Re: Ideal screen rotation
If you want to standardize something, better be prepared for uses such as a device. For some reason xrandr allows different options rathen than just 3. 0 == normal 1 == turned left 2 == normal inverted 3 == turned right Now... on my laptop, landscape == 0 or 2, but on the Free Runner landscape = 1 or 3 in my oppinion this is quite simple and contrary to carsten, i say: landscape := more broad than high portrait := more high than broad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ideal screen rotation
in my oppinion, it is not necessary, because one has all needed information already in -- man XSizeHints if a window says, for exampe 800x600, and says maybe in the aspect ratios 4:3, the rotation preference is quite clear, i think. 800x600 doesn;'t even fit. its a minimum size. it's not sane to use such a property as this doesn't tell you the original rotation - just a size. you are overloading a property here that isn't meant for this information. ther's also a window aspect ratio property - again, this isn't rotation. a wm may interpret this by scrolling the window around, not rotating. or just make the window smaller if it likes it or not (eg what e and matchbox do for example). can you give us a hint where this (rotation) property can be found ? perhaps hint on manual page ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ideal screen rotation
07.11.2009 14:44, Nicola Mfb : On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: [...] yes. see above. apps are doing it all the time. it's about the most standard way to provide information about your window, from title to minimum and maximum size to aspect ratios and more. rotation preferences are just yet more properties like this. if its a property of the window - put it as a property of the window. use the mechanism created for precisely this kind of thing. dbus is not that mechanism. [...] if an app has rotation preferences, it should set them. if it has none - it gets whatever the screen has right now - or whatever the wm chooses to implement as policy. yes - you modify apps to have them indicate their preferences. otherwise they are deemed to not care which is the case now, for example. you modify the apps - thats the right way to do it. you don't post-mortem find a way to hack things in. :) Also do you know if there's already a well-known window property for preferred rotation, or would we be inventing a new one? you'd be inventing it. i don't think so, see below I agree that window properties is the right way to implement that, but we need a way to get rotation preferences now, while that may be proposed and discussed as a standard for the future. So a couple of questions: * is it possible/safe/correct to set a window properties of a window/xclient by an external app (e.g. a launcher)? in my oppinion, it is not necessary, because one has all needed information already in -- man XSizeHints if a window says, for exampe 800x600, and says maybe in the aspect ratios 4:3, the rotation preference is quite clear, i think. the only thing, i think, we need, is a little patch in the window-manager. i don't say it is easy, but this is the only right place. In every case and going a bit ot, is anyway possibile having a generic Window ID to retrieve the .desktop file originating the owning app? I'm just guessing to retrieve the pid from window properties, retrieve the executable (like /proc/pid/exe) and back search in the .desktop file definitions. But this seems weight as the Exec in .desktop files may be a relative path, a link etc, for sure there is a better way, may you explain them? these things are workarrounds for not having to patch the window manager, i think. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
06.11.2009 08:32, Shaz : On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com mailto:fercer...@gmail.com wrote: a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com mailto:dehqa...@gmail.com writes: 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . I can't exactly follow the logic. You said google doesn't want you to use their site. In fact i doubt that's true. They don't care if you use their site or not; they implemented that restriction solely to make some US jerks happy and to not have any problems with their inappropriate legislation. Also you should note that google is not a person, it's a large corporation functioning in a complex international environment. So even if they say they're prohibiting something it doesn't mean they actually do (and in fact they can't) and/or want it. I hope someone more skilled in Islam than me can clarify this matter from a religious POV but judging on common grounds it's perfectly moral to circumvent an artificial restriction especially given that restricting anybody is not intended. In simple words Google cannot give you something directly and you have to get it through the third party because the first party wants to give it to you while an /influential/ body above google is just creating hurdles due to its own interests. So I guess there is no moral issue to get it through a third party and Google has no benefit in restricting it, infact it is going against their interest considering the matter at hand. and from the view of the license GPL, it is explicitely allowed to use and modify this code. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] [navit] dont see arrows
Hi Lists,
i have a problem in navit:
when i enter routing, i don't see the arrows, only the text until to
next crossing.
i am using:
osd enabled=yes
type=navigation_next_turn
x=320 y=30 w=160 h=60 background_color=#00cc
/
osd enabled=yes type=text
label=${navigation.item[1].length[named]}
x=320 y=90 w=160 h=40 align= background_color=#00cc
font_size=450/
output doesn't say anyting interesting:
r...@om-gta02 ~ # navit
navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'cursor' with value '1'
vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Trying to connect to localhost:default
vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Connected to gpsd fd=4 evwatch=0x98200
navit:main_real:Using '/home/root/.navit/navit.xml'
gui_internal:gui_internal_cmd_menu:x=0x122552 y=0x5de3b5
gui_internal:gui_internal_apply_config:w=480 h=575
gui_internal:gui_internal_apply_config:w=480 h=575
gui_internal:gui_internal_apply_config:w=480 h=575
gui_internal:gui_internal_cmd_position:x=0x124926 y=0x5df9c2
gui_internal:gui_internal_apply_config:w=480 h=575
oss_audio: failed to open audio device /dev/dsp
gui_internal:gui_internal_cmd_set_destination:c=1:0x124926,0x5df9c2
gui_internal:gui_internal_cmd_menu:x=0x1224e2 y=0x5def95
gui_internal:gui_internal_apply_config:w=480 h=575
any idea, how the icons for left, right, and so on are coming or not ?
