Re: Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-06-21 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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While OSM2go isn't - today - working as expeted on FreeRunner, we have
Mumpot that, in the last version, is quite perfect. The only lack of
Mumpot, compared with OSM2go are presets (JOSM like tagging menus) and
the satellite overlay (wich, I think, for street-mapping, it isn't
useful). On the other hand, Mumpot is optimized for FreeRunner, and
the map is fullscreen.

However, I think it'll be great to have both ported perfectly on
FreeRunner, so... long life to OSM2go porters!

2009/5/8
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 On May 8, 2009 8:48am, Andreas Kemnade andr...@kemnade.info wrote:
   The only thing I notice, in our (community) work is that today we have a
   LOT of applications doing gpx recording (going with memory, I remember
   TangoGPS, BikeAtor, Navit, probably also GPS Sight and Mumpot). Some
   applications have a database to insert POIs (like TangoGPS), but still
   doesn't exists something integrating all the features we
   (OSMmappers/surveyors) need.

 OSM2go would cover most people requirements. As far as I can tell 
 (http://comiles.eu/~natanael/wordpress/tag/osm2go), it isn't quite there yet 
 on the FR.

 Regards

 Jeff

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Re: Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-06-19 Thread undrwater

Just a quick post to note that on 0.2-r2, recording from mic chops about half
of my recording.  If I record 10 seconds, about  plays back, if I record 5,
about 2.5 plays back.  You get the point. :)

Otherwise, I love this app!
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-05-08 Thread Andreas Kemnade
Hi,


 The only thing I notice, in our (community) work is that today we have a
 LOT of applications doing gpx recording (going with memory, I remember
 TangoGPS, BikeAtor, Navit, probably also GPS Sight and Mumpot). Some
 applications have a database to insert POIs (like TangoGPS), but still
 doesn't exists something integrating all the features we
 (OSMmappers/surveyors) need.
 
Intregrating such things is on my todo list for mumpot. For now,
I mark start and end points of a way while cycling on it (in between I
select the highway class), 
osm data is directly created and take a photo of street signs
or other things which I do not directly map on the place
(perhaps for the name of a POI, or if the POI is
not in my presets).
Sometimes I stop to do some correction or manual editing.
I upload the osm data on the go directly from mumpot.

At home (on the next day or so) I download the osm data for the area again
in JOSM and add the street names and other stuff from the photos.

I really think an integrated solution would be best because
then you do not need to switch between applications all the time
and the space on the screen is limited. So doing voice recording
could be a kind of fallback which can be activated on every
object insertion if the presets are not enough.
I'm also thinking about using buttons in the headset for example
to start recording, or especially on the bicycle scenario,
what about extra buttons on the handlebar? 


Greetings
Andreas Kemnade


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Re: Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-05-08 Thread jeffrey . ratcliffe

On May 8, 2009 8:48am, Andreas Kemnade andr...@kemnade.info wrote:

 The only thing I notice, in our (community) work is that today we have a
 LOT of applications doing gpx recording (going with memory, I remember
 TangoGPS, BikeAtor, Navit, probably also GPS Sight and Mumpot). Some
 applications have a database to insert POIs (like TangoGPS), but still
 doesn't exists something integrating all the features we
 (OSMmappers/surveyors) need.


OSM2go would cover most people requirements. As far as I can tell  
(http://comiles.eu/~natanael/wordpress/tag/osm2go), it isn't quite there  
yet on the FR.


Regards

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-24 Thread matthias
Al Johnson schrieb:
 On Thursday 23 April 2009, Stefan Monnier wrote:
   
 Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would
 * answer automatically each incomming phonecall,
 * play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla 
 welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it
 * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names
 for the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav)

 I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far
 from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great !
   
 Seems like what you want is to route the GSM to Asterisk.
 

 That seems like overkill, unless you're going to be running asterisk anyway. 
 If not it could be a small addition to the dialer program, or a separate app 
 that should be easy to do with fso.

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Yes it is, we just have to add this functionality to the dialer-app or
create another one. (just playing sound using a state routing it to
Mono1 - not playing it back. and then recording after playing a short
signal.) it's not hard to do, even in python.
I think it just hasn't been implemented because each provider provides
some kind of mailbox.
But it would be nice because checking the mailbox is not always free!

