Open GSM firmware - OsmocomBB supports Neo FreeRunner
Hi! There is some GTA02 support in OsmocomBB project. You can flash open source firmware for TI Calypso GSM modem. http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OpenMoko Did anybody tried this firmware on his Neo FreeRunner? What's your experience? Is it usable with SHR or Qt Moko like old proprietary firmware? Calls, SMS, GPRS, SIM load/store (contacts, SMSs) works? How many successfully flashed devices are here? And how many bricks? ;-) I know about OsmocomBB from beginning, but Openmoko smartphones support wasn't priority for them. I'm glad to see some progress on GTA02. Did leaked documentation and proprietary firmware source codes helped OsmocomBB? http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2011-November/065731.html Best Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Re: Open GSM firmware - OsmocomBB supports Neo FreeRunner
Useful informations for these not subscribed to baseband-de...@lists.osmocom.org: Pu*vodní zpráva Pr(edme(t: Re: Open GSM firmware - OsmocomBB supports Neo FreeRunner Datum: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:35:32 +0200 Od: Alexander Huemer alexander.hue...@xx.vu Komu: baseband-de...@lists.osmocom.org Hi Martix, On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:14:21PM +0200, Martix wrote: Hi! There is some GTA02 support in OsmocomBB project. You can flash open source firmware for TI Calypso GSM modem. http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OpenMoko Did anybody tried this firmware on his Neo FreeRunner? What's your experience? Is it usable with SHR or Qt Moko like old proprietary firmware? Calls, SMS, GPRS, SIM load/store (contacts, SMSs) works? How many successfully flashed devices are here? And how many bricks? ;-) AFAIK osmocom-bb works on the OpenMoko phones, but most likely not in the way you expect. There is so far no AT-command interface, which means you cannot use OpenMoko dialing-apps, etc. You have to use the normal osmocom-bb telnet interface to interact with it. [...] Kind regards, -Alexander Huemer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Re: Open GSM firmware - OsmocomBB supports Neo FreeRunner
Useful informations for these not subscribed to baseband-de...@lists.osmocom.org: Pu*vodní zpráva Pr(edme(t: Re: Open GSM firmware - OsmocomBB supports Neo FreeRunner Datum: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:50:54 +0200 Od: Pierre Pronchery khor...@defora.org Komu: baseband-de...@lists.osmocom.org Hi, On 10/07/2012 13:14, Martix wrote: There is some GTA02 support in OsmocomBB project. You can flash open source firmware for TI Calypso GSM modem. http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OpenMoko Did anybody tried this firmware on his Neo FreeRunner? What's your experience? Is it usable with SHR or Qt Moko like old proprietary firmware? Calls, SMS, GPRS, SIM load/store (contacts, SMSs) works? How many successfully flashed devices are here? And how many bricks? ;-) I think there's already been a thread recently about this; please check the archives. I know about OsmocomBB from beginning, but Openmoko smartphones support wasn't priority for them. I'm glad to see some progress on GTA02. It's neither SHR or QtMoko, but I have begun to write some code to integrate OsmocomBB with my own telephony implementation (called DeforaOS Phone) for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is very, very early work and therefore far from being functional yet, but for the record, you can find it here: http://www.defora.org/os/project/browse/3343?file=/src/modems/osmocom.c,vrevision=1.2 Previous versions of the DeforaOS environment are already packaged for the hackable:1 distribution, and released within the dse series. For more information on how to install and test this: http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/DeforaOSSmartphone http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/AvailableVersions/dse2 http://www.defora.org/os/wiki/3438/DeforaOS-Smartphone HTH, -- khorben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stop whininig / be friendly (Re: Harald for president)
I agree, I always got kind responses from Sean when I wrote him. Infrastructure topic is only exception, but you said he is going to write response, better later than never. :-) Dne 20.5.2012 13:22, Harald Welte napsal(a): Chris, On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 11:08:00AM +0200, Christoph Pulster wrote: A big THANKS to Harald for all his effords to keep Openmoko project online ! - what a pity Sean did not care about his baby anymore. Please refrain from further bashing about Sean here on this list. This is neither helpful not fair. I think there are few people who understand the amount of trouble, stress and personal hardship that Sean went thorough in the Openmoko hay days. Sean was the one who broguht all of us together, and who enabled us to try to build something that we had all only been able to dream about before: A truly open/free phone. The fact that it has not been overly successful (commercially, technically, ...) does nothing to the fact that we would have never tried all of that with Sean. There have undoubtedly been many difficult times for all of us involved. People like Werenr, Wolfgang or me had an easy way out: While we had lots of say inside the project and company, we waere freelancers that got paid and who could leave any time. Sean had started the company and he never had a chance to simply walk away. So I would really like to ask you (and others on this list) to stop seeng Sean as the enemy. The large companies out there making billions of $currency every quarter selling locked-down, proprietary phones are the enemy. You cannot blame somebody for trying to change that, failing to do so and then at some point deliberately not reading the old mailing lists as you have to focus on some completely different projects and products by now. After all, he has been paying thousands of dollars of server hosting in the years after Openmoko Inc. had discontinued the phones. Regarding your complaints about distributors not receiving the best treatment that you had liked: We were a very small team trying to do the impossible in many different areas, on an incredibly tight budget. Everyone had to take shortcuts, and everyone was overworked. I'm sorry that this left some discomfort with you, but distributors/partners were not the only thing that had to be taken care of... What you're doing now with your bitching is just creating bitterness on all sides, and honestly, it is not going to help at all. Regards, Harald ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Server upgrades / docs and svn are back
Hi Harald, thanks for your help. I'm glad to see docs and svn are back. I hope, Openmoko Inc. will continue to fund openmoko.org infrastructure rents. It's sad that Sean isn't publicly responding to discussions regarding infrastructure. Did anyone of former Openmoko Inc. associates tried to reach him privately? There is still some uncertainty on infrastructure future. It would be nice to setup regular XML dumps of wiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki#XML_dump I don't know if lindi's wiki dumps could be easily imported into new Mediawiki in case of wiki.openmoko.org outage. Best Regards, Martix Dne 18.5.2012 22:29, Harald Welte napsal(a): Hi again, as the way outdated projects.openmoko.org has been down for something like two years now, I have removed the links in the navigation bar on the top right avoiding to lure people into what is nothing more than a broken link. For security and maintenance reasons, the horde/imp webmail installation on https://mail.openmoko.org/ has been deactivated. I don't intend to bring it back. Just for the sake of completeness, jabber.openmoko.org and buildhost.openmoko.org had been deactivated a long time ago. I'm also removing them from the DNS zone file as part of getting rid of old cruft. The number of VMs has already been reduced to six now, as some services have been merged with other VMs. At some point we will have to change IP addresses of the MX for @openmoko.org and @lists.openmoko.org in order to migrate everything into one subnet. While it shouldn't cause major outage/breakage, it still might. I'll send a proper announcement before doing that. In the end, the following services will remain: * www.openmoko.org / wiki.openmoko.org (http/https) * downloads.openmoko.org (http/ftp/rsync) * 3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org (http/ftp/rsync) * mail.openmoko.org (smtp/imap) * docs.openmoko.org (http/https) * svn.openmoko.org (svn/svnweb) * git.openmoko.org (git/gitweb) * admin-trac.openmoko.org (http/https) * monitor.openmoko.org (https) * lists.openmoko.org (smtp/http) * planet.openmoko.org (http) * people.openmoko.org (http) One of the things I still need to figure out is who currently owns the openmko.org domain at CAcert. A bunch of renewed certificates would probably do some good to help against all those browser warnings about expired certificates. Regards, Harald ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Server upgrades / docs and svn are back
Dne 19.5.2012 13:45, Harald Welte napsal(a): Hi Martix, On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 01:37:10PM +0200, Martix wrote: It's sad that Sean isn't publicly responding to discussions regarding infrastructure. Did anyone of former Openmoko Inc. associates tried to reach him privately? There is still some uncertainty on infrastructure future. I have been in contact with him throughout the last couple of days, and he's sorting out a couple of things before posting the results here. Therefore I'd like you to be patient for a couple of more days. Ok, good to know that Sean is interested in this topic. It would be nice to setup regular XML dumps of wiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki#XML_dump I'll look into that. That was quick, thanks. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko servers