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Re: [shr-u] [navit] dont see arrows
i have a problem in navit: when i enter routing, i don't see the arrows, only the text until to next crossing. solved myself by reading: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/On_Screen_Display#Icon_source_setting_for_OSD and using then: osd enabled=yes type=navigation_next_turn x=320 y=30 w=160 h=60 background_color=#00cc icon_src=$NAVIT_SHAREDIR/xpm/%s_wh_48_48.png / ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit - german localization causes rounding of GPS-position
01.11.2009 14:10, Fox Mulder : David Garabana Barro wrote: O Sábado, 31 de Outubro de 2009, Christian Rüb escribiu: Hi, I had the same problem. Also bookmarks will be saved using comma instead of dot a separator (locale settings). As a workaround I unset LC_ALL before starting navit (i.e. Exec=unset LC_ALL; navit in /usr/share/applications/navit.desktop). That way your LANG variable keeps set to de_DE.UTF-8, but locale settings are not in German... I posted this in navit ML back in July - but no response if this is intended or a bug :( At least is't sure it's a known bug/feature: http://wiki.navit- project.org/index.php/FAQ#My_position_is_reported_incorrectly I also use LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 and got the wrong position in navit but i haven't set LC_ALL. So what settings/vars should i change to get navit working in german and with correct position? :) export LC_NUMERIC=posix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb: On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:47:27 +0100 Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de said: Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: To not confuse with window changing, I would suggest the following scenario: 1. double click for launching an app why double click ? for me, i am using double click for a menu and a single click for starting the app. Because when sliding, you can have accidental clicks. I know it from the hard way. (I came up a nice usability workaround in paroli exactly for this issue. It works good.) yes i know this also from paroli. but it is solvable i think. openbox has a tunable parameter for distinguish between slide and click. in my oppinion, this is highly usable. i personally find a single click more elegant and usable than double click. the problem is not differentiating between slide and click - e and elementary have this too. it's that if you drag horizontally for example, your actual events often look something like: ++ +--+ +--+ +-+ ++-++ +--+ + + + +---+ that's exact what i told you, what openbox has: they say: if movement number_pixels then its click, if movement = pixels, its slide. in your case, one could hava a hysteresis over the time: if a single click comes shortly after a slide, it is part of slide. if you measure now the time of the tap, you have all you need for differentiating between all this three events. generally i think, its better to get the btn-release instead of btn-down. (from the view of windowmanager) and you are right: it should be done in tslib or window manager. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Black Screen of Death - Won't resume from standby
Steven ** schrieb: I've seen this several times with SHR-Unstable and now with Android. So, I'd say it's something that is common among these distro's. Is it seen on all distros? Is it the kernel? Hardware bug? Bootloader issue? Any clues how to debug this or what might cause it? I know I'm not the only one that sees it. How are others dealing with these random lock-ups? i have this too with my system gta02v6 latest shr-u. sometimes i thought, it has to do with gps, but i am not sure about. sometimes i think, problem it is changing cell while sleeping. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)
Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de wrote: that's exact what i told you, what openbox has: they say: if movement number_pixels then its click, if movement = pixels, its slide. in your case, one could hava a hysteresis over the time: if a single click comes shortly after a slide, it is part of slide. if you measure now the time of the tap, you have all you need for differentiating between all this three events. generally i think, its better to get the btn-release instead of btn-down. (from the view of windowmanager) and you are right: it should be done in tslib or window manager. In that case you just killed any application which are drawing oriented. So no Xournal, Sketchbook or any such application. why do you think so ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] Black Screen of Death - Won't resume from standby
31.10.2009 18:03, Warren Baird : I just started noticing this on an shr-u build updated in early sept. The only thing I've changed lately is installing omnewrotate. I also noticed it on an install of the shr-testing candidate, that also had omnewrotate installed. I'm going to keep omnewrotate installed for a while and see how often I get the BSOD. Then I'll uninstall or disable omnewrotate and see what happens. i have actually no omnewrotate installed, but i had some time ago. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de mailto:matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de wrote: Steven ** schrieb: I've seen this several times with SHR-Unstable and now with Android. So, I'd say it's something that is common among these distro's. Is it seen on all distros? Is it the kernel? Hardware bug? Bootloader issue? Any clues how to debug this or what might cause it? I know I'm not the only one that sees it. How are others dealing with these random lock-ups? i have this too with my system gta02v6 latest shr-u. sometimes i thought, it has to do with gps, but i am not sure about. sometimes i think, problem it is changing cell while sleeping. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schrieb: , since I did not realize the awesomeness and importance of dbus early enough... it's not too late though for us (as in the community) to fix this. when i understand you right, you think, the dbus concept is wrong ? and if so, could you please explain deeper, why you think so ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)
Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: To not confuse with window changing, I would suggest the following scenario: 1. double click for launching an app why double click ? for me, i am using double click for a menu and a single click for starting the app. Because when sliding, you can have accidental clicks. I know it from the hard way. (I came up a nice usability workaround in paroli exactly for this issue. It works good.) yes i know this also from paroli. but it is solvable i think. openbox has a tunable parameter for distinguish between slide and click. in my oppinion, this is highly usable. i personally find a single click more elegant and usable than double click. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR-U wifi problem!!
Aditya Gandhi schrieb: i use mokonet to connect On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com mailto:aditya...@gmail.com wrote: I flashed my freerunner with shr-u, did an opkg upgrade now when i try connecting to wifi it hangs, stops responding... strange. is it reproducable (with reboot) ? i have something in mind with encryption problems of mokonnect (did you mean them ?) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Insisting on metaphors that exploit the device's weaknesses (Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness)
Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: I think it would be more usable (instead of having to scroll) to have multiple pages of icons, which you switch between using the same and as for switching between apps. (i.e. each icon page acts like another app) To not confuse with window changing, I would suggest the following scenario: 1. double click for launching an app why double click ? for me, i am using double click for a menu and a single click for starting the app. 2. sliding left/sliding right would change the current page. I would also suggest different background image for each virtual desktop. sliding between desktops is very interesting for me too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Release of xminimokostatus (Part of Minimoko)
ajvogel schrieb: matzehuber wrote: Nice work, thank you. I`ve been trying to get openbox to boot on the freerunner (shr-u). How does your Xsession look like? My .Xsession is: exec /usr/bin/openbox-session but the Xsession in /etc/X11 is the standard from shr, wich tests .Xsession as replacement file for any windowmanager (ie illume) the rest is done in /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh (modified for not using this autstart-prog in /usr/lib ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] building packages