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-24 Thread kimaidou

 Yes it is, we just have to add this functionality to the dialer-app or
 create another one. (just playing sound using a state routing it to
 Mono1 - not playing it back. and then recording after playing a short
 signal.) it's not hard to do, even in python.
 I think it just hasn't been implemented because each provider provides
 some kind of mailbox.
 But it would be nice because checking the mailbox is not always free!


Not always free (e.g. when you are abroad), and it is limited :
* you cannot keep a message as long as you want,
* you cannot copy the message to you PC,
* you cannot use a I am not here message different for each caller (e.g :
a message for my mum, another for my boss, etc.)
* you cannot forward a voice message to another person
*etc.

Kimaidou



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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-24 Thread KaZeR



kimaidou wrote:
 

 Yes it is, we just have to add this functionality to the dialer-app or
 create another one. (just playing sound using a state routing it to
 Mono1 - not playing it back. and then recording after playing a short
 signal.) it's not hard to do, even in python.
 I think it just hasn't been implemented because each provider provides
 some kind of mailbox.
 But it would be nice because checking the mailbox is not always free!

 
 Not always free (e.g. when you are abroad), and it is limited :
 * you cannot keep a message as long as you want,
 * you cannot copy the message to you PC,
 * you cannot use a I am not here message different for each caller (e.g
 :
 a message for my mum, another for my boss, etc.)
 * you cannot forward a voice message to another person
 *etc.
 

I do like the idea. I don't know for other countries, but messages boxes in
France are really limited, even if they are free.
I'm really interested in this feature.

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Matthias Felsche wrote:
 Dear list,
 a new application has been released at opkg.org:
 
 http://www.opkg.org/package_207.html
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator
 
 It's a recording application which records your speech via mic, the incoming 
 gsm-sound only or both -- a whole phonecall.
 I hope you will enjoy it!
 
 Please gimme feedback on errors etc.
 I already know it's recording volume is quite low.


I tried it with the SHR testing distro.
Dictator recorded both sides of a phone call, albeit very low.

Recording from mic only didn't work for me. I got nothing, even though I 
happened to sneeze loudly in the middle of one test.

Also, dictator seems to record in stereo, while these sources are mono. 
One channel is silent. Avoiding unnecessary stereo gives the cpu less 
work, which is important with this weak cpu. (The game linball works 
with mono sound files but have choppy sound with stereo, for example.)

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-23 Thread matthias


Robin Paulson schrieb:
 2009/4/21 Matthias Felsche matthiasfels...@web.de:
   
 Dear list,
 a new application has been released at opkg.org:

 http://www.opkg.org/package_207.html

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator

 It's a recording application which records your speech via mic, the incoming 
 gsm-sound only or both -- a whole phonecall.
 I hope you will enjoy it!

 Please gimme feedback on errors etc.
 

 great stuff. i love the interface, lovely big buttons

 is there any way to select which microphone it records from? i've got
 a usb mic that i want to use to record samples?

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Well if you can record with your usb-mic via arecord it should not be a
problem with dictator.
Either you specify another soundcard than hw:0,0 in /etc/dictator.conf
or it's a matter of the statefiles.
I'm sorry but I can't test it here because i ain't got no usb-mic. But
if you could tell me how you are using your microphone up to now with
the freerunner, maybe i  can help.

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-23 Thread kimaidou
Another feature request :

Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would
* answer automatically each incomming phonecall,
* play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla 
welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it
* record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names for
the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav)

I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far
from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great !
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-23 Thread matthias
What about an integration into, let' say tangoGPS, which is written in
gtk too?
Another tab for recording voice-notes which are automatically linked
into the tangoGPS track would be a pleasant solution to me. you could
convert its track into gpx and upload it the way you like.

But if OSMTracker does this job already and a daemon would be more
suitable, maybe it's not worth the work.


Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
   
 * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? Have
 you any clue how to do it ?
 

 Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS
 data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get
 lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a
 car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to the 
 phone at all.


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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-23 Thread kimaidou
Humm.

Is there a OSMTracker version for the openmoko ? If so, could you please
give a link ?
Thanks in advance

2009/4/23 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de

 What about an integration into, let' say tangoGPS, which is written in
 gtk too?
 Another tab for recording voice-notes which are automatically linked
 into the tangoGPS track would be a pleasant solution to me. you could
 convert its track into gpx and upload it the way you like.

