[QTMoko] What is the best way of moving my home directory to the SD Card?
I've just had the root directory on my FAT32 formatted SD card p1 get hosed (Stale NFS file handle) so I ask the very simple question: what is the best/most reliable way of moving my home directory from NAND to the SDCard? I have the whole of p1 available for my home directory so I could mount it as /home/root, I could exit the /etc/ passwd file or I could symlink it. Ideally I'd love to have things like this in a How to page on the QTMoko wiki. Would anyone complain if I started such a page? TIA Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hi
I would recommend that you choose which ever distro keeps their how to make your Neo work as a phone for most of the time using this distro as well as running other standard services reliably wiki page up to date and by up to date I mean referring to which ever is the most useable bootloader, build, kernel currently available even if that is the daily build. It should also assume that the reader is a complete novice and is neither a hacker or a linux sysadmin. Seeing that none of the distro's really do (seeing that they are produced by hackers who are mostly hacking for their own enjoyment it's not really surprising and you can't really blame the teams) you've got a wide choice. This remains one of the main requirements of Openmoko in my opinion and could be a great way for the non-core-hackers to contribute. Roland -- QURU Ltd, London On 8/22/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Hi Soumik! Depends on what you want to work on, but if you have a freerunner, my suggestion is to install om2009 unstable there (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 ) and contribute to Paroli for a start (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli ). That'd be very beneficial for many and you'd get easily in in the develpment for Freerunner. You're welcome to join #paroli irc-channel for discussion. (and I know, others will recommend you other distros like SHR or Debian - but I was first :) r On 22 Aug 2009, at 11:10, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote Few arguments for SHR over Om2009: more people working on it, develops faster, most of decisions are done by community, nice way for sending and maintain patches, reachable people maintaining distro (so your app can even be added to default image), perspectives for future. IRC channel: #openmoko-cdevel Decision is up to you, but I prefer SHR. Fast, stable, usable - as Om2009, but it has also more things behind scenes which Om2009 don't have ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How does well does this community work?
I am working with the 40 Fires Foundation [http://www.40fires.org] to try to build a framework for the development of open source hardware. You might have heard that the first project is the hyrban car - a car powered by a hydrogen fuel cell - the prototype of which was revealed by Riversimple [http://www.riversimple.com] earlier in the summer and whose designs have been licensed to 40 Fires. We have had input from Mozilla and other software foundations but of course the design of something like a car is a little harder to manage as an open source project. Openmoko.org is frequently raised in discussions and has lead me to push forward a wiki, mailing list and nabble based forums. Before we commit to this, how well do you think that this technology serves the Openmoko community? If you had the chance to build a community for the development of the Openmoko (hardware as well as software) what would you do and why? TIA Roland -- QURU, London ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] emacs package
On 6 May 2009, at 16:04, Stefan Monnier wrote: It's been asked before but I can't find any references to a package for Emacs. Does such exist? If not, how can I get Emacs running - If you run Debian on your FR, then you can just aptitude install emacs. Even easier - from within your terminal app run: opkg install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/emacs_22.3-r0_armv 4t.ipk It takes a bit of time to install but when its there, there is no problem at all - works as it should Now to install fso-el: http://wiki.wjsullivan.net/collaboration.cgi/FsoEl Roland -- Quru Ltd, London ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] emacs package
Following Łukasz's lead I've found this: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/emacs_22.3-r0_armv4t.ipk Will let you know if it works... Roland -- QURU Ltd, London ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QtEI] Translation suggestion
Hello, in all the applications I write with Qt I'm using the tr() function. The advantage is, that it is much shorter to write (and therefore IMHO to read) and that QtLinguist is automatically showing the right context. QtLinguist organizes the strings that are translatable by context - typically the class names. When using tr() this is set automatically, when using qApp-translate() you have to (but also: can) set the context yourself. Another consideration is that tr() is only available in classes derived from QObject - but since normally the strings you want to translate are generated in Gui-classes this is normally the case. To sum up: Personally I prefer tr(), but it doesn't really matter what you use. Roland -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community- boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Fabio Locati Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:41 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: [QtEI] Translation suggestion On the doc.trolltech.com, there isn't written that QApp-translate is better than tr, if I read correctly. http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qobject.html#tr http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qcoreapplication.html#translate Then is better leaving the tr() or switching to QApp-translate()? On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:14:05 +0200 Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked around and it seems that QtEI should be translated with Qt Linguistic. Is this the best tool? I don't know the tool, but I do believe there's much work to be done here: many classes still use tr while I believe every class should use qApp-translate for translations. Thoughts, suggestions? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QtEI] Translation suggestion
Another consideration is that tr() is only available in classes derived from QObject - but since normally the strings you want to translate are generated in Gui-classes this is normally the case. iirc tr is a static method of QObject, ie QObject::tr() should be possible regardless of inheritance. Sorry. Of course you are correct. The disadvantage of using QObject::tr() compared to qApp-translate() (or to be more exact the static function QCoreApplication::translate()) is that you can not specify a context and that it is not set automatically if the class is not inheriting QObject. Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QtEI] Translation suggestion
The disadvantage of using QObject::tr() compared to qApp-translate() eh? from what you wrote earlier i got the impression it is exactly the other way round. You're right, kind of confusing. This is how I understood how it works: When using QCoreApplication::translate() you have to provide the context yourself. When using QObject::tr(), the context is generated automatically by Qt. From the documentation of Qt: All QObject subclasses using the Q_OBJECT macro automatically have a reimplementation of this function with the subclass name as context. Therefore I have to correct my earlier explanation a little bit: Inheriting from QObject is not sufficient, you must also supply the Q_OBJECT macro. When the macro is used in a class, Qt's moc (Meta-Object Compiler) generates more information for the class - including the translation-context. You can find more information about the meta-object system under http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/metaobjects.html. I hope this didn't create more confusion... Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard
Hello Leonardo and Franky, I haven't tried out your changes yet but they sound very useful. I would also prefer the three switching buttons suggested by Franky. I think when putting them e.g. at the far right, they wouldn't really fill up the space too much or make the other keys too small. Another idea: Wouldn't it be possible to toggle the predictability of the keyboard through an option in the context (options) menu? By putting a checkmark in front you would also have a visual information about the state. I think this should be possible because when changing to the undocked keyboard the option Change input Method changes into a submenu. Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bluetooth spam
What you haven't experienced then is Toothing. Apparently, it's rife on the trains between London and Brighton (in the UK) and often ends up with the people toothing each other getting it together... Nothing to do with spam. If OpenMoko made this really easy then there'd be lots of new users! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toothing Being far to square for such fun, it's fortunate that my train goes to Bognor! Roland On 24 Apr 2009, at 10:48, PaulTT wrote: i think spam via bluetooth is even worse than email spamming. more and more worse. :( the idea and the implementation, however, it's veery coool :)) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
Hello husku, This article came as a surprise to me, maybe to you too: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtCreator_C%2B%2B/Qt You are right, I didn't know that article. So the topic IDE for app development seems to be covered. Does anyone have an idea for developing apps using the Qtextended specific classes or Qtextended itself? Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
Hello Radek, how do you run (and debug) the Qte applications on your PC? I know that Qte can be build for qtfb (or something like that) but I had some compile errors and didn't try again. Do you use this? How do you import the project into Qt Creator? Is there a project file in the git repository or does Qt Creator work just with the Makefile? Many simple questions... please excuse this, but since I am usually developing on a Windows machine (99.9% of our customers are running Windows) I'm not so familiar with the whole build and development process under Windows. Thanks, Roland -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community- boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Radek Polak Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:04 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: [Qtei] Which IDE for Development? Roland wrote: Is there any IDE one can use for the development? Coming from software development with Qt Desktop I think I would be able to contribute, but working with a normal editor is not really fun. For new application I am using QT Creator - very nice IDE with integrated debugger, completion and other stuff. I build the and debug the application on PC and then just compile for QTE. Also: Is there a way to debug the newly written applications? QT creator has debugger integrated. If you ever need to debug on Neo, you can use gdb. I am willing to install any Linux distribution and any package needed for development - but I have to admit I don't have a clue what to install. Just clone QTE git and build it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qt_Extended_Improved If you have application working on PC with creator then just do: /path_to_your_qte/build/bin/qmake -project /path_to_your_qte/build/bin/qmake Copy the binary to Neo, login via SSH, do: source /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/qpe.env ./your_app Any comment and recommendation is welcome! Roland Any new and useful application are welcome :) Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qtei] Which IDE for Development?