Al Johnson schrieb: On Wednesday 28 October 2009, Davide Scaini wrote: Hi guys, i would like to build some packages for shr that i feel i miss (like gnuplot or so... and maybe do some stupid interface, but not in the immediate future). Where do i start? I tried to find a source on the openmoko wiki, but with no sure answers... I'm sure you can give me a simple reference to start ;-) SHR is based at shr-project.org, and the link you want is: http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Building%20SHR Note that it may not build cleanly at the moment as the devs are concentrating on some major changes in another branch, and the build procedure will change when they pull this branch into unstable soon. SHR uses OpenEmbedded (OE) so development howtos for OE and bitbake will apply to SHR as well. The initial build will take a long time and a lot of disk space. Once that is done, building extra packages that already have bitbake recipes is usually easy: cd /wherever/you/installed/it/shr-unstable . setup-env bitbake packagename If you are using your own repository, update the repository index with: bitbake package-index ... and if do don't get this to run like me, you can try (like i sucsessfully did): download: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/toolchains/ documentation: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain happy compiling ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Release of xminimokostatus (Part of Minimoko)
ajvogel schrieb: matzehuber wrote: My .Xsession is: exec /usr/bin/openbox-session but the Xsession in /etc/X11 is the standard from shr, wich tests .Xsession as replacement file for any windowmanager (ie illume) the rest is done in /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh (modified for not using this autstart-prog in /usr/lib ) I also tried the ~/.Xsession. However I tried starting the other applications in there as well, similar to what I found on google: /usr/bin/literki /usr/bin/vala-terminal exec /usr/bin/openbox-session Maybe thats whats wrong. Ill try starting things in autostart.sh No, that's totally correct. try the following: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop Xglamo :0 -br -pn -dpi 285 -screen 480x640x16 -mouse tslib vt1 export DISPLAY=:0 openbox # no , look, if you get any error. after that, replace openbox with openbox-session (is a script, in wich you can look) if that runs, all is good, but maybe not your /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml have also a look at my files /etc/xdg/openbox/* in: http://openmoko.huber-computer.de/minimoko-diff.tbz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
one more question about nand
because i hadn't nderstood it in deep: when i would for example do an nand_erase on mtd6 and would make for example an ext3 of it, would this work or is the jffs necessary for writing into nand (mtd6) ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one more question about nand
Nikita V. Youshchenko schrieb: because i hadn't nderstood it in deep: when i would for example do an nand_erase on mtd6 and would make for example an ext3 of it, would this work or is the jffs necessary for writing into nand (mtd6) ? You may create ext3 on top of mtdblock6, however this will be slower than ext3, and cause fast nand chip wearing. slower than jffs2 yes, was clear. thank you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] window manager options
jeremy jozwik schrieb: hello list. after asking about the enlightenment keyboard crash issue someone mentioned switching the x window manager. my question is who has done this with there freerunner? how has it worked out for you? which wm did you chose? do all of them work for the freerunner? do you have any screenshots of how it looks on the moko screen? thanks for anyone who can add something here. i did it with openbox - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko for me, it's great (see the thread about grafical ...). i tried to make some things faster in getting back to the roots and in minimalism. for me, it is more usable, because you can see outdoor's , and it is reacting fast. you are invited to try it. another guy in italy does the same on debian: http://www.sneaked.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] glamo mplayer
Xavier Cremaschi schrieb: Dan Staley a écrit : I was thinking about this the other day. There are arm4 ports of myth-frontendso I wonder how well the frontend would run on the freerunner. It is designed to look good on low res screens I may try installing the front-end after I get my new myth system migrated. Has anyone else tried this? I'm bet you could run mythtranscode to change the video streams to something reasonable for the freerunner Also, if nothing else, I bet it could play music from your mythbackend pretty well... -Dan Staley I tried to watch TV from freerunner+deb...@microsd+mythtv-frontend Nothing else but a black screen :D Btw I confirm that mythtv recordings are MPEG2 TS (transport stream) Xavier. did someone already try to port vlc media player ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-u] Wifi, Keyboard and scripting
Johan Kraft schrieb: How do I run a script automatically at the end of the start up process? make a script: /etc/init.d/johankraft chmod +x /etc/init.d/johankraft cd /etc/init.d/rc5.d ln -s ../init.d/johannkraft S99johannkraft ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one to rule them all
flecktor schrieb: Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009 hmmm. not sure. :-))) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-u] Wifi, Keyboard and scripting
Johan Kraft schrieb: Hi, Thanks for the answers, they are just what I needed. I should have been more clear on the first one though. I asked: Is is possible to have it _not_ suspend as default when on battery? What I really meant was: Is is possible to have the FR _not_ suspend as default when on battery, without going through the settings menu? should be normal behavior(not to suspend while on cable), but i also get sometimes the case, that it is suspending, although on the usb cable. just replug and it won't be asleep furthermore. (happens some time, hope devs correct it in future) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: community Digest, Vol 155, Issue 34
flecktor schrieb: From: matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:18:58 +0100 Subject: Re: one to rule them all flecktor schrieb: Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009 hmmm. not sure. :-))) its beacuase im a jew isn't it? New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pc-scout/default.aspx?CBID=wlocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_pcscout:102009 no, it's because of your signature. you are posting into a linux forum. not a windows forum. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New Release of xminimokostatus (Part of Minimoko)
i leaved just a new version of xminimokostatus. Improvements: now fully using dbus: - it doen't need external programs for getting status. - signal strenth and provider is now read from dbus-signals, no active poll == http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where do I discuss these Ideas??
Aditya Gandhi schrieb: Hi guiys I'm back, I have made a Board with which connects to my pc via a USB which wirelessly controls a robot (Simple left ,right ,forward and reverse using tank mechanism for turning no steering for my robot) It uses a firmware to emulate a true usb device and the computer detects it as a custom usb class device for which only libusb is needed to work. Actually the whole Idea is not mine, took a circuit and firmware available and made it wireless. It also has a qt front-end on the pc to control the robot. The Board is based on ATmega8 , ht12e/ht12d (encoder Decoder), L298 motor driver and a 434 MHz ASK RFmodule. The BOM is under 17$ approx. Can you show some fotos ? What role does moko play in it ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New Version of Minimoko and additions
Good evening, Lists! Today i released a new Version of Minimoko with Additions. I changed the screenlocker, added the date/time on the desktop (vertical!), added graphical status bars for battery and net-strength. There are now three different Packages for not having to download the full package again. About one thing, i am very very proud: i got xtrlock to run. Xtrlock is a superlean, superfast screensaver which changes only the cursor to a locker symbol and grabs input away, so that you see the desktop (or maybe tangogps or navit ) Have a lot of fun ! ( - thats stolen :-)) do you know where ? ) But give me feedback (even when it is negative!) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
Thomas Zimmermann schrieb:
Send me all information for the recipe, or better a recipe and the needed
patch.