Hi Nikolaus, feel free to ask on details. Don't be confused. We are not Openmobility.org just Openmobility. And we don't own openmobility.org domain, just openmobility.cz and openmobility.eu. Best Regards, Martix Dne 6.5.2012 21:30, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napsal(a): Hi Joerg, Ed, I think you are both completely right. I think this is again an example (and explanation) why Openmoko.org (not .com) IMHO needs a (new) formal organization. And as Ed suggests. some people are simply assuming that it exists and jOERG is some executing member of it. If we had such an organization, there would really be someone to blame for. Or to demand something from the organization, if you are member. So those people who have been elected (and accepted), accept that the community can demand that e.g. servers are kept in operation. And, if they do well, it is also very clear whom to compliment. I.e. it is not at all your fault or even responsibility. Nobody (except you) has elected you for that tasks. So you are completely right in rejecting such requests. I think, this community has to decide which sort of organization they would like to operate the infrastructure and decide who gets the hat to keep it running. The proposal/offer from Martix (Openmobility.org) is definitively to be considered (we probably need more details). So jOERG, if you come to LinuxTag as we have discussed, let's have a beer and discuss how to form some organization for Openmoko.org (and fix your GTA04). BR, Nikolaus (I was out of town for some days and have to work through the e-mail backlog) Am 06.05.2012 um 19:37 schrieb Ed Kapitein: Whooo Joerg, take a beer! I'm sure people are unaware of this, so it is good to explain it to them. Don't take it personally, your help is really appreciated. Kind regards, Ed On 05/06/2012 06:45 PM, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: openmoko inc. isn't handling anything openmoko.org related, since ages. A detail constantly ignored in all this debate. Please note that all openmoko.org (incl me / my mail addr) is no longer directly associated to openmoko.com and openmoko inc. I'm actually thoroughly fed up with getting bitched at like I was a first level helpdesk drone or CR-representative. I'm not going to answer any more to guys *demanding* things from me and accusing me of whatever weird mindset when I don't feel like jumping when they instruct me jump. I've been in to help, in my spare time, on a voluntary basis. I'll reduce this engagement drastically, since it earns me bitching and reproaches, instead of at least appreciation or the satisfaction to feel I was able to help. /j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko servers
Hi Nikolaus, I know about one association which is willing to support development of Open Souce Hardware and Openmoko. It's Openmobility. Organizing annual conference is not our only agenda. We have legal statute of non-profit association with council elected each 2 years. Majority of our members are current or former Neo FreeRunner users. Currently we are looking for people capable of running their own Open Source mobile or hardware project. Anybody from Openmoko community can join. We can backup data from openmoko.org on our server and create new infrastructure on openmoko.cz, if Openmoko Inc. can't handle this anymore. Best Regards, Martin Martix Holec Dne 30.4.2012 20:21, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napsal(a): Am 30.04.2012 um 19:18 schrieb Martix: Hi, docs.openmoko.org and svn.openmoko.org are still down. Shoud I be worried about destiny of other *.openmoko.org services like wiki.openmoko.org? Please provide at least backups and dumps for wiki. Best Regards, Martin Martix Holec Dne 22.4.2012 21:35, Bob Ham napsal(a): Mr Moss-Pultz, The server docs.openmoko.org (aka svn.openmoko.org) has been down for some time. Word around the camp fire has it that it is down because the hosting company has blocked access to the machine; that they require a signature from yourself in order to transfer control to the administrator; and that this signature has not been received. Could I ask: is there a particular reason that this signature has not been provided? Are you unwilling to relinquish control? The situation needs to be resolved so that we can get access to the data hosted on the server, and preferably as soon as possible. Kind regards, Bob Ham Looks like another example where some Openmoko.org association or foundation could be helpful. I.e. someone who is *clearly* responsible. BR, Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko servers
Hi, docs.openmoko.org and svn.openmoko.org are still down. Shoud I be worried about destiny of other *.openmoko.org services like wiki.openmoko.org? Please provide at least backups and dumps for wiki. Best Regards, Martin Martix Holec Dne 22.4.2012 21:35, Bob Ham napsal(a): Mr Moss-Pultz, The server docs.openmoko.org (aka svn.openmoko.org) has been down for some time. Word around the camp fire has it that it is down because the hosting company has blocked access to the machine; that they require a signature from yourself in order to transfer control to the administrator; and that this signature has not been received. Could I ask: is there a particular reason that this signature has not been provided? Are you unwilling to relinquish control? The situation needs to be resolved so that we can get access to the data hosted on the server, and preferably as soon as possible. Kind regards, Bob Ham ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmobility Conference 2012 this Saturday (21st April) in Prague #OpenSourceHardware #MobileLinux
Hello, I'm inviting you on this European community gathering and I hope you will like our talks and workshops on Linux mobile platforms and Open Source Hardware topics, with real hardware in place! e.g. RepRap, GTA04, Beagle Bone, Raspberry Pi, Milkymist One...MeeGo, webOS, Qt 5/QML, Fedora etc. Please see full program: http://www.openmobility.eu/en/ All talks and workshops will be in English. -- Best Regards, Martin Martix Holec ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] Fwd: MFS Talk. Tues, 20 Mar. OpenPheonux (GTA04): Return of the free phone by Michael Dorrington
Thanks. Will you attend with GTA04 project? :-) Dne 19.3.2012 09:03, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napsal(a): I have added a link to the Events page: http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/page/Events/ Am 19.03.2012 um 08:49 schrieb Michael Dorrington: On 14/03/12 10:42, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Hi Michael, thanks for this support! Am 14.03.2012 um 10:11 schrieb Michael Dorrington: I am doing a talk about the GTA04 at Manchester Free Software, see details below. I'd really appreciate suggestions, ideas, tips, etc. on what to include. I think you can start with the materials from the FOSDEM presentation: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-February/066383.html Thanks. Please could I have advice on things to show in the talk that currently work on the GTA04A4 and any config needed to get them working. I've been trying various things out but have run out of time before the talk now. Regards, Mike. -- FSF member #9429 http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=9429 http://www.fsf.org/about The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is a nonprofit with a worldwide mission to promote computer user freedom and to defend the rights of all free software users. ___ Gta04-owner mailing list gta04-ow...@goldelico.com http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/gta04-owner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[CFP] international Openmobility conference 2012 - Call for papers
Hi community, I want you to invite on Openmobility conference 2012! We are organizing a third annual conference standing on Openmoko ideas, but this year with major upgrade. From this year, Openmobility conference is going to be international event. What does it mean? We will have speeches, workshops and lightning talks in English for international audience. Also, location we had chosen has better international transportation connection. Date: 21st April 2012 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Transportation and accommodation: Will be announced on http://www.openmobility.eu/en/ before end of March. *What we want from you?* Speak about your work/hobby/community, whatever is open mobile or Open Source Hardware. I am looking for people from Openmoko community, GTA04, SHR and Qt Moko developers. But it's not limited only to these projects, you could represent MeeGo/Mer/Nemo, webOS, Open Source forks of Android, Panda Board, Arduino, Raspberry Pi. I am sure, I have forgotten other great projects like OsmocomBB etc. So, please spread this message in various communities. :-) *CFP: Write your ideas and topic proposals on our e-mail: confere...@openmobility.eu mailto:confere...@openmobility.eu before 28th of March 2012.* Please read more on: http://www.openmobility.eu/conference/om2012/cfp Best Regards, Martin Martix Holec PS: If you cannot have a speech, you can simply visit our conference. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Distro + GPS package suggestions.