Hello all, I want to get a little more involved in development for Qtei. Especially after Franky's cry for help. Franky: I have to agree with Leonardo - great work! To you and everybody else working on Qtei - I'm really impressed with the improvements in the last months. So why am I writing this mail... I have downloaded the sources of Qtextended and also built it a couple of times. I also did a checkout of the new git repository and that worked for me as well. But any changes I made I had to type into a plain text editor and that is kind of annoying. Is there any IDE one can use for the development? Coming from software development with Qt Desktop I think I would be able to contribute, but working with a normal editor is not really fun. Also: Is there a way to debug the newly written applications? I am willing to install any Linux distribution and any package needed for development - but I have to admit I don't have a clue what to install. Any comment and recommendation is welcome! Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7
Hi Franky, A new version is available that fixes the issue with incoming phonenumbers being parsed wrong (was a typo of me): http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090416.tgz . I installed it yesterday, the phone number bug is indeed gone now. Great response time! Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7
Hi Franky, yesterday I installed a completely new system according to your instructions. Because I didn't get any USB connection (seems to be a windows problem) I tried different rootfs images. Currently I'm running MS5.1. I have found two problems so far: 1. The date can not be set through the GUI. 2. When receiving a call, the name is not found in the address book and the number of the caller seems to be only displayed if it is stored on the SIM-card (not address book). Example: I tried calling myself from my home-landline (number not in FreeRunner) and it just showed Unknown. In my office I repeated this and it showed Unknown but as number Roland/bp - which is how it is stored on the SIM-card. One question: Do you recommend using qi or uboot? Or do both just work fine? Thanks so far, Roland -Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community- boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Franky Van Liedekerke Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:46 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7 (install instructions and script updated on 2090415: see below) Problems solved: - 20090401: 2.6.28 ok (even 2.6.29-rc2 ok) - 20090401: alarms OK (using atd from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/base/, since no newer package exists), normal + when suspended - 20090401: wake up when receiving sms, OK - 20090401: call + echo check, all OK - 20090401: duplicate sms thing: solved (see also fix on 20090412) - 20090401: mail ok - 20090401: wifi ok - 20090403: voice notes (see my mail/patch) ok - 20090404: usb cable handling: ok (mailed a patch to Filip, I hope he integrates all the 2.6.28 patches and commits them) - 20090404: bluetooth ok (need to downgrade to bluez3 and not use bluez4, install script updated accordingly) - 20090410: voicemail number is now saved across reboots (see http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/15) - 20090410: snooze function works correctly now for repetitive alarms (see http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/27) - 20090412: wlan no longer always online after unsuspend. I don't know if this saves power or not though ... - 20090412: SMS's are deleted from SIM after being read (see http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/29). THIS NEEDS TESTING!!! - 20090413: vibrating/alarm/snoozing: works reliable now (there was a bug in the used timers logic that could cause infinite vibrating) - 20090415: missed calls bug finally solved, it took some code rewriting I found in the qtopia version Om2008.12 (thanks Holger!) - 20090415: outgoing call doesn't register anymore as missed when aborting the call before the connection is made (again: thanks Holger!) (the last 2 fixes aren't in any tickets, I need to create a patch for these.) Problems found (more like small nuisances now): === - if you set the time back to something in the past, the clock service crashes and you need to restart qtextended if you want to use the clock again - bluetooth is not working totally ok, only after initial boot it works, not after suspend/resume. Seems to be kernel/bluez3 version combo issue ... After suspend/resume bluetooth seems to work, but receiving files for sure don't. - if you try to delete the Wireless Lan, the system crashes ... cool huh, a crashed phone? So for now: don't do it :-) - waiting call notification doesn' t work for me, it seems that the command to set the CCWA on the network fails for me: AtChat : T : AT+CCWA=1,1,1 AtChat : F : +CME ERROR: 4 AtChat : T : AT+CCWA=1,2 AtChat : F : +CCWA: 0,7 AtChat : F : OK The error +CME ERROR: 4 means that the operation is not supported. Is this provider related? - I had a problem with the battery service crashing on me; all of the suddenly (after many suspend/resumes) the device gave me a warning that the battery was critical low, but after another suspend/resume cycle, the icon showed a full battery (even though the battery was at 60% or so) Install instructions: = download the script http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/openmoko_install.sh , read the comments at the top and then execute the script on your openmoko (after having flashed the device and made sure internet works). For those who just want to replace their existing QtE: just download the QtE compressed file and replace your existing QtE with it: http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090415.tgz. Enjoy! Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)
Hi Franky, [...] Install instructions: = download the script http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/openmoko_install.sh , read the comments at the top and then execute the script on your openmoko (after having flashed the device and made sure internet works). Which images (rootfs and kernel) do you use/recommend? I am running Qte for some time now as daily phone and your list sounds really interesting! Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: latest and greatest, progress mail 5 (stable 2.6.28 usage)
Hello Franky, I guess I should have read that first. Very good documentation! Thank you, I will try it out real soon. Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Michele Renda, 2008-12-29 13:00:01 +0100 : Please, who has some time, can you please write your country (Italy, France, etc.) and the way how usually is normal to read a phone number in your country (with international prefix) For France (+33), the usual format is +33 # ## ## ## ## (international format) or 0# ## ## ## ## (without the international prefix). Sometimes the ## components are grouped by pairs, giving two blocks of digits, but that's not quite common. Digits (or groups of digits) are usually separated by spaces, but sometimes by dots (as in 0#.##.##.##.##). Roland. -- Roland Mas Sauvez une souris, mangez votre chat. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How do you like to read a phone number?