Here we go,
wenn noch was nicht stimmt, bitte Rückmeldung an mich,
werd's korrigieren und auf neuere Versionen schauen.
Viele Grüße,
Matze
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/* matz changed */
wattrib.width = 480;
wattrib.height = 640;
/* end matz changed */
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SIZE_SET(self-base_size, -1, -1);
SIZE_SET(self-min_size, 0, 0);
SIZE_SET(self-max_size, G_MAXINT, G_MAXINT);
---
SIZE_SET(self-base_size, 480, 590);
SIZE_SET(self-min_size, 480, 550);
SIZE_SET(self-max_size, 480, 640);
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SIZE_SET(self-min_size, size.min_width, size.min_height);
---
/* SIZE_SET(self-min_size, size.min_width, size.min_height); */
SIZE_SET(self-min_size, 480, 550);
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SIZE_SET(self-max_size, size.max_width, size.max_height);
---
/*SIZE_SET(self-max_size, size.max_width, size.max_height); */
SIZE_SET(self-max_size, 480, 640);
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SIZE_SET(self-base_size, size.base_width, size.base_height);
---
/*SIZE_SET(self-base_size, size.base_width, size.base_height); */
SIZE_SET(self-base_size, 480, 550);
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hints.min_width = hints.max_width = w;
hints.min_height = hints.max_height = h;
---
hints.min_width = hints.max_width = w = 480;
hints.min_height = hints.max_height = h = 640;
361,362c361,362
req.width = w;
req.height = h;
---
req.width = w = 480;
req.height = h = 640;
DESCRIPTION = idesk
AUTHOR = Anibal Avelar [FixXxer Home] (avelar gmail.com): New Upstream.
Porting to Imlib2 and new features (like background, menu, tooltip, etc). Tim
Finley (timmfin timmfin.net): Old upstream retired now.
PN = idesk
DEPENDS = imlib2 libimlib2-filters libimlib2-loaders
PROVIDES += windowmanager/desktoplauncher
HOMEPAGE_URL=http://idesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page;
SRC_URI =
http://sourceforge.net/projects/idesk/files/idesk/idesk-0.7.5/idesk-0.7.5.tar.bz2/download;
S = ${WORKDIR}/idesk-0.7.5
DESCRIPTION = openbox configuration program
AUTHOR = icculus.org/openbox
PN = obconf
DEPENDS = openbox
PROVIDES += windowmanager/openbox/configuration
HOMEPAGE_URL=http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/ObConf:About;
SRC_URI = http://icculus.org/openbox/obconf/obconf-2.0.3.tar.gz;
S = ${WORKDIR}/obconf-2.0.3
DESCRIPTION = openbox minimalistic window manager
AUTHOR = icculus.org
PN = openbox
DEPENDS =
PROVIDES += windowmanager/openbox
HOMEPAGE_URL=http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Main_Page;
SRC_URI = http://icculus.org/openbox/releases/openbox-3.4.7.tar.gz;
S = ${WORKDIR}/openbox-3.4.7.2
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Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
Niels Heyvaert schrieb: 4ae03f56.1030...@wollishausen.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Herr Huber=2C =20 K=F6nnen Sie auf English antworten=2C bitte? =20 Vielleicht sind anderen auch interessiert. =20 Vielen Dank=2C =20 Niels =3B-) -- Microsoft gives you windows=2C Linux gives you the whole house. Date: Thu=2C 22 Oct 2009 13:17:42 +0200 From: matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk Thomas Zimmermann schrieb: Send me all information for the recipe=2C or better a recipe and the need= ed patch. Here we go=2C wenn noch was nicht stimmt=2C bitte R=FCckmeldung an mich=2C werd's korrigieren und auf neuere Versionen schauen. Viele Gr=FC=DFe=2C I am Sorry for that, i wanted to write only Thomas Zimmermann, because there were simply this files in the mail, and did use the reply - knob, insted of explicitly giving his address and got the list. I apologize. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
arne anka schrieb: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:30:30 +0200, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote: 4ae03f56.1030...@wollishausen.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Herr Huber=2C =20 K=F6nnen Sie auf English antworten=2C bitte? =20 Vielleicht sind anderen auch interessiert. =20 Vielen Dank=2C =20 Niels =3B-) Help me, please, its thunderbird 2.0.23 i often click on reply, but there is a reply-to header to the list. and in other cases there is the list as cc: in it, there is needed to click reply all ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
Ali schrieb: very sweet, I love the unique look. One thing that really bugged me; ever since I got my very first cell phone I stopped wearing watches, opting to grab my phone and look at the time there instead. Comming out of suspend, unlocking, hitting shr-settings and date/time takes way too long just to see the time. Screen space at the bottom is taken so two suggestions 1. BATT and NET could be replaced with small icons and that would make room for the time on the right- but the bottom may still look crampped 2. Maybe have the time go down vertically on the right side of the screen. Ghetto diagram for clarity: (icon) (icon) (icon) (icon) (icon) H (icon) H (icon) : M BATT: x% - NET: x%M oh, and wtf is with the messaging app having an icon that says news? Seems more suited for an rss aggregator. Great otherwise, illume never did it for me- maybe it was that iphoney look. have a look into the near future (it is in testing phase here): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User_talk:Matzehuber ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
ajvogel schrieb: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I would very much like to see these in the SHR feeds for easy installation.. Any SHR maintainers around..? I agree, would really like to see openbox in the feeds. i do not have the smallest idea of how this is done, so i am sorry, i would need to have someone to take me by hand. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
Petr Vanek schrieb: I agree, would really like to see openbox in the feeds. i do not have the smallest idea of how this is done, so i am sorry, i would need to have someone to take me by hand. here is what i found: http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Howto%20get%20my%20application%20in%20the%20SHR%20feed Petr Thanks for that link. i tried that before without success. sorry, too complicate for me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
ajvogel schrieb: matzehuber wrote: here is what i found: http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Howto%20get%20my%20application%20in%20the%20SHR%20feed As far as I understand you have to setup the SHR environment by downloading the Makefile and running make setup. Which downloads and sets up the environment. Unfortunately, my bandwidth is limited. Does anyone know how much bandwidth is used during setup? (10s, 100s MB?) If its not too much Ill try and setup the environment and see if I can get openbox ready for the feeds. Regards, Adolph if you have at least 3 MB lke me, it is ok for downloading. the prob i had, was to compile entirely without error messages. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
Thomas Zimmermann schrieb: Am Mittwoch 21 Oktober 2009 22:35:38 schrieb ajvogel: Thomas Zimmermann wrote: To build the whole feed you have to download about 6 GByte of Sourcepackages. Just for 1 package it won't be that much, perhaps about 2 GByte. And during build it will connect several times to some git servers. Unfortunately thats more than I have available. :( and that rules me out for trying to get openbox/idesk in the feeds. Looks like our only hope is, that one of the shr-devs that already have an environment setup help with the compilation and packaging. Anybody? I can help you, no problem with that. But i don't know either openbox nor idesk, so all patches must be provided by you. And testing also has to be done by you. very good, thank you. there is only one patch for openbox, idesk runs out of the box. how do we now ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Need Help in Dbus
(Reposting from devel@, hoping that here is maybe one)
Hello List,
for my minimoko, i want to implement the battery status and network
status and therefore i want to listen on the dbus.
