. nope. that has to live on your host computer -- you need to flash it to the fr with dfu-util. i strongly suggest, you read the wiki aboput flashing first! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner I tried some pretty creative stuff to press both keys, to no avail. if i press and hold power then press aux, something fundamental should happen, correct? _hold_ AUX, _then_ press PWR and hold until the menu appears -- in this order! to flash at least u-boot you need to be in nor mode. again, see the wiki page mentioned above, there's a section on how to get in nor mode. if the power itself does nothing major,might that mean it's just being ignored? for testing purposes you could hold pwr alone. after a few secs the aux led should flash shortly and the fr should vibrate for a moment and it should start to boot. but afaiu booting itself was no issue, right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: so i try manually starting the x server with:
no buzz no flash. yes, booting is an issue, if i press and hold power long enough, i eventually get an off (black screen) but it stays that way. regardless of button pushes. now it's a complete brick On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: i copied this file to my om but can't figger out what to do with it. nope. that has to live on your host computer -- you need to flash it to the fr with dfu-util. i strongly suggest, you read the wiki aboput flashing first! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner I tried some pretty creative stuff to press both keys, to no avail. if i press and hold power then press aux, something fundamental should happen, correct? _hold_ AUX, _then_ press PWR and hold until the menu appears -- in this order! to flash at least u-boot you need to be in nor mode. again, see the wiki page mentioned above, there's a section on how to get in nor mode. if the power itself does nothing major,might that mean it's just being ignored? for testing purposes you could hold pwr alone. after a few secs the aux led should flash shortly and the fr should vibrate for a moment and it should start to boot. but afaiu booting itself was no issue, right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: so i try manually starting the x server with:
thanks! I was at the boot menu and tried dfu, thus: ha...@galaxy:~$ .//dfu-util -l dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY ha...@galaxy:~$ which does not look encouraging. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote: On Friday 09 January 2009, arne anka wrote: a small program or the dbg command to get to that menu. i've tried holding power and using my desk to press aux to no effect THE OTHER WAY ROUND! sorry for yelling, but you seem to repeatedly miss the point (which is perfectly normal, considering the amount of time you fiddling with this now ;-). HOLD AUX. PRESS PWR. I can do this one handed as follows: Grip the phone with the middle finger on the Aux button and thumb on power. The index finger is on the top, slightly towards the gold coloured socket, and the pinkie is between the headset socket and the speaker grill. Holding the base of the phone (the end with the hole in) against your chest will make pressing the Aux button easier. Press and hold the Aux button, then press and hold the Power button. When both have been down for ~2s the Aux LED will flash and the phone will vibrate, but keep holding the buttons until the menu appears on screen. If you mess up the button presses you may get an unresponsive phone. Don't worry - remove the battery for a few seconds then replace it, wait ~15s then try again. It can be frustrating when you start, but once you get the hang of it it's very easy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2007.2]what does on mean?
getting started saysthe freerunner only charges if it is on. people keep suggesting i have zorched the battery. since I got my fr tuesday, it has either been plugged into the charger or the usb port of my eeepc.if i unplug it, the display keeps showing me the adcrdy loop, which says to me the battery is not flat. is my thinking correct? I have completely bought into the idea of reflashing to get to a clean start. i plan on looking at as many distros as possible: the om official ones first (breadcrumbs home and all that), then fso, then debian, then android. am i missing any? a long message follows describing my boot problems -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2007.2 fr] boot prolems
first off, I am a person with disabilities: my left arm does not function. pre-stroke, I had extensive experience as a developer/engineer in both corporate and FOSS environments. a few falls over he past year convinced me i needed to have a cellphone for a lifeline.i already carry a pda in my shirt pocket, so i need a phone that replaces that functionality, and in 2008, i moved my personal computing environment to strictly FOSS. i have lusted for a freerunner from the first i heard of them. at christmas, i was given enough money to allow me to obtain one. (I live on a fixed and limited income, $400 was a major investment for me.) it came tuesday. (I had pre-read the getting started page.) i charged it for a few hours then slogged through getting it hooked up via usb, then slogged through doing the updates, which did not go well all (but that's another issue for another time.) suffice it to say fr is now in a state where it has no xserver, and endlessly scrolls error messages on the display resulting from the mishmash created by the botched update process. i can access a command shell on the fr via ssh. i can wget so dns is working, as is acccess to the Net as a whole. however I cannot successfully press and hold aux then press power to get to the boot menu. i'm pretty creative about solving you only have one hand problems, but i haven't been able to beat this one. before you try to tell me just do this, pleas try your method with your left (more accurately, non-dominant) hand in its pocket (you'd be amazed how many things you use both for without realizing. it seems there should be a relatively simple software based solution to this problem. the boot menu is just a program, somewhere (I assume in what a dinosaur like me would think of as) the computer's memory space. it would seem if you knew where it was, you could use a debugger to jump to that location and begin execution. it would seem a shell script could accomplish that, or even a small binary executable. if some om zen master could either point out why that wouldn't work, or whip up the appropiate tool, i''d be eternally grateful. -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
since i have adequate uSD, it would seem i could copy the elements to be flashed there, and if some localhost version of dfu-util existed, do the whole flash inside the ssh session. i undrstand this could get tricky,but it still seems do-able -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12]i seem to have a working freerunner!