Michele Renda, 2008-12-29 13:27:45 +0100 : Il 29/12/2008 13:20, Roland Mas ha scritto: For France (+33), the usual format is +33 # ## ## ## ## (international format) or 0# ## ## ## ## (without the international prefix) Thank you for your answer. I have a question: this is valid for every number? (both Fix and Mobil?) Yes. Normal numbers in mainland France are 10 digits (including initial 0), as well as most special numbers (toll-free or premium-rate). That includes landlines, mobile phones, and the numbers provided by most ADSL ISPs when they provide VOIP to their subscribers. A few special numbers are shorter, such as the directory enquiries, some 4-digit numbers for rapid access to some large corporations or entities, and some 6-digit numbers that are (as far as I know) mostly used for sending SMS at a premium rate and get something in return (ringtones, background images, horoscopes and so on). And for you... for example... when you dial a number, is more easy to read a number in this format +33 # ## ## ## ## ? My personal preference is +33 # , but it is not very common. Most people don't know (or don't want to see) the +33 part, and they usually see (and write) five pairs of digits. and the last question... there is a rule in France to separate a fixed number / mobile number? Yes, although the IP/telephony convergence is blurring the line a bit. Historically, 01 to 05 numbers (+33 1 to +33 5) are geographical numbers corresponding to landlines. 06 numbers are mobile phones. 08 numbers are for special rates (toll-free or premium-rate) as well as VOIP. VOIP numbers are theoretically migrating to be 09, but not everyone knows or uses their 09 number. Also, some VOIP providers give numbers that look like they're geographical, whereas some others give out 08 or 09 numbers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_France has all the details. Roland. -- Roland Mas Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life -- Solid Jackson, in Jingo (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Newbie: Converting a brick to a phone
I, like a great many others I suspect, have a NeoFreerunner doing its best impression of a brick on the shelf because I just don't have the time to get it to the point where it works as a phone before I start doing what I got it for - developing additional software. Monitoring these lists and the wiki periodically produces an impetus for dusting it off and giving it another go (like this past week-end's claim that WSOD was gone) before reality sinks home and either the Neo white screens or my trusty Mac grey screens. Yes there are many different distributions out there but what is very clearly missing are simple, obvious instructions on how to go from a brick to a working device - just a machine that will turn on and off, will ring, answer and make calls, not hang and not have buzzing when on a call. After that, the user should be left to get on with it but I've completely failed to get to that stage despite trying 4 different distributions. I'm really talking basic here - if you have a machine that works for you, what Bootloader, Kernel and RootFS are you using and where did you get them from? What were the core applications that you loaded to make it work, where did you get them from and which versions? What were the modifications that you made to various settings files. If you have a working machine, could you blat it and rebuild it to get to the same position as you are in now? If so, would you document your process and share it with us? I don't really care which distribution at the moment - I just want one that could claim to work that I can then start developing with. I've got my Python books out ready... I have searched high and low through the wiki and list archives for over a month with no joy. If I've missed something blindingly obvious then perhaps you'd point me in the right direction. I guess the issue is that I'm neither a hardware hacker nor a kernel hacker but an application hacker - I'm certainly not an end user in the normal mobile phone sense but I still can't get anywhere. The temptation is just to say oh well, I'll just leave it and go and play with Android or get an iPhone but that is not what I got onto this for... Roland -- QURU Ltd, London smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
Hello Warren, I also have the problem with the missing ring-tones. Just choose one you copied to the file-system. It seems as if the builtin tones are just not found/included. I haven't quite understood one point - does your phone wake up from suspend when you get a call? For some people (sounds like everybody) the resume is working - but not for me. With speakerphone mode didn't work - do you mean the acoustic feedback? I found an AT-command which has to be sent at the beginning of each call. I compiled a library including this command and the one that fixes the echo bug and now I don't have any sound problems during calls. Since I don't want to switch phones all the time, I am using the Freerunner with Qtextended 4.4.2 in daily use. I'm still looking how to fix some annoying stuff, but am already very happy with the system. Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: QtExtended 4.4.2 : GPRS
Hello, in which script did you change the dialup number? I have to change the one for my provider too but don ‘t want to use the console to create the connection. Thanks, Roland -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nishit Dave Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:15 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 : GPRS […] I have figured out where the chat script and settings rest, edited the script to reflect the correct dialup number *99# for Vodafone Mumbai (not the default *99#) and after Bart's advise, have been successfully able to *establish* a connection. […] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Any hope for bug #666?
Hello, I just got my Freerunner and - of course - it didn't work with my O2 (Germany) card. I went to a local O2 shop and was able to try out a new SIM card they had in the shop. This card had a completely different pin-layout than my old card and it worked! The card is (allegedly) also a 3G-card - since I don't have any UMTS-modem at hand I couldn't try it out, so this doesn't seem to be the problem. Anyway I am happy to be able to use my Freerunner now. I will take a picture of the pin-layout soon and put it on the ticket site. Regards, Roland From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JC Denton Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:51 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Any hope for bug #666? Hi, is there any new info / progress on bug #666 ( http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 ) that is not yet on the trac/wiki? That bug is now 15 months (!) old and has yet to receive any serious attention - I'm hesitating to buy a Freerunner solely because it most likely wont work with my O2 sim. Can any openmoko engineer shed some light on this - has there been anything from TI? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] how to build emacs 23?
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2008-10-07 10:02:56 +0200 : I would like to build emacs 23 for Freerunner on Debian, but I have no clear idea how to do it. Pointers would be appreciated. Unofficial source packages are available on http://emacs.orebokech.com/ Roland. -- Roland Mas In every life you got some trouble, when you worry you make it double. -- in Don't worry, be happy (Bobby McFerrin) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 17:51:30 +0200 : If someone of you manage to use fso-gpsd with tangogps for more than a few minutes without problems than please report it. My try to do so ended in a failure why i use (old) gpsd at the moment. It works for me. I don't record traces these days because I'm stuck at home working, but I get a fix that lasts for as long as I've looked at it so far. Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes n'ont qu'un oeil. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 18:10:13 +0200 : It works for me. I don't record traces these days because I'm stuck at home working, but I get a fix that lasts for as long as I've looked at it so far. And you use debian and only deinstalled gpsd und installed fso-gpsd for that to work? Yes. Is the gps-time correctly shown in tangogps? I must confess I don't look at GPS time that often (NTP is there for a reason :-). Now you mention it, it seems to believe we are currently on the 30th of November, 2008 at midnight. Roland. -- Roland Mas Bonjour, je suis un virus de signature. Propagez-moi dans la vôtre ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 18:28:25 +0200 : Ok, than this bug still exists. Actually... I left the FR running since my last mail, and it now displays the correct GPS time. I didn't keep an eye on it, so I don't know how long it took. Roland. -- Roland Mas Bee There Orr Bee A Rectangular Thyng! -- in Soul Music (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Numptyphysics on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michele Renda, 2008-09-01 10:56:52 +0200 : It will be nice to have a little repository for all the person that use Debian on FR where they can find the programs that are unavailable on the Debian official channed ! That's exactly what the pkg-fso repository is about, you know. Roland. -- Roland Mas It would be hard to be deader without special training. -- in Theatre of Cruelty (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official
Risto H. Kurppa, 2008-08-16 12:31:22 +0300 : On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:22 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So now people, let's write a page that lists some cool (read: recommended or so..) apps that you can run on debian here :) i am far more intersted to switch to a useful desktop manager and still to be able to use the phone part. at least i'd like to know how i do access installed applications, zhone only presents that four predefined buttons. .. let me know if you find it out. Installing gdm and xfce4 would take approx 85 megs, I only have 70 left after the installation on my kit-512MB card (didn't wanto to empty 8GB one - especially when there's been some sdhc io-reports..) so can't try it yet. Hints to free up some space: - Remove /usr/share/man - Remove /usr/share/doc - Remove unneeded directories in /usr/share/locale/ (mine now contains only the English variants, plus French) The files in there will reappear if you reinstall or upgrade packages, so this is only a temporary trick. Nice results, though: debian-gta02:~# df -h / FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs462M 287M 151M 66% / debian-gta02:~# Still not small enough to fit into NAND flash, unfortunately. Roland. -- Roland Mas C r ' s d a ue ell r a u i r . -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°1, partie 1/3. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: atd: how to start a job every 10 minutes ?