for not consuming too much resources, i'd like to do this in pure c
and with the lowlevel routines.
i found an example here: http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus/dbus-example.c
in this example is a section receive, which i want to use.
now i tried :
// add a rule for which messages we want to see
dbus_bus_add_match(conn,
type='Event',interface='org.freesmartphone.Device.Input', err); //
see signals from the given interface
dbus_connection_flush(conn);
if (dbus_error_is_set(err)) {
fprintf(stderr, Match Error (%s)\n, err.message);
exit(1);
}
printf(Match rule sent\n);
but i only got:
Match rule sent
Got Signal with value :1.6
Got Signal with value org.freesmartphone.ousaged
I am trying any other combination of bus and interface / path, always
the same.
when i try another call, i get
r...@om-gta02 ~ # dbus-test
Listening for signals
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup()
without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup()
without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged
process 2609: type array 97 not a basic type
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
Aborted
(this was a call to the dbus itself for listing its busses),
works with mdbus well, but not in my program.
What am i doing wrong ?
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Desktop based on openbox and idesk
Dear List, today i released a minimalistic, simplified Desktop Handler based on openbox and idesk on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko Try it if you want and give me feedback! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
ajvogel schrieb: matzehuber wrote: Dear List, today i released a minimalistic, simplified Desktop Handler based on openbox and idesk on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Minimoko Try it if you want and give me feedback! great, its nice to have an alternatives to illume. Ideally, openbox can be packaged and placed in the SHR feeds. So those of us who want to use it can just install it. ... and idesk maybe too. Openbox needed to be patched a little bit. (window size-handling for the om-apps) in openbox/client.c This patch is a little bit hacky and maybe not fully correct. So it would be good, if one of the X11-Specialists had a look on it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Desktop based on openbox and idesk
Michal Brzozowski schrieb: How do you switch between applications? with /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml: context name=Titlebar mousebind button=Left action=Drag action name=Lower/ action name=NextWindow dialogno/dialog raiseyes/raise barno/bar panelsyes/panels desktopyes/desktop linearyes/linear /action /mousebind ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] tar and tbz
Ali schrieb: Hey list, I'm on qtmoko trying to extract minimoko to the usd card. I scp'd the tbz file to the card and attempt to tar xvjf minimoko.tbz and get: neo:/media/mmcblk0p2# tar xvjf minimoko.tbz tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors same error even if i put the full file location. anyone having the same issue on regular debian? I got around it by extracting on my box and scp'ing but that's very undesirable. Is it just an outdated version of tar? Or am I using the wrong flags? It is a tbz, what means it is .tar.bz2 the command with the real tar is: tar xvfj minimoko.tbz or bzip2 -d minimoko.tbz | tar xvf - ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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As is see, the prob with bzip is solved. :-) (i was wrong, because of too short reading your mail) Ali schrieb: 1. BATT and NET could be replaced with small icons and that would make room for the time on the right- but the bottom may still look crampped I will try to implement it. 2. Maybe have the time go down vertically on the right side of the screen. Ghetto diagram for clarity: (icon) (icon) (icon) (icon) (icon) H (icon) H (icon) : M BATT: x% - NET: x%M oh, and wtf is with the messaging app having an icon that says news? Seems more suited for an rss aggregator. Great otherwise, illume never did it for me- maybe it was that iphoney look. God point, i'll try it out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking with Ubuntu 9.04
Tony Berth schrieb:
Bingo. Thanks A LOT!
Is it possible to update the Wiki with that one. I think this will be
a great help to the whole community
if you would tell me wich of / or both tricks did it on your system ?
but i had to add this two lines to my /etc/ufw/ufw.conf
ufw allow from 192.168.0.202
ufw allow to 192.168.0.202
another trial with iptables needs to load some modules too:
#!/bin/sh
MOKO=192.168.0.202
echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE
iptables -I FORWARD -j ACCEPT -d ${MOKO}/32
iptables -I FORWARD -j ACCEPT -s ${MOKO}/32
iptables -I POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s ${MOKO}/32
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Re: USB networking with Ubuntu 9.04
Tony Berth schrieb:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Frederik Sdun
frederik.s...@googlemail.com mailto:frederik.s...@googlemail.com
wrote:
* Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com
mailto:tonybe...@googlemail.com [06.10.2009 18:06]:
followed as described in:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
-
Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope -- udev
One can see /etc/udev/rules.d that a device plugged in on USB
will be
called eth1. Go to system-Administration-Network and add
the parameters
for eth1 static ip, address 192.168.0.200 mask
255.255.255.192 add your
default gateway. Thats is all.
Tested with Qi bootloader aka official MAC address of the
Freerunner : on
Android Koolu beta 7
Carig Philippines --frank 14:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
--
and eth1 gets assigned the proper IP address. I can connect
to Neo but
from there I don't have any connection to the 'outside'.
Please notice
that resolv.conf has the correct Opendns IPs!
Actually I should face the same problem as described in:
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3119750
but the postings there weren't of any help :(
Thanks
Tony
I used the config you can find in [0] and it works.
[0]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others
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but this one 'ties' it in usb0 although it connects as eth1! How can
this work?
