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2.6.29-rc seems quite stable but the patch against mainline is horrible, besides it's power management is worse then it could be. 2.6.39 has hardly nearly unreproducible problem with resume. Now we have free firmware which is cool Yes it is, and those who do not believe so should allow those of us that do value it to enjoy it in peace :-0 - I at least do not need to be told repeatedly how foolish I am for delighting over something someone else believes has zero worth. but the usablity of the phone hasn't changed much. I disagree - largely thanks to Radek (who is being unnecessarily modest) it's usability has definitely improved. I'm using Qtmoko v54 (with the excellent replacement keyboard) which has 2.6.34 kernel. Since I only went back to using the freerunner as my daily phone when Michael released his work, I only recently realized how usable it is. An occasional reboot is necessary, but no sporadic problem with resume. Power consumption is not great and I wonder if that would be improved by ripping out some stuff I don't need - I would forgo QtMaze for the odd micro amp ^_~ -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi It looks like you will need to convince the maintainer of Qtmoko to tell you (and the rest of us) how to get his popular distro working with FreeCalypso tools. Or you could try the special distro which David Matthews put together - the 2nd version which works without the special cable. Making a general purpose distro such as Qtmoko loadtools capable is likely to be a non starter. As well as stopping everything that's accessing the modem - which will likely be the problem Giacomo reported - it's likely to be advisable to rip out all the audio stuff also. hehe - So prepare your qtmoko (by ripping it to shreds), run loadtools to flash your calypso, then reinstall and recover your data from backups :-) Better idea - use the special distro (I used Qtmoko as a starting point) with or without the cable - or else build your own single purpose boot_and_run_from_sdcard system. http://winterveldt.co.za/leo2moko-p2.html -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi list, In addition to previous succes stories, one more for SMTP on gta04. Fetching mail is more of a problem with this yahoo-account, therefore no reply in the other thread. Best regards, ~~ Boudewijn, via OpenPhoenux - gta04.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, I am in Australia and my GTA-02 A6 has a loose USB socket. Does anybody know anyone reputable in Australia that I might be able to send it too for repair? I have approached several (Brisbane Australia) repair places but they won't touch it. It is incapable of charge or ssh while the socket is loose. I believe I caught the problem early enough to avoid PCB damage. (if I wiggle the plug it will charge for a few seconds). Thanks Dave ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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(cross post from SHR list) Dear all, For an Openmoko PIM Synchronization tool (called PISI) I developed a module to integrate with SyncML-servers this weekend. It is all running fine on my Linux box (desktop) already. I had some libs to install in order to get prepared. Now, for putting the package together for the Openmoko I need to port them. However, I am not very familar with this stuff (Python programmer) and have no toolchain installed (I think, I heart that's the way to go for that kind of stuff) ... So my question is, whether somebody (who has maybe already a fully functional toolchain installed) could assemble Openmoko packages (best ipk I would say) for the following three modules: - wbxml (http://sourceforge.net/projects/libwbxml/files/libwbxml/0.10.7/libwbxml-0.10.7.tar.gz/download) - libsoup (http://live.gnome.org/LibSoup) - libsyncml (http://sourceforge.net/projects/libsyncml/files/libsyncml/0.5.4/libsyncml-0.5.4.tar.gz/download) Uploading them to opkg.org would be grant - but if you just send them over, I would do the rest, too ... Please, please help - if I need to do it myself, it will probably take me ages (and will look like the openldap module ;)) Michael PS: There were comments already, that BB-files should be the way to go - however, about that I know even less ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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hi list :) when will this mailing list move to a forum with rss feeds? i cant seem to keep track of anything here nor even understand what people are talking about. is there a way to thread the mails together or move to a forum? thanks _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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hello list, is there a way for the mail to be populated in more order way? its hard to keep track of all the mails, one could not find in o(1) the subject names , or cut throw the data easily to understand and get partial grasp of the messages sent. thanks ***(to help me find the message in the chaos),** _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/4/1 KaZeR ka...@altern.org Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann a écrit : +1 from me. I'm using unstable as primary phone. And so far had no real problems. I remember though that somebody had strange problems receiving SMS. If that's still valid please stand up and speak :-) /me stands up. I stand up too. Latest unstable is nice : fast compared to other distros, GPS works fine, a lot of good things. But the sms apps still tends to segfault when launched. And sometimes some messages aren't viewable using the GUI, but i can see them using AT+CMGL I'm having exactly this problem with sms that don't appear on sms app. But puting the sim in another phone they appear as read. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, I'm trying to build thttpd ( thttpd-2.25b | http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ ) using toolchain but om-conf fails. The log is in om-conf_output.txt . As a test, I was able to ./configuremake this package for my x86 without toolchain. Also autoconf, automake et m4 are up to date, as stated by opkg-target : Package m4 (1.4.8-r0) installed in root is up to date. Package autoconf (2.61-r1) installed in root is up to date. Package automake (1.9.6-r0) installed in root is up to date. I found a script named aclocal.m4 ( here : http://svn.cuwireless.net/cuw/vendor/thttpd/2.25b/aclocal.m4 ) that seems to define the missing macros. I put it in the main directory - and in the subdirectory named 'm4' - but it is removed when om-conf is run. I guess I'm not using it the way autoconf or configure expect it. Still, is it really the solution since it is not needed when making regular build? Has anyone an idea ? I forgot to mention I looked for a thttpd package. Sadly none were found. Installing a thttpd.ipk would be a really acceptable workaround... Source directory: /mnt/data/martin/openmoko/dev/prog/thttpd/thttpd-2.25b Extra configure arguments: automake (GNU automake) 1.10.1 Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv2+: GNU GPL version 2 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Written by Tom Tromey [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Alexandre Duret-Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]. AUTOV is 1.10 NOTE: Executing autoreconf --verbose --install --force -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal-1.10 -I /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal autoreconf: Entering directory `.' autoreconf: configure.in: not using Gettext autoreconf: running: aclocal --force autoreconf: configure.in: tracing autoreconf: configure.in: not using Libtool autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoconf --include=/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal-1.10 --include=/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal --force --warnings=cross configure.in:87: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LBL_CHECK_LIB If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.in:126: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_ACME_TM_GMTOFF configure.in:127: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_ACME_INT64T configure.in:128: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_ACME_SOCKLENT autoreconf: /usr/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 1 FATAL: autoreconf execution failed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi I just recieved an interesting mail in the Xorg MailingList this was the contents : Why not just go for the full X11? Memory wise I found no difference in the memory usage between X11 and kdrive on the OMAP. I am told that the full Xorg isn't very happy when built against uClibc. So here's my question, if the memory footprint of kdrive is the same as the full xorg, why choose kdrive over the full xorg ? There might be interesing features in the full server that aren't there in kdrive. Plus I've read here that the X driver has got duplicate code in the X driver from the framebuffer, so there's no really gain in term of size of the driver either... So here's my question if I am totally wrong or asked a totally stupid question I am sorry, as I don't know all the implications. Ok, I may have mangled the history a little here, but this is the basics I hope. When we first started on this kdrive/tinyX was the playground for new features within the xorg/xf86 family. xorg didn't support touchscreens, or a configless running. The lack of these features was a killer because making a user construct an xorg.conf on device was a pain. kdrive also had the RENDER extension so people could play with shinies. Xglamo was then created in the kdrive family. Now OM is going to invest some time in investigating if Xorg or Kdrive is the best path forward in the future. Xorg has acheived some level of configless running. Has touchscreen drivers. And the shinies extensions. It is being used on other embedded boards built from OE as well. Graeme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi all! Well, I'm a little new to this (as I'm sure everybody says when they are posting for the first time), but I was wondering, how can I free up space on the neo? Are there any packages that are not necessary? I somehow find myself using up 99% of space after doing an 'upgrade'. I would like to install a bunch of python modules to run pyroute (has anyone has any luck with that so far?) but I keep running out of space. When I try installing the modules onto an sd card, I run out of space there as well. Do python modules normally take up over 400mb of space? Any help would be greatly appreciated! L ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Tilman Baumann wrote: W. B. Kranendonk wrote: And, on a side note... How impact proof will the phone be, might she try throwing her spear? :-P The weakest link is the screen. :p With the invisible shield screen protector it should be as well protected as the leading edge of a helicopter blade :-). Devices with a screen protector could get a 1d6 defensive bonus :P. There would be some practical obstacles though, like walls (unless your spear-throwing arch nemesis can pierce walls or cars with her weapon). When in the open you could use maps to check if there is a normally unobstructed path between you two, but even than the freerunner can’t know if there are cars/waste bins that give you “protection”. Maybe you could overcome this obstacle by using a (usb) infrared receiver? Infrared won’t penetrate obstacles, so when hiding behind a corner you will be safe. I’m not a programmer, but I think it will be very easy: -insert a usb infrared receiver in the neo -hack/slash/throw/cast with a standard tv remote (assign attacks to different buttons on your remote, e.g. 1 is block, 2 is sword attack, 3 is spear, 4 is bow...) -Bluetooth can send the information about you and your stats (hp, armor, weapons, combat modifiers, active spells...) and your opponents freerunner will calculate the amount of damage you inflict with your chosen attack. It then sends that information through Bluetooth to your freerunner. And you can see