Re: Looking for a GTA02 debug board, preferably v3
rwr f rwr.4f4 at gmail.com writes: Title says it all. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community at lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I can send you one if you're living in Germany, robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA02 broken screen / What Nice Projekts to Do Without a Screen or Would Other Screens Work
Hi, unfortunately I the screen of my old GTA02 has stopped working (all white apart from a bit of pixel garbish at the bottom, also directly after booting). Now I know that you can get a replacement for about 80EUR. Even though this is still an option it is a bit expensive regarding the fact that the phone is now 6years old. The phone itself still works as I can ssh into QtMoko. So I have two questions a) did anyone ever manage to connect the phone to some other type of newer screen (eg to build an incar navigation system?) b) if I ever wanted install something new, how would I proceed only with ssh as a visual feedback (if at all): Qtmoko and SHR need the user to calibrate the screen inbetween, so I don't know where they will get stuck during installation. Maybe you can share your ideas on what to do with such a device. Many thanks and happy easter Robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko] running a script once usb-connection is detected
hi, thanks to radek I am now able to launch the voicerecorder from the aux button (see bellow). now I would like the recordings to be processed as soon as the phone realises that it has an internet connection via usb. can anyone help me if either there is a script which polls for the usb-connection where I could insert another command or what other solutions there might be. what I would like to do in the end is to be able a) to quickly record a messege (DONE) aI) increase recording volume just for the message (??) b) once I have an internet connection have the message translated by an online service c) add a section to my orgmode notes file with the translated message and, a link to the original wav file in case the translation is not good enough, and another link to a script which removes the file, once I do not need it anymore. best regards robin ps @ radek: what does the Suspend.service actually launch so you get the shutdown/restart menu? [Translation] File=QtopiaServices Context=Service:Name [Service] Icon=light-and-power/Light Name[]=Media Session /qtmoko/services/VoiceRecording/ CHANGING DEFAULT BEHAVIOUR OF THE AUX BUTTON -- nano /opt/qtmoko/etc/defaultbuttons.conf [Button0] HeldActionMessage=showRunningTasks() HeldActionService=TaskManager Key=F7 Name=Button PressedActionMessage=toggleRecording() PressedActionService=VoiceRecording the command is toggleRecording() you find it here: nano /opt/qtmoko/services/VoiceRecording.service [Translation] File=QtopiaServices Context=Voice Recorder [Service] Actions = toggleRecording();recordAudio(QDSActionRequest) Icon = recordaudio Name[]=Record [toggleRecording()] Icon = recordaudio Name[]=Record Audio ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko] customizing aux/power button or adding button to home screen
Hi, I would like to be able to access some programs in qtmoko faster, so my question is: Is there either a way to to run an app directly when you press the aux button and if so, how can I distinguish the length of a press (I know that the old android version did start three different processes depending on the length of time you pressed the power button (very short, ~2sec, ~4secs). and if this is all not possible, could someone point me to where I should start reading to be able to change/extend the homescreen, to add any icon with a call of that application I want to run. and even more advanced is there any chance of bind the this process somehow to a single icon: - Application - QX - Select Navit - Click upArrow in Menu - Click Launch many thanks, robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner GPIO locations
On 18 February 2014 15:22, Paul Wise pa...@bonedaddy.net wrote: any schematics out there with their location? ideally something which relates them to the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ These are the schematics I can find related to this: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA02v4/gpio.txt hi, yes, thanks for those, i have seen them already. they help, but don't enable me to relate the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ to anything on the board. the specific files in that directory are: gpiochip0 gpiochip160 gpiochip224 gpiochip416 gpiochip480 gpiochip96 gpio164 gpiochip128 gpiochip192 gpiochip32 gpiochip448 gpiochip64 how do those files relate/connect to the components and solder pads listed on the schematics? which point on the board would i solder to if i wanted to control, say, the gpio named gpio164, or gpiochip0? cheers, -- robin What the world needs now is love sweet love ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner GPIO locations
hi all, apologies if this question is answered elsewhere, i've done lots of searching of the openmoko wiki and the web, and can't find an answer i'd like to interface my freerunner with hardware switches to control some software. i believe gpio is the best way to do this, and have help from various bodies at my local maker space to do so. problem is, i can't locate the gpio pins on the motherboard. are there any schematics out there with their location? ideally something which relates them to the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ cheers, -- robin What the world needs now is love sweet love ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Resume bug on 2.6.39 kernel identified! (was QTMoko v55 GTA02 flash issue)
hi radek, thank for digging in so deep to find the bug. If I remove the ar6000 does that also mean that I will not be able to use wifi (that would be my guess)? and as an off topic question: if I remove btusb and bluetooth (as I am not using bluetooth at all) would this somehow interfere with qtmoko (eg are those modules expected to be present somewhere else?) best regards and as always: many thanks to you and the extended qtmoko development crew for keeping the GTA02 alive!!! robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko tethering
hi, I was just wondering if someone has managed to share a qtmoko-gsm connection via bluetooth to an android device. If so would you please share the steps necessary. best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko: stuck at no more processes left in this runlevel
that solved the issue! many thanks, best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko: stuck at no more processes left in this runlevel
the directory is there: #ls 2.6.34-qtmoko-v55 2.6.39-qtmoko-v58 # depmod # reboot did not work so I had a look at depmod and thought that the -a option might be what I need, that though expect something lice /etc/modules.conf which did not find, but I find /etc/modules: so I did this: # cat /etc/modules g_ether ppp_generic joydev bq27000_battery # depmod -a # shutdown -r now but still the same situtation: stoops at INIT no more processes left in this runlevel... any final ideas? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko: stuck at no more processes left in this runlevel
doing lsmod I get the following if that is of any help root@neo:~# lsmod Module Size Used by ipt_REJECT 1943 1 iptable_filter 958 1 ip_tables 9486 1 iptable_filter ip6t_REJECT 2294 1 xt_tcpudp 1921 2 ip6table_filter 905 1 ip6_tables 10341 1 ip6table_filter x_tables 11091 7 ip6_tables,ip6table_filter,xt_tcpudp,ip6t_REJECT,ip_tables,iptable_filter, ipt_REJECT bnep9360 2 rfcomm 30219 0 bluetooth 115208 10 rfcomm,bnep ipv6 234431 13 ip6t_REJECT nls_iso8859_1 3099 1 vfat8717 1 fat43504 1 vfat joydev 8333 0 ppp_generic19806 0 slhc4619 1 ppp_generic g_ether30661 0 s3c2410_udc11895 1 g_ether ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko: stuck at no more processes left in this runlevel
hi, i just did apt-get dist-upgrade and the install went fine. but now qtmoko get's stuck in the boot process at no more processes left in this runlevel. I can still ssh into the system, but don't know where to go from there to fix it if it is fixable. so if you have any suggestions on how to narrow down the problem (which logs to look at, ...) please let me know. best regards and thanks for such a great community including the extension via neo900! robin ps: and as always: MANY MANY THANKS TO RADEK FOR KEEPING THE GTA02 alive!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko: stuck at no more processes left in this runlevel