I also used the following entries in /etc/network/interfaces:
#freerunner3
allow-hotplug eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.0.200
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
http://192.168.0.0/24
up echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
http://192.168.0.0/24
and didn't work! Openmoko wasn't able to get an IP address at all!
get ip adress ? dont understand this.
but i had to add this two lines to my /etc/ufw/ufw.conf
ufw allow from 192.168.0.202
ufw allow to 192.168.0.202
another trial with iptables needs to load some modules too:
#!/bin/sh
MOKO=192.168.0.202
echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE
iptables -I FORWARD -j ACCEPT -d ${MOKO}/32
iptables -I FORWARD -j ACCEPT -s ${MOKO}/32
iptables -I POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s ${MOKO}/32
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86459 Wollishausen
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Re: Qi doesn't read my /boot/append-GTA02
Al Johnson schrieb: On Thursday 01 October 2009, Vasco Névoa wrote: I'm booting from Flash, not SDcard. Shouldn't the /boot/append file work the same? No. Qi can read fat and ext2/3 but not jffs2, reiserfs and so on. Since flash uses jffs2 Qi can't read the /boot/append file. just an idea: maybe it could read the u-boot-env partition for parameters ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some improovements for your OaUa
Marcel schrieb: Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2009, 13:02 +0200 schrieb Matthias Huber: Hi Marcel, here are some improovements for the Eieruhr (bavarian: OaUa): OaUa: Almost guessed that seeing the subject and already thought about renaming Eieruhr... I'd like to see an american pronounce OaUa :D - using knob symbols from stock icons Oh, nice! With stock icons it's impossible to change font/icon size, isn't it? (My try using modify_font() didn't work.) it was before impossible to set the font size. I am searching further for the solution, but until yet, i didn't find any. - killing mplayer I didn't even have the idea to use mplayer's stdin through communicate()... :) :- New version is up at http://d-a300.selfip.net/files/eieruhr-0.3.tar.gz Have you tried installing on the Neo using setup.py and got the same error? Maybe I should send the bb recipe to the SHR guys and see if it builds for them, if we get the ready-made package from the feed it's no problem anymore... r...@om-gta02 /tmp/eieruhr-0.3 # python ./setup.py install running install error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/include/python2.6/pyconfig.h (No such file or directory) Do you want to represent yourself on the wiki in the Community Updates for 30.9. ? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-30 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Marcel schrieb: Oh, nice! With stock icons it's impossible to change font/icon size, isn't it? (My try using modify_font() didn't work.) one can do: self.stop = gtk.Button(gtk-stop) self.stop.get_child().modify_font(pango.FontDescription(Sans 30)) ^^^ but one cannot use the stock buttons then. # self.stop.set_use_stock(True) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Countdown app using PyGTK
Marcel schrieb: [1]: error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/include/python2.6/pyconfig.h (No such file or directory) when do you get this error ? when doing $ python setup.py install in the program's directory on the Neo to install it. i don't have such a headerfile in my python-dir. Me neither, and I noticed it's included in Debian's normal python package, but doesn't exist in Ångstrom (base of all our opkg-using distros) as it seems... i have meanwhile ubuntu 9.04 and i have this file in /usr/include/python2.6/pyconfig.h ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Countdown app using PyGTK
Marcel schrieb: included in the tarball. Don't really know yet which one I like more, mine fits better into the colorful SHR look I think... i like mine more, because i am remebering old times with my grand ma. :-) and .. btw i dont like black knobs with little white letters in the sun outside. although it seems that most of moko-users are glad with it. or isn't this the reason for you to ask the community for help, that the letters are to little ? Since it doesn't want to install using distutils on my Neo [1] and I have no idea how to fix that, you are advised to do a dry run (-n) first to see what would happen, but encouraged to try it. :) A bb recipe at least exists, too, but I'm still looking for some advice with my install problem; de...@l.om.org wasn't helpful yet... i don't understand anything about bb recipes and such things, i always use ipkg-utils for packaging. [1]: error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/include/python2.6/pyconfig.h (No such file or directory) when do you get this error ? i don't have such a headerfile in my python-dir. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wakeuptime, was Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?
Paul Fertser schrieb: Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de writes: and i suggest to change qi, because, as you said above, it is: 1. easily chanchable upon runtime for the developer 2. faster for the normal daily use 3. qi can with power-key hold give you a loglevel of 8. What messages do you see with loglevel=4 that shouldn't be there? For me normal suspend/resume doesn't add anything to console. first: i cant see anything without a magnifying glass :-) that's not the point although there are some messages. and if you thing logically, you will give me right. i cannot tell exact, but i saw this messages. test it yourself. and speed is also bootup-speed, (althoug this wasn't the trhread) where i see a lot of for an non-kernel-developer sensless messages, wich nobody cant read without a magnifying glass. for i made /var/log/messages permanent, there is/was writing into the flash which seemed to slow down things. this slows of course also the process down (also the process of getting asleep and waking up) normally one must think on other things, like the extensive logging of frameworkd and ophonekit. for me, who is/must/wants use this phone as daily phone totally senseless. sorry for my maybe provicative answers. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko - howto migrate from one partition to another?
Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb: Hi, On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca mailto:monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Just be careful to only backup the partition's own files. I.e. use the --one-file-system argument. Otherwise you might start copying /sys, /proc and that will get you into trouble. I mounted /dev/mmcblk0p3 on /mnt, and did 'cp -Rpvx / /mnt' Now I just need to find out how to boot from p3 with Qi, I thought That presding the AUX button while the LED was red should do it, but so far that doesn't want to work for me. i make my backups always with rsync on the mmc. but with the real rsync, not with busybox. here is my script: #!/bin/sh -x cd / rsync -avulH --del --exclude=/home/root/Maps --exclude=boot/* --exclude=Maps/* --exclude=sicherung/* --exclude=media/* --exclude=sys/* --exclude=dev/* --exclude=proc/* * /media/disk/shr/ 2/media/disk/sicherung/fehler.txt echo errors are in /media/disk/sicherung/fehler.txt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] wakeuptime, was Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?