Hi, try look on modRana application and SHR distribution. see: http://modrana.org Best Regards, Martix Dne 4.2.2012 04:26, Wes Frazier napsal(a): I am dusting off my FreeRunner GTA02 and hope to be switching to it for my primary phone. I have used it to much success in the past but have always had problems with the GPS and GPS software in general. I am looking for suggestions as to which distro and which GPS package I can use together to get an experience somewhat comparable to OSMAnd http://osmand.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results
Dne 16.1.2012 09:31, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napsal(a): Let me describe my first observations from these figures (not deeply elaborated): 1. this result shows that we have a very large bandwidth what we see as an acceptable price. For some of us the current price (which is production cost driven) is ok, while for others it is far too high. 2. I find it interesting that there is no big difference between Q1 and Q2 which indicates that we either buy immediately or are just willing to add 50 EUR to make us unwilling buyers. This appears to be a strong mental level of maximum acceptable price. Or is it just available budget? If we have it we buy immediately, if we don't we can't even buy unwillingly? Or is it driven by the addition of Q2 only after 30 responses on Q1 only? 3. at the current price of the GTA04 group tour (450-500 EUR range) we can expect approx. 30% buyers. This would still mean 6000 of the originally sold GTA02 devices. Hm. We are still far away from this figure with subscriptions. What are the reasons? Because many people (not me) thinks that Neo FreeRunner was a failure, not just owners, but also people who read blogs, forums, e-mails... Associating Phoenix Phone with Openmoko's faults is bad marketing idea and is killing whole GTA04 project. Phoenix Phone needs at least whole new case and display competing with today's phone designs. 4. a final observation is that I have to conclude that some of us have no realistic perception of the market prices. More than 40% would not want to pay more than 200-250 EUR for a complete GTA04 (even with case etc.). On the contrary, many people compare GTA04 price with other OMAP3 based Linux phones like Nokia N900, simple supply and demand. 749 € is _not_ realistic for OMAP3 smartphone in 2012. This makes me really puzzled as the GTA02 was never sold cheaper than 199 EUR. Isn't getting UMTS, fast 3D graphics any value to the majority of the Openmoko community? Original Neo FreeRunner was never sold expensively than $399 (approx. 315€). Disclaimer: I voted higher price counting Navigation Board's price to Neo FreeRunner's. The cheapest UMTS Android 2.2 device I can currently get in Germany is at 129 EUR (most likely from some overstock clearance). Has a 320x240 display, no sensors, no free and open software. No hardware description, no schematics. Appears to be crap and much less featured than the GTA04. But the poll result indicates this is the way we should go. Really? I wnder how the community thinks it can be done at such low prices? Learn some pragmatic approach: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/509 Manufacturing in China is not always done under bad employees conditions. Also Raspberry Pi for $25/$35 is too expensive. The Allwinner A10 board with ARM Cortex-A8 and MALI400MP 3D graphics (with Open Source userspace driver) could be manufactured for $15. I know, it's just a CPU board, but what is your manufacturing price for just a GTA04's CPU board without peripherals? http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/ http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/news/ http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/pcb/ http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/PCMCIA I think GTA05 could be done more competitive. Best Regards, Martix PS: I'd like to donate to Kickstarter campaing for making complete GTA05 device under 300 €. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan
+1 We need to offer complete working smartphone before doing massive marketing to public. #1 mistake of Openmoko Inc. was unstable software stack, switching toolkits (GTK+, Qt, EFL) and hardware bugs. I think, we should provide stable and tested development platform (stable distribution, SDK and nice documentation), then write on various MLs and attract mobile developers, come up with some fancy product name (GTA04 is just codename) and then start broader marketing on various news websites. Best Regards, Martix Dne 30.12.2011 14:43, Fernando napsal(a): Hi, I have a GTA02 which I am using only for NeronGPS. I need a mobile for a few calls and SMS a month. Some months ago it did not receive an SMS and I have no idea why. I bought a 20EUR Samsung phone, put the chip in, and got the SMS. So, why should I be excited to buy a GTA04 for the price tag of a full android? I don't even know if I will be able to reliably receive the occasional SMS? Just a question, no ranting. BTW, I don't think it makes much sense to invest in marketing without a full product. It seems a too expensive proposition for a small market of GTA02 and without high confidence of still getting a reliable phone. Regards, Fernando On Dec 30, 2011 06:39 Alishams Hassam alishams.has...@gmail.com mailto:alishams.has...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, Firstly note that I am not a marketing expert by any means. I only wish to throw ideas out there and implement what I have time for. If there are any marketing experts on the list (heck, if you're even just interested), please speak up! The only experience you really need is the ability to write in your native language. I'm only familiar with English sources but anything will work. Let's coordinate efforts on the wiki, I'm sure Openmoko won't mind us piggybacking off their wiki ;p http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Marketing_GTA04 Things to mention: 1. The GTA04 *requires* an FR / NEO1974. This should serve as a request to get people who have these collecting dust, selling them online. Maybe this should be made more explicit? 2. The GTA04 has vastly improved on every area of the FR. 3. The GTA04 is made in a proper factory in the EU, and of quality parts, in small runs - hence the price tag. This will appeal to those of us who want things done right, not cheap. 4. Though there are non-free chunks, harm has been reduced as much as possible. Talking about how the wifi firmware has been isolated so it cannot interfere with the O/S is a great example. Areas to Attack: 1. Online and print magazines, news websites: We need to get the word out about the GTA04. I find myself agreeing with the claim that he GTA04 isn't well known about. This appeared on Slashdot early this month http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/12/01/1910213/openmokos-freerunner-rises-from-the-ashes No mention of a pre-order. There was an article in late July on the Salon blog: http://blog.slyon.de/2011/07/26/openmoko-gta04-is-getting-reality/ http://blog.slyon.de/2011/07/26/openmoko-gta04-is-getting-reality/%20Phornix http://www.phoronix.com/ also did an article http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTAzNDE on Openmoko just a few days ago, but only one line about the GTA04 : People are not excited, so let's make some noise! There are many other tech news sites out there. Ars Technica http://arstechnica.com/comes to mind, Lifehacker http://lifehacker.com/ and Make http://makezine.com/ would get a kick out of the board switching procedure, Wired is an older popular magazine, Phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/ I'm sure will do one focused on the GTA04 and 2600 http://www.2600.com/for the geeks who like print (someone please write a cool article for those guys - I promise you they'll publish it)! Jeez, I almost forgot to mention http://lwn.net/ Traditionally a press release is sent out. I've never written one before and don't particularly want to start with this. Is there anyone who has written one before? 2. Mailing lists of FOSS projects: This area cannot be done with a press release blast. Well it can, but I don't think the subscribers will appreciate spam. Ideally each of us can write a post about the GTA04 on any other FOSS lists we are on. I'll get the ball rolling with a post to the Debian user list soon.The other big relevant list to hit is the LXDE related mailing lists: lxde-list lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net, lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desk...@lists.launchpad.net mailto:lubuntu-desk...@lists.launchpad.net Plasma active could be another one, assuming it runs on the hardware, as with gnome-shell gnome-shell-l...@gnome.org mailto:gnome-shell-l...@gnome.org Let's get a list of mailings lists going on a wiki page. 3. Free Geeks Free Geek's are organizations dedicated to ethical recycling. They are all independently run so let's gather a list of each one's main mailing list and start a discussion
Re: Status GTA04 GroupTour
Hi, I think, you should focus more on present and make GTA04 price available to many members of this small community as you can. GTA04 is much expensive in comparison with other OMAP3 based mobile phones today. I know, cost is based on production volumes, but ordinary hackers likes cheap devices. You should try find balance and make GTA04 successful. The poll you announced yesterday was first move. Development costs and other margins can be gained through some fundraising sites like Kickstarter. Disclaimer: My view is based on dialogs with current or past owners of Neo FreeRunner that I know and my observations. Best Regards, Martix Dne 29.12.2011 13:14, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napsal(a): Am 29.12.2011 um 13:06 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Hi Ben, Am 29.12.2011 um 12:49 schrieb Ben Thompson: Hi Thank you for creating the GTA04. My problem is the early bird pricing which it seems to me requires some people pay more than others, without any real incentive or added value in the goods received. I don't want to pay 474 euros one Well, the early birds take a higher risk that the group tour does not start at all. If someone waits until 9th of February it is much easier to estimate. Those who subscribe early simply have to wait much longer although they have paid. This is why we developed this early bird rebate at all, to give some benefit to those who really subscribe early and taking more risk. day when you were offering the same item the day before for 449 euros. First you need to find out if my view is held by others, if so my advice would be to write to the current subscribers to the group tour explaining that you made a mistake with the pricing, and ask permission to cancel their orders. Then you could create a new group buy with fair pricing for all which I am guessing would be a price somewhere between 449 and 499 euros. The amount of the rebate we give to the early birds is driven by donations and these are too limited to spread to everyone. The fair price to everyone would be 499 EUR which covers all cost we expect (i.e. we don't have 350*50 EUR = 17500 EUR). I should ass that the 449-499 EUR also include some money set aside for developing future devices. Reducing the price for everyone by that amount wouldn't help for a long-term future. So what do those think who have already ordered? Would you think that cancelling the orders and start a new group buy is an way to go? Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SMedia Glamo documentation officially released