many thanks for the advice: this is what I am getting: root@neo:~# /etc/init.d/qtmoko-neo stop root@neo:~# . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env root@neo:/root# qpe NeoKbdDriverPlugin:create() Before call NeoKbdHandler() 56788 0 writeFile failed /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633- gpio/reg-fixed-voltage.1/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on : No such file or directory writeFile failed /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633- gpio/reg-fixed-voltage.1/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on : No such file or directory does this help in any way? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko: stuck at no more processes left in this runlevel
so apparently there is something wrong: # uname -r gives # 2.6.34-qtmoko-v55 so I got your kernel: # wget http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/debian/gta02/armel/linux-image-2.6.39- qtmoko-gta02_58-1_armel.deb and installed it: # dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.39-qtmoko-gta02_58-1_armel.deb but I still have the same situation: boot stops at INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel (installed on SD card if that makes any difference I checked # uname -r but I still got # 2.6.34-qtmoko-v55 so I went for: # dpkg -i --force-all ./linux-image-2.6.39-qtmoko-gta02_58-1_armel.deb (Reading database ... 28623 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace linux-image-2.6.39-qtmoko-gta02 58-1 (using .../linux- image-2.6.39-qtmoko-gta02_58-1_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement linux-image-2.6.39-qtmoko-gta02 ... Setting up linux-image-2.6.39-qtmoko-gta02 (58-1) ... but still no luck and I still have: root@neo:~# uname -r 2.6.34-qtmoko-v55 so how do I get that kernel updated? br robin ps: If I go # apt-get dist-upgrade I get # 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. so everything seems to be up to where it supposed to be? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko: stuck at no more processes left in this runlevel
booting in my case is from SD-Card. so how do I manage to have the right kernel being used? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko: stuck at no more processes left in this runlevel
thanks adrien, now I am a step further: #uname -r 2.6.39-qtmoko-v58 and if I do: root@neo:/boot# ls -l total 5300 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 866858 Mar 22 2013 System.map-2.6.34-qtmoko-v55 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 790690 Nov 29 16:28 System.map-2.6.39-qtmoko-v58 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 Mar 31 2013 append-GTA02 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 55004 Mar 22 2013 config-2.6.34-qtmoko-v55 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 60922 Nov 29 16:31 config-2.6.39-qtmoko-v58 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Mar 31 2013 uImage-GTA02.bin - uImage.bin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Dec 21 22:21 uImage.bin - uImage.bin-2.6.39-qtmoko-v58 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2166768 Mar 22 2013 uImage.bin-2.6.34-qtmoko-v55 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1449504 Nov 29 16:28 uImage.bin-2.6.39-qtmoko-v58 the only problem is that now I am stuck at the same screen as with the old kernel: INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel ; -( so if anyone of you has an idea what one can do please let me know (I will have to go to sleep pretty soon as my kids expect me to be up and going for christimas ;-) ) br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko: stuck at no more processes left in this runlevel
hi radek, I went back to your previous reply and issued the commands that you suggested. now this is the output with the newer kernel loaded: root@neo:~# . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env root@neo:/root# qpe NeoKbdDriverPlugin:create() Before call NeoKbdHandler() Cannot open input device for Headset Jack readFile failed /sys/class/power_supply/battery/status : No such file or directory 56788 0 QDBusObjectPath: invalid path Method call /-DefaultAdapter() failed: QDBusError(org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter, No such adapter) QDBusObjectPath: invalid path Method call /-DefaultAdapter() failed: QDBusError(org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter, No such adapter) QDBusObjectPath: invalid path Method call /-DefaultAdapter() failed: QDBusError(org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter, No such adapter) QDBusObjectPath: invalid path Method call /-DefaultAdapter() failed: QDBusError(org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter, No such adapter) QDBusObjectPath: invalid path Method call /-DefaultAdapter() failed: QDBusError(org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter, No such adapter) QDBusObjectPath: invalid path Method call /-DefaultAdapter() failed: QDBusError(org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter, No such adapter) QDBusObjectPath: invalid path Method call /-DefaultAdapter() failed: QDBusError(org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter, No such adapter) 0 snd_mixer_attach error -2 qpe: mixer.c:788: snd_mixer_first_elem: Assertion `mixer' failed. Aborted root@neo:/root# does this give you any hints on where this is going wrong? best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: navit in V55
hi matth, could you please provide a step by step explanation of solving the libcryptoproblem. many thanks. robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
how can I determine the package version in the original qtmoko*.tar.gz
hi, I have the problem that I cannot connect to my wpa secured network after I upgraded wpasupplicant. now I know the original version of the wpasupplicant so I downloaded it. by trying simply to downgrade I had the following error: wpasupplicant : Depends: libpcsclite1 (= 1.8.6) but 1.8.4-1 is installed which is somewhat strange as the original qtmoko v55 tar.gz comes with the wpasupplicant 1.0-3? so how was it able to be installed as there is no 1.8.4-1 version of libpcsclite1 available in wheezy? Arne pointed me in the right direction to get a higher version so I got libpcsclite1_1.8.6-4_armel.deb and this installed fine with wpasupplicant 1.0-3 but unfortunately I still cannot connect to my network which I was able to do right after the initial installation of qtmoko v55. So I am still a bit puzzled: a) how could the wpasupplicant (1.0-3) be installed originally without the libpcsclite1 = 1.8.6 being available in wheezy b) why is the standard downgrade not working Is there a way to see what package version libpcslite1 had by browsing the qtmoko v55 tar.gz? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko wifi wpa problem after upgrade wpasupplicant 1.0-3 to 1.0-3+b1
Hi, I pretty much went one by one through the packages given after a apt-get dist-upgrade (on qtmoko v55). I knew from my other freerunner that the wifi breaks at some point (WPA TKIP). Now I have identified the problem with the upgrade from wpasupplicant Preparing to replace wpasupplicant 1.0-3 (using .../wpasupplicant_1.0-3+b1_armel.deb) I have searched on the debian page but there is only the +b1 package for armel. maybe someone can help me to get hold of a wpasupplicant 1.0-3 deb package so I could downgrade. the old one from squeeze has too many dependency issues. best regards and many thanks robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko wifi wpa problem after upgrade wpasupplicant 1.0-3 to 1.0-3+b1
many thank! unfortunately the 1.0-3 now all of a sudden asks for wpasupplicant : Depends: libpcsclite1 (= 1.8.6) but 1.8.4-1 is installed which is nowhere available ... I guess I will have to go for a complete reinstall :-( but many thanks for your quick help. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko videoplayer
if I run via ssh -X everything is fine (the output is pasted below)
if I run via qmplayer I get only the sound but no video (instead about
a quarter of the background image is displayed).
here is the output from the
ssh -X
is there a way I can get the output from qmplayer?
root@neo:~# /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env
root@neo:~# mplayer /media/card/Ch2_TaijiBailongBall_DVD2010_h264_mp3.mkv
MPlayer svn r34540 (Debian), built with gcc-4.6 (C) 2000-2012 MPlayer Team
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
Playing /media/card/Ch2_TaijiBailongBall_DVD2010_h264_mp3.mkv.
libavformat version 53.21.1 (external)
Mismatching header version 53.19.0
libavformat file format detected.