 But if OSMTracker does this job already and a daemon would be more
 suitable, maybe it's not worth the work.


 Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
  kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
 
  * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ?
 Have
  you any clue how to do it ?
 
 
  Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS
  data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get
  lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a
  car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to
 the phone at all.
 
 
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-23 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/4/23 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de:
 is there any way to select which microphone it records from? i've got
 a usb mic that i want to use to record samples?


 Well if you can record with your usb-mic via arecord it should not be a
 problem with dictator.
 Either you specify another soundcard than hw:0,0 in /etc/dictator.conf
 or it's a matter of the statefiles.

that's cool, just what i was after - to know which file to set the config in

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-23 Thread Onen
Hi,

no it is VB on Windows Mobile, AFAIK

Onen

kimaidou wrote:
 Humm.
 
 Is there a OSMTracker version for the openmoko ? If so, could you please 
 give a link ?
 Thanks in advance
 
 2009/4/23 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de mailto:matthiasfels...@web.de
 
 What about an integration into, let' say tangoGPS, which is written in
 gtk too?
 Another tab for recording voice-notes which are automatically linked
 into the tangoGPS track would be a pleasant solution to me. you could
 convert its track into gpx and upload it the way you like.
 
 But if OSMTracker does this job already and a daemon would be more
 suitable, maybe it's not worth the work.
 
 
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   kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com mailto:kimai...@gmail.com writes:
  
   * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which
 format ? Have
   you any clue how to do it ?
  
  
   Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS
   data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get
   lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a
   car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not
 connected to the phone at all.
  
  
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would
 * answer automatically each incomming phonecall,
 * play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla 
 welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it
 * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names for
 the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav)

 I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far
 from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great !

Seems like what you want is to route the GSM to Asterisk.


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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-23 Thread kimaidou
Yes, why not. As a user, it is not important for me if this is diktaphone or
asterisk which does it. I do not know many things about sounds, routing,
etc., so I cannot argue :D
If asterisk can do it , let's use asterisk ! But we (dumm users) will need
end-user simple tuto to achieve some things :D

Anyway, I think it would be a great feature

2009/4/23 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca

  Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would
  * answer automatically each incomming phonecall,
  * play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla 
  welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it
  * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names
 for
  the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav)

  I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far
  from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great !

 Seems like what you want is to route the GSM to Asterisk.


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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-23 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 23 April 2009, Stefan Monnier wrote:
  Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would
  * answer automatically each incomming phonecall,
  * play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla 
  welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it
  * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names
  for the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav)
 
  I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far
  from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great !

 Seems like what you want is to route the GSM to Asterisk.

That seems like overkill, unless you're going to be running asterisk anyway. 
If not it could be a small addition to the dialer program, or a separate app 
that should be easy to do with fso.

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-22 Thread rakshat hooja
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
timo.lindf...@iki.fiwrote:

 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
  * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ?
 Have
  you any clue how to do it ?

 Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS
 data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get
 lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a
 car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to
 the phone at all.



+ 1

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-22 Thread Onen
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
 * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? Have
 you any clue how to do it ?
 
 Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS
 data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get
 lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a
 car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to the 
 phone at all.
 

I agree. I prefer to see two separate files. I have been using a phone 
with embedded GPS to make the GPX. I have used its camera to take 
pictures. Without any further work JOSM displays my track with pictures 
at the right places. So I guess it does correlate the different timestamps.

But what I described in a previous email about audio is supported by 
JOSM too. So there is probably already two approaches supported.

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-22 Thread Onen
Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
 The only thing I notice, in our (community) work is that today we have a
 LOT of applications doing gpx recording (going with memory, I remember
 TangoGPS, BikeAtor, Navit, probably also GPS Sight and Mumpot). Some
 applications have a database to insert POIs (like TangoGPS), but still
 doesn't exists something integrating all the features we
 (OSMmappers/surveyors) need.
 

I would love to see a daemon (DBus?) running on the phone, to which any 
application could ask to build a GPX file for it. It could ask to insert 
waypoints, etc... everything supported by the GPX specifications.

