Re: GTA02: NavBoard V3 causing GPS interference
A few comments inside: Pascal Gosselin píše v Čt 07. 02. 2013 v 08:36 -0500: Yesterday I was able to confirm that the installation of the Golden Delicious NavBoard V3 very seriously degrades the performance of GPS when using the built-in GPS antenna. Getting a 3D fix is taking over 20 minutes on average using the built-in GPS antenna. When using an external GPS antenna, the issue goes away and an unaided GPS cold start can be achieved in about 41 to 44 seconds. I suspect that the use of unshielded cabling between the GTA02 is a likely cause. Being in the Avionics business, I am familiar with the use of shielded twisted pair wiring, but generally in large 22AWG (will have to figure out where to source very thin STP cabling). The wires we use to perform this mod is solid core, probably 30 AWG. In avionics, when it is desired to keep a signal from radiating outside a cable (such as Headphone/Microphone wiring), then the shield of only a single side of the cable is terminated to a good grounding point. When instead it is desired that the signal inside a cable be protected from EMI/RFI from the outside, then the shields on both sides of the cable will be terminated to ground We are usually trying to refrain from connecting shileding to ground on both sides as a prevention of grounding loop. . I theorize that only the SCL/SDA would need to be shielded (together in a shielded twisted pair cable ?), Power and Ground may not need to be shielded. We have never twisted two differnet signals together. What about cross-talks? The only type of signal we are twisting together are for example positive and negative leg of RS422 bus. Or A429 (you may be familliar with). This issue seems very similar to the SD Card access/GPS issue of the earlier GTA02s, so I also wonder if a capacitor fix should be looked at in this case as well. -Pascal http://www.wi-flight.net/ Zbynek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02: NavBoard V3 causing GPS interference
Jiří Pinkava píše v Čt 07. 02. 2013 v 18:18 +0100: Dne 7.2.2013 18:00, Hrabosh napsal(a): A few comments inside: Pascal Gosselin píše v Čt 07. 02. 2013 v 08:36 -0500: Yesterday I was able to confirm that the installation of the Golden Delicious NavBoard V3 very seriously degrades the performance of GPS when using the built-in GPS antenna. Getting a 3D fix is taking over 20 minutes on average using the built-in GPS antenna. When using an external GPS antenna, the issue goes away and an unaided GPS cold start can be achieved in about 41 to 44 seconds. I suspect that the use of unshielded cabling between the GTA02 is a likely cause. Being in the Avionics business, I am familiar with the use of shielded twisted pair wiring, but generally in large 22AWG (will have to figure out where to source very thin STP cabling). The wires we use to perform this mod is solid core, probably 30 AWG. In avionics, when it is desired to keep a signal from radiating outside a cable (such as Headphone/Microphone wiring), then the shield of only a single side of the cable is terminated to a good grounding point. When instead it is desired that the signal inside a cable be protected from EMI/RFI from the outside, then the shields on both sides of the cable will be terminated to ground We are usually trying to refrain from connecting shileding to ground on both sides as a prevention of grounding loop. . I theorize that only the SCL/SDA would need to be shielded (together in a shielded twisted pair cable ?), Power and Ground may not need to be shielded. We have never twisted two differnet signals together. What about cross-talks? The only type of signal we are twisting together are for example positive and negative leg of RS422 bus. Or A429 (you may be familliar with). Just ground betwen all data lines is common solution to this. Like GND|DATA|GND|CLK||GND Emited radiation is equal of surface of closed loop betwen GND and signal line. Yes, this is quite common for ribbon cables (like the one for connecting ATA100 hard drives for example). But shielded TWISTED PAIR was mentioned originally... This issue seems very similar to the SD Card access/GPS issue of the earlier GTA02s, so I also wonder if a capacitor fix should be looked at in this case as well. -Pascal http://www.wi-flight.net/ Zbynek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko's new keyboard
The keyboard seems nice and usefull. Are you planning to add Fx (F1-F12) keys too? I was always missing them when I was using mc on FR. Z. robin píše v St 09. 05. 2012 v 21:29 +: great work! I am looking forward to updating qtmoko!! I don't know too much about virtual keyboards but I was wondering if the meego keyboard might offer some code to be reused: https://wiki.maliit.org/Main_Page br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner looses the date when battery is away for short time
Frank píše v Po 09. 04. 2012 v 10:02 +0200: Am 09.04.2012 08:59, schrieb Matthias Apitz: When I remove the battery from my FR, for example to change the SIM, it looses now(?) the date in hwclock and starts with 01.01.2000; I have to set the date and time again with ... matthias That seems to be normal. My FR also looses time when the battery is removed for a short time. AFAIR there is a backup (button cell) battery on the FR mainboard. PS .. My FR keeps date, time and all the settings after replacing SIM or SD card... Idea: Buffer it with USB-Power? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] screen locking application?
On Monday 05 of March 2012 10:09:11 Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday 04 March 2012 23:14:36 Andrey Mitroshin wrote: Hello, Is there some application for qtmoko to lock the device so nobody can get personal information from the device in the case device being lost or stolen? No - i think you would need to extend current qtmoko's lock screen or write alternative one. Regards Radek BTW .. would it be possible to run TrueCrypt on FreeRunner? Zb. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards
On Thursday 01 of March 2012 23:59:39 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: You can just install latest eagle 6.1 (win, linux, mac) and use it with light license for free which limits to 100x80mm board size and 2 layers. This freeware version exists as long as i can remember for eagle. :) I don't want limits, sorry :-) Personally speaking, I absolutely don't care as far as the board this thread is about is not reaching these limits. Eagle is very commonly used by people having interest in HW design and electronic and I'm sure that many of them will appreciate what Nikolaus offered. Zb. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Storage
On Monday 27 of February 2012 08:51:32 Radek Polak wrote: On Thursday 23 February 2012 20:32:38 Hrabosh wrote: Hi All, anyone knows where to set what partition (or directory) should be visible when FR is connected to the PC as an USB storage device? If I plug my FR ( running QtMoko v37) to the computer (no matter if Linux or Windows) I can see only first 40MB partition of my SD card. You can have a look at /opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-mass-storage-on.sh and modify it to fit you. Seems to be working, thank you !! Zbynek Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
USB Storage
Hi All, anyone knows where to set what partition (or directory) should be visible when FR is connected to the PC as an USB storage device? If I plug my FR ( running QtMoko v37) to the computer (no matter if Linux or Windows) I can see only first 40MB partition of my SD card. Thank for help ! Hrabosh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA04
+1 Thank you, :-) On Monday 05 of December 2011 13:01:16 Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani wrote: On 12/03/2011 12:00 PM, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote: thanks (as ususal) for your great work. Yes, please do a GTA02 release if possible. Especially the keyboard was one reason why Qtmoko may have not been as popular as it deserves to be. With the big landscape keyboard this will all change! BR Robin +1 +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] How do you manage your free space ?
My whole system runs from the card. I don't use internal memory for nothing but some dated QtMoko for the case of the card (or system on the card) failure. (I use my FR as daily and the only phone). Hrabosh Xavier Cremaschi píše v Pá 05. 08. 2011 v 19:01 +0200: Hi folks, my operating system is on the internal memory, and all my data (maps, music) are on a 8Gb micro sd card. But if I want to install a standard Linux application with aptitude (something like tangogps for example) it will take almost all my free space (~100mo IIRC) because of dependencies. How do you manage your free space ? Did you put a part of your system on the micro sd too ? If yes which one ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: navit in QTmoko: Map don't follow actual position
Hallo Frank, is your GPSD daemon running? Is it configured properly? If my Navit works (i.e. has current position), I can see actual coordinates in Action menu below the car icon (in the middle of left row). My navit.xml is attached. BTW ... I have nothing on the screen but the map and + - icons. If you managed to get ETA time, trip length, next turn, etc. information on the screen, could you please share your navit.xml? Thanks, Hrabosh Frank píše v Pá 05. 08. 2011 v 20:47 +0200: Hallo, I try to run navit on my freerunner. - QTmoko v35 - navit Version: 0.2.0~svn3501+dfsg.1-1 I downloaded and installed a OSM-Map for Germany. I see this map and can zoom and pan but ... My problem now is: The map is *not* centered on my actual position from GPS. I tried to configure some vehicle-Tags in /home/root/.navit/navit.xml vehicle name=.. profilename=car enabled=yes active=0 source=gpsd://localhost gpsd_query=w+xj follow=3 But on navit's gui I only see the default DEMO-Vehicle which has no GPSD-source. Can someone send me an example for a working freeruner-proved 'navit.xml' or a vehicle-Tag that follows GPS? How can I test, that navit gets the actual position from GPS-deamon? navit-xml.tar.gz Description: application/compressed-tar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner - repairable?