What do you mean by build? xserver-xorg-video-glamo source code is released under GNU/GPL from begining, but it lacks of many features as OpenGL ES 1.5 support and DRI compatible MPEG4 decoding. Linux kernel have compatibility issues with some SD cards, which can be workarounded by setting lower glamo_mci.sd_max_clk. Don't know whether is it HW or SW problem. Best Regards, Martix Dne 28.12.2011 19:31, Ed Kapitein napsal(a): That sounds great! Would this mean that someone can build a dedicated Xorg-server module for the glamo? Or was all this already a public secret through the leaked documents? Kind regards and a happy new year, Ed On 12/27/2011 09:46 PM, Martix wrote: Hi, I just found link to SMedia Glamo documentation on openmoko.org[1] in already published Community Updates.[2] [1] http://people.openmoko.org/sean/datasheets/glamo3362/ [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-12-01 I didn't find any announcement on Openmoko mailing list. Maybe Sean planned an announcement on Christmas Eve and forgot on it. Best Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SMedia Glamo documentation officially released
Some developers already had access to these docs under NDA. AFAIK last development was by Thomas White: http://www.bitwiz.org.uk/s/dri-for-the-freerunner.html before it was abandoned. Now more people have access to these docs and can review and improve drivers. Best Regards, Martix Dne 28.12.2011 22:58, Ed Kapitein napsal(a): So, would drivers written based on the released documentation overcome these shortcomings? Kind regards, Ed On 12/28/2011 09:12 PM, Martix wrote: What do you mean by build? xserver-xorg-video-glamo source code is released under GNU/GPL from begining, but it lacks of many features as OpenGL ES 1.5 support and DRI compatible MPEG4 decoding. Linux kernel have compatibility issues with some SD cards, which can be workarounded by setting lower glamo_mci.sd_max_clk. Don't know whether is it HW or SW problem. Best Regards, Martix Dne 28.12.2011 19:31, Ed Kapitein napsal(a): That sounds great! Would this mean that someone can build a dedicated Xorg-server module for the glamo? Or was all this already a public secret through the leaked documents? Kind regards and a happy new year, Ed On 12/27/2011 09:46 PM, Martix wrote: Hi, I just found link to SMedia Glamo documentation on openmoko.org[1] in already published Community Updates.[2] [1] http://people.openmoko.org/sean/datasheets/glamo3362/ [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-12-01 I didn't find any announcement on Openmoko mailing list. Maybe Sean planned an announcement on Christmas Eve and forgot on it. Best Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SMedia Glamo documentation officially released
Hi, I just found link to SMedia Glamo documentation on openmoko.org[1] in already published Community Updates.[2] [1] http://people.openmoko.org/sean/datasheets/glamo3362/ [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-12-01 I didn't find any announcement on Openmoko mailing list. Maybe Sean planned an announcement on Christmas Eve and forgot on it. Best Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: temperature and humidity data logger
Do you know about any documentation for these 433 MHz proprietary protocols? What about using 802.15.4 or ZigBee? I want to use Freescale MC13233C [1] in my indoor/outdoor temperature and humidity monitoring project. Please tell me, if you know about cheaper 802.15.4/ZigBee modul or about any free samples from semiconductor manufacturers. [1] http://cz.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?id=1973239 Best Regards, Martix Dne 19.11.2011 16:17, Boudewijn napsal(a): On Saturday 19 November 2011 07:54:22 Hans Zimmerman wrote: Hey all, I would like to start logging the temperature and humidity inside our house. Are there people with experience in using the freerunner as a temperature and humidity data logger? What kind of devices would be connectible (usb, bluetooth, other) to do that? Apart from I2C, perhaps 433MHz equipment is an option? I have been looking into combining that with my Freerunner (or Phoenux) for home automation. There are those weather stations that come quite cheap as long as you don't need USB (or other generally available) connection. Many of them use the same chips and for Arduino there's a library [1] available to read temp and humidity. Then you still have to interface from Arduino to your Freerunner of course (and you'd need an Arduino). Boudewijn [1] https://bitbucket.org/fuzzillogic/433mhzforarduino/wiki/Home ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sharing TSM30 source
Dne 16.11.2011 06:57, Michael Sokolov napsal(a): Martixmartix...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, so let's upload it somewhere, if you belive in what you said. Give me the hostname, username and password for an FTP server to which I can upload it, and I'll promptly do so. Needs to be FTP: I am too old and mentally handicapped to learn more modern means. I can only do uploads with the plain old command line ftp client. Sorry, I don't have any suitable FTP server. I think, cryptome.org should work well. As I've already promised, I'm going to send them a copy of my CD-R set. I'll do it as soon as I get back to my facility, which will be some time later this week: right now I'm over 100 km away, working for a paying client so I can feed my family. But I still don't understand why you yourself aren't willing to request a CD-R copy from me. Why don't you just get the CD-R copy from me (send me a snail mail addr off-list), and when it arrives in a few days, upload it to whatever more-modern-than-FTP file sharing service you like? Waiting for some volunteer archivist at Cryptome to look at my CDs, figure out what's there and add it to their site will probably take longer, and that assumes that they are interested in hosting such subject matter in the first place. Ok, no need to hurry. Openmoko community waited for more than three years for full open access to whole GTA02 internals, we can wait another month. Now we have access to full documentation for TI Calypso and SMedia Glamo and GSM firmware is on the way. We have opportunity to study and fix it. What remains closed are GPS, Wi-Fi and probably Bluetooth firmwares and low-level registry documentation. Anyway thanks for your archaeological research and sharing the results with Openmoko community. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommendations for a data-only GSM/UMTS device in USB stick ff
Dne 15.11.2011 02:24, Michael Sokolov napsal(a): Oh, and before anyone accuses me of being a hypocrite and hoarding or not-sharing the TSM30 FW source which I have finally located, let me reiterate I *do* freely and readily share this source with everyone in the world, just not via the Internet. Not via the Internet because my current FTP server doesn't have enough disk space and my external Internet connection is too slow. Instead I am offering a CD-R copy by snail mail to anyone in the world who wants one. Just give me a snail mail address (PO Box / anonymous / whatever, I don't care) and I'll send a CD-R copy out the same week, maybe even the same day. Anyone who would like to see it made freely available via the Internet is welcome to get the CD-R copy from me, then host it on his/her own server: everyone in the world but me uses newer HW for which half a GiB is nothing, and I'm sure that most people in the world have faster Internet connections than my 384 kbps symmetric. If you really have that sources, you can upload them on some public file sharing website and post link here on mailing list. Of course, you are going to lose control over this files and broke some terms of service rules, but you don't recognize this bourgeois rules, right? For inspiration, there are links to leaked TI Calypso documentation hosted on some leaks-friendly file sharing service: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TI_Calypso_D751992AZHH You don't really need to host files on your personal FTP server, if you don't need to keep access logs for let's say statistics purposes, of course. And I do have hardware docs for both Calypso and Glamo on my public FTP site: they are small enough, unlike the *gigantic* TSM30 FW source and the associated development environment. (The latter is for Windows unfortunately, and is required to compile the darned thing, until someone does the massive work to port it to compile with gcc binutils toolchain.) MS ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sharing TSM30 source
Dne 15.11.2011 20:31, Michael Sokolov napsal(a): Martixmartix...@gmail.com wrote: If you really have that sources, you can upload them on some public file sharing website and post link here on mailing list. I don't know of any public file sharing websites to which anyone can upload anything. For example Rapidshare or maybe Ubuntu One on your laptop... Of course, you are going to lose control over this files What control? What in the world makes you think that I desire some kind of control over something that rightfully belongs in the public domain? Ok, so let's upload it somewhere, if you belive in what you said. and broke some terms of service rules, Whose? That was related to file sharing services in general. They are being misused for sharing warez and other prohibited stuff for years, but theirs terms of service are just legal boilerplates. For inspiration, there are links to leaked TI Calypso documentation hosted on some leaks-friendly file sharing service: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TI_Calypso_D751992AZHH The PDF file links on that wiki page are to cryptome.org. Just checked that site out: nice work. I don't see an upload mechanism anywhere, but then uploading a 500 MiB file over my 384 kbps connection would be rather unbearable anyway. But their main page lists their snail mail address (in New York): that works for me, I'll send them a copy of my archive which currently stands at 5 CDs, one of which is that TSM30 source + development environment. But of course it will be up to them whether or not they are interested in adding my contribution to their website archive. I think, cryptome.org should work well. 500 MiB transfer over 384 kbps link is only ~178 minutes, so almost 3 hours. That's much faster than snail mail...but you have right of choise. I'm curious, what's on the other CDs? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some newbee questions about Qtmoko, navit, Vodafone GPRS and battery capacity
2011/7/18 Sebastian Reinhardt s...@lmv-hartmannsdorf.de: Am 18.07.2011 10:04, schrieb Radek Polak: Sebastian Reinhardt wrote: 3. If I switch off all radio, exccept the gsm, the battery is unloaded during night (8-9h). Is this OK or is the battery broken (due to long storage time at Handheld Linux)? You need to suspend the phone. This can be done with POWER button or better lock the sceen in QtMoko home screen. Yes. I have done this. Example: yesterday evening, the phone was fully charged and I choose power off gps power off wifi and power off bluetooth. I locked the screen before going to bed. Today in the morning (7-8h later) the battery symbol was showing only one bar. Sometimes I got the alert of an critical battery level, but not today. So I think, anything is not ok. :-( Didn't you enabled GSM deep sleep mode on FR without recamping fix? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM_oscillating_between_registered_and_not_registered_aka_1024 Anyway, check if GSM deep sleep is disabled. There should be an option for this in NeoControl. Best Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner screen/case improvements (was: Shiftd)