Harald Koenig, 2008-08-15 12:04:44 +0200 : Hi, I'd like to trigger at jobs every ~10 minutes (so that RTC resumes from suspend) but somehow atd (Om 2008.8) behaves strange any hints how to deal with atd and trigger jobs ? You may want ot look at cron instead of at. at is for one-time jobs, cron is for recurring jobs. Roland. -- Roland Mas ... all in all it's just another rule in the firewall. -- Ping Flood ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?
Jay Vaughan, 2008-08-13 22:47:28 +0200 : Oh come on. After reading all your (and others') scary messages about that, I decided to give it a try. So I pointed my browser to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile. Half an hour later, I had a build in progress. Most of that half-hour was spent waiting for stuff to download, and part of the rest was due to my running the whole stuff in a particular isolated environment (cowbuilder chroot, for those who care) with its own characteristics (stuff runs as root, and I didn't have a home directory). great that its working for you, looking forward to future news of your .ipk URL's .. I'm more likely to provide *.deb, actually, but that's just because I'm an arrogant, smug, elitist Debian bastard (and not ashamed of it, either). Of course, the build hasn't completed yet (I have a few *.ipk already, but the webpage mentions 5 hours on a computer that's rather faster than mine), but if pasting less than 15 commands straight from a web page is too high a barrier to entry for prospective developers, I doubt they'd be able to accomplish much even if it was a single command to run. since where did i say that i couldn't follow the instructions on the wiki? You didn't, as far as I know. You did, however, complain loudly about how it's hard to keep up with them with regards to code changes and build environments. Which is what I was replying to: there's a make target to update all of that in the MokoMakefile, so it's one command to type. the issue is that there is no one stable, common, build system - or distribution channel - for developers to pop their stuff into, and with the moving targets of 'fso' vs. 'asu' vs 'om2007.2' vs 'underground' vs 'etc', its a bother. Choice in build systems isn't bad per se, as far as I know. And choice a definite bonus when it comes to distribution channels: I wouldn't want the official feeds to contain random contributed packages. I don't have a problem with people adding unofficial repositories and publishing the URLs, though. I do agree with the probably excessive multiplicity of targets, but my feeling is that this is going to settle down. OM2007.2 seems to have entered maintenance-only mode, I expect ASU/OM2008.8 to follow the same path, and I envision most of the momentum moving to FSO. As for the distribution system underneath, I'd be happy to see it migrate to Debian proper, since that would gain us the whole Debian repositories, build systems, tools and experience to build on, but maybe that's just me dreaming (although I'm quite impressed with the fact that the pkg-fso team has managed to prepare a working Debian-based image with FSO and Zhone in a few days). Half an hour. 15 commands to copy and paste. How much more hand-holding does a developer need? please, do not assume i am a fool unless you would consider like countenance. Whoa, calm down. I do not assume you are a fool. I was just pointing out a discrepancy between your loud complaints about the barrier to entry, which looked scary to me, and how it's actually rather easy to setup a development environment. its not the hand-holding or the trick makefiles. its the dire lack of a dictator to rally around and form a federation .. and as a result, actually, building apps for the phone *with* the phone is turning out to be, frankly, a lot more workable - and lightweight - than over a year of mokomakefile groupthink right about now .. One more reason that NIH-syndrome is evil. Should have gone for Debian right at the start :-) (In order not to degenerate into a DSW, here are my own contributions so far: 1. a Python script to load and save contacts to files in 2007.2, and 2. a failed attempt at another script to switch from lock-and-suspend to lock-only when a call is active. You win hands down.) Roland. -- Roland Mas Why did the elephant cross the road? Because it was the chicken's day off. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?
arne anka, 2008-08-14 14:24:58 +0200 : I'm more likely to provide *.deb, actually, but that's just because I'm an arrogant, smug, elitist Debian bastard (and not ashamed of it, either). yeah! that's the spirit! you don't have by chance a blog or so where you jot down your experiences with debian on fr? i think, i am going to try it this weekend. I have a blog, but I haven't started mentioning the FR on it yet. Nor have I started running Debian on the FR. OM2007.2 works for me, and I'm loathe to switch to something else until it stabilises a bit. Probably some time around FSO milestone 3. In the meantime, there is http://wiki.debian.org/pkg-fso. Roland. -- Roland Mas How does an octopus go into battle? Fully-armed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?
Jay Vaughan, 2008-08-13 14:42:23 +0200 : Idea of Open Source projects is to release them before they're ready, to let community work on them as well. That would be fine in our case, *if* we could work on them concurrently, but there is so much cruft in dealing with the build environment - and too many forks in the details - that it makes it very unproductive to try to contribute. Oh come on. After reading all your (and others') scary messages about that, I decided to give it a try. So I pointed my browser to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile. Half an hour later, I had a build in progress. Most of that half-hour was spent waiting for stuff to download, and part of the rest was due to my running the whole stuff in a particular isolated environment (cowbuilder chroot, for those who care) with its own characteristics (stuff runs as root, and I didn't have a home directory). Of course, the build hasn't completed yet (I have a few *.ipk already, but the webpage mentions 5 hours on a computer that's rather faster than mine), but if pasting less than 15 commands straight from a web page is too high a barrier to entry for prospective developers, I doubt they'd be able to accomplish much even if it was a single command to run. Half an hour. 15 commands to copy and paste. How much more hand-holding does a developer need? Roland. -- Roland Mas A man walks into a bar. Bang. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS / Wifi
Mike Baroukh, 2008-08-10 00:52:11 +0200 : But I'm asking this : When using wifi or usb, I don't need a proxy. When using GPRS, I need a proxy. I will not re-configure anything each time. Does somebody know if there is a solution ? Putting scripts into /etc/network/if-up.d would probably work. for each connection, there would be parameters : - ip (static or dhcp) This should be configured in /etc/network/interfaces - nameserver - gateway This info can come from the DHCP server, the PPP remote end, or static in /etc/network/interfaces again. - proxy (http / https / ftp ...) - proxy type (transparent or not) - user/password for proxy - may be max upload/download bandwith - may be firewall rules Scripts are your friends there :-) Last : may be it could connect to internet transparently if needed by an application. At least on Debian, there's a diald package that does exactly this. I guess it could be ported to Openmoko. Roland. -- Roland Mas M-x execute-extended-command ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS / Wifi