thanks again for bearing with me and all your suggestions. -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12 and beyond] questions moving forward
diversity wifi seems to see no access points. ubuntu and 2007.2 saw many including the one 4 feet away. i'm confused do i need to go outside or have an antenna for gps? i'm still having problems with the power switch. i did NOT flash uboot (NOR) would that change anything? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] problem flashing u-boot
this command line: ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D uboot.bin yields dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 dfuERROR, clearing status not at least 2 device changes found ?!? Opening USB Device... No such Alternate Setting: u-boot r...@galaxy:/home/harry# a nickel for a clue? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
tnx! I got an 8gb uSD in anticipation of all this. i also have a 16, but i'm loathe to put it in. not quite as shiny as ubuntu is ubuntu doing anything formal in this space? certainly,i'd prefer to live on debian in the absence of ubuntu. from what i read fso is debian based. i'm thrashing on which to install next. on debian i've seen conflicting install methods. evidently there are flashable versions, as well as versions that do what I think of as a net install. i'd like to try both the flash method seems the shortest least painful approach. i'd also like to get my uboot problems resolved. what uboot does one use for debian? On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: Hi Harry, welcome to the list! On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:43 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: since i have adequate uSD, it would seem i could copy the elements to be flashed there, and if some localhost version of dfu-util existed, do the whole flash inside the ssh session. i undrstand this could get tricky,but it still seems do-able There's actually a Debian based distro (using dpkg apt rather than opkg) called Hackable-1 that is under development at the moment that installs to, and boots off, the SD card (needs 2GB or better). http://www.hackable1.org/ This might be more what you are familiar with. The developers are working on making it dist-upgrade'able at the moment, but for now just repartition your SD card, install the tar balls from the site, join the user list and wait for the announcement that dist-upgrade'ing is working.. ;-) Pros: - Debian! apt-get! shiny! ;-) - Excellent audio quality (for outgoing calls at least) - Abiword - TangoGPS - etc Cons: - No method for suspending yet - Battery meter and apm non-functional with default kernel - Drinks battery (no suspend!) - Can't import contacts into the PIM application (Evolution data server) Personally I'm dual booting my Freerunner now with Qt Extended 4.4.2 in flash as the work-a-day phone and Hackable-1 off the SD card as an experiment. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2007.2] flashing problem another potential solution
cann you set what the default boot device is? if so,how? On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: Hi Harry, welcome to the list! On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:43 pm Harry L. Lee wrote: since i have adequate uSD, it would seem i could copy the elements to be flashed there, and if some localhost version of dfu-util existed, do the whole flash inside the ssh session. i undrstand this could get tricky,but it still seems do-able There's actually a Debian based distro (using dpkg apt rather than opkg) called Hackable-1 that is under development at the moment that installs to, and boots off, the SD card (needs 2GB or better). http://www.hackable1.org/ This might be more what you are familiar with. The developers are working on making it dist-upgrade'able at the moment, but for now just repartition your SD card, install the tar balls from the site, join the user list and wait for the announcement that dist-upgrade'ing is working.. ;-) Pros: - Debian! apt-get! shiny! ;-) - Excellent audio quality (for outgoing calls at least) - Abiword - TangoGPS - etc Cons: - No method for suspending yet - Battery meter and apm non-functional with default kernel - Drinks battery (no suspend!) - Can't import contacts into the PIM application (Evolution data server) Personally I'm dual booting my Freerunner now with Qt Extended 4.4.2 in flash as the work-a-day phone and Hackable-1 off the SD card as an experiment. cheers! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
harshness
so i'm trying to install fdom, so i read ahead a couple steps and decide i need to be sure i could get to the boot menu. (I have a disability, only one working hand, so anything involving the pressing of 2 buttons simultaneously is problematic.) is there a way to force it to boot into the boot menu from an ssh session? if not this would be a nice,and i believe, simple, addition. -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
into wifi
r...@om-gta02:~# iwlist eth0 scan eth0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:0F:66:BA:A8:2F ESSID:sorehead Mode:Master Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) Quality=23/94 Signal level=-72 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm Encryption key:off Extra:bcn_int=100 Cell 02 - Address: 00:E0:98:D2:F2:C4 ESSID:sorehead-outside Mode:Master Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=40/94 Signal level=-55 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm Encryption key:off Extra:bcn_int=200 r...@om-gta02:~# udhcpc udhcpc (v1.9.1) started Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending discover... I know this wap works, or i wouldn't be here. thoughts? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