[matroska,webm @ 0x40c4c558]Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be
inaccurate
[lavf] stream 0: video (h264), -vid 0
[lavf] stream 1: audio (mp3), -aid 0
VIDEO: [H264] 320x240 0bpp 29.970 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
Load subtitles in /media/card/
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
VO XOverlay need a subdriver
[VO_SDL] SDL initialization failed: Unable to open mouse.
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
vo: couldn't open the X11 display ()!
notice: Can't open /dev/tty: No such device or address
==
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
libavcodec version 53.35.0 (external)
Mismatching header version 53.32.2
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==
==
Requested audio codec family [mpg123] (afm=mpg123) not available.
Enable it at compilation.
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 1 ch, floatle, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000-192000)
Selected audio codec: [ffmp3float] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG layer-3 audio)
==
AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused
Failed to initialize audio driver 'pulse'
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 1ch floatle (4 bytes per sample)
Starting playback...
Unsupported PixelFormat 61
Unsupported PixelFormat 53
Unsupported PixelFormat 81
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
[swscaler @ 0x40b6b978]No accelerated colorspace conversion found from
yuv420p to rgb565le.
[swscaler @ 0x40b6b978]using unscaled yuv420p - rgb565le special converter
VO: [fbdev] 320x240 = 320x240 BGR 16-bit
A: 3.7 V: 1.7 A-V: 2.040 ct: 0.033 0/ 0 54% 87% 88.2% 50 0
Your system is too SLOW to play this!
Possible reasons, problems, workarounds:
- Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver
- Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA.
- Experiment with different values for -autosync, 30 is a good start.
- Slow video output
- Try a different -vo driver (-vo help for a list) or try -framedrop!
- Slow CPU
- Don't try to play a big DVD/DivX on a slow CPU! Try some of the lavdopts,
e.g. -vfm ffmpeg -lavdopts lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all.
- Broken file
- Try various combinations of -nobps -ni -forceidx -mc 0.
- Slow media (NFS/SMB mounts, DVD, VCD etc)
- Try -cache 8192.
- Are you using -cache to play a non-interleaved AVI file?
- Try -nocache.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html for tuning/speedup tips.
If none of this helps you, read DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html.
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Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
this is indeed well said, but also points out how feeble mankind is ... the problem I see is even if you can convince someone that this is the only strategy to follow, they won't be able to buy a device at a price they are willing to accept (even when they are told that production in small numbers is the cause of this). my guess is that for phone to be a success it would at least need the standard basic features such as pinch zooming, easy wifi connection, and a good browser. writing a text message currently needs three click to get you to the input screen and another six clicks until you can actually send it after you have entered your content. I am using the freerunner since 2008 and am still convinced with the gta04 the community has come a great step forward, but the rest of the electronic world is developing so fast that it seems almost impossible to keep up (especially with the high costs due to the small demand). personally I think only fundraiser, maybe with a big partner, would work to get it down to a price where the every day user would be willing to switch and maybe qtmoko/shr could somehow bundle up with the plasma active team to have nice and shiny features at hand which make the phone stick out. nevertheless many thanks for bringing this project so far! it certainly already has one of the best communities (eg rhn organized a 3g stick for me in Poland without even knowing me more than from a couple of posts on the mailinglist. who else can report such a thing from his/her community) br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko videoplayer
hi, I try to watch some video on qtmoko using qmplayer but I only have audio. I tried h264, mpeg2, mpeg4, vp3 but always the same result: audio only the aspect ratio is standard 320x240 and I installed the glamo version of mplayer when being asked for the first time. in case I would need the other mplayer version, how could I revert? best regards rboin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko videoplayer
what actually works: ssh -X root@192.168.0.202 mplayer movie.mvk this results in the movie being played on the freerunner screen. Apparently also other sizes and aspect ratios than 320x240 work fine. any help appreciated to get this working with a native qtmoko app. robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v55 for Freerunner upgraded to wheezy
hi radek, thanks a lot again for the new gta02 version. what is the best way to do a clean upgrade (transferring sms and contacts?) if I remember correctly one can send the contacts to onself via email and then clicking on the mail would import them. is this still correct? do alternative options exist? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v55 for Freerunner upgraded to wheezy
hi, I tried to run navit (installed directly from qtmoko apps) but it instantaneously crashes. what is the best way to get the logs? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v55 for Freerunner upgraded to wheezy
I have a wpa psk secured network at home and everything worked out of the box. Many thanks for keeping the GTA02 image of qtmoko alive!!! br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTmoko Wireless
Greetings, I currently revived my Openmoko, installed QTmoko V55 and was impressed; coming near to a useful distribution. As concerns the Wireless (WLAN) option: 1. How do I switch off a connection? 2. Is it on purpose that activating the WLAN stops the USB network access? That's one reason to be able to switch of WLAN. I had the same issue. so a half-way solution which works is to ssh into your phone via the wifi ip address (not so convenient, but it works br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIKI is in read-only mode?
I fully agree. I will eventually turn my GTA02 into a GTA04 but my wife still has here GTA02. I think it would be good to have a GTAXX wiki with common stuff and tags for stuff just applying to GTA02 or GTA04 robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: offtopic / help needed from anyone in poland
hi Patryk, thanks a lot for your offer. I am in contact with rhn now, so I hope this will all work out! but who else can say to be part of such a great community! best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
offtopic / help needed from anyone in poland
Hi List, sorry to post this here, but I otherwise do not have any idea who else to contact. I have purchased the archos g9 as plasma active does kind of run on it which is a nice step forward for a linux tablet (eventually I would prefer one with the gta04 in it). now archos apparently has huge issues in producing the 3g modem, so it is sold out anywhere in europe. Now my I have just found this offer from Poland [1]. I do not speak Polish, neither do I know if that site is genuine. So if anyone could help me here that would be great. best regards robin [1] http://www.mediamarkt.pl/krakow-m1/produkty.html?query=Modem+ARCHOS+3G+Stick ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: offtopic / help needed from anyone in poland
thanks a lot anyway. Maybe there is someone on the list who lives somewhat closer ... br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: offtopic / help needed from anyone in poland
great, I just wrote to you a private message. looking forward to hearing from you. best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Navit package
maybe have a look here: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:Cs and http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community /62878/match=navit br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Navit package
hi radek, if I remember correctly navit on the gta04 can also use the serial device as nmea input directly, so in that case gpsd isn't needed anymore (if that makes things easier). br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
new qtmoko image for gta02?