Speaking about screen I prefer AMOLED displays. Advantages: higher contrast on sunshine and generally less power consumption than backlit LCD, especially with GUI based on theme with white or colored text and icons on black background. AMOLED with red GUI on black background is also great for preservation of night vision, great for astronomers etc. Also price is low. Regards, Martix 2011/6/10 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com: Benjamin Deering ben_deer...@swissmail.org writes: On 06/10/2011 10:14 AM, Denis Shulyaka wrote: The only weak point of GTA04 would be the small screen (in physical dimensions) and lack of capacitive sensetivity. A bigger screen/cooler case would be nice, but keep the resistive touch-screen. It works better in the rain/snow. It seems to work better with dry/cold fingertips, also. It also allows for higher-precision input, which is really valuable sometimes..., but more important is that it works *at all* for me--where my friends' capacitive iPhones (and some other devices) that I've tried simply don't work :( -- Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Video of SMD production of Freerunner Navigation Boards (GTA04 will look similar)
Hi, thats really nice video. Best Regards, Martin Martix Holec 2011/6/9 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: Dear all, we were allowed to look over the shoulders of the workers at the SMD fab that produces the Freerunner Navigation Board V3 and the GTA04. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngyhKr3yTO8 It shows how the PCBs are set up, how the pickplace machine is set up and how the components are placed. Finally, it goes through the reflow oven. The video shows the Freerunner Navigation boards which were produced yesterday and are finalized today. They promised to produce the first two GTA04A3 boards today so that we can test them in the next days and week. Since it looks very similar we do without another video. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Navigation Board v3 - Power management
Hi, 2011/5/21 Christoph Mair m...@chonyota.net: Hi, Am Samstag 21 Mai 2011, 16:41:06 schrieb Martix: How much of power Navigation Board v3 consume, both in operational state (all sensors are active) and in idle state (all sensors are powered down)? Can I power down whole board from software? All sensors support a sleep state which reduces power consumption fo a few µA. I will add exact numbers to the wiki page. The sleep state is activated automatically after power-on. Therefore you have to talk to the sensor to activate it. The only exception is the gyroscope ITG-3200. This sensor needs the kernel module which will switch it of immediately after the module was loaded. If you forget to do this, it will consume about 6mA, IIRC. could be board VCC connected somehow to the PMU (PCF50633)? Perhaps, Navigation Board could use free power line from PMU, if it's available or share power line with one accelerometer or GPS. I don't know much about the PMU, but I tried to connect the board to one accelerometers VCC pin. It works, but I would not recommend it, because the I2C lines are pulled up when idle. If the chips do not get powered, some current may flows from the bus lines to ground. This could be more that the normal standby current. But I have to admit that I did not thest this yet. Ok, I understand, current can leak through accerometer to GND. But, this can also happen with VCC connected to AUX, when AUX LED is on. This could be explanation for NOR u-boot problem. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/I2C#Powering_additional_I2C_devices According to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Navigation_Board#Installation the AUX power is disabled in suspend. Is this PMU behavior configurable from software? For example, if I want to wake up Neo FreeRunner from suspend by IRQ interrupt from Navigation Board. I know about test pins with 0R resitors on PMU power outputs used for external current measurement, VCC could be provided from one of these pads. I'd like to hear more about these 0Rs.. These pins could by used for current measurement (for example replace 0R by 0.1R and measure voltage drop on it) or for powering peripheral devices from external sources. For practical use see: http://ertos.nicta.com.au/publications/papers/Carroll_Heiser_10.pdf Did anybody considered PMU power management approach with Navigation Board? It should not be needed and could even be a bad idea. See above. Fortunately, I've found free PMU power output LDO3OUT alias test pin H-TP1702, which is proper solution for powering expansion devices/board like this. On the other hand its not easily accessible as AUX button or accelerometer, because its located near PMU under EM shielding, but its not impossible to wire it out. (Please, keep this in mind during GTA04 design process and wire at least one 3V3 power line outside shielding.) PS: It would be nice to have some informations regarding power management documented on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Navigation_Board_v3 I will add some more info. The wiki page lacks a few other updates too.. pinout and new pictures, for example.. I will try to fix this tomorrow. Best Regards, Christoph Best Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo FreeRunner rework party and Openmobility conference 2011 (Czech Republic)
Report from the last year's Openmobility conference is on the SHR blog: http://blog.shr-project.org/2010/04/shr-project-gets-a-successful-presentation-at-openmobility-conference.html And photos: http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/fotky-openmobility/ Best Regards, Martin Martix Holec openmobility.cz/openmoko.cz 2011/5/19 Martix martix...@gmail.com: Hello community, Firstly, I like to invite you (especially Czech and Slovak guys) to Openmobility conference 2011, which will be held on Saturday 18th June 2011 in Brno on FI MUNI. You can look forward to many talks and workshops (in Czech/Slovak language) about open mobile platforms and open source hardware. organizators: people from Czech Openmoko community (Openmobility o.s.) attending platforms: MeeGo/Maemo, webOS, Android... attending devices: Nokia N900, Neo FreeRunner, Touch Book, Genesi Efika, Panda Board, STAX, Arduino…feel free to bring yours! More informations and program here: http://www.openmobility.cz/konference/openmobility-konference-2011/ Secondly, we are going to setup Neo FreeRunner rework party again and fix your Neo FreeRunner's favourite hardware bugs! This rework party will be day after Openmobility conference on Sunday 19th June 2011 in Brno on FIT VUT room L220. GSM buzz fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_Fix GSM recamping fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024 Headphones bass fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix NEW reworks: RTC backup battery replace by supercapacitor: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_RTC_backup_battery Navigation Board v3 with 3D gyroscope, 3D magnetometer, air pressure/temperature sensor and other parts: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Navigation_Board_v3 We will order Navigation Boards from Golden Delicious Computers: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Navigation%20Board Registrations for FR rework party: http://www.doodle.com/4uhndmddtuvepkbz Please choose your rework before 22th May (this Sunday!) we need to order parts in time. We are looking forward to meeting you. Best Regards, Martin Martix Holec openmobility.cz/openmoko.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo FreeRunner rework party and Openmobility conference 2011 (Czech Republic)
2011/5/21 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: Hi Martix, what a pity that I don't speak or understand Czech/Slovak language... Hi Nikolaus, unfortunately, we don't have yet enough experiences, people and resources for organizing international english-spoken event. Although, I like to see this happening in the future, when more people gets involved in organisation. Next year, we would like to invite some foreign guest(s) involved in open mobile platforms or open source hardware development to have a talks about their projects. I hope that we have the first GTA04-EA units shipped by that time and I know that two early adopters come from Czech republic. Nice to hear that! But, I don't know who had ordered these GTA04 and I'm not sure whether they heard about our conference. Please, could you forward them an invitation for Openmobility conference? We really like to see these GTA04 units. I wish a great success! Nikolaus Thanks. BTW: there are plans for a new Open HardSoftware Workshop in Germany (German language) this summer/fall. Please register to the mailing list if you want to participate in planning and attending: http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/open-hard-software-event http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?p=19016sid=25b03499f5c7a29e53081feeb4e73940#p19016 Sorry, I don't speak German, but I'll forward your invitation to other people. Next time, we could join our efforts and make some english-spoken event together... Best Regards, Martin Holec ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FreeRunner Navigation Board v3 - Power management
Hello, How much of power Navigation Board v3 consume, both in operational state (all sensors are active) and in idle state (all sensors are powered down)? Can I power down whole board from software? If not, could be board VCC connected somehow to the PMU (PCF50633)? Perhaps, Navigation Board could use free power line from PMU, if it's available or share power line with one accelerometer or GPS. I know about test pins with 0R resitors on PMU power outputs used for external current measurement, VCC could be provided from one of these pads. Did anybody considered PMU power management approach with Navigation Board? I like to hear your opinion and suggestions about this matter. PS: It would be nice to have some informations regarding power management documented on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Navigation_Board_v3 Best Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo FreeRunner rework party and Openmobility conference 2011 (Czech Republic)