Mike Baroukh, 2008-08-10 12:43:49 +0200 : Putting scripts into /etc/network/if-up.d would probably work. Not so easy : - you may have 2 places where the same interface has different parameters (wifi at home and wifi at work ...). So you can't just add [pre|post]-up parameters in /etc/network/interface. Yes you can. I do that on my laptop already: the scripts do the detection of what Wifi access points are in the vicinity, and change various parameters accordingly (WEP key, HTTP proxy, and I even used to change the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list at some point). - Not so easy to configure tangogps, maemo, wget, mail client, ... Because they use different configuration schemes, I guess. As for Tangogps, I think you can already change the configuration with gconftool-2. As for the others, I don't know. Thats why I think that place parameters should be part of the framework and not just scripting. Application then could be compiled for the framework and using shared informations on how to connect. That looks like overkill to me. Why add more complexity to the framework when you already have a $http_proxy environment variable? Finally, connection parameters should not be part of the system. They are part of my profiles = they don't ahve to be in /etc/network/interface. And on that point, I wholeheartedly disagree. Down that way lies madness, and application-specific parameters, and a whole mess of synchronisation problems and hard-to-debug stuff. Personnaly, to connect wifi, I prefer to use a script like INTERFACE=eth0 ifconfig $INTERFACE up iwconfig $INTERFACE essid myessid iwconfig $INTERFACE mode managed iwconfig $INTERFACE channel 7 iwconfig $INTERFACE key open my wep key udhcpc -i eth0 I prefer using just ifup eth1 and have pre/post scripts in /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/*.d, but that's a matter of taste. Roland. -- Roland Mas - Ogenki desuka, yau de poêle ? - Genki desu, ture en zinc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner for Sale
Pricing? And what about w/o ATT card? I have a phone-free E-Plus (german provider) here. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wrong offset of mouse in landscape mode (and scummvm)
Dale Maggee, 2008-08-07 02:31:23 +1000 : [...] I'm having exactly the same problem with scummVM as described above. Looking I found /usr/bin/scummvm, but trying to run it i get : /bin/sh: /usr/bin/scummvm: not found which is very odd, because I can type /usr/bin/scum[TAB], and it autocompletes to scummvm. the file is marked as executable. I can't see anything wrong. This usually means a broken (or missing) interpreter. If /usr/bin/scummvm is a compiled binary, then the interpreter would be libc6/ld.so, but I assume you'd have been bitten by that earlier... Roland. -- Roland Mas Êtes vous sûr ? (O/N) -- Derniers mots d'un ordinateur ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ringtone and vibration configuration
Hans L, 2008-07-26 03:55:14 -0500 : I think next I will attempt to make a program to record beats in real time by pressing the touchpad to the beat. And next, you'll port Guitar Hero or Frets On Fire, and you'll be adulated by lots of people :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas The cherry blossom / Tumbles from the highest tree / One needs more petrol -- in Good Omens (Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: sysfsutils -- the script
arne anka, 2008-07-23 20:03:21 +0200 : sysfsutils (at least on debian/unstable) contains a script, that reads a configfiole on startup and sets values in /sys/ accordingly. Thanks for the script. [...] class/leds/gta02-power:orange/trigger=bat-charging class/leds/gta02-power:blue/trigger=bat-full class/leds/gta02-aux:red/trigger=nand-disk when chargin the orange led should shine, when full the blue. For some reason, once the battery has started charging, it doesn't seem to stop. Sometimes the LED briefly flickers when I unplug the USB cable, but it comes up again. The icon in the top of the screen changes to a battery rather than one with a lightning-bolt in it, but what does it know, the LED is directly plugged into the kernel, so I guess it's authoritative. Apparently the hardware guys finally found an infinite source of energy! ...that, or the kernel just forgets to switch the LED off. Andy? Roland. -- Roland Mas Reincarnation likes a joke as much as the next philosophical hypothesis. -- in The Truth (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: sysfsutils -- the script
Andy Green, 2008-07-24 09:34:12 +0100 : [...] | ...that, or the kernel just forgets to switch the LED off. Andy? Should be fixed in the last couple of days [...] If you're running today's kernel, then... obviously not fixed enough! I believe I am. My installed kernel is from Jul 23 06:34:19 CEST with Version: 2:2.6.24+git24+be0f111b3d1570dec174ff301d08bad995ccf1e6-r0 (and yes, I have rebooted into it :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas La menace de la baffe pèse plus lourd que la baffe elle-même. -- in Sri Raoul le petit yogi (Gaudelette) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to import vCard into contacts
Maciej Piechotka, 2008-07-24 11:58:03 +0200 : On my previous phone I had large collection of the contacts (email, phones etc.). I've exported it by gammu to the vCard format. How to import them into OpenMoko Contacts? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts Roland. -- Roland Mas Just because you're dead doesn't mean they aren't still out to get you. -- Virgil, in Ye Gods! (Tom Holt) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?
Cédric Berger, 2008-07-23 14:10:44 +0200 : (I'm french... I just try not to use too wrong words to describe :-) I assume you got it from Zagg; were there any surprises such as customs/taxes surcharge? I've been caught quite a few times by interesting prices that turned up not too interesting after the customs took their toll :-/ Roland. -- Roland Mas One... two... one, two, many, lots! -- Lias, in Soul music (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Andy Green, 2008-07-20 18:50:02 +0100 : Thanks for this report, I went and looked and found I didn't take care of the case where last packet transferred was not a bulk read packet: that what happens on resume. I added a patch to stable branch that should be out tomorrow hopefully and give the same SD_CLK performance with or without resumes. Based on a handful of tests, and without tweaking the new parameter, I can confirm that the GPS problem seems fixed for me, even after suspending, even indoors. Let me get this straight: Andy, you rock. Others @openmoko: you rock too. So there. Now this gets me wondering whether the Freerunner could sustain an Openstreetmap editor for realtime map-making :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas Homme qui plus rien à dire, citer proverbe chinois. -- Proverbe chinois. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Matchbox Keyboard Layout Change
shawn sullivan, 2008-07-21 09:01:26 -0600 : Dvorak, here I come! Er, Dvorak on a touchscreen might be exactly the wrong thing to do... you don't really want to alternate taps on both sides of the screen, do you? Unless you meant some layout optimised especially for the FR touchscreen according to the same methods that gave us the Dvorak-ish keyboard layouts, in which case I'm all in favour :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas Why did the elephant cross the road? Because it was the chicken's day off. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rules based policy engine
Scott Derrick, 2008-07-20 06:45:44 -0600 : If GPS position is going to be a phone answering rule you would have to have the GPS sub system running all the time. It can't wake from sleep and acquire a position soon enough go be part of the decision. Not sure what that will do to battery life. You could approximate with the GSM cell identifiers. Roland. -- Roland Mas Et c'est tellement plus mignon de se faire traiter de con en chanson... -- in En chantant (Michel Sardou) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Special Letters?