Patryk Benderz píše v Čt 04. 08. 2011 v 10:02 +0200: [cut] I left it on the windowsill with battery removed (but was too afraid to open the case). Do yoy think it was enough? definitely not. You need to open the case and clean the residue. Especially if the water was not clean (like from a lake) or salty. If you are afraid you can always ask someone skilled to do it. True! You have to open it, unplug each internal cable (display unit, maybe something more) and clean everything with alcohol, flux remover or something similar. It is not a rocket sience :-) You just need to get rid of the fear of using a screw driver on $300 unit. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner - repairable?
Alexander Lehner píše v Čt 04. 08. 2011 v 23:21 +0200: On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Hrabosh wrote: Patryk Benderz pí?e v ?t 04. 08. 2011 v 10:02 +0200: [cut] I left it on the windowsill with battery removed (but was too afraid to open the case). Do yoy think it was enough? definitely not. You need to open the case and clean the residue. Especially if the water was not clean (like from a lake) or salty. If you are afraid you can always ask someone skilled to do it. True! You have to open it, unplug each internal cable (display unit, maybe something more) and clean everything with alcohol, flux remover or something similar. It is not a rocket sience :-) You just need to get rid of the fear of using a screw driver on $300 unit. Well, it somehow is, concerning the GPS antenna (whose satelites are transported by rockets). I already broke one GPS antenna cable and that is for sure unrepairable with usual soldering tools. But the rest of my phone has survived many, many (dis-)assembling steps without problems. Instructions for example: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo_1973 My point was that you don't have to be super-skilled to do that, you just have to be CAREFULL. BTW ... my GPS antena survived all my dis/assembling steps, but I tore off bluetooth module once :-( A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner - repairable?
omcomali@porcupinefactory.org píše v St 03. 08. 2011 v 19:04 +0200: Hi all, Last week I was unfortunate enough to have my Freerunner submerged in a lake for a short moment. While I took out the battery immediately, it doesn't quite work any more. It spent about 10 secs underwater, and after a few days of drying, it seems to boot properly both from NAND menu and plain power-button method. How were you drying it? Hrabosh The problem is, the screen goes gradually white at some points during boot (but not on the SHR-Today screen, where the screen shows distorted copies of the screen). I tried reflashing a newer SHR version, but apparently the drawing methods are still the same. There's a video of the boot process here: http://porcupinefactory.org/data/brokenFR.avi (5 MB). After the video ends, the screen goes white again. It doesn't show NAND boot menu which works fine. Can anyone point me to which replaceable part may be broken? Is it the whole screen module that needs to be replaced? Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] screen locking application?
Matthias Apitz píše v Čt 28. 07. 2011 v 21:57 +0200: El día Thursday, July 28, 2011 a las 12:33:33PM -0700, Alishams Hassam escribió: 2008.9 is *very* dated. Try qtmoko or SHR- both offer a lock, but by default it's a simple slider- I've never had that accidentally fail. I I know that 2008.9 is *very* dated. But it just works for me for years now and fits what I need. As well the FR is my only cellphone and I use it daily, I depend on it somehow and can't experiment with updating to something I don't know. Maybe I should buy a second FR for this... (offers are welcome :-) ) Just a note: If you run your system from internal memory, you can make image of it via USB, do update and if it won't work just copy your previous image back to the phone. If you run the system from uSD, just buy another card :-) recall a program for SHR that did the lock a different way, tracing a Z or something I don't know if it's still available. Thanks for the pointers anyway matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: BT simple-agent
QtMoko v35. Hrabosh Timo Juhani Lindfors píše v Út 26. 07. 2011 v 11:00 +0300: Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz writes: root@Holly:~# /etc/myscripts/simple-agent hci0 D2:2C:26:BF:F8:83 RequestPinCode (/org/bluez/937/hci0/dev_D2_2C_26_BF_F8_83) Enter PIN Code: Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationFailed: Authentication Failed Not that I could help yet but which distro is this? -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
BT simple-agent
Hi all, I'm still trying to make my BT keyboard work with FR. When I run simple-agent to pair my keyboard with the phone, I got Authentification.Failed root@Holly:~# /etc/myscripts/simple-agent hci0 D2:2C:26:BF:F8:83 RequestPinCode (/org/bluez/937/hci0/dev_D2_2C_26_BF_F8_83) Enter PIN Code: Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationFailed: Authentication Failed It appears right after I type and hit Enter on the BT keyboard. Anyone know what is wrong or how do I verbose the process of pairing so I could find out what is the kayboard actually sending to my phone? BTW... keyboard works fine with my laptop. Thank you, Hrabosh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: BT simple-agent
I've just tryied to dump the BT traffic and it seems that the keyboard is sending as expected. See one line from the dump: ^D^W^���,�^D^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ - those four zeroes are the PIN. How come that simple-agent refuses to pair the device?? Hrabosh Hrabosh píše v Út 26. 07. 2011 v 08:14 +0200: Hi all, I'm still trying to make my BT keyboard work with FR. When I run simple-agent to pair my keyboard with the phone, I got Authentification.Failed root@Holly:~# /etc/myscripts/simple-agent hci0 D2:2C:26:BF:F8:83 RequestPinCode (/org/bluez/937/hci0/dev_D2_2C_26_BF_F8_83) Enter PIN Code: Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationFailed: Authentication Failed It appears right after I type and hit Enter on the BT keyboard. Anyone know what is wrong or how do I verbose the process of pairing so I could find out what is the kayboard actually sending to my phone? BTW... keyboard works fine with my laptop. Thank you, Hrabosh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth keyboards
Any update on BT kayboard? I got mine a few days ago and although it works with my Linux laptop (connecting using Gnome panel applet), I'm not able to use it with FR. I've found both articles on Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#HID_.28Human_Input_Device.29 but the commands doesn't seem to be working. I'm getting the best results with hdid --connect ADDRESS after which command I have this in dmesg: [10713.02] Bluetooth: HIDP (Human Interface Emulation) ver 1.2 [10802.37] input: Broadcom Corp. Keyboard as /devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:42/input6 [10802.38] generic-bluetooth 0005:0A5C:8502.0001: input: BLUETOOTH HID v1.1b Keyboard [Broadcom Corp. Keyboard] on 00:06:6E:17:29:5E And if I cat /dev/input/event6 I can see some garbage on the screen while pressing buttons on my keyboard. But If I open terminal or new message dialog, I can't see any letters while typing on the keyboard. Thanks , Hrabosh Al Johnson píše v Po 02. 05. 2011 v 12:41 +0100: An alternative could be the one from the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freedom_Slim_Keyboard But there is no mention of qtmoko support? The distro only has to serve the needed bt-tools, then everything will work. I recently bought the following one: http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260747301433ssPageName= STRK:MEWNX:IT which is quite cheep, small and light. It can pair with QtMoko but I can't use it for input. I tested it with the iphone of a colleague and, indeed, it works. Did you connecting to the keyboard manually after pairing? Depending on whether QtMoko is using bluez3 or bluez4 the method is slightly different, but both are in the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#HID_.28Human_Input_Device.29 If it works after manual connection then adding a GUI for it should be relatively simple. If it doesn't then some deeper investigation will be needed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPRS sharing = FR 'frozen' after some time
Hi all, I was trying to use my FR (QtMoko v35) to provide Internet connection for my laptop using GPRS connection. Unfortunatelly, after some time (one minute cca) connection to INternet failed (no ping to anywhere from laptop) and FreeRunner was not responging to any input from touchscreen. - although the phone seemed to be frozen, I was able to SSH into it and killall qpe. After such qpe restart, I was able to connect to GPRS again and everything worked for minute or so when I had to killall qpe again. Not sure but it looked like the more traffic there was, the sooner it got frozen. Any ideas what is wrong or where to start with troubleshooting? BTW... connection between laptop and FR was done via USB cable or ad-hoc WiFi connection with no influence on above described. Thanks, Hrabosh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to force current mode?