hi, I saw that the modification date of the qtmoko folder gta02 changed has changed recently, but within that folder there are no new builds (yet?). br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko calendar
Hi Adrien,
thanks for this very handy tool. It works almost perfectly with my ics calender
I export from orgmode. there is just one minor thing: it fails if I have a date
on -07-31 which as far as I checked my calendar does actually exist:
for the error I found the following bug [1] on the internet with the solution to
set the database datestyle like:
ALTER DATABASE bugzilla SET datestyle = 'iso, dmy';
is this also possible with the qtopia database?
this is the output I get
Prepare the appointment recid=248
description=Bruno Brezinas %d. Geburtstag
startDate=1945-07-31T00:00:00
startDateTimeZone=
The 'day' parameter (0) to DateTime::set did not pass the 'an integer which
is a possible valid day of month' callback
at /usr/lib/perl5/DateTime.pm line 1875
DateTime::set(undef, 'day', 0) called at /usr/lib/perl5/DateTime.pm
line 1886
DateTime::set_day('DateTime=HASH(0x8f2618)', 0) called at
./ics2qtcal.pl line 107
main::extractDateFromIcalLine('ARRAY(0xa00790)', 1) called at
./ics2qtcal.pl line 260
best regards
robin
[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620346
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Re: new qtmoko image for gta02?
thanks for your explanation! robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko v52
as long as it is stable I would prefer the gta04 system on gta02, as I would imagine that this reduces the additional effort you already have to build against gta02 as well. if one would remove all the preinstalled apps from qtmoko apart from the basic phone ones, how big would such a release be including the pulseaudio setup? if it was small enough maybe you could release that one and then on only installs the apps one needs via apt-get or dpkg or some script, so people could still have a backup qtmoko sitting in their nand. br and thanks to all the developers how make this live! robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Install latest navit on qtmoko without gpsd / GTA02
if the buildhost which can address 1gb ram builds much faster I would like to ask you to upload it so I could use that one instead. I will try to summarize what I have understood, so please correct me if I am wrong: 1.) get the buildhost to be able to compile 2.) compile qtmoko-base-system either for gta04 or gta02 with the version you want (eg v51) 3.) compile navit package, which automatically checks out the latest svn if you just want a newer version of navit, but your qtmoko-base-system version has not changed since your last build just do 3.) what would I have to do if I wanted to have one gta04 build and one gta02 build on the same machine? will they automatically have different paths? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Install latest navit on qtmoko without gpsd / GTA02
#Maybe this is of interest to some of you. If you want a more recent version of #navit you may do the following. The QtMoko QX b) solution removes the needs for #gpsd as the serial output can be used by navit directly. It only worked with #one baudrate though and I don't know if or how this would influence the max # speed at which navit would process nmea. SOLVED for SHR / QtMoko QX UNSOLVED for QtMoko without QX thanks for all your answers, here is my summary SHR (not tested): get the latest package and install with opkg http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/ (maybe you have to backup your navit.xml beforehand?) QtMoko (QX only): a) via navit from wheezy instead of squeeze (not tested) echo deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy main /etc/apt/sources.list sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get build-dep navit apt-get --build source navit (maybe you have to backup your navit.xml beforehand?) b) by building navit from source without gpsd (tested, works) ### ASSUMPTIONS: ## your map is in /media/card/Maps/Navit/ ## in the end you have to UNCHECK THE ENABLE GPS TOGGLE in the QX ... ## ... Settings for Navit!!! I don't know how this is done automatically ## Please read through the script before just copy and pasting! ## exectute PARTS I - III one after the other ## INITIAL SETUP ## ### PART I ## backup your old navit.xml cp /usr/share/navit/navit.xml /media/card/Maps/Navit ## uninstall gpsd apt-get purge gpsd espeak apt-get autoremove ## create new navit launcher script cat /usr/bin/navit.custom.sh EOF #!/bin/bash xset -dpms xset s off /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweron.sh navit /opt/qtmoko/bin/gps-poweroff.sh xset +dpms xset s on EOF ## make it execuatable chmod a+x /usr/bin/navit.custom.sh ## create desktop entry for new navit cat /usr/share/applications/navit.desktop EOF [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Name=Navit Name[de]=Navit Name[fr]=Navit Comment=The open source vector based navigation program with routing engine Comment[de]=Ein vektorbasiertes Navigationsprogramm Comment[fr]=Le logiciel opensource de navigation vectorielle Exec=navit.custom.sh Icon=navit StartupNotify=true Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=GTK;Utility;Geography; GenericName=Navit GenericName[de]=Navit EOF ## install newest navit rm /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit-current.tar.gz cd /media/card/Maps/Navit wget http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-current.tar.gz cd / tar -xzvf /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit-current.tar.gz rm /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit-current.tar.gz ## backup the newest original navit file for comparison /merging cp /usr/share/navit/navit.xml /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit.xml.orig ### PART II ### EDIT the /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit.xml to your needs as this one ### will be used later on ## you can use diffuse to compare the files locally and then copy the ## merged file back ### PART III ## restore your navit.xml cp /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit.xml /usr/share/navit/navit.xml ## make sure your vehicle uses the serial: sed -e 's/source=gpsd://localhost gpsd_query=w+xj/source=file: /dev/ttySAC1 baudrate=9600 follow=1 /g' /usr/share/navit/navit.xml /usr/share/navit/navit.xml ## update the map to your map which can have any name but must lie in /media/card/Maps/Navit/ echo 'map type=binfile enabled=yes data=/media/card/Maps/Navit/*.bin/' /usr/share/navit/maps/osm_bbox_11.3,47.9,11.7,48.2.xml ## UNCHECK THE ENABLE GPS TOGGLE in the QX Settings for Navit!!! I don't ## know how this is done automatically if the inital setup worked and you just want to update ## UPDATING SETUP ## ## backup your old navit.xml ### PART I cp /usr/share/navit/navit.xml /media/card/Maps/Navit ## install newest navit rm /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit-current.tar.gz cd /media/card/Maps/Navit wget http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-current.tar.gz cd / tar -xzvf /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit-current.tar.gz rm /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit-current.tar.gz ## backup the newest original navit file for comparison /merging cp /usr/share/navit/navit.xml /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit.xml.orig ### PART II ### EDIT the /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit.xml to your needs as this one ### will be used later on ### PART III ## restore your navit.xml cp /media/card/Maps/Navit/navit.xml /usr/share/navit/navit.xml ## update the map to your map echo 'map type=binfile enabled=yes data=/media/card/Maps/Navit/*.bin/' /usr/share/navit/maps/osm_bbox_11.3,47.9,11.7,48.2.xml ## update the desktop file sed -e 's/Exec=navit/Exec=navit.custom.sh/g' /usr/share/applications /navit.desktop /usr/share/applications/navit.desktop br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Install latest navit on qtmoko without gpsd / GTA02
