Re: Buzz Fix
If you use QTmoko (you should;), try the following settings in Neocontrol: Playback: 125 Sidetone: 3 Mic2: 1 Good luck, Linus I use a slightly different set of values (thanks to http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/ALSA/sound_setting.html): Speaker Playback: 116 Mono Playback: 120 Sidetone: 1 Mic2: 0 PS As you can see looking at /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state while using NeoControl Playback (while stating to refer to control.5: Mono Playback) refers to control.4 (Speaker Playback ). In order to change control.5 you have to edit the gsmhandset.state file manually. Regards Giacomo -- ## giacomo 'giotti' mariani gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-key 0x99bfa859 O ASCII ribbon campaign: stop HTML mail www.asciiribbon.org ## ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz Fix
Le 09.03.11 03:04, Wesley Frazier a écrit : I seem to have had the missofrtune of picking up an A5. My first few calls were fine but now Ive had a lot of complaints about strange background noiseses. If you use QTmoko (you should ;), try the following settings in Neocontrol: Playback: 125 Sidetone: 3 Mic2: 1 Good luck, Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz Fix
le Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:55:47 +0100 Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it a écrit: 2011-03-08@21:04 Wesley Frazier Anybody have any tips on mitigating the buzz? If I have a model with the buzz, will grabbing the GTA04 motherboard when it comes out correct it? try to low the gain of your mic with alsamixer during a call and if you like the result save the status in the scenario file(s) the drawback is you have to speak loud about gta04: it's a completely different hardware to be put inside your case, not an upgrade module for gta02 board... the only thing you keep from your current phone is just the plastic case and the display ;) (+the battery, maybe) (and I hope we don't have similar hw issues in the new gta04 too! ^_^) Nope, Hopefully the GTA04 will come with brand new issues, bugs problems. ;-D This is a joke, I'm waiting for one (to solve bugs) ! -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz Fix
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:19:13 +0100 Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: le Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:55:47 +0100 Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it a écrit: 2011-03-08@21:04 Wesley Frazier Anybody have any tips on mitigating the buzz? If I have a model with the buzz, will grabbing the GTA04 motherboard when it comes out correct it? try to low the gain of your mic with alsamixer during a call and if you like the result save the status in the scenario file(s) the drawback is you have to speak loud This worked for me on qtmoko, I was using a bluetooth headset most of the time but there are some issues with that approach. Here's a link from a previous ml posting about audio settings: http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/ALSA/sound_setting.html Good luck Wesley! Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz Fix
Pretty familiar with alsamixer, although what do I need to do to save the scenario file? Do you think it is worth my time to pursue getting the buzzfix or should I just wait for the GTA04 ? Whats the expected release date / price ? -- Forwarded message -- From: Alfa21 freerun...@my.is.it To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:55:47 +0100 Subject: Re: Buzz Fix 2011-03-08@21:04 Wesley Frazier Anybody have any tips on mitigating the buzz? If I have a model with the buzz, will grabbing the GTA04 motherboard when it comes out correct it? try to low the gain of your mic with alsamixer during a call and if you like the result save the status in the scenario file(s) the drawback is you have to speak loud about gta04: it's a completely different hardware to be put inside your case, not an upgrade module for gta02 board... the only thing you keep from your current phone is just the plastic case and the display ;) (+the battery, maybe) (and I hope we don't have similar hw issues in the new gta04 too! ^_^) -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. -- Wes Frazier Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. - Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz Fix
2011-03-09@12:05 Wesley Frazier Pretty familiar with alsamixer, although what do I need to do to save the scenario file? in a shell: alsactl -f /my/path/to/test.scenario store Do you think it is worth my time to pursue getting the buzzfix or should I just wait for the GTA04 ? Whats the expected release date / price ? I think you should try with the mixer. afaik there is no release date by now for the upcoming gta04. -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buzz Fix
I seem to have had the missofrtune of picking up an A5. My first few calls were fine but now Ive had a lot of complaints about strange background noiseses. The revision number of /proc/cpuinfo is 0350. So I think I am running an A5. Anybody know of anyone who still does the fix here in the U.S. ? I am of course willing to pay. Anybody have any tips on mitigating the buzz? If I have a model with the buzz, will grabbing the GTA04 motherboard when it comes out correct it? -- Wes Frazier Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. - Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz Fix