It does not, I was just assuming because 1000 is not in the list of parameters for om usb charger-limit command. But if I try to set that by om usb charger-limit 1000 it does not fail and executing 'om usb charger-limimt' gives back '1000' so it seems to be OK. I may doublecheck with car-charger connected to power supply with current measurement. Thanks, Hrabosh Timo Juhani Lindfors píše v Po 30. 05. 2011 v 23:36 +0300: Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz writes: om usb seems to work. The only disadvantage is that I!m not able to set charging current to 1A. How does that fail? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to force current mode?
Oh, sorry. QtMoko v35, kernel 2.6.34-qtmoko om usb seems to work. The only disadvantage is that I!m not able to set charging current to 1A. Thanks for your help, Hrabosh Timo Juhani Lindfors píše v Ne 29. 05. 2011 v 23:48 +0300: Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz writes: does anyone know how to force charge mode on Freerunner? I've found some information on how to force fast charging mode, but these HOWTOs are usually refering to files that do not exist on my FreeRunner. You didn't specify what distro or linux version you use but if you can install omhacks you can try om usb charger-limit 500 It automatically detects the right /sys paths so that you don't need to worry about them. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to force current mode?
Hello all, does anyone know how to force charge mode on Freerunner? I've found some information on how to force fast charging mode, but these HOWTOs are usually refering to files that do not exist on my FreeRunner. TThanks, Hrabosh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: AtMoko v35 incoming SMS tone missing?
Well, seems that we have a problem. There was a guy some time ago reporting having simmilar issue. He said that his FreeRunner is even not able to receive SMS until he restarts the phone. I was having simmilar issues also, but bonding pins on SIM connector helped. It was like one month ago. Earlier this week my phone started not report incoming messages by sound and now I have to restart it to get the messages. Do these two probles have something in common? Is there any recomemnded way how to troubleshoot it? Thanks, Hrabosh Philip Rhoades píše v Po 16. 05. 2011 v 18:39 +1000: People, I don't get a tone when an SMS arrives - I can't find anything on the phone or googling that mentions this - is this a known issue? Am I missing something? Thanks, Phil. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko Bluetooth crash
Well, I can see some improvement in BT since v34. On v34 I had to connect my handsfree several times since it actually got connected. v35 gets connected for the first time everytime (...so far). ... by handsfree I mean LG LCF800 car radio. Hrabosh Radek Polak píše v Út 12. 04. 2011 v 08:55 +0200: On Monday 11 April 2011 19:56:50 Root Anonymous wrote: I have now a pb with QtMoko v 35 and Plantronics Voyager 855 QtMoko discover my headset but when i click on the headset... nothing i can't select the password , i can't change menu .. i press the button and reboot the phone Bluetooth crash but i don't know why Can you help me ? Was it working in some older qtmoko versions? E.g. you can try v26 which uses bluez3 bluetooth stack. You can download it from here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/OldFiles/ Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit problem?
Radek Polak píše v Po 11. 04. 2011 v 13:28 +0200: On Sunday 10 April 2011 19:36:00 Hrabosh wrote: Then I installed Xglamo and Navit seems to run, but it is bigger than the screen (I can!t see part of the Navit keyboard, etc.) and I don!t have any Navit icon in QX. Please check QX-Menu-Favourites and enable navit from there - it should work if navit installs /usr/share/applications/navit.deskop Yes, it works! The screen could be fixed if you enable window manager in application settings. Current QX window manager is quite simple, you might need to use matchbox for more complex things. Yes, it works too! I've checked: Prevent suspending Use window manager Enable GPS module Fullscreen And Navit now seems to run properly. I just need to play with navit.xml to set correct maps, etc. Thank you !! Hrabosh Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v35
Radek Polak píše v Po 11. 04. 2011 v 10:13 +0200: On Saturday 09 April 2011 18:27:51 Jens Seidel wrote: My observations: * SMS are recieved after reboot only (wasn't this fixed long time ago?) I have fixed this bug long time ago. But maybe there is another one with same symptoms. Check your SIM card connector. I had simmilar problems receiving SMS on v34. When I installed v35 I was even not able to receive calls (The person you are calling is not avail) ! Checking SIM connector and cleaning/bending the pins helped ! * Imported SMS from the SIM card are put into Inbox, even SMS I sent (expected them in Sent). I also cannot move them manually. These problems can be hopefully fixed when we can use FSO. It would be nice if someone could fix this also in qtopiacomm. * As usual it is not possible to write SMS with the integrated keyboard as it misses many characters (non-English locale). I prepared months ago an ugly patch for this but could never test it as I always fail to compile QtMoko (configure requires days, some stuff (such as Qt) is build without need, ...). Maybe it's now easier using the Debian packages but I really doubt that I will try it again, maybe with the new GTA04. I am quite sure some people had luck and compiled it. I think best way is according to this: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/README I can cross compile or even compile natively. My last QtMoko installation died some days after the installation (v31 or v32) with an ubifs related error. Is there anything known about this or should I expect it again? We had problems with ubifs too. Gennady talked to ubifs devs and they would like to see the kernel message and nandump so they could try too look into it. It seems that ubifs is not as stable as jffs2 which was 100% perfect. Only problem is that jffs2 cant do mmap and apt-get does not work without mmap. Jffs2 will never do mmap (according to the main devel it's a lot of complex work because of compression) so we have these options now: * live with bugged ubifs * patch apt-get so that it works without mmap * use the old trick with /var/cache/apt on tmpfs, but this has problems with limited memory and bigger upates/upgrades might not work * use some other flash filesystem - yaffs seems but does not support compression, i havent looked at logfs yet So any suggestions? Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit problem?
If you are connected via SSH, you need to set DISPLAY variable first. Something like: root@neo:~# DISPLAY=:0.0 navit may work... Hrabosh Carsten Gerlach píše v Ne 10. 04. 2011 v 11:10 +0200: Hello, I have the same problems as Sven, so sorry for hijacking this thread. Am Samstag 09 April 2011 schrieb Radek Polak: Sven Hartrumpf wrote: When I started QX from the GUI I had to install an X server. Which one is recommended? (Xorg or Xglamo?) I would go for Xglamo - it's very small (~1MB) and well tested. I have tested it on fresh v35 install and i worked just fine. Wich packages do I have to install for Xglamo? A apt-cache search glamo gives only the result xserver-xorg-video-glamo - X.Org X server -- SMedia Glamo display driver I have installed this package, but the X server is not starting. I tried both, but with no success (I saw Raptor install packages, but no error message; it could be that the root fs is full now). So, I tried apt-get install xserver-xorg which worked, but starting xterm (or navit) from QX leads to: Unable to connect to X server If you try runningX from command line does it work? Maybe uninstall the xserver-xorg (or remove /usr/bin/X) and QX should use Xglamo automatically. A start of X gives the error Failed to load module fbdev So I installed the package xserver-xorg-video-fbdev Now the error was: (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) (EE) GLX: could not load software renderer After the installing libxcb-glx0 libgl1-mesa-swx11 libgl1-mesa-dri I get no error messages, only this output root@neo:~# X X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.31-rc9 armv5tel Debian Current Operating System: Linux neo 2.6.34-qtmoko #1 Tue Mar 29 19:36:17 UTC 2011 armv4tl Kernel command line: loglevel=4 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init ro mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973- nand:0x0004(qi),0x0004(depr-ub- env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(depr),0x0004(identity- ext2),0x0f6a(rootfs) g_ether.dev_addr=00:1F:11:01:55:3F g_ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:55:40 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=1 console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootwait Build Date: 19 February 2011 03:00:40PM xorg-server 2:1.7.7-13 (Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org) Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sun Apr 10 11:03:15 2011 (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d Primary device is not PCI SELinux: Disabled on system, not enabling in X server The screen becomes black and after clicking on the screen the graphic is redrawn. But a start of navit gives the old message root@neo:~# navit navit:main_init:Warning: LC_ALL is set, this might lead to problems (e.g. strange positions from GPS) map_rect_new_textfile unable to open textfile /root/.navit/bookmark.txt (unknown:1081): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Greetings, Carsten ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit problem?