Hello community, Firstly, I like to invite you (especially Czech and Slovak guys) to Openmobility conference 2011, which will be held on Saturday 18th June 2011 in Brno on FI MUNI. You can look forward to many talks and workshops (in Czech/Slovak language) about open mobile platforms and open source hardware. organizators: people from Czech Openmoko community (Openmobility o.s.) attending platforms: MeeGo/Maemo, webOS, Android... attending devices: Nokia N900, Neo FreeRunner, Touch Book, Genesi Efika, Panda Board, STAX, Arduino…feel free to bring yours! More informations and program here: http://www.openmobility.cz/konference/openmobility-konference-2011/ Secondly, we are going to setup Neo FreeRunner rework party again and fix your Neo FreeRunner's favourite hardware bugs! This rework party will be day after Openmobility conference on Sunday 19th June 2011 in Brno on FIT VUT room L220. GSM buzz fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_Fix GSM recamping fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/1024 Headphones bass fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix NEW reworks: RTC backup battery replace by supercapacitor: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_RTC_backup_battery Navigation Board v3 with 3D gyroscope, 3D magnetometer, air pressure/temperature sensor and other parts: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Navigation_Board_v3 We will order Navigation Boards from Golden Delicious Computers: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Navigation%20Board Registrations for FR rework party: http://www.doodle.com/4uhndmddtuvepkbz Please choose your rework before 22th May (this Sunday!) we need to order parts in time. We are looking forward to meeting you. Best Regards, Martin Martix Holec openmobility.cz/openmoko.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: performance testing of UNWIND kernel option
Hi, thanks for comparison. I miss test with both CONFIG_ARM_UNWIND and CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER disabled, theoreticaly it could be faster. Anyway, why regular user (no developer, nor tester) needs to have CONFIG_ARM_UNWIND or CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER enabled? I suggest to disable CONFIG_ARM_UNWIND in stable kernel images. Stable I mean (in this case) kernel versions which is well tested in SHR-t and stable revisions of Qt Moko. Thanks Denis and Gennady. Martin 'Martix' Holec openmoko.cz/openmobility.cz 2011/3/8 Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com: Hi, list. Today I noticed the following change in SHR: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=1516588acd3c4b4dd4add71d06ab8ce0d1bafa02 (by Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org) and decided to lmbench it. Here are results: http://www.bsdmn.com/lmbench/unwind_summary.txt You can see comparison of: 34def - kernel with CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER unwind - kernel with CONFIG_ARM_UNWIND default - for reference, old debugging kernel The unwind option provide clear benefit of 5%-10% in almost every area. Nice spot Denis! Gennady. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: performance testing of UNWIND kernel option
Ok, it is reasonable to keep CONFIG_ARM_UNWIND enabled when this option have no practical effect on performance or latency in kernel. So, keep it enabled. :-) Martin 'Martix' Holec openmoko.cz / openmobility.cz 2011/3/8 Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com: Hi, 1. UNWIND do not influence performance, so enabling it should make no harm (according to kernel doc, i trust em 99.9%). 2. ability to get stack trace is widely accepted bare minimum of debug info, this is info is _really_ (not like other hardly usable debugging stuff were enabled earlier) invaluable for fixing and identifying problems found. So, no reason remove both. It is even kind of switch in kernel config turn on UNWIND - FRAME_POINTER turns off. No affect on performance, add ability to identify problem - must have IMO. Gennady. В Втр, 08/03/2011 в 16:40 +0100, Martix пишет: Hi, thanks for comparison. I miss test with both CONFIG_ARM_UNWIND and CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER disabled, theoreticaly it could be faster. Anyway, why regular user (no developer, nor tester) needs to have CONFIG_ARM_UNWIND or CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER enabled? I suggest to disable CONFIG_ARM_UNWIND in stable kernel images. Stable I mean (in this case) kernel versions which is well tested in SHR-t and stable revisions of Qt Moko. Thanks Denis and Gennady. Martin 'Martix' Holec openmoko.cz/openmobility.cz 2011/3/8 Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com: Hi, list. Today I noticed the following change in SHR: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=1516588acd3c4b4dd4add71d06ab8ce0d1bafa02 (by Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org) and decided to lmbench it. Here are results: http://www.bsdmn.com/lmbench/unwind_summary.txt You can see comparison of: 34def - kernel with CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER unwind - kernel with CONFIG_ARM_UNWIND default - for reference, old debugging kernel The unwind option provide clear benefit of 5%-10% in almost every area. Nice spot Denis! Gennady. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Audio path gain, was: Re: Bluetooth module
Did you really meant bass fix? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix Or buzz fix: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_Fix ? 2011/2/6 Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz: I was doing bass-fix to my Freerunner today so I did the the same measurement with generator again. I run Voice notes and set the generator so that the amplitude was simmilar to the amplitude of voice, captured by the microphone. LAter on I was listening to the files recorded when setting the generator and the 1kHz beep was clean and the volume was OK. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: barom - an altimeter/weather utility for freerunner
Hi, AFAIK you can edit Openmoko wiki without being logged in. However, it's always better to register your own account for credibility. :-) Martix 2011/2/5 Benjamin Deering ben_deer...@swissmail.org: Hello All, I think this project is working well enough to share: http://jeepingben.homelinux.net/barom/ This project uses the bmp085 barometer to show either weather or altitude. The bmp085 is part of the freerunner navigation board, is to be part of the GTA04, and can be installed separately. I don't think I have an account to edit the openmoko wiki, but this could go under userspace software in the Freerunner Navigation Board page. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-Devel] some advertising
You should try lightspark. It's open source Flash player implementation and has support for recent versions of Flash. Regard, Martix 2011/1/15 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org: I did a video as well, showing my new dual-booting solution called Bootr: http://vimeo.com/18744450 With Bootr you can switch between WebOS and SHR at bootup. Bootr lives here: https://github.com/slyon/bootr I tried really hard to see this video, I tried : *viewing with gnash *using some download website that were suspicious: **some require java **some wants you to install some toolbars *using cclive *using cclive from git(didn't compile) *using greasemonkey(greasemonkey extension was unavailable due to website issues) *using grease monkey again(when it became available again) with http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/56677 It displayed a bar but clicking on it shown a page with the following written: Technical Difficulties Whoops! We are having some technical difficulties, please try again in a minute. So is there a way to view that video without installing the non-free flash player? Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-Devel] some advertising
Oops, I had tested lightspark only on Youtube and I just tried it with Vimeo and it's not working for now. But in general, lightspark works better with videos than Gnash or other open source Flashplayer implementations like swfdec. I hope, they'll fix Vimeo support soon. Regards, Martix 2011/1/15 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Martix martix...@gmail.com writes: http://vimeo.com/18744450 You should try lightspark. It's open source Flash player implementation and has support for recent versions of Flash. lightspark seems to be very new. It's not even in debian unstable yet (only experimental). Have you tested that vimeo actually works with it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Good evening to everyone
2010/12/31 Hrabosh zbyne...@volny.cz: Hello guys, I got my FreeRunner few weeks ago and since that I'm having fun discovering it :-) Hi and welcome to Openmoko community! 9/ People I call with are complaining about bad sound quality. Did it happen to any of you? Do people on other side hear the typical GSM buzz? You may know it from sound speakers while somebody is calling... If so, one guy from our Czech Openmoko community can make buzzfix for you. Feel free to join to our Jabber conference: openm...@muc.openmoko.cz and ask Itchy007. Thanks for your time, Zbynek, Brno, Czech Republic Best regards, Martix, Czech Republic http://www.openmoko.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dfu-util doesn't list NAND partitions
Hi, I had this problem few months ago. You should flash u-boot to NAND by nandwrite and run dynpart and dynenv set u-boot_env in NAND u-boot console. see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Nandwrite Then you can flash all partitions (including NAND u-boot) via dfu-util from running NAND u-boot. 2010/12/26 Ivan Matveev imatvee...@nm.ru: Hi, the issue described at http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2348 is still there. Tried with 2 versions of dfu-util dfu-util --intf 0 -l dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=53, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade ./dfu-util --intf 0 -l dfu-util - (C) 2005-2008 by Weston Schmidt, Harald Welte and OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY dfu-util does currently only support DFU version 1.0 Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=55, cfg=0, intf=2, alt=0, name=USB Device Firmware Upgrade ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v30; UBIFS; can't boot
2010/12/27 Ivan Matveev imatvee...@nm.ru: Can this be done from FR with no PC? nandump, edit, crc32, nandwrite? Oh my... If u-boot_env partition contained a decent ext2(like identity-ext2 partition does) you could download it with dfu-utl, mount, edit files, put back to the phone. On a booted FR you could just mount -t ext2 /dev/mtdblock2 /mnt/whatever edit files... Hi, you can edit u-boot environment from u-boot console. see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Martix/U-Boot_environment ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: backup battery and case screws questions
I suggest using double-layer super capacitor* intead of Lithium backup battery. These capacitors stores energy for a long time, like a battery and they have much longer lifetime. 0,2 F capacity should be enough for RTC backup on several hours, maybe days. * http://cz.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=1002210+5117013+5087727+5400445No=0getResults=trueappliedparametrics=truelocale=cs_CZcatalogId=prevNValues=1002210+5117013filtersHidden=falseappliedHidden=falseoriginalQueryURL=%2Fjsp%2Fsearch%2Fbrowse.jsp%3FN%3D1002210%26No%3D0%26getResults%3Dtrue%26appliedparametrics%3Dtrue%26locale%3Dcs_CZ%26catalogId%3D%26prevNValues%3D1002210 Best regards, Martix 2010/10/24 Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it: 2010-10...@20:44 Benjamin Deering Has anyone done this replacement before? any gotchas? no, but I think it's not too difficult if you have a little experience with DIY. I've this (known) problem too but I'm afraid if I replace the battery it'll die as the old one... not sure... but I think I can live with that and so I never remove the main battery. Also,as anyone found a source for replacement torx case screws? I think it's easy to find in any good hardware shop (not computer-hardware eh! the one that sells you screwdrivers, electric drills Co.) -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help from Always Innovative ?