hi Radek, could you quickly explain how your qtmoko-native navit differs from navit which runs under qtmoko-qx. in the end it would be much nicer, if one can update the sources but not have to use qx to run it. with the current setup under qx I can at least make use of your agps scripts, which is nice for getting a fast fix! br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
true, but there are a lot of GTA02 users and there is stuff on the wiki which is important to GTA02 and GTA04. I wouldn't mind, if it was hosted at gta04.org but if I remember correctly gta04.org was only supposed to contain information on openphoenux robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
if the wiki can indeed be transferred, maybe you can do an official posting on who would like to apply for write access. I would certainly like to tidy up a couple of pages and add more recent information, but reading the gmane list there are many others willing to do so as well. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Install latest navit on qtmoko without gpsd / GTA02
which version of qtmoko will one be building if one clones your git tree? always the latest one (no matter if latest is stable or experimental) depending on the device? I would guess eg as GTA02 and GTA04 builds are at the moment quite different that this would affect the building of the navit package as well. So if this correct will we have separate packages of navit for GTA02/GTA04? Where do you configure it that if you use dpkg-buildpackage to build navit that navit automatically gets the latest svn version to build? regarding uploding qemu buildhost, would it then be easy to keep that one in sync with your git tree? If yes, this is a good idea for entry level people like me, if not, I would rather try to build it from scratch once my wife has cleaned our harddrive to allow debian squeeze to reside in a virtual box. best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered
maybe I have misunderstood then. From your initial response I understood that the gps receiver of the gta04a4 would have a lower sampling frequency than the gps receiver of the gta04a5 due to some hardware wiring and as I you stated in the gta04a5 anouncement the gta04a5 can provide now with the hardware fix a * the GPS receiver can provide a 1 second impulse interrupt to the CPU so my conclusion was that the gta04a4 cannot sample at with 1Hz but must be slower. I haven't had the time to change my gta02 to an gta04 so I could not test the difference myself, but I remember reading the thread [1] it was re- ported that the gta02 gps was capable to sample at much higher rates (4Hz standard, max 20Hz reported). Sampling at 1Hz at 60km/h means an update every ~17m which in most navigation situations should be ok, but if you have complex crossings with more than two alternative lanes then the lag becomes a problem. best regards robin [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/62642 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered
could you explain which of the changes will also be able for the GTA04A4 boards. clearly hardware changes wont be there, but is eg the GPS Sampling frequency possible for older GTA04s via a patch? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered
hi, so at what frequency is the gps signal being processed currently with the gta04a4? if I remember correctly the gta02 had 5Hz sampling frequency? if it was lower for the current gta04a4 than 5Hz is there any possibility that this will change or will I have to live with a more modern phone but worse GPS reception? this is an important question to me as GPS is one of the main uses I have for my phone. thanks for your explanations, robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko keyboard focus enhancement
hi, in case someone finds this useful as well: to make the keys in qtmoko keyboard more distinguishable I changed the background to a checkboard like one: alternating between style=fill:#00;fill-opacity:0.76862745;stroke:none / and style=fill:#2d2d2d;fill-opacity:0.76862745;stroke:none / I would have uploaded the german ones I am using on the openmoko wiki, but due to the excessive spam I guess one cannot edit anything anymore... example images are on scaplinux: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ best regards robin ps in case you are interested please let me know and I mail them to you directly. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ubuntu / Firefox OS for Openmoko
Hi I guess parts of the answer to the question are already spread through this thread: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/62745 Generally speaking I think having an option to what runs on a device is heaven, but only if you are a developer or interested in linux and are willing to have some rough edges or at least have someone who can help out; I say this as my parents and parents in law both run linux and they don't miss anything, but I can also solve most of their problems. The biggest problem I see with the GTA04 is the very limited amount of active developers and the reliability of the distri- butions. I don't think it can handle much more losses on the developer side or it would simply die (as Christoph stated currently there is only one preorder for a GTA05...). I think it is a good decision of the developers to keep supporting the GTA02s as much as they can, as these are the closest users to go for a GTA04. I though still think there could be a demand eg: - as a high security level phone (I know from a big German pharamceutical company that they had banned the iphone for a long time due to security reasons (they took blackberries; I don't know if they are better)), but the phone would have to be rock stable and I guess if you would need to be able to a couple of standard android apps to make the buisinessmen's live better - as a very specific extensible device: we recently had some nice projects reported; one was for monitoring aircrafts, another for home automatisation. So I think if we had a nice looking web page with very curious projects like you find it for rasperry or arduino people might start thinking about investing 555EUR. - a phone for the elderly? why not. make the telephony part rock solid, have nice big buttons and have some features which allows them to chat with their grandsons (maybe jitsi could replace facetime), and add some advance bring me home feature. in the talk from openplanb[1] which is involved in freeing public transport data, there was one statment when an elderly couple got stuck late at night in the middle of Berlin and wanted to go home but no public transport would get them there, so they asked the very appropriate question, what would bring them closest and eg have a taxi waiting. but there is no app for this currently on any operating system. so somegthing like this might get them to spend 555EUR. these are just my 2cents from someone who is really taken to be part of such a great community and has learned a lot but has also some fear that there may be an end to this. br robin [1] http://openplanb.tumblr.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] power off GSM?
did you also try just to echo -en AT at POFF\r /dev/ttySAC0 without setting the modem to dummy beforehand? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] power off GSM?