it appears, i successfully installed the gps stuff
but i find nothing in the ui to invoke is there a cli to start it? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
the powere button is non-responsive
it seems i have an openbrick -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: the powere button is non-responsive
now it is spinning through some bootish looking text ad infinitum. i don't believe i let it discharge, unlless the power from a plugged in eeepc is insufficient. it's pretty much either been plugged into the eeepc or the charger. this is unacceptable. I bought this beast in anticipation of building an appliance to assist the handicapped. so far, i am markedly unimpressed and feeling i wasted $400. ( more after i buy a winmobile device to replace it. with all of M$ problems, winmobile devices pretty much seem to function as expected. On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/1/9 Harry L. Lee ha...@jonesnose.com: it seems i have an openbrick if your battery is flat, that will be the case http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Can.27t_boot_with_discharged_or_missing_battery should answer your questions -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
what is this angstrom crap?
I let it charge on the charger for a while and it's a little better. i usb''d in and rebooted, and it did, sorta, i got the familiar initial boot text, then the openmoko logo with the progress bar, then i got bootish txt tat started out with angstrom spelled out big and back to spinning bootish text with every fourth line adcrdy. i'm going 6to eave t that way plugged into the charger for a while. -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
this looks like it
http://osdir.com/ml/handhelds.openmoko.kernel/2008-03/msg00266.html -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
i found a link that had some suggestions about the acaddy problem, it seemed to indicate the following steps would fix it
and the following happened: ha...@galaxy:~$ ssh r...@openmoko r...@openmoko's password: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed|grep xserver xserver-kdrive - 1:1.3.0.0-r25 - xserver-kdrive-common - 0.1-r27.01 - xserver-kdrive-fbdev - 1:1.3.0.0-r25 - xserver-kdrive-glamo - 1:1.3.0.0+git-r5 - xserver-nodm-init - 1.0-r8 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-kdrive Upgrading xserver-kdrive-glamo on root from 1:1.3.0.0+git-r5 to 2:1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01... Seems I've found a replace xserver-kdrive xserver-kdrive Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-kdrive-glamo. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xservver-kdrive-common Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 4. Collected errors: Cannot find package xservver-kdrive-common. Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update' r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-kdrive-fbdev Upgrading xserver-kdrive-fbdev on root from 1:1.3.0.0-r25 to 1:1.3.0.0-r26... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.3.0.0-r26_armv4t.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.3.0.0-r26_armv4t.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-kdrive-fbdev. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-kdrive-glamo Upgrading xserver-kdrive-glamo on root from 1:1.3.0.0+git-r5 to 2:1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01... Seems I've found a replace xserver-kdrive xserver-kdrive Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr2841+9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r7.01_armv4t.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-kdrive-glamo. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install xserver-nodm-init Upgrading xserver-nodm-init on root from 1.0-r8 to 1.0-r9.3... Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/xserver-nodm-init_1.0-r9.3_all.opk Nothing to be done An error ocurred, return value: 6. Collected errors: Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/xserver-nodm-init_1.0-r9.3_all.opk, error 0 Failed to download xserver-nodm-init. Perhaps you need to run 'opkg update'? r...@om-gta02:~# still spinning and not responding to the power button. do actual openmoko support types read this? -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
so i try manually starting the x server with:
/etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start the openmoko please wait screen comes up for a second, and it drops back into the adcady (or is it adcrdy?) loop. seems like some package that could be installed using opkg could fix it. this apparently also broke resolv.conf my unix is rusty, i'll need to read up on the startup scripts -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
stupid networking question
I have an eeepcwifi'd into the Net, running ubuntu,but when i plug the openmoko into one of its usb ports it goes into wifi reconnection. halp! -- ha...@jonesnose.com Harry L Lee (via gmail) chief cook and bottle washer http://jonesnose.com mailto:ha...@jonesnose.com 207-384-8030 (email preferred) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
is there an effort to port ubuntu to openmoko?