Probably you meant company named Always Innovating[1] which is selling a netbooks/tablets/MIDs* based on OMAP 3530 [Cortex-A8 (ARM11)]. [1] http://www.alwaysinnovating.com * Touch Book, Touch Book II, Smart Book, Mini Book GSM/3G support in Mini Book would be nice. Regards, Martix PS: I am Touch Book owner. 2010/9/20 Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr: Hi, As I was surfing, I found that the company Always Innovative(1) is selling a new mini PC (3.5). It's ARM8 based, touch interface, but without any GSM connectivity. A.I. is producing open hardware, they already have production processes, a well knowledge in Arm and also other good point (founder is French ;-)). So, does anybody think a collaboration maybe helpfull ? -- Thomas HOCEDEZ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to maximize GPS battery life ?
Hi, you can save power by lowing GPS sampling rate: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Configuration_for_a_higher_sampling_rate AFAIK, sample rate should be configurable between 0.250-64 seconds. Look at UBX protocol documentation for more power saving options: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#UBX_protocol Regards, Martix 2010/9/10, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com: Hi folks, if I want to use my FR as a GPS track logger (for an OSM mapping party for example), what is the best way to save battery life ? It seems that GPS chip is able to keep the fix while FR is suspended (/sys/devices/platform/gta02-pm-gps.0/keep_on_in_suspend), but I need the CPU to log data, don't I ? Currently, I think I would do something like this : - shut down GSM (FR is also my phone) - launch fsoraw -r GPS tangogps and start logging - let the FR disable display after 30s (problem : any touch on screen will keep it up) Any idea ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: orrery crashing X
Hi,
thanks for patch. I think you found two bugs, first in Orrery and
second in X, because it didn't crash several months before (and it
shouldn't). Maybe it's caused by some regression in X or perhaps lots
of gdk_draw_points allocated too much memory and X has been killed by
OOM killer. You can test this condition with swap.
Regards,
Martix
2010/9/3 Benjamin Deering ben_deer...@swissmail.org:
Hello All,
I've missed having orrery this summer. Today I took a look at why it
was causing X to crash. The crash happens when the program calls
gdk_draw_point for every star it displays. I changed my copy to draw
all of the stars into a GdkPixbuf, then I copy the GdkPixbuf onto the
drawable area.
Maybe someone knows why lots of gdk_draw_points would crash X.
I think using the GdkPixbuf is faster anyways, so I'll try to add this
to the bug posted on the orrery project page.
Ben
--- orrery.c 2009-11-30 00:59:44.0 -0500
+++ orrery/orrery.c 2010-09-02 20:16:24.0 -0400
@@ -1188,6 +1188,7 @@
readStarCatalog(fD);
showingFaintStars = FALSE;
}
+
nDarkGreyPoints = nGreyPoints = nWhitePoints = 0;
darkGreyLimit = DARK_GREY_LIMIT/magScale;
greyLimit = GREY_LIMIT/magScale;
@@ -1238,12 +1239,47 @@
}
currentEntry = currentEntry-forwardPointer;
}
- if (nDarkGreyPoints 0)
- gdk_draw_points(pixmap, darkGreyGC, darkGreyPoints, nDarkGreyPoints);
- if (nGreyPoints 0)
- gdk_draw_points(pixmap, greyGC, greyPoints, nGreyPoints);
- if (nWhitePoints 0)
- gdk_draw_points(pixmap, whiteGC, whitePoints, nWhitePoints);
+ GdkPixbuf* starDrawingBuf = gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable( NULL,
+
pixmap,
+
gdk_colormap_get_system()
+
, 0, 0, 0, 0, displayWidth, displayHeight);
+ g_assert (gdk_pixbuf_get_bits_per_sample (starDrawingBuf) == 8);
+ guchar* p;
+ int rowstride = gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride (starDrawingBuf);
+ guchar* pixels = gdk_pixbuf_get_pixels (starDrawingBuf);
+ int n_channels = gdk_pixbuf_get_n_channels (starDrawingBuf);
+ GdkGCValues starGCval;
+ GdkColor starColor;
+ int pointNum;
+ gdk_gc_get_values(darkGreyGC, starGCval);
+ gdk_colormap_query_color( gdk_gc_get_colormap(darkGreyGC),
starGCval.foreground.pixel, starColor );
+ for( pointNum = 0; pointNum nDarkGreyPoints; pointNum++)
+ {
+ p = pixels + darkGreyPoints[pointNum].y * rowstride +
darkGreyPoints[pointNum].x * n_channels;
+ p[0] = starColor.red 0xff;
+ p[1] = starColor.green 0xff;
+ p[2] = starColor.blue 0xff;
+ }
+ gdk_gc_get_values(greyGC, starGCval);
+ gdk_colormap_query_color( gdk_gc_get_colormap(greyGC),
starGCval.foreground.pixel, starColor );
+ for( pointNum = 0; pointNum nGreyPoints; pointNum++)
+ {
+ p = pixels + greyPoints[pointNum].y * rowstride +
greyPoints[pointNum].x * n_channels;
+ p[0] = starColor.red 0xff;
+ p[1] = starColor.green 0xff;
+ p[2] = starColor.blue 0xff;
+ }
+ gdk_gc_get_values(whiteGC, starGCval);
+ gdk_colormap_query_color( gdk_gc_get_colormap(whiteGC),
starGCval.foreground.pixel, starColor );
+ for( pointNum = 0; pointNum nWhitePoints; pointNum++)
+ {
+ p = pixels + whitePoints[pointNum].y * rowstride +
whitePoints[pointNum].x * n_channels;
+ p[0] = starColor.red 0xff;
+ p[1] = starColor.green 0xff;
+ p[2] = starColor.blue 0xff;
+ }
+ gdk_draw_pixbuf ( pixmap , NULL , starDrawingBuf,
+ 0, 0, 0, 0, displayWidth, displayHeight,
GDK_RGB_DITHER_NORMAL, 0, 0 ) ;
}
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Re: Using freerunner as webcam display
Consider, if you can switch recording to MPEG-2. You can play MPEG-2 video at much more fps with Glamo 2-4-2 timings. Or you can try this: http://unadventure.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/accelerating-in-my-pocket/ and accelerate MPEG-4 on Glamo, but it's not yet ported to new kernels with DRI architecture. Regards, Martix 2010/9/3 Alexander Lehner leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de: On Fri, 3 Sep 2010, Patryk Benderz wrote: Dnia 2010-09-03, pi? o godzinie 13:52 +0200, Alexander Lehner pisze: Hi, I've got a TrentNET wireless webcam and just found out how to access its mpeg4 video stream and am using now my GPS-broken freerunner as permanent display for this webcam: mplayer -nosound -vf rotate=2 -vo fbdev rtsp://webcam-ipaddr:554/mpeg4 Nice one :). I had to turn down the cam's fps to 2 for a real-time video without delay. Did you discovered what is the bottleneck? I think it's the CPU which is around 90% already at 2fps. Another problem is, that the mpeg stream sometimes seems to be corrupt which crashess mplayer after some time. So I did a 'while true; do mplayer...; done' around and set codecs and other parameters by hand to avoid the autodetection. BR, Alex. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko
2010/8/14 Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de: PS: I heard on IRC something about next Openmoko phone running Android. I think, it's a good idea. Please note Android is a Google(TM) product. TM stands for total monopol. Or terrible monster. Google is evil. Android is no free OS. I agree. But Openmoko Inc. need sales like every hardware company. It can use Android's fame for second start-up and make open hardware more attractive to lot of people. Martin 'Martix' Holec ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WikiReader sales and the future of Openmoko Was: When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Hi community, I want to share a few news about WikiReader and Openmoko Inc. I am publishing with permission my short interview with Sean Moss-Pultz the CEO of Openmoko Inc.: ___ May I have a question? How is it going with WikiReader? Are WikiReader sales satisfactory? Much better than expected. We're getting into major US retailers this summer. And launching in Japan tomorrow. We've already sold 4x the total number of FreeRunners. And we're just getting into the channel now. So I'm quite excited about our chances with this product! I wonder if you and your company are planning to create more open source/open design devices, maybe successor of Neo? Absolutely! WikiReader is fundamental to this. What we're doing is getting our channel setup. To survive in consumer electronics you need volume. And still, the only way to get volume is through retail stores. So everything we're doing is focusing on making that successful. Then we can build more product that stand for the same principles (open) that got us started. ___ Regards, Martin 'Martix' Holec PS: I heard on IRC something about next Openmoko phone running Android. I think, it's a good idea. Android will provide stable software and community can port existing fully open distributions like SHR, Qt Moko etc., which it should be easier on open hardware. After experience with Neo FreeRunner it seems like better plan. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Next Community Updates issue
Hi Openmoko community, Last issue of Community Updates was great and the next release is very close, but the wiki article is blank so far. I like to see more volunteers contributing to Community Updates. What is status of FSO framework development? New features, devices or bug fixes? New distribution version or major package upgrade? Long time no heard about Qt Moko, Hackable:1 and Android. Do you have new application for Openmoko platform or do you know about application update? Status of Linux 2.6.34 on Neo FreeRunner? Do you know about new hack or improvement for Neo FreeRunner? Any Openmoko community event in summer? Write about this to Community Updates, deadline is on this Saturday! Please feel free to contribute to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-08-01 and don't hesitate to release it in time. Regards, Martin 'Martix' Holec ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions to new SHR images (ubifs, gps)
Problems with GPS TTFF? Do you have GTA02 A5 with capacitor on uSD interface? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems#Hardware_mod_related If not, maybe your kernel doesnt suspend SD card clock when SD is unused. Try GPS without inserted SD card. Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg.org virus?