2011-03-08@21:04 Wesley Frazier Anybody have any tips on mitigating the buzz? If I have a model with the buzz, will grabbing the GTA04 motherboard when it comes out correct it? try to low the gain of your mic with alsamixer during a call and if you like the result save the status in the scenario file(s) the drawback is you have to speak loud about gta04: it's a completely different hardware to be put inside your case, not an upgrade module for gta02 board... the only thing you keep from your current phone is just the plastic case and the display ;) (+the battery, maybe) (and I hope we don't have similar hw issues in the new gta04 too! ^_^) -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC
Hello, I'd like to announce again a GSM buzz fix party in the DC metro area. There are 5 people interested so far. When we have a sufficient number of people, i'll announce the date and place. Please mark your interest on this wiki page or email me directly. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty#Washington.2C_DC_-_United_States Even if you don't have the buzz issue, stop by. We can try my batch of http://freebeer.org and brew some more (of course modifying and improving the recipe). Having no idea what the level of interest is, i'd like to reserve the right to limit the number of people attending. Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC
I'm all for it, esp. if 1024-fix or headset-bass-fix is possible. On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 11:01 -0400, Brian DeRocher wrote: Hello, I'd like to announce a GSM buzz fix party in the DC metro area. At this time i'm just gathering interest. When we have a sufficient number of people, i'll announce the date and place. Please mark your interest on this wiki page or email me directly. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty#Washington.2C_DC_-_United_States Even if you don't have the buzz issue, stop by. We can try my batch of http://freebeer.org and brew some more (of course modifying and improving the recipe). Having no idea what the level of interest is, i'd like to reserve the right to limit the number of people attending. Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- --Brian Kemp brian.k...@gmail.com PGP Key fingerprint: 1E5BF363 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC
Hello, I'd like to announce a GSM buzz fix party in the DC metro area. At this time i'm just gathering interest. When we have a sufficient number of people, i'll announce the date and place. Please mark your interest on this wiki page or email me directly. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty#Washington.2C_DC_-_United_States Even if you don't have the buzz issue, stop by. We can try my batch of http://freebeer.org and brew some more (of course modifying and improving the recipe). Having no idea what the level of interest is, i'd like to reserve the right to limit the number of people attending. Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC
Will it be possible to send in two Freerunners to have them Buzz-fixed? How much would it cost? Thanks Martin From: br...@derocher.org To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 11:01:08 -0400 Subject: GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC Hello, I'd like to announce a GSM buzz fix party in the DC metro area. At this time i'm just gathering interest. When we have a sufficient number of people, i'll announce the date and place. Please mark your interest on this wiki page or email me directly. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty#Washington.2C_DC_-_United_States Even if you don't have the buzz issue, stop by. We can try my batch of http://freebeer.org and brew some more (of course modifying and improving the recipe). Having no idea what the level of interest is, i'd like to reserve the right to limit the number of people attending. Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM buzz fix and freebeer brewing party in Washington, DC
Martin, On Saturday 09 October 2010 11:19:49 Martin Hagwall wrote: Will it be possible to send in two Freerunners to have them Buzz-fixed? The way i'll handle this is, people attending may offer to fix mailed in devices. And people needing fixes by mail may request a sponsor to work on their devices. So it's up to your sponsor. How much would it cost? Hard to say. Probably this is best left to an arrangement between people needing fixes and people offering to work on them. People with the skills and equipment to perform this procedure are hard to find. People needing fixes would pay for parts and shipping the device of course. Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Jan Girlich vollk...@cryptobitch.de writes: Am Mittwoch, den 03.03.2010, 09:00 +0100 schrieb Erik Andresen: Would be interested in the Bass-fix. We'll get that managed, too, if you're in or around Hamburg. I hope there is as nice documentation for this fix as there is for #1024 and buzz, b/c I don't know any. I hope you'll find the page [1] nice enough. Do not forget to order two extra 100uF tantalum caps for each bass-fix. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Hello there, Would be interested in the Bass-fix. greetings, Erik Am Freitag, den 26.02.2010, 20:33 +0100 schrieb Christian WeÃel: Hi folks, I am living also near Hamburg and I am also looking for contacts and help. I found someone at the Chaos Computer Club chapter in Hamburg who has experience with SMD soldering and is willing to change the resistor for me. I also found a dealer in Hamburg selling the resistor I need. BUT, he never did this form factor 0402 before nor a buzz fix. And I'm only getting one of two parts needed. So if you, Christian, or anyone else in or around Hamburg wants some soldering done on his phone this is the time to speak up and I see what I can get organized. Cheers Jan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. -- Mark Twain ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Am Mittwoch, den 03.03.2010, 09:00 +0100 schrieb Erik Andresen: Would be interested in the Bass-fix. We'll get that managed, too, if you're in or around Hamburg. I hope there is as nice documentation for this fix as there is for #1024 and buzz, b/c I don't know any. Anyway, please hurry a little with PMing the part numbers from reichelt.de to me. I'm gonna order tomorrow night, in about 20 hrs as of writing this email. Cheers Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Am Dienstag, den 02.03.2010, 00:42 +0100 schrieb Jan Girlich: Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 21:47 +0100 schrieb arne anka: So if you, Christian, or anyone else in or around Hamburg wants some soldering done on his phone this is the time to speak up and I see what I can get organized. here's one too! i am in hamburg and looking for the #1024 fix. Okay, guys, I'm just asking my contact if he's okay with that right now. I'll keep you updated on this and the next steps in the next days. Alright, guys. My contact asked me to tell you he never did those fixes before and he's not an expert, but he seems confident to me. To hit it off I suggest the following procedure: 1) You guys look up the parts you need for your fixes on http://reichelt.de/ and send me the links and the needed quantity by PM. 2) I'll order the parts for us all to save on the shipping and tell you by PM where and when to meet as soon as I got the parts. 3) You bring your phones and a handful € you think the work and parts are worth. Sounds good? Cheers Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Am Freitag, den 26.02.2010, 20:33 +0100 schrieb Christian Weßel: Hi folks, I am living also near Hamburg and I am also looking for contacts and help. I found someone at the Chaos Computer Club chapter in Hamburg who has experience with SMD soldering and is willing to change the resistor for me. I also found a dealer in Hamburg selling the resistor I need. BUT, he never did this form factor 0402 before nor a buzz fix. And I'm only getting one of two parts needed. So if you, Christian, or anyone else in or around Hamburg wants some soldering done on his phone this is the time to speak up and I see what I can get organized. Cheers Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Hello Jan, that sound good. Let's go on and see whats happen, I will partizipate. christian (wesse...@gmx.net) Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 18:54 +0100 schrieb Jan Girlich: Am Freitag, den 26.02.2010, 20:33 +0100 schrieb Christian Weßel: Hi folks, I am living also near Hamburg and I am also looking for contacts and help. I found someone at the Chaos Computer Club chapter in Hamburg who has experience with SMD soldering and is willing to change the resistor for me. I also found a dealer in Hamburg selling the resistor I need. BUT, he never did this form factor 0402 before nor a buzz fix. And I'm only getting one of two parts needed. So if you, Christian, or anyone else in or around Hamburg wants some soldering done on his phone this is the time to speak up and I see what I can get organized. Cheers Jan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Tel.: +49 171 357 59 57 eMail: wesse...@gmx.net Web: http://wesselch.homelinux.org Skype: wesselch signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
So if you, Christian, or anyone else in or around Hamburg wants some soldering done on his phone this is the time to speak up and I see what I can get organized. here's one too! i am in hamburg and looking for the #1024 fix. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 21:47 +0100 schrieb arne anka: So if you, Christian, or anyone else in or around Hamburg wants some soldering done on his phone this is the time to speak up and I see what I can get organized. here's one too! i am in hamburg and looking for the #1024 fix. Okay, guys, I'm just asking my contact if he's okay with that right now. I'll keep you updated on this and the next steps in the next days. Cheers Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 12:15 + schrieb Al Johnson: On Tuesday 23 February 2010, Jan Girlich wrote: Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 10:03 +0300 schrieb Vladimir Berezenko: В Пнд, 22/02/2010 в 16:00 +0100, Jan Girlich пишет: I'm afraid something might be gone wrong with my buzz fix. Had a look at it yesterday evening and noticed one of the soldering points is really weak. Maybe that could be a reason? Too little of a connection from the capacitor to the resistor? It might be that you have your mic dead. I've replaced my own because it came already dead. The symptoms were the same. You must cry loud to micro and on the other end someone hears you very silent. Any way to conclusively check if it's the mic? And how did you get it replaced? I wouldn't be able to do the soldering work myself. The short to ground at R4303 means that even with a working mic you will have little to no signal. You will need to get that fixed before you can test the mic. Got it confirmed by a friend yesterday, R4303 really is short circuited. Gotta get a replacement and find a suitable soldering gun. Anyone in or around Hamburg, Germany with the right tools to do some SMD soldering? Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Hi, since I got my OM debuzzed the mic volume went very soft and I just found out that it's due to the 2k2 resistor at pads R4303 being either short circuited or the wrong part (just the bridge it was before?). If you are living in Hamburg, Germany, have the appropriate tools and skills and maybe have the right resistor at hand or know someone who does, please drop me a message. I'll compensate the effort accordingly. Thanks Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help with buzz fix/SMD soldering in Hamburg, Germany
Hi folks, I am living also near Hamburg and I am also looking for contacts and help. Is there someone for helping next to Hamburg? christian Am Freitag, den 26.02.2010, 18:31 +0100 schrieb Jan Girlich: Hi, since I got my OM debuzzed the mic volume went very soft and I just found out that it's due to the 2k2 resistor at pads R4303 being either short circuited or the wrong part (just the bridge it was before?). If you are living in Hamburg, Germany, have the appropriate tools and skills and maybe have the right resistor at hand or know someone who does, please drop me a message. I'll compensate the effort accordingly. Thanks Jan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Tel.: +49 171 357 59 57 eMail: wesse...@gmx.net Web: http://wesselch.homelinux.org Skype: wesselch signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
On Tuesday 23 February 2010, Jan Girlich wrote: Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 10:03 +0300 schrieb Vladimir Berezenko: В Пнд, 22/02/2010 в 16:00 +0100, Jan Girlich пишет: I'm afraid something might be gone wrong with my buzz fix. Had a look at it yesterday evening and noticed one of the soldering points is really weak. Maybe that could be a reason? Too little of a connection from the capacitor to the resistor? It might be that you have your mic dead. I've replaced my own because it came already dead. The symptoms were the same. You must cry loud to micro and on the other end someone hears you very silent. Any way to conclusively check if it's the mic? And how did you get it replaced? I wouldn't be able to do the soldering work myself. The short to ground at R4303 means that even with a working mic you will have little to no signal. You will need to get that fixed before you can test the mic. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
On Sunday 21 February 2010, Jan Girlich wrote: Hi, after I got my gta02 A06 a hardware buzz fix late December last year the mic is very soft with the newest SHR unstable. So I had a look at all the different tips around and carefully read all emails of the thread Experiment: better sound on remote end and all links mentioned in there and tried all the suggested tweaks and got rid of any static or noise, but the mic still is so soft that I literally have to yell at my phone from close distance in order to be hardly understood by the callee. What could be the problem? Any suggestions on what I could try to set the mic volume to a usable level? Could the problem be related to the buzz fix? IIRC the buzz fix reduces the sensitivity of the mic input slightly. After fiddling around with the settings for a long time I ended up with setting the controls in the gsmhandset.state file back to these values. The other values are untouched. * control.48: 3 * control.63: 'Mic 2' * control.12: 7 * control.5:115 Controls 48 and 12 are on maximum, while control 5 has 12 steps remaining. You still have scope to make the mic a fair bit louder if you need to. 3, 5 and 121 would give the same volume level with less chance of distortion. Desc. Range ChanSetting Mic2 Capture Volume +12dB - +30dB / 6dB steps 48 0-3 Mono Sidetone Play Vol. -15dB - +6dB / 3dB steps12 0-7 Mono Playback Volume-73dB - +6dB / 1dB steps5 0-127 (but 0-47 are mute) Overall: -76dB - +42dB / 1dB steps = 119 steps (120 with mute) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
Am Montag, den 22.02.2010, 13:03 + schrieb Al Johnson: IIRC the buzz fix reduces the sensitivity of the mic input slightly. I'm afraid something might be gone wrong with my buzz fix. Had a look at it yesterday evening and noticed one of the soldering points is really weak. Maybe that could be a reason? Too little of a connection from the capacitor to the resistor? After fiddling around with the settings for a long time I ended up with setting the controls in the gsmhandset.state file back to these values. The other values are untouched. * control.48: 3 * control.63: 'Mic 2' * control.12: 7 * control.5:115 Controls 48 and 12 are on maximum, while control 5 has 12 steps remaining. You still have scope to make the mic a fair bit louder if you need to. 3, 5 and 121 would give the same volume level with less chance of distortion. Tried it. Still so soft that you have to yell really loud at the phone and only hardly can hear anything on the other end. I'm usually testing with my stereo, turning it on and putting the phone on the speaker. But I have to turn my stereo to levels it's getting uncomfortably loud just to hear a faint noise over the phone. Fresh out of ideas Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