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Webshop reopen
Dear All, Thanks for your continuous support! Our first shipment was sold out much more quickly than we had expected. After so long our second shipment has finally arrived to the States, and today our webshop is officially reopen! With all your support, we are hoping to renew our selling record! Freerunner is running again -Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei?
Any body interested become reseller and provide service to Taiwanese community ? At least, any one can acting order collector, like 10packs order list from community, help to contact people whom want to order Freerunner. you can send email to me, I can tell you how to become a reseller in Taiwan. BR Harry Lin Mac 提到: I'm surprised too, especially here in Taiwan, where openmoko is located. Steve said that Or become a disty and turn a problem into prosperity, but there is no information about how to. Best Regards, Mac Lin Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:16:03 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: trying to buy a freerunner in taipei? On Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 10:31:29AM +0800, MKL23 wrote: What is the requirements to become a distributor? A firm? Or personal workshop? you know how in a major city you can find a handful of little stores usually operated by someone from China or Taiwan, and grab the latest ASUS, or MSI (or FIC) mobo? itd be great if those places had some openmoko stock im pretty shocked there isnt one in Taipei? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ 聰明搜尋和瀏覽網路的免費工具列 — MSN 搜尋工具列 http://toolbar.live.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner group sales in TAIWAN!! Dear Taiwanese pay more attention
Dear All, Mac contact with me for order collection today, if you need freerunner pls contact with him for group order. I am very appreciated his help, pls feel free support his great job. BR Harry Lin Mac 提到: hi, Thanks to the generosity of Harry of openmoko, there will be a group sale in Taiwan for sure. If we can collect 10 piece, then we could have the 10-pack price. But even if we can't , they would still accept the order. One that are interested in Taiwan, please send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and specify the amount of the phone, debug board(DBoard), and spare packs that you want, along with your name and phone number. I hope it could be done fast, so the due date will be 8/17. Than I'll send the order to openmoko. I don't have such group sale experience yet, so mail me if you have any concern or question want to ask. Best Regards, Mac Lin _ 隨身的 Windows Live Messenger 和 Hotmail，不限時地掌握資訊盡在指間 — Windows Live for Mobile http://www.msn.com.tw/msnmobile/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Payment Gateway: Error 500
Dear All, Error 500, mean is your credit card bank won't accept international transaction or they locked your card for huge payment for 10packs , pls call your bank release your card and back to shop again!! Besides, I will inform my payment gateway to watch out our all transaction and ask them make it always smoothly. Freerunner is running fast!!! BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner in Taiwan
Ya, crazy busy..when will you be Taiwan? Harry xming ??: Thanks, Tried to contact Harry by email, but he's too busy :) I won't have reliable internet connection in .tw (not to say none) so may I call OM/FIC's office when I am in Taiwan? Thanks On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xming wrote: Hi all, I will be in Taiwan during July and I would like to pick up a freerunner there. Does anyone knows where to buy? Or can I go by the FIC/OM office and get from the source :) Should be possible. But I'm out of the country so I don't know the if we have any left. Ask Harry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko official resell partners
Dear Community, You should already know Pulster and IDA, they are our official reseller in the Germany and India. Today, I want to introduce new partners in Germany and UK, you can buy freerunner from them for save your shipping cost and time. We also have a formal press will release to public later. Germany Golden Delicious Computers- _http://www.goldelico.com _Dr.Nikolaus Schaller UK TrueBox Technologies - http://www.TrueBox.co.uk Mr. Rob wood Besides, I am talking with CEO of Bearstech France about cooperation, so far they are very closely to become my next official partner. BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko official resell partners
Michael, TRIsoft will work with Golden Delicious Computers as partnership, I do believe you also can buy freerunner from TRIsoft webshop. So, Openmoko with TRisoft is indirect cooperation, I know TRIsoft Mac and Robert very well, they also are good friends for me and openmoko. BR Harry Michael Kluge ??: Hi Harry, no TRIsoft in Germany? Michael Am Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2008 11:43:59 schrieb Harry Tsai: Dear Community, You should already know Pulster and IDA, they are our official reseller in the Germany and India. Today, I want to introduce new partners in Germany and UK, you can buy freerunner from them for save your shipping cost and time. We also have a formal press will release to public later. Germany Golden Delicious Computers- _http://www.goldelico.com _Dr.Nikolaus Schaller UK TrueBox Technologies - http://www.TrueBox.co.uk Mr. Rob wood Besides, I am talking with CEO of Bearstech France about cooperation, so far they are very closely to become my next official partner. BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AW: Openmoko official resell partners