It could have also the capability like ousaged to detect when an app 
which has required building a GPX has disappeared, in order to prevent 
from building GPX forever for an app which is gone.

This way any application could ask for a GPX and focuses on its own logic.

If anybody is interested, feel free to ping me :-)

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-21 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Matthias Felsche ha scritto:
 Dear list,
 a new application has been released at opkg.org:
 
 http://www.opkg.org/package_207.html
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator
 
 It's a recording application which records your speech via mic, the incoming 
 gsm-sound only or both -- a whole phonecall.
 I hope you will enjoy it!
 
 Please gimme feedback on errors etc.
 I already know it's recording volume is quite low.
 anyone with some more knowledge of the alsa-switches and -mixers and -muxers 
 etc. please have a look at /usr/share/scenarios/dictator/dictator.state
 I'm going to improve this but maybe one of you is faster than me. (hope so 
 ;-))

Hi Matthias,
first of all, thanks for bringing us such great and promising
application; it's pygtk structure makes it really expansible.

The first time I've seen the screenshot on opkg.org, I've thought that
it's big buttons are *perfect* for bike riding. So, the question is:
OpenStreetMap mappers (and other people, BTW) need an application
capable to take georeferred notes, which can easily can used to prospect
them on mapping Desktop applications (such like JOSM[1]).

Python makes very easy to take lat/longitude from GPS receiver on Neo.
We've a lot of applications doing this. Using a library to edit audio
file's metadata, we could insert in recorded audio track lat/lon
specification.

Just my 2 cents... my spare free time until July doesn't allow me to
implement this so, if someone would try... :D :D

Cheers

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/JOSM

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-21 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/4/21 Matthias Felsche matthiasfels...@web.de:
 Dear list,
 a new application has been released at opkg.org:

 http://www.opkg.org/package_207.html

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dictator

 It's a recording application which records your speech via mic, the incoming 
 gsm-sound only or both -- a whole phonecall.
 I hope you will enjoy it!

 Please gimme feedback on errors etc.

great stuff. i love the interface, lovely big buttons

is there any way to select which microphone it records from? i've got
a usb mic that i want to use to record samples?

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-21 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 12:17:41 Francesco de Virgilio wrote:

First of all, thank you for the application :)

 The first time I've seen the screenshot on opkg.org, I've thought that
 it's big buttons are *perfect* for bike riding. So, the question is:
 OpenStreetMap mappers (and other people, BTW) need an application
 capable to take georeferred notes, which can easily can used to prospect
 them on mapping Desktop applications (such like JOSM[1]).

It wold be REALLY great to have such an application on Neo for OSMers :)

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-21 Thread kimaidou
+1 for putting the gps information (lat, long, date and time, hpv dops) .
But please, OSMers, could you please help to know what you prefer :
* adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? Have
you any clue how to do it ?
* just create a text file with the same name as the wav file and containing
this info
* just name each wav file with the long and lat and date time ?

Please help. I would love to have this too, but we need more precisions.

2009/4/21 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com

 On Tuesday 21 April 2009 12:17:41 Francesco de Virgilio wrote:

 First of all, thank you for the application :)

  The first time I've seen the screenshot on opkg.org, I've thought that
  it's big buttons are *perfect* for bike riding. So, the question is:
  OpenStreetMap mappers (and other people, BTW) need an application
  capable to take georeferred notes, which can easily can used to prospect
  them on mapping Desktop applications (such like JOSM[1]).

 It wold be REALLY great to have such an application on Neo for OSMers :)

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-21 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 21 April 2009, kimaidou wrote:
 +1 for putting the gps information (lat, long, date and time, hpv dops) .
 But please, OSMers, could you please help to know what you prefer :
 * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ?
 Have you any clue how to do it ?
 * just create a text file with the same name as the wav file and containing
 this info
 * just name each wav file with the long and lat and date time ?

 Please help. I would love to have this too, but we need more precisions.

http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/HowTo/AudioMapping

I've not tried audio mapping yet as while I'm cycling the wind noise tends to 
drown me out. I'm tempted to try with a throat mic plugged into the moko 
though, so long as there's an app that makes it sufficiently easy. A 
background app that records both audio and tracklog with matching filenames, 
and splits logs when the headset button is pressed sounds like the ideal, but 
I may change my mind once I try ;-)

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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-21 Thread Onen
Hi,

I have been using OSMtracker [1] for taking voice notes while biking, 
using the phone headset/microphone.