what damage that you do and the hp the adversary has left. -When you have weapons that can overcome obstacles (railguns combined with x-ray vision, bazookas penetrating walls, you throw the grenade around the corner, use a tactical nuke….) or spells that don’t require your enemy to be in sight you can use the Bluetooth or GPS method. Another nice feature is that you can play your game inside a building, even when there is no GPS. LIRC is a package that allows you to decode and send infra-red signals of many (but not all) commonly used remote controls. http://www.lirc.org/ an IR dongle costs only a few dollar on e-bay hope you found this useful y _ Download Messenger op je mobiel! http://www.windowslivemobile.msn.com/nl/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: this is a core part of my point. i stare at this screen every day. i know its dpi. most people imho will never make use of such a dpi as they literally can't see it - they will NEED to use much bigger fonts just to see something other than a blur. thus the resolution usefulness degrades rapidly. the but i can't do 80x24 without vga is moot as it is a blur, unless you go up to a font size where all you can fit is 60 wide or less. I stare at my neo1973, which has the same screen, every day. I also use a Treo 700p daily. The treo has a 320 x 320 pixel screen, which is larger than QVGA. If I run the terminal application which comes with the neo's gtk software stack, switch to landscape orientation, go to full screen and reduce the font size by two zoom levels, I have a terminal application which will show 85 columns with 25 lines, and a perfectly legible font. The difference between the neo's display and my Treo's display (which can display 80 columns with a 4 pixel wide font) IS DRAMATIC. This is not a case of the VGA screen looking a little better. This is not me kidding myself about the quality of my eyesight. There is a dramatic difference between VGA and QVGA. I wish I knew how to take a screenshot off of my Treo. I'd set up a wiki page with the images, and then there would be no more discussion of this, I think. Anyone with decent eyesight would see the difference. If someone can email me with instructions about how to do a screen grab with PalmOS, I'll make a comparison page. maybe it just needs people to actually use it for a while and they might begin to see that a lower res screen may just be fine and not as bad as they think. the things you want to do are possible at lower resolutions. I'd venture to guess that most of the people on this list who have posted an opinion about this have used cell phones with lower resolution screens. I have - I use one every day. Do you really think the consumers who are afflicted with featuritis, who care only about bragging to their friends about how slick there phones are, are hanging around waiting for the Freerunner? Take a look at the iphone which was anounced yesterday. Its hardware is superior, in every aspect (except the screen, but you appear to be working on fixing that) to the Freerunner's. It costs $199 (I know Apple extracts money later via the service contract). Anyone with even the mildest case of featuritis is going to buy something like *that*. The people who are going to buy the Freerunner are persons who want to see cell phones take a different path.And, though this sounds pretentious, I think the people who are reading the OM discussion lists, waiting impatiently to buy a Freerunner, know a lot more about cell phones than the average consumer.If these people are telling you they want VGA, not QVGA, I don't think you should just assume they have no idea what they really want. browsing full web pages scrammed into a 2.8 screen as many have suggested, is really... pushing such a tiny screen far beyond its usefulness. web pages are designed for 14 or 17 screens or so. squeezing them down into 2.8 is nigh madness. it's possible - but vga vs qvga there isn't the factor (imho) :) Why is it that viewing web pages, which are designed for 14 or 17 screens is nigh madness, but viewing videos or movies, which are designed for even larger displays, somehow makes sense to you? Ken Young ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Uau!! I'll never expect that kind of conversation in the ml :) Let's see were it's going On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:15 PM, flexd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my bad, opened a installer for a program (totally legal i swear! :p), after several virus checks, yet it manages to try to send emails everywhere :( Thought avast had stopped it from sending, apparently not. So feel free to send hate mail to that gmail address :P Kristoffer James Olney skrev: I always find it better to cook it before eating it. but either way it's good. 2008/4/23 Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely my dog will have something to say about this thread... Tim Shannon wrote: Oh come on! You're just disagreeing because you have no idea what we're talking about. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Peter Abplanalp [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/23/08, Denis Shulyaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/23, Casey G [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. I agree:) not me! i'm totally against it! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ o0 Methril 0o ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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You see, this is a problem with Windows... flexd wrote: That was my bad, opened a installer for a program (totally legal i swear! :p), after several virus checks, yet it manages to try to send emails everywhere :( Thought avast had stopped it from sending, apparently not. So feel free to send hate mail to that gmail address :P Kristoffer James Olney skrev: I always find it better to cook it before eating it. but either way it's good. 2008/4/23 Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely my dog will have something to say about this thread... Tim Shannon wrote: Oh come on! You're just disagreeing because you have no idea what we're talking about. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Peter Abplanalp [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/23/08, Denis Shulyaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/23, Casey G [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. I agree:) not me! i'm totally against it! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/4/24 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah. I recently bought a laptop. It came with Vista. When I booted it I discovered a bluescreen which is a bug because now the bgcolour should be red. Anyway, no my Gentoo is running and everything works nice:) Blue screen indicates that windows has reached it's most stable state. Nothing will go worng from there. Of course it does rather limit what you can do now... -Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/4/23, Casey G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 4/23/08, Denis Shulyaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/23, Casey G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I agree:) -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: URL:http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774 Free your mind - Open(moko) your phone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/23/08, Denis Shulyaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/23, Casey G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. I agree:) not me! i'm totally against it! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Oh come on! You're just disagreeing because you have no idea what we're talking about. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Peter Abplanalp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/23/08, Denis Shulyaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/23, Casey G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. I agree:) not me! i'm totally against it! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I always find it better to cook it before eating it. but either way it's good. 2008/4/23 Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely my dog will have something to say about this thread... Tim Shannon wrote: Oh come on! You're just disagreeing because you have no idea what we're talking about. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Peter Abplanalp [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/23/08, Denis Shulyaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/23, Casey G [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. I agree:) not me! i'm totally against it! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Tel: 00447809457487 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Me too, very insightful. On 4/23/08, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/23/08, Denis Shulyaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/23, Casey G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I agree:) -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: URL:http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774 Free your mind - Open(moko) your phone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wednesday 23 April 2008 21:30, James Olney wrote: I always find it better to cook it before eating it. but either way it's good. 2008/4/23 Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely my dog will have something to say about this thread... You want to cook his dog? -- Andy / ScaredyCat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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That was my bad, opened a installer for a program (totally legal i swear! :p), after several virus checks, yet it manages to try to send emails everywhere :( Thought avast had stopped it from sending, apparently not. So feel free to send hate mail to that gmail address :P Kristoffer James Olney skrev: I always find it better to cook it before eating it. but either way it's good. 2008/4/23 Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely my dog will have something to say about this thread... Tim Shannon wrote: Oh come on! You're just disagreeing because you have no idea what we're talking about. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Peter Abplanalp [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/23/08, Denis Shulyaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/23, Casey G [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. I agree:) not me! i'm totally against it! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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You have created a thread with more than 2 replies... YOU ARE IN Wellcome :), Now can be a little more precise on that need and maybe we can help a little more --- Thinesh thusinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I need to get into the community... add me in.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community __ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! Disfruta de una bandeja de entrada más inteligente. http://es.docs.yahoo.com/mail/overview/index.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 3/31/08, Thinesh thusinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to get into the community... add me in.. Why? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/3/31, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why? Because it's cool to be a member of this great community. -- Jaroslaw Swierczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.archlinux.org | www.juvepoland.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:40:16 +0200 Jaroslaw Swierczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/3/31, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why? Because it's cool to be a member of this great community. Maybe it may help to use a subject and talk about openmoko ;) -- Ewan Marshall (ewanm89/Cap_J_L_Picard on irc) http://ewanm89.co.uk/ Geek by nature, Linux by choice. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Subject: Re: where The SMS message save?