arne anka, 2008-07-20 16:01:34 +0200 : sadly enough i currently have no clue what causes the lack of anything non-ascii, would have expected he fr to be unicode driven. I think it is Unicode driven. My contacts have some non-ascii characters in their names, and they display just fine. I guess the problem is mostly the input method. Roland. -- Roland Mas Bee There Orr Bee A Rectangular Thyng! -- in Soul Music (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import Contacts
C R McClenaghan, 2008-07-16 10:35:13 -0700 : All, I get the following error using manage-contacts.py in the following way from SSH: python manage-contacts.py load vCards.vcf [...] dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method addContact with signature s on interface org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.addressbook.Book doesn't exist I have installed via opkg python-dbus per wiki instructions. Strange. It still works here. You do have openmoko-contacts2 installed, right? You're not using ASU or Qtopia or something? Roland. -- Roland Mas Despite rumour, Death isn't cruel - merely terribly, terribly good at his job. -- in Sourcery (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import Contacts
Jeffrey Ratcliffe, 2008-07-20 20:13:29 +0200 : I have the same problem, and additionally, the dump option runs without error, but also without output. I just tried again, and I managed to get these symptoms when running the script too soon after a boot. The second run went on fine. Maybe something needs the daemon to be started, and it's not started initially... Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, il y a des borgnes à ne pas dépasser. -- in Soeur Marie-Thérèse des Batignolles (Maëster) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Timo Jyrinki, 2008-07-18 13:42:02 +0300 : Does anyone else have a reliability problem now with the new kernel and GPS when SD card is used? Am Fr 18. Juli 2008 schrieb Roland Mas: I have. Didn't manage to properly isolate the problem, but my gut feeling is that Andy's patch to disable SD when acquiring the first fix does only that for, well, the first fix. *Apparently*, there are circumstances where running agpsgui once, getting a fix, exiting and restarting afterwards, doesn't result in the FR getting a new fix. As you said, rebooting solves the problem, but suspend/resume cycles don't seem to reliably fix it. Joerg Reisenweber, 2008-07-19 00:26:14 +0200 : Sorry! There's *no* disabling of SDcard for FF! My apologies. I was under the impression that the gist of the kernel patch was to temporarily switch off the clock for the SD card reader when it's not in use, and that this was able to reduce interference with GPS signals, thus helping TTFF. But I haven't touched radio comms for years, so I might be completely off. Who's talking about suspend/resume cycles, did I miss sth? I am. Since rebooting seemed to have an influence on the problem, I thought it could help if I tried suspending and report my results. Please read the appropriate posts describing the way this patch works. Otherwise, please don't conclude on false assumptions, but just report what you observed. Thanks for regarding this, helps a lot! That's what I was trying to do. I suppose my wording was not good enough, and I apologise for that. Roland. -- Roland Mas Bee There Orr Bee A Rectangular Thyng! -- in Soul Music (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import Contacts
Alexander Lehner, 2008-07-18 04:06:53 +0200 : - unicode/UTF8 I managed to convert vcard fields into proper UTF-8 (from plain ASCII). But it seems to me that UTF-8 conversion is not well supported with the basic (python) set-up on the phone. I had to do this on my linux host. To be honest, the main reason I wrote manage-contacts.py was to be able to edit contacts on my main computer :-) I'm frightened enough by the input method of the Freerunner, I don't even want to think about entering Unicode characters on it just yet. Also, the resulting characters were not correctly displayed in my case even though contacts import did not complain (any experience here whether display of e.g. german umlaute works?) No umlaute here, but I do have some French accented letters such as é and è and aven one æ, and they display fine. I even tried typing my Japanese teacher's name in Japanese, but apparently there's no Japanese-capable font in OM2007.2 so far. While I'm at it: it might be interesting setting a proper locale name in /etc/profile, so contacts are sorted according properly. I did that with export LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, so names starting with É sort among the names starting with E rather than at the very end. The backside of that is that agpsui tries to interpret gpsd's output as fr_FR, with its decimal separator set to a comma rather than a dot, and therefore wrong data comes out. But I suspect that's just a bug. Roland. -- Roland Mas /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery Lifetime
Andy Green, 2008-07-18 10:29:54 +0100 : Somebody in the thread at some point said: | What's wrong with 100's of resumes / day, as long as each one takes no | longer | than 2~3sec, and is on low power profile? | | the screen becomes senstive to tapping -- and if your fr is in a place | where taps to the screen might occur frequently (say in your bag) it will | never suspend. Touchscreen is not a wake from suspend source, so as you suggest it didn't get to suspend to make this trouble. Answer for that is in the X world, giving an easy way to get into suspend immediately if you know it goes to your bag. The scenario, as I understand it, is this: 1. Freerunner gets into suspend (either manually or after some time); 2. Freerunner is put into bag; 3. GSM ping gets the phone out of suspend; 4. Freerunner is still in the bag (and you're walking to/from work), so its touchscreen prevents further suspends. Roland. -- Roland Mas Qu'est-ce qui est petit, jaune et vachement dangereux ? Un canari avec le mot de passe de root. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Battery Lifetime
arne anka, 2008-07-18 15:09:01 +0200 : is there a way to detect when it wakes? a hook to plug custom actions into? You might try sticking a script in /etc/apm/resume.d, at least as a first approach. Roland. -- Roland Mas Certains disent que les vrais hommes ne font pas de backups. Mais ils disent aussi que même les vrais hommes pleurent parfois. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
Timo Jyrinki, 2008-07-18 13:42:02 +0300 : Does anyone else have a reliability problem now with the new kernel and GPS when SD card is used? I have. Didn't manage to properly isolate the problem, but my gut feeling is that Andy's patch to disable SD when acquiring the first fix does only that for, well, the first fix. *Apparently*, there are circumstances where running agpsgui once, getting a fix, exiting and restarting afterwards, doesn't result in the FR getting a new fix. As you said, rebooting solves the problem, but suspend/resume cycles don't seem to reliably fix it. Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, il y a des borgnes à ne pas dépasser. -- in Soeur Marie-Thérèse des Batignolles (Maëster) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Calendar
Steven **, 2008-07-17 14:56:39 -0500 : I believe the command to install it is: opkg install openmoko-dates2 It works ok. It's just really slow sometimes. I gather it's based on the EDS backend. So, for the obvious question: can one make that EDS talk to a remote calendar server? I have a CalDAV server that I use with Sunbird/Iceowl and Evolution, on both my main computer and my laptop when I'm away from home, and I'd just *love* to access it from my phone too. Any insight would be most welcome. Roland. -- Roland Mas Plant a radish, get a radish, never any doubt! -- Bellamy Hucklebee, in The Fantasticks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import Contacts
Andreas Dalsgaard, 2008-07-14 14:01:07 +0200 :
[...]
Take a quick look at the attached import_contacts.py script, it is
based on Al Johnson modification to Wurps script.
Please pardon my intruding into a thread, I just subscribed to the
list. I have also worked on contacts management, mostly to allow
myself to fix non-ASCII names in a real editor with a real keyboard.
The result is the attached script, which improves on the previous
ones in the following ways:
- you can run it through SSH, and it looks for a DBUS session;
- you can dump all contacts to a file (a series of concatenated
vcards);
- you an reload that file (after having altered it), and it'll update
contacts when they already exist (based on UID) or create
new contacts otherwise.
So, basically:
$ scp manage-contacts.py openmoko:
$ ssh openmoko python manage-contacts.py dump contacts.txt
$ emacs/vim/nano/gedit/whatever contacts.txt
$ ssh openmoko python manage-contacts.py load contacts.txt
As far as I'm concerned (look, I'm a Debian integrist, I'm
*supposed* to care about these things :-), my modifications to the
initial script are subject to the WTFPL.
Roland.
--
Roland Mas
Plus on en fout, plus y'en a du riz.
-- Proverbe chinois.
