Re: [shr] Headset detect?
Paul Fertser wrote: Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes: Paul wrote: Almost sounds as if you do not push the headset connector in far enough. I think there is something wrong with the FR headset socket. I have tried several headsets as well as several converter plugs for those headsets that have the bigger plugs. If I push the plug all the way in, I get sound in one channel only. Pull it a litle out, and I get nice stereo. Pull it some more out, and I get a very weak stereo. (Possibly missing the ground connection, so the two channels connect in series?) Pull further out, and weird things happens, sound in left only or right only, or perhaps the main speaker wakes up. Looks like you're trying to use incompatible 3-ring adapter/headphones. Obviously that won't work. The right pinout of FR's receptable is: tip: MIC RIGHT LEFT GND If you fully push a regular 3-ring jack in the socket, you'll have MIC input connected to your left headphone, RIGHT output to the right headphone and you'll short LEFT to GND by the base of your jack. Obviously if you pull it a little, you'll have your left headphone connected to the RIGHT output, your right headphone to the LEFT, and a proper ground connection. Use only properly wired 4-ring jack! Thanks. Do such converters exist at all though? I have been to quite a few phone shops, showing them the 3.5mm 3-ring headset connector, as well as the 2.5mm 4-ring earplug. (The latter works, but the headset has better bass and is more pleasant to wear.) No phone shop seems to have such a connector. Of course, these people doesn't actually seem to know that 2.5mm and 3.5mm plugs are standardized sizes, they keep asking what brand of phone it is. :-( Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2009 14:20:26 schrieb Helge Hafting: Paul Fertser wrote: Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes: Paul wrote: Almost sounds as if you do not push the headset connector in far enough. I think there is something wrong with the FR headset socket. I have tried several headsets as well as several converter plugs for those headsets that have the bigger plugs. If I push the plug all the way in, I get sound in one channel only. Pull it a litle out, and I get nice stereo. Pull it some more out, and I get a very weak stereo. (Possibly missing the ground connection, so the two channels connect in series?) Pull further out, and weird things happens, sound in left only or right only, or perhaps the main speaker wakes up. Looks like you're trying to use incompatible 3-ring adapter/headphones. Obviously that won't work. The right pinout of FR's receptable is: tip: MIC RIGHT LEFT GND If you fully push a regular 3-ring jack in the socket, you'll have MIC input connected to your left headphone, RIGHT output to the right headphone and you'll short LEFT to GND by the base of your jack. Obviously if you pull it a little, you'll have your left headphone connected to the RIGHT output, your right headphone to the LEFT, and a proper ground connection. Use only properly wired 4-ring jack! Thanks. Do such converters exist at all though? I have been to quite a few phone shops, showing them the 3.5mm 3-ring headset connector, as well as the 2.5mm 4-ring earplug. (The latter works, but the headset has better bass and is more pleasant to wear.) No phone shop seems to have such a connector. Of course, these people doesn't actually seem to know that 2.5mm and 3.5mm plugs are standardized sizes, they keep asking what brand of phone it is. :-( Helge Hafting There's at least one adapter known working (I own one of them), it's an MP35A from some Hong Kong distributor, have a look at:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Headset -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes: Looks like you're trying to use incompatible 3-ring adapter/headphones. Obviously that won't work. The right pinout of FR's receptable is: tip: MIC RIGHT LEFT GND If you fully push a regular 3-ring jack in the socket, you'll have MIC input connected to your left headphone, RIGHT output to the right headphone and you'll short LEFT to GND by the base of your jack. Obviously if you pull it a little, you'll have your left headphone connected to the RIGHT output, your right headphone to the LEFT, and a proper ground connection. Use only properly wired 4-ring jack! Thanks. Do such converters exist at all though? You can get 2.5mm 4-ring jack from some nokia-compatible (or other) headset as well as buy separately. Then solder the converter you need. IMHO the easiest way. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 02:20:26PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: No phone shop seems to have such a connector. Of course, these people doesn't actually seem to know that 2.5mm and 3.5mm plugs are standardized sizes, they keep asking what brand of phone it is. :-( Yes, the sizes are standardized, but the pinout is not, thus the question which brand of phone connects to the 2.5 mm end of the converter. See also the Wiki: https://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Analog_wired_Headset -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