in this thread http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/62092 someone said he had woods mode active which as far as I understood is the mode with the modem turned off. maybe you can contact him and share his solution with us on the list. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: possible to use wifi and usb networking at the same time? (qtmoko)
hi Ed, thanks for your reply. in the end was easy, just use wifi through the internal network... my setup us a rather standard setup I guess: Desktop (OpenSuse) - Freerunner via USB, ssh OK, Masquerading apparently not Desktop - Router via LAN Freerunner - Router via Wifi Freerunner - Desktop via Wifi, ssh without problems. But as this was so easy, it was now definetly the time to set up a root password on the freerunner... br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: possible to use wifi and usb networking at the same time? (qtmoko)
Paul Wise pabs3 at bonedaddy.net writes: Thats a bug in QtMoko's network setup, it seems to take full control of the kernel's networking setup without asking the kernel what networks are setup already and should remain. It also needs to be aware that not all network interfaces are managed by the QtMoko network UI. You can work around it by starting the USB network from a terminal after starting the WiFi. Run ifup usb0 if using ifupdown for the USB connection (which is the default on Debian). That will give you two default routes because ifupdown also doesn't pay attention to existing kernel network state, but you will still be able to login. If USB is not connected or not forwarding connections then you may need to delete the extra default route to connect to the Internet though: ip route del default via 192.168.0.200 dev usb0 hi paul, is this bug also causing the network interface on the freerunner to change type once in a while. Sometimes my usb/ssh connection fails and if I then go to the setup of my network I see that there is a new interface on the freerunner which hasn't been configured yet and the one which previously was working stopped doing so. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
possible to use wifi and usb networking at the same time? (qtmoko)
hi I somehow messed up my routing, so I can no longer access the internet/router from my freerunner (ping 192.168.0.200 works 192.168.0.1 (router) doesn't anymore). Now I thought as long as I can log in via ssh from my desktop I could still access the internet from my phone, by powering on wifi. BUT as soon as the wifi connection is up (and actually permits me to access the internet) my usb connection dies... so I was wondering if there is a setup, where you can just ssh into your phone power up wifi (maybe even from command line) and still have fully functional usb access to the phone. best regards and happy new year robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 boot without battery
hi ben, sounds like a very interesting and useful project for an old freerunner board. Do you have a blog set up to follow your steps/success? that would be great. best regards and happy new year you and this extremely innovative community! robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery
as far as I know, all lithium-ion batteries wear over time, also if you just pile them up in your wardrobe. temperature seems to be an issue and if they have ever deep discharged which is somehow damaging them. so I don't know if the intelligence in the original batteries has some algorythm to recover which would make it still preferable to any cheap rebuild. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 power death
I hope you can bring the board back to life! Best of luck for that. How satisfied were you with the battery (lifetime / decrease in storage capacitance over time?) as it seems to be quite a good bargain. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
newer navit on qtmoko (shr?)
hi as navit is available for both the debian-squeeze and qtmoko directly but only in rather old versions I was wondering how much expertise it takes to build newer packages of one/both of them. So if it was not too complex I would like to pick it up an publish newer version which I will then try to build on a server. So if you have any script/idea on how to do so, please let me know and I can try (eventually I will have a GTA02 and a GTA04 at home, so I would like to build them for both if it makes a difference (eg armhf)). best regards robin ps: I am all but an expert building packages, so I might need a bit more detailed help. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to detect the QtMoko Version which is actually installed
hi, I have a minute problem/question: I would like to know what qtmoko version is actually installed on my phone. I did upgrade to v48.1 using the debian package, but now if I open the SystemInfoApp it still shows me v46 which was the original version I flashed using dfu-utils. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: newer navit on qtmoko (shr?)
thanks for the link. do you know if there is a simple way for dpkg to handle opk files? I tried but got the expected(!) error: dpkg: error processing ./navit-current_armv4t.opk (--install): package architecture (armv4t) does not match system (armel) Errors were encountered while processing: ./navit-current_armv4t.opk I will now try to see if installing the tar.gz version is straight forward to be handled within qtmoko. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to detect the QtMoko Version which is actually installed
I guess it is 48-1 and only the system information is not updated after upgrading the deb file root@neo:~# dpkg -la | grep qtmoko ii linux-image-2.6.34-qtmoko-gta02 48-1 Linux 2.6.34 kernel image for Openmoko GTA02 Neo FreeRunner ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 5Hz GPS operation using the GTA04 ?
I reread the thread to see if anyone could actually answer the question if the gta04 can do more than the very low 1Hz sampling, but am I right that this has not been answered and as you pointed out the datasheet currently only speculates about 5Hz in the future? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pictures of new alu case
any ideas on wood, rather than wool? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pictures of new alu case
does anyone know how different materials (wood, steel, plastic, alu) influence modem reception (gsm / gps)? robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko
hi radek, thanks for pointing me there. please excuse my ignorance, but I have never build/compiled libraries myself beforehand. If my guess is correct after building one would have a new library ./opt/qtmoko/lib/libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4 with the AT commands and new return values integrated. is this easy to do and if so could you or anyone on the list give me a hint eg - clone that part of the githubtree, - change the code - compile (on the phone directly I guess and if possible as I think I would run into many troubles if setting up a whole build-environment) - try it out thanks a lot robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko
ok, I will give this a try... as Xmas is coming up there should be enough time to learn how to do this. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko
I tried the excuting root@neo:~# /opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer /opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer: error while loading shared libraries: libqtopiagfx.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I searched for qtopia but did not find anything specific for libqtopiagfx. robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko
root@neo:/# LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/qtmoko/lib root@neo:/# export LD_LIBRARY_PATH did do the job. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko
/opt/qtmoko/bin/vsexplorer is very nice indeed. so no problem anymore in getting the the cell id and lac directly. Now I looked a bit into the other values which can be returned as well. What I did not find is anything on tav - timing advance / main cell only - fixed radius from main cell in steps of 555m rxlev - signal strength / all cells - triangulation and in general anything on how one can access the current neighbours. So are all the values vsexplorer provides standard qtopia values, and the ones I am looking for are currently not implemented or did anyound (eg you radek) write the software to get this data in addition to the standard qtopia stack? In either case has anyone an idea if the variables I am looking for can be implemented in qtmoko as well as it has been done with fso? personally I would like to stick to the standard way qtmoko handles its modem and not change to fso as I always had much complaints in shr about the audio quality. robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko: how is long Power key press (= shutdown/restart menu) handled?
sounds reasonable to me +1 robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko
the AT commands are: AT%EM=2,2 Serving Cell GPRS Information AT%EM=2,3 Neighbour Cell Information but how do I pass those to the modem? or rather how do I slip those commands to qtmoko inbetween so I will still be able to receive calls? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko
dear neil, thanks for your answer. the reason I wanted to try sending commands to the modem directly is that I have problems setting up my gprs connection with qtmoko. Now I have found one site http://www.gsmsite.de/gprs.htm where they state the AT-commands for manual modem configuration. So I wanted to try those out. Now I have found to the packages which is needed to be able to execute cu which is uucp. Now I can apparently connect to the modem with cu -l /dev/ttySAC0 as I get a connected statement printed on the screen after having set the right permissions. Then the whole terminal freezes, but not the phone. So I won't be able to send any AT commands. I guess this might be be explained by your answer: there can be only one for modem access... On the other hand I think that the openbmap logger and cellhunter allow to scan your main cell and neighbour cells and allow you to make calls as well, whilst they run (even though they might not do their scanning during the call). Generally speaking I would like to a) turn the modem off completely if I want to do GPS tracking only to save power b) scan main and neighbour cells and still be able to receive calls to bring my little progress on gsm-location also to qtmoko (works kind of in shr) c) try to send some at commands to see if I can do something to get my gprs working in qtmoko/shr so if anyone has some hints/ideas, please let me know. best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko: how is long Power key press (= shutdown/restart menu) handled?