Sven Hartrumpf píše v So 09. 04. 2011 v 12:11 +0200: Hi. Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:26:31 +0200, pini wrote: I am trying Navit for the first time and followed these instructions: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtMoko#Navit_Installation Works fine, but after the suggested reboot, I just see Enter PIN the press Unlock (no numbers field as usual). The screen and the buttons do not react in any way. I had to flash again :-( IIUC qtmoko is based on Debian. Why not install Because I trusted the Wiki page :-) Could someone knowledgable update the Navit section, please? (OK, _if_ I get Navit working (see below), I could do this myself.) Navit from the appropriate Debian repository? OK. I tried this now. The following works without adjusting repositories: apt-get install navit I did the same. Also gpsd should be installed. Then I installed Xglamo and Navit seems to run, but it is bigger than the screen (I can!t see part of the Navit keyboard, etc.) and I don!t have any Navit icon in QX. When I started QX from the GUI I had to install an X server. Which one is recommended? (Xorg or Xglamo?) I tried both, but with no success (I saw Raptor install packages, but no error message; it could be that the root fs is full now). So, I tried apt-get install xserver-xorg which worked, but starting xterm (or navit) from QX leads to: Unable to connect to X server Ciao Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v34 BlueTooth regressions
another regression always in bt is when you enable an headset/handsfree and gta goes to suspend mode loosing the connection, on incoming calls the bt connection is not re-established on wake and you have to answer from the phone. Are you sure this was working before? I have filled bug anyways. I'm pretty shure it was not working before ... I'm still using v33 and FreeRunner is not re-establishing bluetooth connection afer waking up from suspend. Hrabosh [1] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/debian/linux-2.6-qtmoko_v34-1.dsc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v33
Great job! FYI: I've just installed Qt Creator and set up git and stuff so be ready for stupid questions :-) I'm going to write simple app to monitor battery (set charging current, check battery state etc.). Hrabosh Radek Polak píše v Pá 04. 03. 2011 v 07:37 +0100: Hi, i have uploaded new qtmoko v33 images to sourceforge now [1]. They are still called experimental, because a few things are still not perfect. For more information about qtmoko please see [2][3]. Here is list of changes since v32: * new theme faenqo (cyberspirit) * qtmoko and it's applications are packaged as debian packages * compiled natively on ARM with debian toolchain * new web with applications and themes [4] * applications are now installed from web browser * new icon for installing qtmoko apps in Applications * you can easily install new themes in appearence settings * fixed usb mass storage script (thanks to Alfa21) * omhacks are installed as debian package from sid * qmplayer installs mencoder in debian * mencoder uses ac3 codec for audio * orange led brightness should be fixed (only in sources) * moved all apps from qtmoko-apps git to qtmoko git * updated docs for building and compiling The list is quite short on how much of work it was. Most of the effort was to package everything with debian package system. This should be done now except for kernel which is on the list for next release. For installing qtmoko with apt there is new line now in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/debian/ / Applications and themes are right now not in that repo. They can be installed from web browser from url below [4]. Applications are put in categories, they have tags and screenshots for easy searching and navigation. Please let me know if you have ideas or patches for improving this. The application web is generated from .xml files with xsltproc and bash scripts so it should be quite easy to change look or improve it. Btw .deb packages for most of the apps are still building right now so please be patient - i will upload them as soon as the build is finished. Applications in this version can be still installed with old qtopia package system, but i am going to disable this for next release if new packaging will be ok for you. My plan for next version is to fix regression if you find any, package properly also kernel and release it as stable. Plans for future is FSO framework in qtmoko. Don't forget to try new faenqo theme or use older themes (asthromod) which were only in git until now. They are really nice. Thanks for supporting qtmoko Regards Radek [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/Experimental/ [2] http://qtmoko.org/ [3] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ [4] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/ [5] https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/tree/master/web/qtmoko-apps ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] picture support
Do you have libjpeg62 installed? If not, try to apt-get it. Zb. Thomas Franck píše v Po 21. 02. 2011 v 21:46 +0100: Hi.. Any idea why none of the pictures (jpg / png) that I have on MMC can be displayed? the Mediaviewer finds them but can't show.. Screenshots I've taken are saved on MMC as well and saved as png.. _they_ can be displayed.. so I thought maybe jpg support is broken.. I changed my images to png.. no joy either.. needless to say, the same images can be shown on my laptop (and used to be displayed by SHRs Neon).. I checked file access properties.. they're same as the screenshots.. Cheers, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Problem with eMail notify
HAve a look at: /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/qpe.conf there is a section called Messages with counters of missed SMSs, MMS...setting E-mail counter to 0 should help. Zb. Thomas Franck píše v Ne 20. 02. 2011 v 11:05 +0100: Hello everyone! Recently I installed QtMoko v31 and I'm amazed.. I set up all kinds of connections (still have a problem sending/receiving mms - but I'm not too concerned about that).. Anyway, to the point now: I set up an IMAP account and it started downloading headers then it was so slow, and I think it would have killed the mail app (10k+ mails) so I cancelled.. and then I had a notify for 34 mails.. I didn't want to use the IMAP there anymore so I removed the email account.. the message app doesn't show any mails (of course).. but the main screen still thinks there are 34 new mails.. I can click on it, but nothing happens.. it just keeps displaying the envelope on home screen and top bar.. How do I get rid off those? I already quit QtExtended and deleted the sqlite files I found in the profile.. it then refound my SMS on SIM so I ended up with 40 new messages! I restored the sqlite backups and the SMS part was okay again.. but still 34 messages (mail) and no mail account configured.. reboot doesn't change anything.. Any pointers welcome.. ;) Cheers.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: faenqo
cyberesp...@cyberesprit.fr píše v Po 14. 02. 2011 v 16:43 +0100: It's not FaenGO but FaenQO.. ^^ Oh, I'm sorry. Zb. Regards! On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:55:32 +0100, Hrabosh wrote: I saw packages like asthromod theme, faengo theme and finximod theme in my package manager, but installation always failed. Package was downloaded, then please wait, then Install Error: Fanego-theme: Invalid package, contact packge supplier Zb. Radek Polak píše v St 09. 02. 2011 v 14:58 +0100: On Tuesday 08 February 2011 10:58:11 cyberesp...@cyberesprit.fr wrote: Sorry.. mmh .. This package is better? (The scripts are empty, it's normal, they are useless for now) Yes, this helped, thanks! I have modified the directory structure to match existing themes so that it can be build both with qtmoko qbuild system and with dpkg-buildpackages. It's commited here: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/tree/master/etc/themes/faenqo Now i have also script which builds all debian packages after qtmoko is built: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/scripts/make-debian-packages.sh Could you please check if i havent forgotten something? And one more question - what is difference between faenqo and faenqo_en? Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- CYBERESPRIT, libriste acharné. -- J'utilise un système GNU Linux, je suis libre et j'y participe ! Pourquoi un système GNU Linux est mieux ? Qu'est-ce que le logiciel libre ? Une liste de logiciels libres et une autre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: faenqo
I saw packages like asthromod theme, faengo theme and finximod theme in my package manager, but installation always failed. Package was downloaded, then please wait, then Install Error: Fanego-theme: Invalid package, contact packge supplier Zb. Radek Polak píše v St 09. 02. 2011 v 14:58 +0100: On Tuesday 08 February 2011 10:58:11 cyberesp...@cyberesprit.fr wrote: Sorry.. mmh .. This package is better? (The scripts are empty, it's normal, they are useless for now) Yes, this helped, thanks! I have modified the directory structure to match existing themes so that it can be build both with qtmoko qbuild system and with dpkg-buildpackages. It's commited here: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/tree/master/etc/themes/faenqo Now i have also script which builds all debian packages after qtmoko is built: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/scripts/make-debian-packages.sh Could you please check if i havent forgotten something? And one more question - what is difference between faenqo and faenqo_en? Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Audio path gain