Paul wrote: I though it was fixed, maybe not. When I connect the headset, I hear the audio from both the external speaker of the FR and the Left headset at the same time. (there is no sound from the right headset) I though the headset was autodetect... How can I fix it? Almost sounds as if you do not push the headset connector in far enough. I think there is something wrong with the FR headset socket. I have tried several headsets as well as several converter plugs for those headsets that have the bigger plugs. If I push the plug all the way in, I get sound in one channel only. Pull it a litle out, and I get nice stereo. Pull it some more out, and I get a very weak stereo. (Possibly missing the ground connection, so the two channels connect in series?) Pull further out, and weird things happens, sound in left only or right only, or perhaps the main speaker wakes up. Of course all those not quite in positions are unstable, the plug easily slides from one position to another. I notice that the socket is slightly recessed. Perhaps it was meant to sit a little bit further in, so that the plug could rest against the casing? And then someone in design moved it slightly on the circuit board, or moved the board itself? I experiment with putting o-rings on the pkug so it don't go too deep in. But then it has a tendency to slide out instead. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes: Paul wrote: Almost sounds as if you do not push the headset connector in far enough. I think there is something wrong with the FR headset socket. I have tried several headsets as well as several converter plugs for those headsets that have the bigger plugs. If I push the plug all the way in, I get sound in one channel only. Pull it a litle out, and I get nice stereo. Pull it some more out, and I get a very weak stereo. (Possibly missing the ground connection, so the two channels connect in series?) Pull further out, and weird things happens, sound in left only or right only, or perhaps the main speaker wakes up. Looks like you're trying to use incompatible 3-ring adapter/headphones. Obviously that won't work. The right pinout of FR's receptable is: tip: MIC RIGHT LEFT GND If you fully push a regular 3-ring jack in the socket, you'll have MIC input connected to your left headphone, RIGHT output to the right headphone and you'll short LEFT to GND by the base of your jack. Obviously if you pull it a little, you'll have your left headphone connected to the RIGHT output, your right headphone to the LEFT, and a proper ground connection. Use only properly wired 4-ring jack! -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
On Monday 30 March 2009, xChris wrote: Hi, I though it was fixed, maybe not. When I connect the headset, I hear the audio from both the external speaker of the FR and the Left headset at the same time. (there is no sound from the right headset) That is what would be expected if the output is set to the speaker rather than the headset. I assume you have a correctly wired headset. I though the headset was autodetect... How can I fix it? Check rules.yaml to see that there is a rule in place to handle headset insertion. Enable logging for frameworkd to see what's going on. It is possible that the insertion event is being reacted to, but some other app or rule is changing back to the stereoout state. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
Solved! I think something was wrong about the headphones (I have 2 x motorola (compatible type)) so, I used the second set and no problem... as I see, the plug of the first one is bad -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-shr--Headset-detect--tp2559116p2562313.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr] Headset detect?
Hi, I though it was fixed, maybe not. When I connect the headset, I hear the audio from both the external speaker of the FR and the Left headset at the same time. (there is no sound from the right headset) I though the headset was autodetect... How can I fix it? TIA chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-shr--Headset-detect--tp2559116p2559116.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
I though it was fixed, maybe not. When I connect the headset, I hear the audio from both the external speaker of the FR and the Left headset at the same time. (there is no sound from the right headset) I though the headset was autodetect... How can I fix it? Almost sounds as if you do not push the headset connector in far enough. Paul -- I have found the best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it. -Harry Truman http://www.nlpagan.net MHC - Mandriva 2009.0, Ubuntu 8.10, EasyPeasy 1.1rc2 (Before printing this mail: consider the environment!) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] Headset detect?
I pressed itI even reboot the FR I think I will reflash again the SHR Almost sounds as if you do not push the headset connector in far enough. Paul -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-shr--Headset-detect--tp2559116p2559303.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