Magnus Alvestad ha scritto: They are saved in evolution files in the root home directory. I don't remember the exact path, but it's something like: ~root/.evolution/memos/memos.evo Since When I'll have a freerunner I'd like to import my SMSs saved in my actual mobile, I'd like to know the exact syntax too... Do you have some examples to post? Thanks! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ Wouldn't it be easier, and probably more robust, to use the dbus api to insert the SMSes? See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dbus_device_API ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi all, I wrote a little gsmd testing framework, with the hope it can be used to stabilize (lib)gsmd. You can find an initial release on: http://chmeee.dyndns.org/om/testing_gsmd.html NB: I cross-posted to three mailing lists to get exposure (everybody should be able to write tests, though you need AT command set knowledge), please choose wisely at which list you reply. Bye, Kero. PS: I am on IRC freenode#openmoko for discussion and assistance, too. EST, currently ;) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Subject prefix for e-mails
Hi list, On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 06:39:48PM +0100, Galevsky wrote: I agree, all the info are already provided, and you have to setup your MUA to fit your needs. (sort your mails by sender, List-Id, ...whatever you want) Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I had no idea that MUAs cared about the List-Id header. I just found a way to set this up in Mutt, http://www.w3.org/2006/tools/EmailClientForMailingListFiltering#mutt. -c. -- Colan Schwartz Internet Consultant | Openject Consulting | http://www.openject.com/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Subject prefix for e-mails
Colan Schwartz wrote: Hi list, On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 06:39:48PM +0100, Galevsky wrote: I agree, all the info are already provided, and you have to setup your MUA to fit your needs. (sort your mails by sender, List-Id, ...whatever you want) Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I had no idea that MUAs cared about the List-Id header. I just found a way to set this up in Mutt, http://www.w3.org/2006/tools/EmailClientForMailingListFiltering#mutt. -c. These ( or variants of it ) may be of use too color index red black .*lists.openmoko.org.* color index red black ~h lists.openmoko.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Subject prefix for e-mails
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 11:24:57AM -0500, Colan Schwartz wrote: Would it be possible to add a descriptive prefix to each e-mail sent to this list? I don't mind getting a lot of e-mail, but if it's from a list, I'd like to know where it's coming from. That's what the List-Id header is for. If you are using a primitive email client that doesn't comprehend them, then upgrade. But please don't ask the list-owners to impose this obsolete and idiotic practice on everyone. ---Rsk ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Subject prefix for e-mails
Hi all, Would it be possible to add a descriptive prefix to each e-mail sent to this list? I don't mind getting a lot of e-mail, but if it's from a list, I'd like to know where it's coming from. I've got this working for all of my Mailman lists, so I know it's possible. (IIRC it needs to be set on the list config page.) How about something like [OMCommunity]. I don't really care what it is exactly, as long as it's identifiable. Thanks, -c. -- Colan Schwartz Internet Consultant | Openject Consulting | http://www.openject.com/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Subject prefix for e-mails
On Dec 27, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Colan Schwartz wrote: Would it be possible to add a descriptive prefix to each e-mail sent to this list? I don't mind getting a lot of e-mail, but if it's from a list, I'd like to know where it's coming from. Suggestion: hack your tool to sort on the List-Id: header. Redundant sorting info in the subject line is unnecessary, and also makes it harder yo see the entire subject line. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Subject prefix for e-mails
Colan Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would it be possible to add a descriptive prefix to each e-mail sent to this list? List-Id: List for OpenMoko community discussion community.lists.openmoko.org Isn't this header enough for you? -- JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Subject prefix for e-mails
On Dec 27, 2007 5:45 PM, Mikhail Gusarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colan Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would it be possible to add a descriptive prefix to each e-mail sent to this list? List-Id: List for OpenMoko community discussion community.lists.openmoko.org Isn't this header enough for you? I agree, all the info are already provided, and you have to setup your MUA to fit your needs. (sort your mails by sender, List-Id, ...whatever you want) Gal' ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Subject: Re: the volume of this group
Timbo wrote: Question 2: Is it possible to pre-order the final version? Not yet, but subscribe to the announce list to find out when you can. /Oliver ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Subject: Re: Neo 1973 is sold out...