this would be nice to know so maybe something like short press - suspend medium press - ??? eg favourite program long press - shutdown/menu could be implemented. If I remember correctly android on freerunner has these three states for the power button. robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko
Dear Radek, can you pass something like AT%EM=2,2 Serving Cell GPRS Information AT%EM=2,3 Neighbour Cell Information to minicom and get back the answer, so I could do somthing like this from my python prorgram: -- import subprocess neighbour_info_call = AT%EM=2,2 neighbour_info = subprocess.check_output(neigbourg_info_call, shell=True) print neighbour_info -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to access the modem in QtMoko
hi neil, openbmap and cellhunter use fso to access the modem, and at least in openbmaps code I have found a bit which checks if the modem is used by some other process and if not allows you to do the scanning of the main and neighbour cells. even if this becomes a bit off topic now, regarding the gsm-based location I am working on, I think that something similar could/must exist in qtmoko to get this information as already with mokofaen we have the lac and cellid of the serving cell being displayed on the home screen. this information already gives you a circular area around the serving cell where your phone is currently located in steps of 555m; so that is not too bad for a start. having neighbours or even being able to connect to other operators using roaming but to get their nearest cell would be the best and easiest way to narrow the position down even more. --- so this is the part where I am wondering how to access this information in qtmoko, also if possible via at commands and getting the return information processed by python, which is not as nicely as with fso but it should work. for my other intends on how to investigate further why gprs is not working for my freerunner it would nonetheless be nice to have a simple way to try at commands. and in the end just use at commands to eg save power by shuting the modem down if you go to bed and don't want to be disturbed but still have a phone which wakes you up, as suspend in qtmoko works only from suspend mode only but not from turned off mode (some time delay problem). best regards and many thanks to you and radek as well and the other developers who do an amazing job (qtmoko/shr/androdi) + golden del for having the guts to go for a gta04!!! robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko: how is long Power key press (= shutdown/restart menu) handled?
Neil Jerram neil at ossau.homelinux.net writes: robin spielraum at web.de writes: this would be nice to know so maybe something like short press - suspend We already have the lock icon for lock and suspend, so I'm not sure why we need this on the power key as well. Perhaps because you're thinking of wanting to suspend when looking at some application, and aren't on the home page? medium press - ??? eg favourite program long press - shutdown/menu Those are what we already have. Personally I'm not sure I could reliably distinguish between 3 press lengths... Neil I quite like being able to bring the phone back from suspend with a quick press on the powerbutton, checking what time it is and then sending it back to suspend with another quick press on the power button (but this is the standard way qtmoko does it if I am not being mistaken, or in which state does qtmoko turn if I just do a quick press on the power button; I thought it goes to suspend?!?). As the freerunner has only two hardware buttons and the aux button is reported to break sometimes, it might be a good idea to have three press duration specific settings for the power button. One idea could also be to have something like this as standard: a) 1s - suspend b) 1s 4s - show shutdown/reboot dialog c) 4s - show shutdown/reboot dialog and this behaviour being read from a text config file. so anyone who needs the b) slot to do something differently could just change it to fit his/her needs. best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to access the modem in QtMoko
how do I communicate directly with the modem on /dev/ttySAC0? Is there some easy eg python wrapper to communicate with the modem as eg in shr? For the direct acces I tried cu -l /dev/ttySAC0 as it is stated on the openmoko wiki site but I get 'cu command not found'. does anyone know which package I have to install and if it is still necessary to do chown uucp.uucp /dev/ttySAC0 to be able to access the modem? thank for your help robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
setting up gprs properly
I am trying to set up my gprs in both shr and qtmoko. unfortunately I do not get a data connection with neither of them. I am using blau.de and according to their website there are either APN: internet.eplus.de Username: blau Passwort: blau Authentifizierungstyp: PAP so I wonder if the authentication might be a problem, as I have not found a place to set it specifically. then they have a specific access if you want to do tethering (I haven't quite understood how this is different to the first one: APN/ Zugangspunkt: internet.eplus.de -- Datenträger - Datadrive: Paketdaten - Packagedata -- IP-Adresse: dynamisch -- Benutzername: eplus -- Passwort: gprs but still no success. If I set it up with qtmoko I get the little G icon on the homescreen. If I then click on start the icon becomes a filled G for a microsecond, before going back to the unfilled/unconnected state. Any hints, also how I can investigate this? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel panic on Freerunner QtMoko boot
I have qi installed. So how can I go to jiffs in nand if I have qtmoko residing on the sd-card? pressing the aux button after a short vibration during the first seconds of booting? as far as I remember my cumbersome way of booting jiffs in nand was the only way to do it, but I mighbt be mistaken. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kernel panic on Freerunner QtMoko boot
you can try the jffs from SHR, that's what I do. I flash them to nand with dfu-utils. then you shutdown the freerunner, hold the aux button and simulataneuously press the powerbutton, to get the boot menu. then you press power once again and it should hopefully start shr from nand. in this way you could also check if your sd-card is recocgnized. I had this once, that I had to clean the contacts of the sd-card before it was recocgnized and there- fore a boot from sd (Qtmoko) was possible. best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
I think I will give this a try. I looked at the source of the sqlite file, and you can easily get the location. Is there any easy way to get the area the cell covers as a polygon, so we can check for intersections as you suggested? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
Sounds good. I wonder what the trade-off is between implementing something like this from scratch for GTA04, and trying to integrate an existing partial solution such as GeoClue? hi neil, as far as I understand geoclue comprises a communication between a provider and your phone, so that would mean data transfer via the modem. This would certainly be one solution, but it would be nice if the user could choose between: a) GSM - Provider - Location b) GSM - offline database - Location (saves money and battery(?)) I don't know if geoclue can be easily extended to use the cells.txt.gz file as an alternative input. That would be nice, because then one could actually choose between a) and b). So I started with step 1 and I am a bit stuck. The numbers for the location that the Mokofaen theme displays somehow do not match any of the cell towers my phone is most likely to be connected to: Most likely I am connected to mcc 262; mnc 3; lac 40096 and cellid 137380532 [2] How do you get those numbers? They look like UMTS ones (which are bigger than GSM). which has nowhere the numbers I get on my home screen: 296/25326 Those numbers look like GSM. Are you actually connected by GSM or by UMTS? (Some background on the GSM/UMTS difference is here: http://lists.goldelico.com/pipermail/gta04-owner/2012-September/002923.html) Thanks for pointing me to the link / I vaguely remembered reading something about this on the list. I also found the gsm-cell which corresponds to my numbers so all fine. Regarding the consistency of the databases one apparently has to be a bit careful. I checked the cells around me with the openbmap map interface, and there are certainly cells marked as standard GSM which have to be UMTS cells according to the long numbers they have for their idenfication. But I would think that this would only matter, if their signal strength rate/decay over distance is different from the GSM cells. Then one would indeed need to know what cell type it is to apply the correct function to estimate the distance to it. Otherwise the more cells the better it should be. Could you point me in the right direction on how to extract the cell and neighbouring cell ids/signal strengths in qtmoko. br roibn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