giacomo 'giotti' mariani píše v Út 08. 02. 2011 v 10:40 +0100: Yes, I really meant bass fix. I have replaced each 1uF cap with 2x 47uF caps in parallel. They are isolated by heat-shrinking tube and everything even fit under the metal cover. It really helped a lot, no problem using my FR as portable player now. I have taken some pictures ... anyone interested? I may put them online if so. Of course I'm interested! Here you go: http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/Bass_fix/bf.html Zb. Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS and QtMoko (v32): can't
Ugo Raffaele Piemontese píše v Čt 10. 02. 2011 v 11:50 +0100: Il 10/02/2011 09:24, Radek Polak ha scritto: On Wednesday 09 February 2011 18:28:48 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: This is http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2264 which has been worked around 4 months ago. Nobody has complained that the fix wouldn't work :-) This fix is in qtmoko for long time. I tried it and i looked ok. But this weekend i was using FR for sharing internet with PC and the GPRS always hanged up somehow - it was ok for some web pages but i was unable to transfer anything bigger. I was trying ~2MB file transfer over sftp and after many attempts i had to give up. I also tried to limit sfpt upload to 1kb/s but that didnt help either - so did it over wifi ;-) Regards Radek So Radek, you are able to connect to the internet via gprs somehow (even if it hangs later)? I can connect via GPRS (T-mobile CZ) also. But connection is not very stable - I'm not able to stay OnLine longer than cca 1 minute. Zb. Ugo Raffaele ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 222, Issue 1
giacomo 'giotti' mariani píše v Po 07. 02. 2011 v 11:49 +0100: On 02/07/2011 10:32, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote: Speaking about widgets, ideas, and i think it may be good idea to replace battery icon with number with mA*h, add up current_now, replace GSM signal strength with LAC and dB indicators, add memory and cpu load indicators. I think none of qtmoko users will be scared of 'dB' or 'mA', but this is much more informative that 'three bars signal strength' or 'my battery is red', time of segment displays are far away but segments are still popular somehow. Gennady. I'd like it very much too! Same here! Zb. Giacomo __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Audio path gain, was: Re: Bluetooth module
Yes, I really meant bass fix. I have replaced each 1uF cap with 2x 47uF caps in parallel. They are isolated by heat-shrinking tube and everything even fit under the metal cover. It really helped a lot, no problem using my FR as portable player now. I have taken some pictures ... anyone interested? I may put them online if so. BTW... although my phone seems not to be affected by GSM buzz problems, I did buzz fix also just for shure. Zb. Martix píše v Po 07. 02. 2011 v 16:31 +0100: Did you really meant bass fix? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix Or buzz fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_Fix ? 2011/2/6 Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz: I was doing bass-fix to my Freerunner today so I did the the same measurement with generator again. I run Voice notes and set the generator so that the amplitude was simmilar to the amplitude of voice, captured by the microphone. LAter on I was listening to the files recorded when setting the generator and the 1kHz beep was clean and the volume was OK. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v32 (experimental)
Radek Polak píše v Po 07. 02. 2011 v 06:58 +0100: On Monday 07 February 2011 00:54:37 Hrabosh wrote: I was trying to run NAvit and QX asked me whether to install Xorg server or Xglamo. I did choose Xorg server ... ... when R(apt)or finished installation I was trying to run Navit but Xorg server didn't load ... Xorg. log is attached. It would be interesting to check if the installation wrote correct /etx/X11/xorg.conf Attached. Seems good to me. It would be also interesting to shutdown qtmoko and run X server from ssh console: /etc/init.d/qpe.sh stop Xorg The very same behaviour. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Section Module Loadglx Loaddri2 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier LCD Panel EndSection Section Device Identifier Glamo Graphics Chip Driver glamo EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Glamo Graphics Chip Monitor LCD Panel EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Power Button Driver evdev Option Device/dev/input/event0 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier AUX Button Driver evdev Option Device/dev/input/event2 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Touchscreen Driver evdev Option Device/dev/input/event1 EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Power Button InputDevice AUX Button InputDevice Touchscreen EndSection ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 222, Issue 1
giacomo 'giotti' mariani píše v Po 07. 02. 2011 v 11:49 +0100: On 02/07/2011 10:32, community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote: Speaking about widgets, ideas, and i think it may be good idea to replace battery icon with number with mA*h, add up current_now, replace GSM signal strength with LAC and dB indicators, add memory and cpu load indicators. I think none of qtmoko users will be scared of 'dB' or 'mA', but this is much more informative that 'three bars signal strength' or 'my battery is red', time of segment displays are far away but segments are still popular somehow. Theme with nixie tube indicators would be nice :-) Gennady. I'd like it very much too! Giacomo __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: It's not a camera
Nice work! Is there any How-to-write-drivers-for-I2C-devices-connected-to-FR guide? Zb. Rui Miguel Silva Seabra píše v Pá 04. 02. 2011 v 15:01 +: Em 04-02-2011 14:19, Al Johnson escreveu: On Friday 04 February 2011, Benjamin Deering wrote: http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/index.php?level=albumid=26 There is a similar part called a mlx90615 which is much smaller, but also has a smaller temperature range. It may not work with the current kernel module, but could probably work with small changes. The temperature range is still -40C to 115C so probably good enough for many uses. I'd say for most uses! Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Audio path gain, was: Re: Bluetooth module
Al Johnson píše v Pá 04. 02. 2011 v 13:46 +: How did you pick 0.5mV as a suitable input amplitude? Measurement of peaks when talking? It was completely wrong! I did some internet search and found that micropohone like that in FR usually produce signal with amplitude in tens of mV. I was wondering if the singal was only 0.5mV it wouldn't probalby get distorted so easily - so I went to check my generator and saw that the attenuator was set incorrectly and so the signal was probably way higher than 0.5mV. I was doing bass-fix to my Freerunner today so I did the the same measurement with generator again. I run Voice notes and set the generator so that the amplitude was simmilar to the amplitude of voice, captured by the microphone. LAter on I was listening to the files recorded when setting the generator and the 1kHz beep was clean and the volume was OK. I rewrite the text and put there all pictures from the scope I made. http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/ALSA/sound_setting.html Seems that the sidetone may be set to 2 instead of 1, but mic should stay 0. Thanks for your question ! Zb. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v32 (experimental)
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Audio path gain, was: Re: Bluetooth module
Al Johnson píše v Pá 21. 01. 2011 v 10:34 +: On Friday 21 January 2011, Hrabosh wrote: Hi guys, yesterday I opened my freerunner to check whether mine FR is affected by R3004 issue [1]. It was, I put a piece of wire there instead of those two caps and volume got better! I have also connected sine wave from generator to the WD8753 mic input and cheched it on the WD8753's output with the oscilloscope. It seemes that the audio codec chip gets into trouble (distortion, oscillations) if the overall audio path has higher gain than 1. I'm going to write more about this soon, with the scope pictures included (taken by my camera, I don't have DSO at home :-/ ) That would be interesting to see, but your summary seems wrong or perhaps oversimplified. Distortion is inevitable if you overload an amp, and oscillation isn't unusual immediately after overload. It isn't a function of the overall path gain though. The wolfson has a chain of amps and volume controls, and it only needs overload at one of them to introduce distortion. Stick the gain too high on the first stage (mic input) and the distortion won't go away no matter how far you turn down the gain on later stages. This has been a long standing problem with the default volume settings. Yes, it is oversimplified. It is obvious that you can't fix distortion by lowering the gain of next-in-chain amplifier. You are just controlling the volume of already distorted signal. I put that picture from my scope with a short description to my web page, here: http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/ALSA/sound_setting.html I was very surprised how LOW I had to set the audio controls to get rid of distortion: Mic2: 0 Sidetone: 1 Strange ... But ... when I was dismounting the phone, I dammaged the bluetooth module. The module itself may be OK, but the flex cable is torn off. Don't you have any idea where can I buy some spare? I've not seen anyone list them as a spare for sale, but any of the distributors might have them available. Nicholas from Golden Delicious answered my desperate E-mail :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth module