Just a general comment, directed at no individual in particular, but at the general tone of this thread. ...particularly since accusations of condescension are being slung around pretty freely. Some of you may wish to reread some of your comments and evaluate to what extent members of the OpenMoko staff may find them condescending. In any case, I'd save the utterly unacceptable comments for when we find out that OpenMoko is trafficking in underage girls to finance production runs. If you start handing out evaluations like that just because OpenMoko hasn't yet solved all the problems of taking a small company/division/group from 0 to 100 in 2.4 seconds flat, your rhetoric doesn't leave much room for escalation. :-) --Jon Radel smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Subject: Re: Neo 1973 is sold out...
Hear, hear. Frankly, I'd much rather have Harald be able to spend time writing code than having to act as the customer service representative. If you want to track status, see the commitlog. ;-) /Simon Jon Radel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a general comment, directed at no individual in particular, but at the general tone of this thread. ...particularly since accusations of condescension are being slung around pretty freely. Some of you may wish to reread some of your comments and evaluate to what extent members of the OpenMoko staff may find them condescending. In any case, I'd save the utterly unacceptable comments for when we find out that OpenMoko is trafficking in underage girls to finance production runs. If you start handing out evaluations like that just because OpenMoko hasn't yet solved all the problems of taking a small company/division/group from 0 to 100 in 2.4 seconds flat, your rhetoric doesn't leave much room for escalation. :-) --Jon Radel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Subject: Re: Neo 1973 is sold out...
I'm glad someone came out and said this. I quit tracking that thread because of the level of venom expressed by the community to FIC. If Harald's blog is an indication of anything, it's that FIC is having a lot of problems right now. Give them time; the Neo has only been out for a few months. J. On 8/7/07, Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hear, hear. Frankly, I'd much rather have Harald be able to spend time writing code than having to act as the customer service representative. If you want to track status, see the commitlog. ;-) /Simon Jon Radel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a general comment, directed at no individual in particular, but at the general tone of this thread. ...particularly since accusations of condescension are being slung around pretty freely. Some of you may wish to reread some of your comments and evaluate to what extent members of the OpenMoko staff may find them condescending. In any case, I'd save the utterly unacceptable comments for when we find out that OpenMoko is trafficking in underage girls to finance production runs. If you start handing out evaluations like that just because OpenMoko hasn't yet solved all the problems of taking a small company/division/group from 0 to 100 in 2.4 seconds flat, your rhetoric doesn't leave much room for escalation. :-) --Jon Radel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: chording (was: yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards)
There's a *lot* of prior art in chord keyboards (as they're normally called), and they work really well in a lot of environments. I suspect I might like five nicely-spaced buttons so I could do one-handed typing on the phone. You can imagine a chord keyboard that fits in your pocket so you can type relatively inconspicuously (though you may get some odd looks). I think Steve Mann's group (wearable computers) at Toronto have done some work in this area. You can not imagine doing this with a conventional keyboard. Unless you're a cartoonist, in which case you can imagine several appropriate responses. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards
Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility: http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html via: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/23/1256213from=rss Also (blog comments squeezed out): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_keyboard http://xaphoon.com/dataegg/ (originally developed for NASA astronauts) http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/frogpad_ifrog_bluetooth_keyboard_review Cheers, FL0 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards
Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility: http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html Always better sticking with the convention 0-9 abc def type keyboard. Anything unconventional will split people 50:50, half will love it (mostly geeks), half won't. Besides, typing numbers by holding down multiple keys just seems silly. KISS = Keep it simple stupid. I'd much sooner see OLED buttons where the text can change to suit the task. --- G O Jones ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards
Giles Jones wrote: Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility: http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html Always better sticking with the convention 0-9 abc def type keyboard. Anything unconventional will split people 50:50, half will love it (mostly geeks), half won't. Besides, typing numbers by holding down multiple keys just seems silly. KISS = Keep it simple stupid. I'd much sooner see OLED buttons where the text can change to suit the task. Those are quite expensive per. I've used a chording keyboard. I found it hard to get 6WPM (Microwriter Agenda) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards
Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I'd much sooner see OLED buttons where the text can change to suit the task. Those are quite expensive per. True, we're not talking about this model or the next. I would sooner see a limited number of adaptable keys than 5 fairly fixed ones. --- G O Jones ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards
Giles Jones writes: Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Interesting blog post when you consider the custom cases possibility: http://trevors-trinkets.blogspot.com/2007/07/five-finger-keyboards.html Always better sticking with the convention 0-9 abc def type keyboard. Anything unconventional will split people 50:50, half will love it (mostly geeks), half won't. Besides, typing numbers by holding down multiple keys just seems silly. KISS = Keep it simple stupid. I'd much sooner see OLED buttons where the text can change to suit the task. There's a *lot* of prior art in chord keyboards (as they're normally called), and they work really well in a lot of environments. I suspect I might like five nicely-spaced buttons so I could do one-handed typing on the phone. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [via Slashdot] yet another alternative text input subject : Five finger keyboards
Giles Jones writes: Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I'd much sooner see OLED buttons where the text can change to suit the task. Those are quite expensive per. True, we're not talking about this model or the next. I would sooner see a limited number of adaptable keys than 5 fairly fixed ones. A key can be infinitely adaptable without OLED. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Home-Brew IR port. Was - Please Ignore RS232 message. The subject should read IrDA port... Sorry
stupid gmail... sorry joe On 5/11/07, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/11/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Andros writes: Chicken and egg hoss, there's also no bluetooth remotes out yet to make it worthwhile to have a bluetooth remote... I like the suggestion of a TV sets come with remotes so routinely that the usual chicken/egg problem doesn't seem to arise. Hmmm... which may point a different direction: as long as bluetooth is more expensive than IR... my thought was if you're going to provide a bluetooth remote... it should probably be a universal one since you're jamming enough smarts to work a bluetooth stack in... it'd be killer to have a gateway system that makes everything work together, whether I'm sitting at my laptop, or just walking around with my phone in my pocket. it'd also be cool to not have to walk back out into the house to turn the other TV off when I decide to go to bed -- Jeff O|||O -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Home-Brew IR port. Was - Please Ignore RS232 message. The subject should read IrDA port... Sorry
Jeff Andros writes: stupid gmail... sorry joe No problem my thought was if you're going to provide a bluetooth remote... it should probably be a universal one since you're jamming enough smarts to work a bluetooth stack in... it'd be killer to have a gateway system that makes everything work together, whether I'm sitting at my laptop, or just walking around with my phone in my pocket. That would be very cool -- but you'd sort of expect TVs (and DVD players etc) to come with universal remotes, and they seem to come with anything from that down to a special-purpose remote that can only be used with the unit it came with... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Ok I should write _asyncrone_ Voice over GPRS in the subject from the beginning ... ; )
Salve Andreas! On Fri, 02 Feb 2007, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: * Paul Wouters [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070202 18:18]: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded wrote: Also, most data plans specifically prohibit VoIP usage and may even prevent it technically. AFAIK, only T-Mobile did that, and they removed that clause a few months ago. Eplus does have that clause too. Who cares? When the communication is asyncron we could store the voice date in one file that even is encrypted... .. when we talking about asycrone Voice over GPRS - voice chat with a little delay... Cheers, rob ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