Warren Baird schrieb: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de mailto:matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de wrote: Hmmm it takes three rings until i can get the call (heear a ring and get a GREEN Button. Don't think, this is fast. Which distro? I used to have this problem with OM2008 - I missed a bunch of calls because of it and then switched to QTEI. I've since tried OM2009 and am now using SHR-U, without this issue. If I call myself from a land line using SHR-U, I see the screen turn on at exactly the same time as I hear the ring on the land-line, and the FR starts to ring before the first ring on the landline finishes. I don't have a stop-watch, but it certainly seems fast enough. Distro is shr-u, with all updates of yesterday ~17:00h GMT with my GREEN BUTTONS and my own Ringtone. What firmware do you use ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] wakeuptime, was Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?
Today i did another test, because i patched qi with ghex for giving the kernel loglevel=0, and my result today (look at the bottom for version) was: ONE Ring until i get shr-todays slider to see. That is ok for me. On that there is the question: Why is qi delivered on the repo with debuglevel 4 ? Warren Baird schrieb: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de mailto:matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de wrote: Hmmm it takes three rings until i can get the call (heear a ring and get a GREEN Button. Don't think, this is fast. Which distro? I used to have this problem with OM2008 - I missed a bunch of calls because of it and then switched to QTEI. I've since tried OM2009 and am now using SHR-U, without this issue. If I call myself from a land line using SHR-U, I see the screen turn on at exactly the same time as I hear the ring on the land-line, and the FR starts to ring before the first ring on the landline finishes. I don't have a stop-watch, but it certainly seems fast enough. Distro is shr-u, with all updates of yesterday ~17:00h GMT with my GREEN BUTTONS and my own Ringtone. What firmware do you use ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wakeuptime, was Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?
Al Johnson schrieb: On Friday 11 September 2009, Matthias Huber wrote: Today i did another test, because i patched qi with ghex for giving the kernel loglevel=0, and my result today (look at the bottom for version) was: ONE Ring until i get shr-todays slider to see. That is ok for me. On that there is the question: Why is qi delivered on the repo with debuglevel 4 ? Because it's a fair tradeoff between speed and getting some debug information if something goes wrong? If booting from SD the loglevel is easily changed anyway. It would be just as easy for NAND if Qi could read jffs2. You can also change the loglevel at runtime as suggested in the shr tweak/customisation guides. This will be just as effective for resume, but not as fast for boot. i stated the question as advicatus diaboli for the normal user, which wants to use the phone as daily. and i suggest to change qi, because, as you said above, it is: 1. easily chanchable upon runtime for the developer 2. faster for the normal daily use 3. qi can with power-key hold give you a loglevel of 8. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Device Orientation API
Patryk Benderz schrieb: [cut] Basically, it's sending you a string whenever the orientation changes. Valid substrings contain portrait, landscape, faceup, facedown. IMHO using integers where (x,y,z) are -1,0 or 1, would be better idea. This way you could make mathematical operations on this. Or use a conditions like: (x=1,y=0,z0). There is already some info about axis on wiki somewhere ... and for putting this together, one could make macro(tests) ot the integers: portrait := (x,y,z) =~ (90,0,270) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.6.31 is out, where is my ultimate kernel?
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak schrieb: On 9/10/09, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: * improved resume time Improved resume time? It's about one second here from clicking power button to full resume (with screen redraw and userland actions). I don't think less is really needed :P Hmmm it takes three rings until i can get the call (heear a ring and get a GREEN Button. Don't think, this is fast. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where can I buy miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapte rs in Canada?
What your friend ment to say is: you need a usb-mini (Male:=Standard) to Usb-Type A(this is the big flat one)-FEMALE (same as in your usb-hub) Adapter. So you can plug any Device with its standard cable. There are other solutions, for example a USB-Mini to USB-Type B and an Hub with that Tyoe B. Brolin Empey schrieb: Hello list, A few days ago, I was chatting with DocScrutinizer in #openmoko on FreeNode about using a USB → Ethernet adapter to connect my FreeRunner directly to my Ethernet LAN. DocScrutinizer told me I need a miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapter or a cable like this: http://www.conrad.de/goto.php?artikel=971535 Where can I buy such an adapter or cable in Canada? I live in the Lower Mainland of British Columbia, Canada. I already checked some local computer stores (NCIX, A-Power) and a distributor (ACP Marketing), but none appear to have what I need. I know there is at least one other list member who lives in the Lower Mainland, and there must be other Canadian members even if they live elsewhere in Canada. -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus
jeremy jozwik schrieb: The databases for the calls in the newer versions is now in /etc/freesmartphone/opim/sqlite-calls.db that file however does exist. illegible in nano, but there it is a sqlite3 - database. you can install sqlite3 and show in it: # sqlite3 /etc/freesmartphone/opim/sqlite-calls.db .s select * from calls; select * from call_values; .quit @developers: By the way: where is the view gone whicht spreaded over both tables ? anyway: if you have there some values, its ok from the database. might i ask what version you are running and if it has a working phonelog. im wondering if its my freerunner, 20090808, or what that is the issue. [also i would like to limit the amount of re-flashing for obvious reasons.] i did same as you without any hacks and modifications. did you look into your settings - other - domains - calls ? -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes
Greg Bonett schrieb: Hi there, I just installed SHR unstable and I'm impressed at how usable and responsive it is. However, while I was performing a opkg operation I ran out of memory so I tried to add a swap file. When following the instructions at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#SwapSpace I get the error: swapon: /swapfile: Invalid argument and dmesg shows: swapon: swapfile has holes I've tried files on the sd card and also on the internal memory. Any suggestions? i could imagine, it must be at one extent, so you should try two things: * format your sdcard and make the swapfile on the newly created fs. *** but if you are formatting the card, you can make a real swap _partition_ also. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] swapon: swapfile has holes
Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de writes: *** but if you are formatting the card, you can make a real swap _partition_ also. What are the advantages of a swap partition? The only one I can think of is that it can be used for software suspend. afaik, it is much faster than file. -- MatzeHuber ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus
jeremy jozwik schrieb: hello list. im interested in getting placed / missed / received call information directly from dbus without the use of phonelog. pyphonelog has been busted on my phone for some time now. long ago i ran opkg upgrade and lost the use of phonelog. new images of shr dont seem to work for me either. so im interested to see if i can get around this problem rather then wait for a working version. there was an issue with phonelog (or its db): did you try to delete /var/db/*.db and restart ? -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] getting missed call information out of dbus
jeremy jozwik schrieb: do you have a file name? or is it *.db? i ask because that folder is empty. ok, i assume that you are using shr unstable. for that i can say this: it was /var/db/phonelog.db, but if you do'nt have this, it is probably another problem. The databases for the calls in the newer versions is now in /etc/freesmartphone/opim/sqlite-calls.db did you already start your pyphonelog on the commandline? /usr/bin/phonelog ... maybe the output can say something about the error. or if you arent able to do this, you have a log in /tmp/x.log and one more time :-)) the suggestion to upgrade: # opkg update ; opkg upgrade -- Matzehuber ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TCP connection over GPRS between Openmoko and Notebook
Michael Tansella schrieb: Hi, How can I establish a communication connection (I want to transfer Text) from A: Freerunner GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that sends for example coordinates to B: Linux Notebook GPRS Vodafone Germany Connection (IP behind NAT) Qt program that processes the received Data immediately I want to implement this in a QT4 program and thought about TCP but how can I get a global accessable IP address. Does there already exist any tool that can do this? Do I have to use SSH, VPN, HTTP, FTP, ...? Unfortunately I don't know much about networking stuff such as NAT etc. , can you just give me a hint, how to i recommend you to use openvpn. i am doing this on my fr with no problems at all. -- Matzehuber ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Off Topic] Prepaid SIM Suggestions
Cameron Frazier schrieb: Evening all, I'll be heading to the EU for a little over 2 weeks in a week or so, and am in need of some advice. I'd like to use my FR over there, and as such need a prepaid SIM. As for requirements; 1) I'd like to use the same card in Germany (Munich), France (Toulouse), and Switzerland (Lausanne) 2) I need to be able to make/receive international calls/SMS 3) I'd like to try out some of this newfangled GPRS stuff (N.America sucks this for reasonable plans). I'll be arriving in Munich so that'll be where I'll pick up the SIM. Since a good number of the community are from those areas, I'd like to ask your advice on a carrier/options for all this. Any suggestions? Kind regards, The cheapest gprs prepaid in germany is simyo: www.simyo.de 9 c't / MB -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer
wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli? good idea. please have a look at [1] where redesign of shr phone apps is being drafted. feel free to contribute there, petr [1]http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/phoneui ... and for the moment, as i think, it should be only the edje-file, can someone help me to make the button green and the release button red ? -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak schrieb:
On 9/1/09, Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de wrote:
wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli?
... and for the moment, as i think, it should be only the edje-file, can
someone help me to make the button green and the release button red ?
In edc files, in button definitions (it's easy to find them out):
Green:
color: 0 255 0 255;
Red:
color: 255 0 0 255;
But probably that won't look so good.
Normally yes, but this is a swallow, and it doesn't seem to take the
color attribute.
It tried:
part {
name, button_call;
type, SWALLOW;
mouse_events, 1;
description {
state, default 0.0;
color, 0 255 0 255;
rel1 {
relative, 0.00 0.85;
}
rel2 {
relative, 0.33 1;
}
}
}
someone of the e-experts ?
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Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer
this code snippets work and the buttons are red and green.
part {
name, button_exit;
type, RECT;
mouse_events, 1;
description {
color: 255 0 0 255;
state, default 0.0;
rel1 {
relative, 0.66 0.85;
}
rel2 {
relative, 1.00 1;
}
}
}
part {
name, button_call;
type, RECT;
mouse_events, 1;
description {
state, default 0.0;
color, 0 255 0 255;
rel1 {
relative, 0.00 0.85;
}
rel2 {
relative, 0.33 1;
}
}
}
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Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer
Matthias Huber schrieb:
this code snippets work and the buttons are red and green.
But now it doesn't dial :o
part {
name, button_exit;
type, RECT;
mouse_events, 1;
description {
color: 255 0 0 255;
state, default 0.0;
rel1 {
relative, 0.66 0.85;
}
rel2 {
relative, 1.00 1;
}
}
}
part {
name, button_call;
type, RECT;
mouse_events, 1;
description {
state, default 0.0;
color, 0 255 0 255;
rel1 {
relative, 0.00 0.85;
}
rel2 {
relative, 0.33 1;
}
}
}
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Matthias Huber
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86459 Wollishausen
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Re: Bricked FR!! D:
The Digital Pioneer schrieb: Nope, screen is totally useless at all times, and as near as I can tell the computer works just fine. Just no screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community init 6 ? -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer
Imagine, you are standing outside in the sun and someone calls you: you hurry for getting the call and ... tap on Reject-button because you didn't see it right (in the sun) wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli? -- Matzehuber ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] rfd: some ideas for improving dialer
Petr Vanek schrieb: Imagine, you are standing outside in the sun and someone calls you: you hurry for getting the call and ... tap on Reject-button because you didn't see it right (in the sun) wouldn't it be better to use red and green Buttons like in paroli? good idea. please have a look at [1] where redesign of shr phone apps is being drafted. feel free to contribute there, petr [1]http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/phoneui Calling3 in http://www.alasal.be/openmoko/shr2/dialer/r1/ is great for me. -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om 2009, NWA, keyboard?
Carsten Gerlach schrieb: Hello, Am Mittwoch 26. August 2009 23:58:24 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: click the top bar and then click the keyboard on top right and there you go, easy as what :) Is it possible to start the keyboard with the layout terminal automatically when I start the terminal? cd /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/ mv Default.kbd Alpha.kbd ln -s Terminal.kbd Default.kbd -- Matzehuber ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009
rakshat hooja schrieb: SHR-U from 2009/08/08 is more stable than Om2009t5 on my FreeRunner. I used to have to reboot about once per day, but now days pass without a reboot quite easily! Rui _ Some days SHR-U is very stable and sometimes it is not as all the latest bleeding stuff comes in. Some of us can fix the SHR-U latest by downgrading+upgrading+force overwriting some stuff etc but for a newcommer to SHR testing build that has atleast gsm+gps working on 2nd boot is required so that he/she atleast gets a chance to experience SHR instead of thinking its a non-functional distribution. For me following distris where unusable (as daily phone, which i need): * paroli * hackable * android (missing tangogps) * shr-testing (delay between answer and can speek) the only _functional_ distri for me is: shr unstable (with all opkg upgrades) Matzehuber -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Matthias Huber Kohlstattstr. 14 86459 Wollishausen Tel: 08238-7998 LPI000181125 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