Petr Vanek píše v So 22. 01. 2011 v 05:51 +0800: On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:32:40 +0100 Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz (H) wrote: But ... when I was dismounting the phone, I dammaged the bluetooth module. The module itself may be OK, but the flex cable is torn off. ahoy, zdar! the flexible PCB for BT does seem to be able to crack very easily, mine broke about a year ago. One day, i would love to sit down and fix it but as it is quite tedious job under a microscope i have been procrastinating this as much as i could. Besides, it helped me to stop worrying about the FSO BT support and i also stopped spamming people on public transport with tux images via BT ;)) I got dead motherboard with BT module on it from Golden Delicious. So I replaced it earlier this week and everything seems to work. I was trying to pair my FR with my car radio today while bored in traffic jam - so I run the search procedure and found 4 mobile phones and 3 hands-free sets :-) BTW.. I've just received a bunch of E-mails from last 2 weeks or so. Strange ... Zb. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions
I would appreciate two little improvements/changes. - 3.5mm 3 way jack instead of 2.5mm 4 way. - LEDs driven by external ICs, so they would be able to lit eve if FR is in suspend. Im planning (- which means that it may not even happen :-) ) to drive LEDs by I2C drivers, or to add some latch between the LED and FR's processor. Zb. Glenn píše v So 22. 01. 2011 v 23:22 +0100: Hi All! Here are some hardware suggestion for discussion: 1) Possibility of IR RC5 receiver/transmitter 2) Possibility of IRDA transceiver 3) Possibility of a video-link? Use touch-screen as a color matrix (2D) barcode video transmitter - and the camera as a receiver (half or full duplex). Let the link automatically adapt to to half duplex, if you need to turn your smartphone to establish the other half duplex connection. The link should also adapt frame rate and if the camera and/or screen is dirty - or the link is through a dirty window. I have no idea how fast the link can be as a function of distance. The link should automatically adapt if the video color matrix (2D) barcode is mirrored in any way - or played backwards. 4) Antenna diversity of (preferably pattern, space - or polarisation diversity): * GSM/UMTS? (receive diversity incl. external antenna). * 802.11(a)bg(n) (diversity) (W2CBW009Di: For Dual Antenna application) Almost every laptop has diversity. * FM-receiver (receive diversity requires 2*Si4721 - uC selects the best signal (listen to one - let the other turn on and scan when the listen-signal has to low S/N ratio) - or you can listen to one and record another). * GPS? (receive diversity including external antenna). For FM-diversity you can use a 180 degree hybrid (two loaded LC-circuits?) to separate common-mode and differential-mode - for diversity - if three space divided poles are available. I know that there is a capacitance between ear-wires and their ground, so I do not know, how well it will work. Note that some impedance matching might be needed. For VHF/FM the head-phone cable might be used. The diversity might be implemented isolating ground by a adequate inductor (100MHz parallel LC-circuit) - and two high-pass filter from left and right earphone non-ground wires - and the GTA04 itself as a kind of ground/third-wire. - Links: Matrix (2D) barcodes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcode#Matrix_.282D.29_barcodes PCB-antennas (small): http://www.numatechnologies.com/pdf/foilantennas.pdf An antenna that can be sized for 100MHz reception around the perimeter of the PCB? Use two loops so ground is not needed: http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/loop/k9ay/k9ay_orig.pdf http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/loop/k9ay/index.html Also for 100MHz: (T2FD -- The Forgotten Antenna: http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/wire/t2fd.html ) 1/3/2003 Antenna Diversity Strengthens Wireless LANs: http://www.eetimes.com/design/communications-design/4008941/Antenna-Diversity-Strengthens-Wireless-LANs Quote: ...While detailed implementations of dynamic diversity can vary widely, it's possible to summarize the simulated performance of a conceptually simple scheme relative to that of a single-antenna mode, as well as full diversity and selection diversity (Figure 6)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_diversity Quote: ... Spatial diversity employs multiple antennas, usually with the same characteristics, that are physically separated from one another. Depending upon the expected incidence of the incoming signal, sometimes a space on the order of a wavelength is sufficient. ... Pattern diversity consists of two or more co-located antennas with different radiation patterns. ... A polarisation difference of 90° will result in an attenuation factor of up to 34dB in signal strength. By pairing two complementary polarizations, this scheme can immunize a system from polarization mismatches that would otherwise cause signal fade. Additionally, such diversity has proven valuable at radio and mobile communication base stations since it is less susceptible to the near random orientations of transmitting antennas. ... http://web.archive.org/web/20060427002449/www.tvhandbook.com/support/pdf_files/Chapter17_7.pdf Quote: ... Diversity is only of value for the relatively rapid fading caused by multipath. This kind of fading is encountered extensively at HF and for tropospheric and iono- spheric scatter propagation at higher frequencies. Similarly, mobile vehicles passing through a static multipath field at VHF and UHF encounter such fading as a result of their motion. ... 180 degree hybrid: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Combine2.svg Sum uses sum of ear-wires - and third-wire. Difference to some extent uses only ear-wires. Pattern Diversity: 90 degree hybrid:
Re: GTA04 hardware suggestion and discussions
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller píše v Čt 03. 02. 2011 v 22:18 +0100: Am 03.02.2011 um 23:09 schrieb Hrabosh: I would appreciate two little improvements/changes. - 3.5mm 3 way jack instead of 2.5mm 4 way. Unfortunately there is no space in the GTA case. You have to get rid of the battery connector or the speaker :( I was trying to replace that 2.5mm by 3.5mm and found this one: http://cz.farnell.com/multicomp/mj4435-r/socket-3-5mm-jack-smd-3pole/dp/1638670?Ntt=1638670 which seems to fit there (I was playing with the dead motherboard you've sent me). But it has no switching contact for jack presence detection. - LEDs driven by external ICs, so they would be able to lit eve if FR is in suspend. Im planning (- which means that it may not even happen :-) ) to drive LEDs by I2C drivers, or to add some latch between the LED and FR's processor. Yes: http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tca6507.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bluetooth module
Hi guys, yesterday I opened my freerunner to check whether mine FR is affected by R3004 issue [1]. It was, I put a piece of wire there instead of those two caps and volume got better! I have also connected sine wave from generator to the WD8753 mic input and cheched it on the WD8753's output with the oscilloscope. It seemes that the audio codec chip gets into trouble (distortion, oscillations) if the overall audio path has higher gain than 1. I'm going to write more about this soon, with the scope pictures included (taken by my camera, I don't have DSO at home :-/ ) But ... when I was dismounting the phone, I dammaged the bluetooth module. The module itself may be OK, but the flex cable is torn off. Don't you have any idea where can I buy some spare? Thanks, Zbynek [1]http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/052914.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth module
Sorry: [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/052914.html Hrabosh píše v Pá 21. 01. 2011 v 07:32 +0100: Hi guys, yesterday I opened my freerunner to check whether mine FR is affected by R3004 issue [1]. It was, I put a piece of wire there instead of those two caps and volume got better! I have also connected sine wave from generator to the WD8753 mic input and cheched it on the WD8753's output with the oscilloscope. It seemes that the audio codec chip gets into trouble (distortion, oscillations) if the overall audio path has higher gain than 1. I'm going to write more about this soon, with the scope pictures included (taken by my camera, I don't have DSO at home :-/ ) But ... when I was dismounting the phone, I dammaged the bluetooth module. The module itself may be OK, but the flex cable is torn off. Don't you have any idea where can I buy some spare? Thanks, Zbynek [1]http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/052914.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Red LED on when new SMS or missed call script
Hi All, I really liked when my old Simenes M65 turned on red LEDs on its side when SMS was received or I had a missed call. I was missing this on FR so I wrote a simple script to do that I added: CheckForMissed to my /etc/rc.local to run it automatically when phone starts. The only think I'm not happy about is that when the phone gets suspended, all LEDs are switched off no matter what is in the control files (sys/device/platform...). Hope someone would find it usefull... Zbynek CheckForMissed Description: application/shellscript ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Good evening to everyone
Radek Polak píše v Út 11. 01. 2011 v 22:20 +0100:
Hrabosh wrote:
I set the controls as you wrote and made a call to test it.