Did you tried to contact opkg.org site owner? http://www.opkg.org/contact.html I think somebody from FSO/SHR or OpenEmbedded/Angstrom team should ask original site owner for domain transfer, if he already abandoned opkg.org. This domain could serve to our community again.[1] [1] http://lists.shr-project.org/pipermail/shr-devel/2010-June/002742.html Regards, Martix 2010/6/17 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net: Seems that the owner of the website (who is it?) is no more actively maintaining the site. This is sad because opkg.org was a good starting point to search for different applications. But for a longer time it seems that there is nothing new at all. :( Ciao, Rainer Am 17.06.2010 19:26, schrieb Jakob: there has also been another thread about it last month see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f1954 though not much happend On 6/17/10, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: well, our company virus scanner is also complaining, so it seems a real virus: The page you've been trying to access was blocked. Reason: Virus Detected! The page or file you requested is infected with the following virus: Troj/JSRedir-BD. Kind regards, Ed On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 11:32 +0200, Fox Mulder wrote: Hi, since quite some time my virus scanner (avast) complains about a virus infection (JS:Illredir-AX[Tr]) when i try to surf to www.opkg.org. Can someone confirm this or is my virus scanner a bit mad? And if there is a virus then why didn't the owner of this site remove it? :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: iPhone 4G display for Openmoko?
I think that AMOLED display is better upgrade for our FRs and small form factors AMOLEDs aren't much expensive. AMOLED displays have similar data interfaces as TFT LCDs, but perhaps we'll need to modify power supply. Regards, Martix 2010/6/8 Thomas Gstädtner tho...@gstaedtner.net: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 07:54, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi all, with the new iPhone it is for the first time better in display resolution (640x960 on 3''5 = 326 dpi) than the Freerunner (640x480 on 2''8 = 283 dpi) with higher dots per inch. Does anyone know where to get such a display? Who is making them? They say it's an IPS display. Because they are not that common, it's likely that it's a custom made from Boe Hydis (www.hydis.com). They list only a small number of available displays, but some vendors have other panels from them. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ANN] Community Updates 2010-06-01 released!
Hello, New issue of Community Updates is released: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-06-01 Thanks to following contributors: * Toams * Kukide * M4rtink * Marko Knöbl * Jama * Martix Please contribute from now to next Community Updates draft: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2010-07-01 Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qi boot into third partition
Hi, you could configure Qi to skip other partitions or use qi-bootmenu, which is practically Linux kernel with kexec booting another kernels from chosen partition. But in my opinion, qi-bootmenu concept is overkill causing unwanted boot delay. I suggest using u-boot bootloader for multiboot. This is my u-boot environment configuration capable of booting from five partitions, each with different kernel image.[1] [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Martix/U-Boot_environment Greatings, Martix 2010/6/2 Peter Fey fey.pe...@googlemail.com: Hi, I have three partitions on my sd-card and each of them contains a bootable system. How do I get qi bootloader to boot the system in the third partition? Booting first partition is just pressing and releasing power. Booting second partition is pressing power, releasing power, pressing aux, waiting for vibration, releasing aux. But what to do to boot into the third partition? Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Phone Simulation in Emulator
Hi, may I ask, why do you try to use this old abandoned stuff? If you want to develop software for Neo FreeRunner you can use SHR distribution based on Freesmartphone.org framework (FSO), which also has phonesim GSM modem simulator [1]. Otherwise there is Qt Moko, Qtopia based distribution. [1] http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=phonesim.git;a=summary Regards, Martix 2010/5/8 saravanan T saravana...@gmail.com: I have managed to get the phonesim app running, but the simulator always shows registering.I am not able to simulate calls on the qemu emulator. 1.I cannot simulate the sms or call feature using the phonesim. The phonesim gui runs, but it does not shows me the at commands sent by the emulator. 2.How can I simulate calls and at commands using the qemu emulator. 3. I have tried things like a.connecting using libgsmd-tool b.lsof | /dev/ttySAC0 to check whether the device works. but it does not show the ttySAC0 c.cu -l /dev/ttySAC0 to the device.But it just says connected. d.powering on and off the gsm modem using echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on. no use(the modem does not power up,checked using lsof|grep /dev/ttySAC0). The Images I use - kernel_wildcard=uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-r0-om-gta01.bin rootfs_wildcard=Openmoko-scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080710-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 uboot_wildcard=u-boot-gta01bv3-1.3.1+svnr4297+gitb29661fc115106454288051bc9a488351ce8-r3.bin I use pppd connection to terminal into emulator. Regards Saravanan.L ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GNU/Linux Wrist Watch
Look, what could be created with nanotechnology in near future. Nokia Morph concept: http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/research/demos/the-morph-concept video: http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/research/demos/the-morph-concept/video 2010/5/4 Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name: Does something like this exist?. If not, please, someone start making it. I really want a thick wrist watch with a big display that follows the curvature of my arm. It can provide several status indicators, like new mail, new jabber messages, time, location, etc and notify you of whatever. There's millions of awesome stuff you could do with something like this. It can have a simple interaction interface and you can pull out your freerunner when you need to do the other more advanced stuff. Please, someone start making it;). -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s t n m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@ n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 181, Issue 1
I like this idea, maybe we can attach small camera in FR's lanyard hole and connect it to USB or SPI interface. Requirements for this camera are: small good support in V4L subsystem low bandwidth - we dont want create overhead on USB 1.1 or SPI bus* availability for customers - ideally available from local resellers or from old cheap hardware inexpensive * What is max SPI transfer rate that we can use on FR? Any ideas? What camera is used in PSP mod? AFAIK Glamo has camera bus, but I think it's hard accessible for custom reworks 2010/4/29, blackfalc...@sapo.pt blackfalc...@sapo.pt: Has anyone managed to install a camera on the freerunner. I was hoping like the psp camera mod. Citando community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org: Send community mailing list submissions to community@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org You can reach the person managing the list at community-ow...@lists.openmoko.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of community digest... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fullscreen transparent keyboard
What about creating new fullscreen keyboard profile for illume? My idea is huge keyboard in landscape display mode with single line upwards for text input. 2010/4/1 Chuck Norris norris.ch...@mail.ru: I think it would be nice to have fullscreen transparent keyboard instead of small keyboard in the bottom that eats screen space. So anybody know application that fit my needs? I googled... but found nothing interesting. I've begun developing my own virtual keyboard. I've created sample gtk application - transparent window with one button that sends a to X. Will my keyboard be useful for anybody if I'll continue creating it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Need caps for bass and recamping reworks party
Hi, we are going to have FR rework party on Openmobility [1] on 24 April. We have enough caps for buzzfixs, but we need some 22uF capacitors for recamping reworks and 100uF capacitors for bass reworks. We could purchase caps from reseller, but these caps in small amounts are too expensive per item. We want to purchase several 22uF and 100uF caps from Openmoko inc. or individuals, who bought these caps in large amount, which is usually less expensive per item and could sell these caps to us. [1] http://www.openmobility.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