#!/usr/bin/python
# coding=utf-8
from __future__ import with_statement
import dbus
import sys, os
import tempfile
import re, string, time
ps = os.popen ('ps auxe | grep -m 1 DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS')
l = ps.read ()
r = re.compile ('DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=(\S+)')
m = r.search (l)
a = m.expand ('\\1')
os.environ ['DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS'] = a
bus_name = 'org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.AddressBook'
obj_name = '/org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/addressbook/file_3a__2f__2f__2f_home_2f_root_2f__2e_evolution_2f_addressbook_2f_local_2f_system'
addressBook = None
def getAddressBook ():
global addressBook
if addressBook is None:
sb = dbus.SessionBus ()
obj = sb.get_object (bus_name, obj_name)
addressBook = dbus.Interface (obj, 'org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.addressbook.Book')
return addressBook
if len (sys.argv) != 2:
print (Expects a single argument, 'dump' or 'load')
print (With 'dump', dumps all contacts as vcards to STDOUT)
print (With 'load', loads vcards from STDIN)
exit (1)
def dump_contacts ():
# Note: this is a gross hack, but I didn't manage to get getContactList to work
strings = os.popen ('strings /home/root/.evolution/addressbook/local/system/addressbook.db | grep ^pas-id- | sort -u').readlines ()
for id in strings:
id = id.rstrip ()
try:
print getAddressBook ().getContact (id) + \r
except:
pass
def load_contacts ():
contacts = parse_stdin ()
ab = getAddressBook ()
l = contacts.keys ()
l.sort ()
for k in contacts.keys ():
try:
c = ab.getContact (k)
print Contact already exists, modifying
try:
ab.modifyContact (contacts [k])
except:
print Got error when modifying + c
except:
print New contact
ab.addContact (contacts [k])
def parse_stdin ():
lines = sys.stdin.readlines ()
contacts = {}
cur = []
index = 0
for l in lines:
line = l.rstrip ()
if line == '':
continue
if line == 'END:VCARD':
cur.append (line)
seen = ''
for record in cur:
if record.startswith ('UID:'):
seen = record [4:]
seen = seen.rstrip ()
if seen == '':
seen = 'new-contact-' + str(index)
index += 1
contacts [seen] = string.join (cur, '\r\n')
cur = []
else:
if line.startswith ('REV:'):
cur.append ('REV: ' + time.strftime ('%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ', time.gmtime()))
else:
cur.append (line)
return contacts
if sys.argv [1] == 'load':
load_contacts ()
else:
dump_contacts ()
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Re: Import Contacts
Roland Mas, 2008-07-14 15:09:34 +0200 : - you can dump all contacts to a file (a series of concatenated vcards); Forgot to mention: that feature uses a gross hack, I'd be happy to see it cleaned up. I just didn't manage to find the query syntax for the getContactList() method. Roland. -- Roland Mas Le weblog entièrement nu -- http://roland.entierement.nu/ Le photoblog entièrement net -- http://roland.entierement.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import Contacts
smurfy - phil, 2008-07-14 15:30:22 +0200 : Please update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts with your new versions, if you need space i could place it @my domain (like my first version :D) Space isn't a problem (I uploaded the script to [1]), but I'm reluctant to create yet another account on yet another website. Could you add the link (and maybe rephrase the text on the article to remove the thing about running from a terminal rather than SSH)? Thanks, Roland. [1] http://www.placard.fr.eu.org/~roland/tmp/manage-contacts.py -- Roland Mas ()Campagne du ruban ASCII : /\Contre les mails en HTML et les vcard ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Re: Bestellung openmoko
On Wednesday, 2. July 2008, Marcel wrote: Short translation: Your packet has begun its trip today! Mine is canceled by myself today. :( Guess what was the reason... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: Re: Bestellung openmoko
On Wednesday, 2. July 2008, Diego Fdez. Durán wrote: What's the reason? the delay? Nope. That would be fine. Low money. :( I'm waiting to know when my FR will be shiped from Pulster too. -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Re: latest stable rootfs and kernel
Doh? It fires up but where is this beautiful desktop wallpaper? Ok, maybe I can find it somewhere in the configs. :) Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest stable rootfs and kernel
On Tuesday, 10. June 2008, rakshat hooja wrote: A request - can anyone identify the latest stable kernel and rootfs (ASU and GTK) for the Freerunner and Neo 1973. I have trying them from 10 june backwards and almost all of them crash after booting or cannot make phone calls. The latest stable or official images from daily build host are booting here on my qemu. Well, I don't have a real device here and I know there is a big difference between the Neo hardware and qemu. :) So if you mean stable then you maybe refer to the one were you can see black boots? Some days ago I had trouble with this combination, qemu + official images from build host, it doesn't launch the Enlightment desktop so it returns to the console. Even there I was not able to get keyboard focus. :( Here is the call for the qemu program: ( cd build/qemu arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm \ -M gta01 -m 130 -usb -show-cursor \ -usbdevice keyboard \ -mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image \ -sd openmoko/openmoko-sd.image \ -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin ) Now, it is booting up. So I need to wait if this Englightment problem turns up again. :) Roland thanks Rakshat -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!
My suggestion here is that OpenMoko may design another phone - if the market asks for this: - An OpenMoko for younger people who need the gaming controls Ortwin is mentioning as subject for removal. - Another OpenMoko for professionals/business/older people without the gameing controls but bigger screen. Maybe there is one available? Surely the software shipped with this OpenMoko doesn't need include software which requires the gaming controls. Any further ideas? :) Roland On Tuesday, 10. June 2008, Ortwin Regel wrote: There has been all this fruitless talk about resolution. Well, what is really limiting the Neo's screen right now is not resolution (obviously), not speed (at least not on the GTA01, no idea how messed up the 02 situation is. I'd guess it's faster most of the time.) but size! If the GTA03 get's a new case design, please consider making the screen twice as big! Then we are finally at a size were two-thumb-typing starts to make sense and even people with bad eye sight can benefit from the high resolution (although I'm not convinced that second point is a positive one... _). The device wouldn't even have to be bigger for this because so much space was wasted in the original Neo design. The only handheld I have owned where the screen could be called big enough was the Tapwave Zodiac (RIP). If you shave off the gaming controls and make it a little thicker, you get a very decent phone. Also, I suggest concentrating more on the horizontal usage. For example, bring the stereo speakers back but add one below and one above the display so that they are left and right in landscape. You can get a pretty good stereo effect at that distance. Ortwin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Audio in qemu?
Hi, I wonder if audio support is available when I build the qemu with MokoMakefile and make qemu? Sorry for bad english. :) I'm still improving it. ;) BTW: I have added --enable-alsa to the configure script because I have ALSA here. Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA - Two models? Was: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!
Ah, thanks for making it clear. :) On Tuesday, 10. June 2008, Ortwin Regel wrote: For the record: I was talking about the gaming controls of my Tapwave Zodiac. I realize that this was probably not all that clear from the context and apologize. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Trac down?
Hi OpenMoko team, it looks like your Trac at http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ is down? Roland -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: InvisibleShield screen protectors
Hi, On Friday, 6. June 2008, Yorick Matthys wrote: Hi, I only heard of them today, but they look very promissing: - life long warranty - free shipping worldwide Looks like scratch protection. :) But yet another $25 to think about. Okay, I order one for my FreeRunner. You can find more info on http://www.zagg.com/ If you search the internet it seems almost nobody regrets having bought one. Are there other persons interested in buying one? (I already know of one) We could ask them to make one for the Freerunner. In general it is always a good idea to put your cellphone or smartphone behind some cover. The cover costs mostly lesser than the smart phone so you may think about it. :) Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cleared to start Mass production
Hi, On Thursday, 5. June 2008, steve wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. Is this the mail I have waited for? :D -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cleared to start Mass production #2
Hi, On Thursday, 5. June 2008, steve wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production ( that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. Is this the mail I have been waiting for? :D Second try without signature. -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Europe Distribution
On Thursday, 22. May 2008, Steven Le Roux wrote: What about Europe distribution ;). Let's come back to the subject :) As I have read here in mailing list, TriSoft, Germany will do it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Announcement] MokoMakefile updated for switch to git
On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Tom Cooksey wrote: On Wednesday 21 May 2008 10:19:49 Rod Whitby wrote: Holger Freyther wrote: To unify our tools we have reduced the number of SCMs to learn from three to two. This means we only use subversion and git for now. I have moved the Openembedded metadata from monotone to git. ... An updated MokoMakefile will, thanks to Rod, follow shortly. MokoMakefile has been updated, tested by a couple of people, and now published. I'm trying to build from scratch and get the following: ( cd openembedded git checkout org.openmoko.april-update ) error: pathspec 'org.openmoko.april-update' did not match any file(s) known to git. Did you forget to 'git add'? I got the same error message here. Something seems to be missing (I'm not familar with git). Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
PIN secured?