I think it creates a GPX file with some anchors in it, pointing at the 
wav files names, it has generated. While opening the GPX file under 
JOSM, with wav files in the GPX directory, I get icons all over the 
track that I can click to hear it.

This looks like this:
trkpt lat=XX. lon=XX.
 ele74.8/ele
 time2008-09-14T16:27:40Z/time
   /trkpt
 /trkseg
   /trk
wpt lat=YY. lon=YY.
 ele126.3000/ele
 namevoice/name
 desc2008-09-14T15:41:19Z/desc
 link href=20080914_174113.wav /
   /wpt

For me, this is satisfying. I can upload the GPX to OSM website without 
problem. The only drawback if I would be picky, would be the extra data 
in the GPX that is sent to OSM for nothing.

Onen

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker

kimaidou wrote:
 +1 for putting the gps information (lat, long, date and time, hpv dops) .
 But please, OSMers, could you please help to know what you prefer :
 * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? 
 Have you any clue how to do it ?
 * just create a text file with the same name as the wav file and 
 containing this info
 * just name each wav file with the long and lat and date time ?
 
 Please help. I would love to have this too, but we need more precisions.
 
 2009/4/21 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com 
 mailto:da...@garabana.com
 
 On Tuesday 21 April 2009 12:17:41 Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
 
 First of all, thank you for the application :)
 
   The first time I've seen the screenshot on opkg.org
 http://opkg.org, I've thought that
   it's big buttons are *perfect* for bike riding. So, the question is:
   OpenStreetMap mappers (and other people, BTW) need an application
   capable to take georeferred notes, which can easily can used to
 prospect
   them on mapping Desktop applications (such like JOSM[1]).
 
 It wold be REALLY great to have such an application on Neo for OSMers :)
 


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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-21 Thread Onen
Hi,

Al Johnson wrote:
 
 http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/HowTo/AudioMapping
 
 I've not tried audio mapping yet as while I'm cycling the wind noise tends to 
 drown me out. I'm tempted to try with a throat mic plugged into the moko 
 though, so long as there's an app that makes it sufficiently easy. A 
 background app that records both audio and tracklog with matching filenames, 
 and splits logs when the headset button is pressed sounds like the ideal, but 
 I may change my mind once I try ;-)
 

As described in my other response, this is basically what I have done 
(under WM :-( ). Phone in the pocket, press a button, talk in 
headset/microphone. This way I can prevent from stopping.

My previous response describes which application I used, and how it is 
internally working.

Onen


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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-21 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Onen ha scritto:
 Hi,
 
 I have been using OSMtracker [1] for taking voice notes while biking, 
 using the phone headset/microphone.
 
 I think it creates a GPX file with some anchors in it, pointing at the 
 wav files names, it has generated. While opening the GPX file under 
 JOSM, with wav files in the GPX directory, I get icons all over the 
 track that I can click to hear it.
 
 This looks like this:
 trkpt lat=XX. lon=XX.
  ele74.8/ele
  time2008-09-14T16:27:40Z/time
/trkpt
  /trkseg
/trk
 wpt lat=YY. lon=YY.
  ele126.3000/ele
  namevoice/name
  desc2008-09-14T15:41:19Z/desc
  link href=20080914_174113.wav /
/wpt
 
 For me, this is satisfying. I can upload the GPX to OSM website without 
 problem. The only drawback if I would be picky, would be the extra data 
 in the GPX that is sent to OSM for nothing.
 
 Onen

Great Onen! I think this should be the approach if we want to create a
georeferred voicenote application, starting from Dictator. To be picky (
:D ) it's really simple to write a python script to clean the extra data.

The only thing I notice, in our (community) work is that today we have a
LOT of applications doing gpx recording (going with memory, I remember
TangoGPS, BikeAtor, Navit, probably also GPS Sight and Mumpot). Some
applications have a database to insert POIs (like TangoGPS), but still
doesn't exists something integrating all the features we
(OSMmappers/surveyors) need.


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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-21 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
 * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? Have
 you any clue how to do it ?

Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS
data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get
lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a
car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to the 
phone at all.


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