The speed is depends on courier and custom process, we will announce shipping date at right timing soon. Harry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 提到: Is trisoft.de not an official reseller? Which reseller will receive the first phones? thx. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 11.06.2008 11:43 An: List for Openmoko community discussioncommunity@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Openmoko official resell partners Dear Community, You should already know Pulster and IDA, they are our official reseller in the Germany and India. Today, I want to introduce new partners in Germany and UK, you can buy freerunner from them for save your shipping cost and time. We also have a formal press will release to public later. Germany Golden Delicious Computers- _http://www.goldelico.com _Dr.Nikolaus Schaller UK TrueBox Technologies - http://www.TrueBox.co.uk Mr. Rob wood Besides, I am talking with CEO of Bearstech France about cooperation, so far they are very closely to become my next official partner. BR Harry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Europe Distribution
Hi~ Trisoft should clarify the situation to their pre-order customers, in my side I am felt so sad they won't start business with openmoko directly that mean they are still not my official distributor partner in Germany. :-( BR Harry Marnix Klooster 提到: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Harry, | Steven Le Roux wrote: | To resume, there are some dsitributors : | | France : Bearstech | Germany : TRIsoft | Marco Trevisan (Treviño) 提到: | | Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too). On 23-05-08 04:53, Harry Tsai wrote: | Hi all, | Currently, ONLY PULSTER is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU | and He also is our first partner in world. That makes me a bit curious-- when I looked more than a month ago, only TRIsoft took pre-orders of the FreeRunner, and Pulster didn't; or at least I couldn't find any indication. So I ordered a FreeRunner from TRIsoft. Does that mean that I get my phone later than Pulster customers? What does it mean for me that TRIsoft is not an official Openmoko partner? As I said, just curious... Groetjes, ~ Marnix -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFINkbrjn9v+6JsL6sRAse6AJ9Wej+cNc7kOJG6MDtfSbkVMIeuWwCfeSHH LybCl2XpdGnAKr7l3DjSFPQ= =Q9sX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: UK Distribution
Yes, people come from truebox, they are talking to me about become distributor in UK, I still waiting for their decision for build up real business relationship with openmoko like Pluster Germany and IDA system India. I am expecting Truebox can help us to promote Freerunner in UK, if people ask me their position that I will say I hope they are my partner soon but so far they still aren't in my list yet. Hope my reply is clear for you all. Harry Alastair Johnson 提到: - Original Message - From: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Friday, 23 May, 2008 12:14:29 AM GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal Subject: Re: UK Distribution On 22 May 2008, at 22:29, Hugo Mills wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 05:05:47PM +0100, Alastair Johnson wrote: I was going to post this under the European Distribution thread but it seems to have drifted off topic. Shameless self-promotion follows... We will be selling the Freerunner in the UK. The details are still being worked out, but if you register we will keep you updated as things change. https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=OpenMoko One thing that's unclear is whether the European distributors, such as yourselves, will be selling the 10-packs as well as single phones, or whether those are only coming from OpenMoko in the USA. Are you able to give an answer to this question at this point? Indeed. I'm not sure if the group sales thing is going to work in my area, and the £20 saving of the 10-pack doesn't bother me too much, but I do want the headset and whatever goodies are available as part of the 10-pack. I'm almost tempted to buy a 10-pack myself and whack the other 9 on fleaBay, but I don't think my credit card would stand it. If Truebox can offer the goodies then I'd love to purchase from them - 420 Silbury Boulevard is just down the street from me, in fact, so it would be easy to collect my Freerunner the *moment* it arrives. I'll pop in for a chat tomorrow, Alastair, and scrounge a coffee from you. Stroller. Things are unclear at the moment, as you say. When we have some solid details we will post an update. In the meantime I would rather not speculate. I'll take the collection, chat and coffee part off list. Al ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Europe Distribution
Hi all, Currently, ONLY PULSTER is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU and He also is our first partner in world. BR Harry Marco Trevisan (Treviño) 提到: Steven Le Roux wrote: To resume, there are some dsitributors : France : Bearstech Germany : TRIsoft Again there's also Pulster for Germany (and rest of Europe too). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Europe Distribution