I have already started a discussing in the Wiki about this topic: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Wish_List_-_Hardware#PIN_secured.3F So what do you think? And does the FreeRunner already have PINs/PUKs to be secured against long fingers? Best whishes, Roland -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Announcement] MokoMakefile updated for switch to git
Ahhh... Much better. :) Now let's see if I can run a make update all... -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Announcement] MokoMakefile updated for switch to git
Ahhh... Much better. :) Now let's see if I can run a make update all... And thanks a lot. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: PIN secured?
I have added it to hardware because it could be (maybe) integrated into the hardware and shall come up before u-boot launches the kernel. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PIN secured?
On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Daniel Selinger wrote: Afaik PIN and PUK are security mechanisms built into every GSM SIM-Card, you also get them shipped with the SIM, not the Phone. So i think the Freerunner _has to_ implement PIN and PUK for even accessing the SIM in it. rgds Daniel Ahh, okay. I did not know this. :) Thanks for the infos. Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... When it's done. ;) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Hi Michele, On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Michele Renda wrote: When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :) Probably he will not ask it. ;) In my view OpenMoko should take time in testing it. And as you can see on the bug tracker they still have to fix a lot bugs. I think this is the right link: --- START -- http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=product=Debug+Boardproduct=FreeRunnerproduct=GT-OO1+GSM+Modemproduct=MIGRATIONproduct=Neo1973+Hardwareproduct=OpenMokolong_desc_type=allwordssubstrlong_desc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=changedin=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=cmdtype=doitnewqueryname=order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timefield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= --- END -- (long one!) A good and complex product needs a lot time to develop, test and test again. :) I don't mind if it takes 2 weeks longer and the people from OpenMoko (Sean for example) is keeping us up-to-date. Thats what they can do until it is released and ready for beta. :) Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qemu image?
As far as I understand the logic and the version number: Yes. But I might be wrong. :) On Friday, 16. May 2008, George Brooke wrote: Hi people, could some one explain this to me, Is the OM image that you get when you build qemu with the mokomakefile fairly close to the system that will ship with the phone? Will the next software update completely replace this with a different interface? solar.george ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multi-Level Markting - Is OpenMoko interested in?
On Tuesday, 6. May 2008, Stefan Misch wrote: Hello Roland, Hi Stefan, while I think that the OpenMoko should get more attention in the media I don't think it's a good idea to use all methods you mentioned. I have just listed possible ways. Taking all ways would be too much and maybe wrong. I would vote here for per-sale where you get a percentage or provision for helping a company selling their product. It must not be much, maybe 4% ? An affiliate program (e.g. via zanox) would be a great idea but forced clicks and paid mails are dubious advertising methods at best. IMHO the Freerunner should get a more *honest* (in lack of a better word) advertising than that. Also I think that as long as the software is not end-user friendly it's better to stick to word-of-mouth advertising plus technology geared media. Yes, that's correct. First OpenMoko should make their software stable than sell it to the end-user. He/she wants to have a phone and maybe some more, not a testing suite. :-) On Tuesday, 6. May 2008, ramsesoriginal wrote: I dont remembre if I already mentioned it or only planned to mention it, but i would recommend giving http://zooppa.com/ a look when it comes to advertising. I think the Openmoko would be a great product for this kind of advertisement. Basically its user generatet advertisement. In a really funny way. I will have a look on it for my own purposes, thanks for the link. Can you send me directly a referral link? Please not here in list. :) All the best, Roland -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
These people are *really* horney on a free phone... ;-) Just the result of my watching this list. :) I can wait here long thats not the problem. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway
350 EURO + 5 EURO for shipping and handling to me as a german citizen. They are from Germany so I don't know if they sell to Norway as well and under the same conditions. So maybe higher SH price. :/ Order together with many people as you can get. And yes, get their money first... ;-) Roland On Wednesday, 16. April 2008, Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Hei I have heard that only people from Asia and US can buy from OpenMoko And that people fra Europe have to buy from trisoft. The problem here is that trisoft is selling it for 399 I do NOT know if this is true or correct Is this true? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
On Saturday, 22. March 2008, Edwin Lock wrote: Hello World, Hello Steve! Considering that Neo Freerunner phones can be preordered now at TRIsoft[1] I (and several others) are wondering if TRIsoft is the official reseller for Europe? This question has arisen because Christian Pulster has claimed that an agreement between TRIsoft and OM inc. is non-existant[2] and bases his status of an official reseller on a press release[3]. The question is: Who is correct? Has there been an agreement? Or is this just another case of miscommunication? I would be pleased to get an official answer from an employee. Regards, Edwin Lock [1] http://trisoft.de/openmoko [2] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1258538#msg-1258538(german) [3] http://forum.golem.de/read.php?23925,1258538,1259049#msg-1259049(german) Hello, I have phoned with them some minutes ago - a german free-call number - and they told me exactly that thing. So I can hope that I will hold a freed cellphone at last in my hands - surely for beta-fixing and testing. For my person to say, I use cellphones not so intensive for phoning. I prefer landline instead. So it is okay for me, that it has some alpha/beta-bugs. :) All good work out there! :) Regards, Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
given the intentional lack of a date from Openmoko officials I am a bit confused by the certainty of the date TRIsoft is advertising. [cutted] Apparently this does not work reliably. I just tried that (at ~17:00CEST) with the number 0800 8757638 in Germany and have been told that there is no connection for this number (Keine Verbindung unter dieser Telefonnummer). Hmmm, I tried the venity number 0800-TRISOFT and they where there... From my previous mail it was, as I said, some minutes ago. Maybe they have just setup the number? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Reseller
On Saturday, 22. March 2008, thomasg wrote: @Jan: Of course there is no connection for this number - the number is 0800 87*4* 7638. Oh, I didn't realize it so quickly. My phone has letters under the numbers printed. Anyway. Let's see what the future delivers to us... :D signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update, January 2, 2008
The bulk of the press release discusses the hardware features of GTA02, of which you are all well aware. Actually I do have one question coming from the press release -- it says: FreeRunner will come in two versions: a 850MHz tri-band and a 900Mhz tri-band. Does this mean that OpenMoko has officially committed to a US 850MHz version of GTA02? Will this version ship at the same time as the 900MHz version? Thanks, Roland ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 processor speed
Gizmodo quotes an Open Moko press release and mentions that the GTA02 has a 500 MHz processor - http://gizmodo.com/339965/openmoko-launches-neo-freerunner-open+source-smartphone-for-the-masses Yes: the original official press release on business wire (http://www.businesswire.com/news/google/20080103005343/en) states that the device will have a faster 500MHz processor. I would also be curious to know if this is a typo or if it really is the plan. - R. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Incorrect UPS tracking numbers?
I just got my Your order has shipped! email (yay!), but the UPS tracking number included showed a package signed for by Mike (not my name) in San Ramon, CA, (not where my address is). Did that happen to anyone else? Since I'm also in the San Francisco Bay area, I'm hoping my package will already be delivered too when I get home ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