I found out that if my phone is ringing and I press Answer button, the
call is not answered, but dropped! After cca 1s, person who is calling
gets busy tone and I get missed call
I'm not able to receive calls !
Its probably not related to setting alsa controls. Is it always reproducible?
I had problems that the answer button after click becomes hang call
button
and you can very easily click twice. It's my plan to fix this somehow in
future.
You were right! Touching Answer key just once (even if it seems that
the phone didn't notice that touch) helped !
Thank you very much!
Zb.
Oterwise you can enable logging for interesting categories (audio states,
modem AT) and check if there is something interesting (in /var/log/messages).
Regards
Radek
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Re: Good evening to everyone
I set the controls as you wrote and made a call to test it.
I found out that if my phone is ringing and I press Answer button, the
call is not answered, but dropped! After cca 1s, person who is calling
gets busy tone and I get missed call
I'm not able to receive calls !
Zbynek.
Linus Gasser píše v St 05. 01. 2011 v 20:59 +0100:
Le 31.12.10 01:05, Hrabosh a écrit :
9/ People I call with are complaining about bad sound quality. Did it
happen to any of you?
For me it was enough to use the following settings in NeoControl:
Playback: 125
Sidetone: 3
Mic2: 1
I nearly threw away my phone before finding out these settings... But as
I read on the list here, it's extremely different from one phone to
another. I liked the following post of Al Johnson (which I think you'll
understand and makes you chuckle, too, reading your other posts as a
HW-engineer having frightened SW-engineers in the back...):
[Snipped all but the 3 important channels, and reordered for the route the
signal takes]
control.48 {
value 3
}
+30dB
control.12 {
value 7
}
+6dB
control.5 {
value 110
}
-11dB
Total: +25dB
This is a ridiculous way to get that total gain, unless you want
distortion. That may be a fine goal on a guitar amp, but not on a phone.
For some reason it seems to be the recommendation , but don't ask me
why. To get the same signal level with much less chance of distortion
try these:
Control 48
value 2 (+24dB)
Control 12
value 5 (0dB)
Control 5
value 122 (+1dB)
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Re: QtMoko: Dangerous alarm issue
W. B. Kranendonk píše v Po 10. 01. 2011 v 06:23 -0800: --- On Mon, 1/10/11, Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz wrote: do not rely on QtMoko's alarm to wake you up :-) It was not -by coincidence- the first or second of January? It seems to be a common problem with design(ers) phones ;-) No :-) I can!t imagine any phone able to wake me up on 1st January. Zbynek Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hello, do not rely on QtMoko's alarm to wake you up :-) I set the alarm and switched the phone off. When the time came the phone switched itself on, the alarm bell was shown on the screen and the phone was vibrating but with NO SOUND !! If I did the same, but suspend (by short power button press) the phone instead of switching off, everything was OK. Any idea how to fix this? BTW.. how do I choose the file to be played as alarm ringing? Thanks, Zb. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bugs QtMoko v31
BTW ... mine Eyepiece did ask for some aditional libraries on the first run and then succesfully apt-got them. Zb. Radek Polak píše v St 05. 01. 2011 v 10:34 +0100: Nashvin Gangaram wrote: Hi Radek Everything's working great in QtMoko v31... except for Eyepiece. I get an error: Error: cannot load plugin when trying to open PDF files. Is libdjvulibre21 required to view PDF files now? Yup it's needed for PDF files. Eyepiece should install it on the first run, but if that somehow does not work, you can install manually with apt-get from command line. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Good evening to everyone
Thanks for reply. Please see my notes below.. Radek Polak píše v So 01. 01. 2011 v 12:14 +0100: Hrabosh wrote: Hello guys, I got my FreeRunner few weeks ago and since that I'm having fun discovering it :-) I am having this fun already for 2 years, Freerunner is certainly best toy i ever had :) 1/ USB Host is not working in v30, v31 (in v26 is). Dmesg says unable to enumerate device. I was trying to connect USB flash drive, BT dongle and USBtoRS232 converter (With PL2??something chip) - all these were working on v26. New 2.6.34 has now 2 sysfs nodes that have to be used together for the desired result. It seems that the sysfs path for second one has slightly changed. If you edit /opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-host.sh it should now read: echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-gpio.0/reg- fixed-voltage.2/gta02-pm-usbhost.0/power_on echo device /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode Are you sure about echo 0 and echo device? Shoudln't echo 1 and echo host be there instead? and /opt/qtmoko/bin/usb-device.sh: echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-gpio.0/reg- fixed-voltage.2/gta02-pm-usbhost.0/power_on echo device /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode OK, thank you ! I did changes according to what you wrote and according to dmesg messages, FR is now able to detect the devices. See messages that showed up after I connected my flash drive: 25583.65] s3c2410: changing usb to host [25618.74] usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using s3c2410-ohci and address 11 [25618.92] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=090c, idProduct=1000 [25618.92] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [25618.92] usb 1-2: Product: Flash Disk [25618.92] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: USB [25618.92] usb 1-2: SerialNumber: FBD1004260016292 ... and that's all. No partitions were detected, etc. If I connected USBtoRS232 converter, FR detected it but device /dev/ttyUSB0 is not generated. I have no idea what's wrong. Module for the converter is present (pl2303) - when I load it manually (by modprobe), device ttyUSB0 appears, but can't be used. Stty complains about inapropriate ioctl for device and echo whatever /dev/ttyUSB0 is not transmitting a byte. I have also fixed this in git now, thanks for letting us know! 3/ Where am I to copy MP3 files to make MediaPlayer see them? I copied them to /media/card/Documents/audio/mpeg You can use /media/card/Documents - all subdirs should be searched by qtmoko document system scanner. Yes, now it works! Although even if I rescan the system, files that are no longer on the uSD card are still listed in Documents. 4/ Does anyone know how to set FreeRunner to play music over bluetooth audio stream? AFAIR it is called A2DP. Radio in my car is able to play such stream so I'd like to use it. A2DP support should work from GUI. I have already described it in v26 announce, anyway here is copy paste: A2DP (bluetooth audio) support works too but with some glitches. You need headset with A2DP support. After pairing press Supported services from bluetooth device context menu. New button Connect audio (A2DP) should then appear. Sometimes it fails to connect. For me it help putting headset in pairing mode, restart phone and then the button works. If you make the bluetooth audio device default it will work in all alsa programs, but expect problems e.g. with GSM calls. If you dont make it default GSM will be ok. However only QMplayer can detect it and use it now. 6/ IS there a way how to enter Czech letters using FR keyboard ? ... at least in Navit? Street names in Navit are using czech letters and I'm not able to enter their names without having such letters on the keyboard. It should be possible and not very difficult to implement it. There is already package for russian keyboard (in Settings-package management). After installing it and switching language to Russian you can select it for input. Sources are here: https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko-apps/tree/master/keyboard-addons/keyboard- russian-abc Please note that it's the finger frinedly keyboard [1] and russian letters will appear after pressing switch. 8/ Can I install ipk packages to QtMoko? You can only use .deb (native debian packages) or .qpk (qtmoko package system). Most of .deb apps are for X11 and you can use them with QX application. I think all possible qpk should be available under Settings- Package management. 9/ People I call with are complaining about bad sound quality. Did it happen to any of you? It depends what bad sound quality means. There is problem with buzz which is hardware problem and must be fixed in hardware. IIRC i have never had this problem but you might not be so lucky. It can be fixed by soldering capacitor - you can find more details on wiki if you search