hi daniele, maybe you can help me with your code: what I get import dbus from dbus.mainloop.glib import DBusGMainLoop DBusGMainLoop(set_as_default=True) bus = dbus.SystemBus() gsm_device_obj = bus.get_object( 'org.freesmartphone.ogsmd', '/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device' ) gsm_cell_monitor = dbus.Interface(gsm_device_obj, 'org.freesmartphone.GSM.Monitor') gsm_connected_cell = gsm_cell_monitor.GetServingCellInformation() lac = int(gsm_connected_cell[lac]) cellid = int(gsm_connected_cell[cid]) quality = int(gsm_connected_cell[rxlev]) print - Information about the Connected Cell -- print str(lac)+ / +str(cellid)+ / +str(quality) gsm_neighbour_cells = gsm_cell_monitor.GetNeighbourCellInformation() print gsm_neighbour_cells I can now get the info about the connected cell but for the neighbours I get: root@om-gta02:~# python /media/card/Maps/Cells/getPositionFromCells.py - Information about the Connected Cell -- 296 / 25326 / 39 Traceback (most recent call last): File /media/card/Maps/Cells/getPositionFromCells.py, line 19, in module gsm_neighbour_cells = gsm_cell_monitor.GetNeighbourCellInformation() File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 145, in __call__ **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 651, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freesmartphone.GSM.DeviceFailed: OK any ideas why the call does not work? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
I guess one could split the whole thing in three parts so it would be adaptable to both qtmoko and shr. I can only program in python and may add a sqlite data base. having read a bit more about triangulation, the task will be much more difficult than I though, but one will see. the three parts of the program could be somewhat like: 1) get cell id and neighbour cell ids SHR) via FSO QtMoko) ? 2) python script + sqlite db compare cells to cells in database select the relevant ones and their position apply some function to estimate the real position 3A) display position SHR) maybe via foxtrot-gps QtMoko) NeronGPS if possible 3B) create some sort of fake NMEA and alter navit.xml to read from there (as far as I remember navit can take quite a lot of sources, so this might be an option for both SHR and QtMoko br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
so is there any other way to get this information? also I think that the openbmap logger which worked nicely on my gta02 was somehow able to get the neighbouring cells. but I might be mistaken. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
thanks I will give that a try. Does anyone know if there has been a major change with fso. I just installed cellhunter on shr and when I hit the button to get the cell the console gives while len(self.cell_la) 4: TypeError: object of type 'dbus.Int32' has no len() does anyone know about these changes? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
regarding qtmoko v48 and fso. does installing and using fso to get cell information mean that you fso then also takes over all the communication with the modem (eg. calls, and so on)? or can the qt-system and fso live in peace next to each other? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
the patched version works nicely. thanks for pointing me there. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
does anyone know if the agps-onlinec works on SHR? because then one could already make use of the location of the main cell nearby to get the right coordinates for the assisted-gps query (one then needs gprs/wlan though and an account with u-blox). #!/bin/sh echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-pm-gps/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron ./agps-onlinec -c full -u youraccount -k yourpasswd -la 25.073270 -lo 121.574805 -p 99.00 cat /dev/ttySAC1 is this program also working on qtmoko somehow? I remember that radek managed to store gps-data and then send it back to the modem when needed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
Hi, I wanted to give the GSM location a try. So what I would like to acchieve in the end is: 0. GPS off 1. GSM Cells are detected 2. Triangulation takes place (I don't know yet if eg signal strength is used) 3. Look-up in the OpenCellID offline (!) text database 4. Position being shown in NeronGPS as in eg in the Whereabouts-Mappingdemo shown on the QtMokoDev Page [1] So I started with step 1 and I am a bit stuck. The numbers for the location that the Mokofaen theme displays somehow do not match any of the cell towers my phone is most likely to be connected to: Most likely I am connected to mcc 262; mnc 3; lac 40096 and cellid 137380532 [2] which has nowhere the numbers I get on my home screen: 296/25326 So where am I going wrong. The next question would be: Is there a simple way to get the other surrounding cells and their signal strength (I remember openbmap client was able to do that in shr-unstable). thanks for your advice robin [1] http://radekp.github.com/qtmoko/api/whereabouts-mappingdemo.html [2] http://www.opencellid.org/cell/get?key=myapikeymcc=262mnc=3; cellid=29625326lac=40096 /Telephony/Status/CellLocation ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS
Dear Daniele, thanks for your reply. I was thinking to implement the whole in python. Currently it is all done by hand: I checked with openbmap what cellid I should be connected to and then downloaded the opencellid cells.txt.gz file to check if the coordinates fit and they do. so having the correct numbers for the cell one can easily get the tower position from the text file in gps-offline mode. the problem is that the numbers for location on the qtmoko home screen do not fit with any numbers of a tower near by. So I was wondering either what does numbers are and how to get the correct ones. Qtmoko currently does not run on fso, so I can't use fso commands to get the values as you do it or cellhunter does it. I am still struggling here. best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: J2ME on QtMoko/SHR?
hi martin, will this be ported to shr-core at some time in the future? best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: J2ME on QtMoko/SHR?
hi radek, thanks for pointing me to phonetiq. the test app works nicely gpsmid somehow exits with an application exception (which is unfortunately not fitted to the screen size so I cannot read/report it here). Maybe if one will be able to run android-apks the gpsmid apk may work. best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: J2ME on QtMoko/SHR?
I guess I could live without it, but if there is a chance to include it, this would add the chance to have a couple more apps being able to run under SHR. So yes if possible, please include. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
J2ME on QtMoko/SHR?
Hi, I have come across GPSMid (see below) and it looks quite nice for routing, as it apparently is also able to get the position from the Cell-Network. Now GPSMid is made for Java Phones and Android. They though state if you get J2ME running you should be able to run it as well. Does anyone know if we can do this on QtMoko or SHR or push me in the right direction? thanks a lot robin GPSMid getting started: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/gpsmid/index.php?title=Getting_started ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner
hi, just as it was mentioned in this thread before I can confirm that with the web.de server which stores my mail only certain combinations of the login worked to give me the option to actually send my message (I think it took me about 20mins to figure out which ones...) br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner
this is qtmoko v48, freerunner, email via encrypted WPA wifi: imap acount (imap.web.de) with port 993 and encryption ssl and smtp (smtp.web.de) with port 25 and encryption none + auth = plain Retrieving is straight forward. sending somehow only works if I go to the message in my outbox and then press send message again. otherwise it wont leave the phone. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner
I haven't tried earlier versions so I have no idea if there is a change in how the mail program behaves. all in all I am not using it that often as it is quite cumbersome to use. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