Hi all, Currently, ONLY PULSTER is openmoko official partner in Germany and EU and He also is our first partner in world. BR Harry Bastian Muck 提到: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 He is first official distributor. At least this is said at http://www.reuters.com . (Sorry for no link, but I'm not sure if I am allowed to post.) Greetings Bastian Sebastian Billaudelle schrieb: | pulster.eu seems to be the first OFFICIAL distributor in europe! | Freerunner - 299€ | | cheers | Sebastian | | Am Donnerstag, den 22.05.2008, 16:53 +0200 schrieb Steven Le Roux: | | On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Steven Le Roux wrote: | What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) | | | well.. i think that was already answered somewhere in the thread in | other words, but here my short version: | | afaik there will be 2 possibilities: | | - order at the openmoko us based webshop. | - pay in us$ | - pay the (to europe quite high but not unusual) higher shipping fee | - if not in the us: pay the VAT/sales tax of the target country on | recieving the package to the ups guy (usually in cash) | - use a CC (currently JCB, VISA, MASTER. _no_ AMEX afaik) | | - order at a local distributor | - pay the local currency | - pay for shipping if you do not pick it up yourself | - pay the regional tax/vat of your county directly with the device and | shipping | | so the bottomline is: us customers as well as worldwide can very easily | order directly at openmoko. but if you do not want to have the hassle of | transatlantic shipping, different currencies etc or want local | warranty, buy at a local distributor. | | i guess due to the shipping costs its cheaper and less hassle to order | single devices directly at a distributor. also these could have | different payment methods, but thats their decision. | | | kind regards | | -- | | Joachim Steiger | Openmoko Central Services | | | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community | | | To resume, there are some dsitributors : | | France : Bearstech | Germany : TRIsoft | | we don't already know conditions, and prices with Bearstech, but TRIsoft seems to be arrested to 350€ incl VAT (plus fee's shipment) | | -- | Steven Le Roux | Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community | Please do not send me any Microsoft Office documents - I won't accept them! | See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html for more information! | | Sorry! | | | - | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFINhgmlYiDScJJ+7QRAmkRAKDm77MHuMODVPFZ4tmHdt82wmFkrACeMVcR BacCa8e0Hfht9AY+b3/jiek= =SWdQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner Sale Price in India - Official partner with Openmoko
Dear Community, I am so glad to introduce Mr.Rakshat to you all, actually they are our first partner in India market, if you are developer come from India that you can buy Freerunner from him directly for reduce your shipping cot and customs process effort. I will update our other formal resellers to public soon. BR Harry rakshat hooja ??: Ida Systems Pvt Ltd will be reselling the Neo Freerunner in India. After careful consideration the the Retail Price in India has been fixed at Rs 2/-. This includes all taxes, shipping to your address, 30 days return and one year warranty. We are hoping to be able to ship the Freerunners to customers by end May. For more information please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are still a few slots left in our inaugural offer for the first 40 orders of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15399/-. Please mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to pre-book and avail the offer. Thanks Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
Dear Edwin and Community, First, about Pulster and TRIsoft problem ... I made decision to work with both parties, I allowed TRIsoft to start pre-order business when I met them in Cebit. Besides, Christopher, he is my first partner and we had real business relationship for GTA01, actually he had stock for GTA01 and help me to promote it since end of 2007, I do believe we have press to mention about this stuff last year in CES. So, they all are my partner and also are my friend, I told Chris, keep going the business and have fun with Openmoko, any argument is boring for me. We will release our update partner list and our price policy soon, Openmoko will have more and more business partners in near future. Make business simple and easy is my philosophy, I hope my answer is helpful for you. :-) Openmoko Harry Edwin Lock ??: Hello World, Hello Steve! Considering that Neo Freerunner phones can be preordered now at TRIsoft[1] I (and several others) are wondering if TRIsoft is the official reseller for Europe? This question has arisen because Christian Pulster has claimed that an agreement between TRIsoft and OM inc. is non-existant[2] and bases his status of an official reseller on a press release[3]. The question is: Who is correct? Has there been an agreement? Or is this just another case of miscommunication? I would be pleased to get an official answer from an employee. Regards, Edwin Lock [1] http://trisoft.de/openmoko [2] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1258538#msg-1258538 (german) [3] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1259049#msg-1259049 (german) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