Re: Good evening to everyone
Thank you. Tommorow at work I'll try to make a call from my desk phone to FR to determine what people mean by where the hell are you calling from?. I hope I can do buzzfix by myself. I work in Honeywell design center as HW desing eng. so I have some experince with soldering :-) and we have very nice tools in our lab. I believe its not gonna be worse that changing 0402 resistor on incredibly expensive Max-t PXI card with group of frightened SW engs. standing behind my back :-) But I'll try to join the conference anyway.. Zb. Martix píše v Ne 02. 01. 2011 v 18:53 +0100: 2010/12/31 Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz: Hello guys, I got my FreeRunner few weeks ago and since that I'm having fun discovering it :-) Hi and welcome to Openmoko community! 9/ People I call with are complaining about bad sound quality. Did it happen to any of you? Do people on other side hear the typical GSM buzz? You may know it from sound speakers while somebody is calling... If so, one guy from our Czech Openmoko community can make buzzfix for you. Feel free to join to our Jabber conference: openm...@muc.openmoko.cz and ask Itchy007. Thanks for your time, Zbynek, Brno, Czech Republic Best regards, Martix, Czech Republic http://www.openmoko.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Thank you ! Please see my comments inside... Alishams Hassam píše v Čt 30. 12. 2010 v 18:04 -0800: On Thursday 30 December 2010 16:05:03 Hrabosh wrote: 1/ USB Host is not working in v30, v31 (in v26 is). Dmesg says unable to enumerate device. I was trying to connect USB flash drive, BT dongle and USBtoRS232 converter (With PL2??something chip) - all these were working on v26. not sure, make sure you set usb to host most in dev tools, if that's not it maybe go to log level 8 and get some more detailed info about what's wrong? You can do this in the kernel parameters in /boot/append or in QI just press the power button after the second flash of the aux button Hrabosh: I pressed the power button (a have v31 on the NAND memory, thus not able to use /boot/append because Qi is not reading UBI FS .. right?) and saw kernel messages scrolling down the screen- simmilar to what I can see when my Linux computer is booting. USB device (ethernet mode) works fine. If i switch the phone to USB host mode (by running the script in dev tools), message in kernel log appears: [131.66] s3c2410: changing USB to host [131.90] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 - last line is repeated cca 10 times. Ethernet mode is then not working (unless I run USB device mode from dev tools), but FR is charging the battery if plugged to the computer/charger. Devices, connected to FR's USB port, are not working and seem not to be powered at all. 3/ Where am I to copy MP3 files to make MediaPlayer see them? I copied them to /media/card/Documents/audio/mpeg and /home/root/Documents/audio/mpeg but still didn't see in MP. QMplayer was able to find them on first scan, but only if there were no further directories in /home/root/Documents/audio/mpeg. Is there a way how to tell these programs where are my MP3s stored? Go to software packages and download the mp3 codec, then execute the file that shows up in applications. Suddenly media player will read mp3s in ~/Documents (qtmokos ~/ which is /home/root not the debian /root) Hrabosh: It works! Thanks! But media player seems not to be able to play music fluently when phone is in use (reading SMS, using Arora... ) - QMplayer is playing fluently no matter what you do with the phone. 4/ Does anyone know how to set FreeRunner to play music over bluetooth audio stream? AFAIR it is called A2DP. Radio in my car is able to play such stream so I'd like to use it. You can add debian unstabled repos and see if there is anything there, I would be very surprised if not... Hrabosh: There was such option in some player I had in SHR distribution. You could choose whether to play using spekares or BT headset. I'll try to google something more ... 5/ I'm going to replace 2.5 audio socket in FR by 3.5 socket - so I could connect my headphones directly to FR. Did anyone try so? Please document if you do this! I've lost the second earphones I got for this (kindly given to me by my friend Brolin) and it's a real pain to find 2.5mm headphones here. Hrabosh: OK, I'll let you know. 7/ Can I use MP3 files as ringtones? Yes, see my re to 3 8/ Can I install ipk packages to QtMoko? Not the ones built for SHR qtmokos got every debian package so something should do what you're looking for. 9/ People I call with are complaining about bad sound quality. Did it happen to any of you? not yet... Thanks for your time, Zbynek, Brno, Czech Republic ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Well done ! As to the keyboard: I really appreciate having arrow keys there (because of command history in Terminal). If you hit the very left key in the second row, another keys (end,home,arrows..) shows up - but the same keys ale already in the default keyboard, so now they are present twice. What about replacing these by F1-F10 keys? BTW ... I§m the only one having difficulties using USB host mode in v31? Zb. Sylvain Paré píše v Pá 31. 12. 2010 v 12:58 +0100: Thanks to every one behind this! Happy new year too! Sylvain 2010/12/30 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz Hi, new stable qtmoko release v31 is now out. You can download images for SD card and NAND flash from sourceforge [1] and sources from github [2]. QtMoko is distribution for Freerunner based on debian rootfs and qtopia phone stack and GUI. For more info please see [3] and [4]. Changes since previous version: - fixed invisible call button in finximod theme (Joif) - translated to French (Gregoire Juge) - updated Danish translation (Ole Carlsen) - better layout in docked keyboard - commented completion strip in docked keyboard - VT not switch to graphics which fixes X hang in VT_WAITACTIVE (Gennady+Me) - fix QX crash after pause/resume - using openssh-server instead of dropbear again This is first stable release based on kernel 2.6.34. I think nearly all regressions to andy-tracking 2.6.29 are fixed so i will tag last commit with 2.6.29 support and will merge 2.6.34 support in master. Docked keyboard (the one suitable for terminal) is now much better. It has same layout as in SHR, which means you will have cursor keys on main screen. The completion strip was IMO quite useless and wasted only space so it's now disabled. As for the VT fix (or hack ;-) it's now possible to use any X server with QX. So you can install full xserver and use it instead of Xglamo which is default. So happy new year! Regards Radek [1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/ [2] https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko [3] http://www.qtmoko.org/ [4] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hello guys, I got my FreeRunner few weeks ago and since that I'm having fun discovering it :-) I had been trying OM, SHR, Debian, Android, QtMoko and decided to stay with Qtmoko. I have v26,v30 and now v31 installed on several uSD cards (v31 is in NAND memory). Although QtMoko seems quite usable for Freerunner, there are still some points where I'd like to ask you for help. But I'm already using FR with QtMoko as my primary phone and its doing well :-) 1/ USB Host is not working in v30, v31 (in v26 is). Dmesg says unable to enumerate device. I was trying to connect USB flash drive, BT dongle and USBtoRS232 converter (With PL2??something chip) - all these were working on v26. 2/ GPRS is working on v30 and v31, great job !! 3/ Where am I to copy MP3 files to make MediaPlayer see them? I copied them to /media/card/Documents/audio/mpeg and /home/root/Documents/audio/mpeg but still didn't see in MP. QMplayer was able to find them on first scan, but only if there were no further directories in /home/root/Documents/audio/mpeg. Is there a way how to tell these programs where are my MP3s stored? 4/ Does anyone know how to set FreeRunner to play music over bluetooth audio stream? AFAIR it is called A2DP. Radio in my car is able to play such stream so I'd like to use it. 5/ I'm going to replace 2.5 audio socket in FR by 3.5 socket - so I could connect my headphones directly to FR. Did anyone try so? 6/ IS there a way how to enter Czech letters using FR keyboard ? ... at least in Navit? Street names in Navit are using czech letters and I'm not able to enter their names without having such letters on the keyboard. 7/ Can I use MP3 files as ringtones? 8/ Can I install ipk packages to QtMoko? 9/ People I call with are complaining about bad sound quality. Did it happen to any of you? Thanks for your time, Zbynek, Brno, Czech Republic ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
