Re: [android] inital thoughts
I tried the beta2 release... I found it better than the previous one, but needs still a lot of work to do. Lots of crashes of the apps... and the same problems you mentioned: - low call volume - unreliable wifiscan (but i managed to do it 3 times succesfully, the real bug is that you can't type with the keyboard because the popup menu is placed a layer over ;-) ) - crashes ..but... very nice! Hoping to have some improvements soon ;-) d On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Joel Newkirk wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:21:26 -0500, Charles Pax > wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Russell Hay > wrote: > > > >> Just installed the latest android image, and it's looking nice, > >> responsiveness is where 2008.8 used to be, and my main gripes from a 1hr > >> play are; > >> > >> - very low call volume, despite setting it to full > >> - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: > > power > >> button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon > >> > >> Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are > >> workarounds for a lack of a keyboard! > >> > > > > If the rumors [1] of the G2 are true, we won't have to worry about ugly > > workarounds; a touch screen only interface will be in the upstream > > > > -Charles Pax > > > > [1] > http://i.gizmodo.com/5135926/android-g2-photos-thinner-and-no-keyboard > > However, the G2 does have the five hardware buttons (plus a trackpoint, > looks like) that 'cupcake' is said to require... > > j > > -- > Joel Newkirk > http://jthinks.com (blog) > http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:21:26 -0500, Charles Pax wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Russell Hay wrote: > >> Just installed the latest android image, and it's looking nice, >> responsiveness is where 2008.8 used to be, and my main gripes from a 1hr >> play are; >> >> - very low call volume, despite setting it to full >> - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: > power >> button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon >> >> Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are >> workarounds for a lack of a keyboard! >> > > If the rumors [1] of the G2 are true, we won't have to worry about ugly > workarounds; a touch screen only interface will be in the upstream > > -Charles Pax > > [1] http://i.gizmodo.com/5135926/android-g2-photos-thinner-and-no-keyboard However, the G2 does have the five hardware buttons (plus a trackpoint, looks like) that 'cupcake' is said to require... j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 06:21, Charles Pax wrote: > If the rumors [1] of the G2 are true, we won't have to worry about ugly > workarounds; a touch screen only interface will be in the upstream > Yes, there is touchscreen only support in development. The coming android "cupcake" branch does include software keyboard support. But the Neo has only 2 buttons which is really not enough... See thread http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/fbade4fc62021894/2c80b560c616b22c : "Cupcake still requires the send, end, home, menu, and back hard keys to function properly." So we still need workarounds to simulate 5 keys with only 2 available ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Russell Hay wrote: > Just installed the latest android image, and it's looking nice, > responsiveness is where 2008.8 used to be, and my main gripes from a 1hr > play are; > > - very low call volume, despite setting it to full > - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power > button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon > > Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are > workarounds for a lack of a keyboard! > If the rumors [1] of the G2 are true, we won't have to worry about ugly workarounds; a touch screen only interface will be in the upstream -Charles Pax [1] http://i.gizmodo.com/5135926/android-g2-photos-thinner-and-no-keyboard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Davide Scaini writes: >> which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels >> of more than 1.8mb?) > > U-boot has been able to load large kernels from ext2 for a long time > afaik. Some of the kernels floating are larger than 2mb, which requires a change to U-boot parameters (or switching to Qi). The Koolu kernel Russel refers to shouldn't require any change. Jim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
Davide Scaini writes: > which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels > of more than 1.8mb?) U-boot has been able to load large kernels from ext2 for a long time afaik. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
nice! thank you very much i'll give a try immediately! d On 1/22/09, Russell Hay wrote: > Hey, sorry I'm being remiss :-) > > I used the images here http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files > > > - that page also shows how you need to partition your SD card. The kernel > image is 1.9Mb therefore works with my 'normal' uboot. I flashed it rather > than play around with the SD card option. Always have - is just simpler to > try one at a time and reflash. > > > > 2009/1/22 Davide Scaini > >> just few question: >> which image? >> which kernel? >> which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for >> kernels >> of more than 1.8mb?) >> flash or sd? >> >> thanks! >> [i'm interested in testing android but i'm afraid of distroing my actual >> uboot configuration that works nicely booting my debian ;-) ] >> d >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Russell Hay wrote: >> >>> aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when >>> browsing the menus. >>> >>> As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable - >>> it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now. >>> >>> 2009/1/22 arne anka >>> >>> > - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power > button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon > > Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are > workarounds for a lack of a keyboard! what's the aux button used for? since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Russ >>> >>> ___ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > > -- > Russ > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
Hey, sorry I'm being remiss :-) I used the images here http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files - that page also shows how you need to partition your SD card. The kernel image is 1.9Mb therefore works with my 'normal' uboot. I flashed it rather than play around with the SD card option. Always have - is just simpler to try one at a time and reflash. 2009/1/22 Davide Scaini > just few question: > which image? > which kernel? > which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels > of more than 1.8mb?) > flash or sd? > > thanks! > [i'm interested in testing android but i'm afraid of distroing my actual > uboot configuration that works nicely booting my debian ;-) ] > d > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Russell Hay wrote: > >> aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when >> browsing the menus. >> >> As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable - >> it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now. >> >> 2009/1/22 arne anka >> >> > - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: >>> power >>> > button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon >>> > >>> > Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are >>> > workarounds for a lack of a keyboard! >>> >>> what's the aux button used for? >>> since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible >>> to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode? >>> >>> ___ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Russ >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
just few question: which image? which kernel? which boot loader? (is there a version of uboot already patched for kernels of more than 1.8mb?) flash or sd? thanks! [i'm interested in testing android but i'm afraid of distroing my actual uboot configuration that works nicely booting my debian ;-) ] d On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Russell Hay wrote: > aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when > browsing the menus. > > As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable - > it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now. > > 2009/1/22 arne anka > > > - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power >> > button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon >> > >> > Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are >> > workarounds for a lack of a keyboard! >> >> what's the aux button used for? >> since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible >> to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode? >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> > > > > -- > Russ > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
aux button seems to reject incoming calls - and also to 'go back' when browsing the menus. As you say I expect someone will get around to making it more usable - it's still released as 'Beta 2' right now. 2009/1/22 arne anka > > - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power > > button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon > > > > Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are > > workarounds for a lack of a keyboard! > > what's the aux button used for? > since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible > to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
> - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power > button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon > > Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are > workarounds for a lack of a keyboard! what's the aux button used for? since koolu (or whoever) ported android anyway, shouldn't it be possible to make aux akt as such when in dialer mode? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] inital thoughts
Just installed the latest android image, and it's looking nice, responsiveness is where 2008.8 used to be, and my main gripes from a 1hr play are; - very low call volume, despite setting it to full - to accept calls, you have to use use the key sequence as follows: power button- choose keyboard-hit the phone icon Just an inital impression - and I appreciate it's a port so these are workarounds for a lack of a keyboard! __ Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