On Monday 22 February 2010, Jan Girlich wrote: Am Montag, den 22.02.2010, 13:03 + schrieb Al Johnson: IIRC the buzz fix reduces the sensitivity of the mic input slightly. I'm afraid something might be gone wrong with my buzz fix. Had a look at it yesterday evening and noticed one of the soldering points is really weak. Maybe that could be a reason? Too little of a connection from the capacitor to the resistor? It can be hard to tell whether the joint is electrically good just by looking at it, and solder connections on those components are tiny. You really need to use a meter to test it, and I expect this was done by whoever did the fix for you, so it probably isn't the problem. If you are competent to test this, or know someone who is, the schematics and fix SOP are both available: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/ After fiddling around with the settings for a long time I ended up with setting the controls in the gsmhandset.state file back to these values. The other values are untouched. * control.48: 3 * control.63: 'Mic 2' * control.12: 7 * control.5:115 Controls 48 and 12 are on maximum, while control 5 has 12 steps remaining. You still have scope to make the mic a fair bit louder if you need to. 3, 5 and 121 would give the same volume level with less chance of distortion. Tried it. Still so soft that you have to yell really loud at the phone and only hardly can hear anything on the other end. I'm usually testing with my stereo, turning it on and putting the phone on the speaker. But I have to turn my stereo to levels it's getting uncomfortably loud just to hear a faint noise over the phone. So 3, 7, 127 is still too quiet? In that case something may be wrong. Check the buzz fix, and also that the hole in the case isn't blocked. Fresh out of ideas Jan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
Am Montag, den 22.02.2010, 17:25 + schrieb Al Johnson: It can be hard to tell whether the joint is electrically good just by looking at it, and solder connections on those components are tiny. You really need to use a meter to test it, and I expect this was done by whoever did the fix for you, so it probably isn't the problem. If you are competent to test this, or know someone who is, the schematics and fix SOP are both available: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Okay, the joint I suspected to be broken seems fine. It's the one on the left of the two red arrows in the above description. That's where my capacitor is connected to and I just checked the the resistance from the capacitor to the pad where the right red arrow points at. No measurable resistance, so the joint should be electrically good. Controls 48 and 12 are on maximum, while control 5 has 12 steps remaining. You still have scope to make the mic a fair bit louder if you need to. 3, 5 and 121 would give the same volume level with less chance of distortion. Tried it. Still so soft that you have to yell really loud at the phone and only hardly can hear anything on the other end. I'm usually testing with my stereo, turning it on and putting the phone on the speaker. But I have to turn my stereo to levels it's getting uncomfortably loud just to hear a faint noise over the phone. So 3, 7, 127 is still too quiet? In that case something may be wrong. Check the buzz fix, and also that the hole in the case isn't blocked. Checked it, the hole is free. Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
On Monday 22 February 2010, Jan Girlich wrote: Am Montag, den 22.02.2010, 17:25 + schrieb Al Johnson: It can be hard to tell whether the joint is electrically good just by looking at it, and solder connections on those components are tiny. You really need to use a meter to test it, and I expect this was done by whoever did the fix for you, so it probably isn't the problem. If you are competent to test this, or know someone who is, the schematics and fix SOP are both available: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Okay, the joint I suspected to be broken seems fine. It's the one on the left of the two red arrows in the above description. That's where my capacitor is connected to and I just checked the the resistance from the capacitor to the pad where the right red arrow points at. No measurable resistance, so the joint should be electrically good. Controls 48 and 12 are on maximum, while control 5 has 12 steps remaining. You still have scope to make the mic a fair bit louder if you need to. 3, 5 and 121 would give the same volume level with less chance of distortion. Tried it. Still so soft that you have to yell really loud at the phone and only hardly can hear anything on the other end. I'm usually testing with my stereo, turning it on and putting the phone on the speaker. But I have to turn my stereo to levels it's getting uncomfortably loud just to hear a faint noise over the phone. So 3, 7, 127 is still too quiet? In that case something may be wrong. Check the buzz fix, and also that the hole in the case isn't blocked. Checked it, the hole is free. And the rest of the buzz fix? Check the resistance of R4303 (mic case to gold ring) as described in the SOP. It should be 2k2. Also look for shorts between pads. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
Am Montag, den 22.02.2010, 21:36 + schrieb Al Johnson: And the rest of the buzz fix? Check the resistance of R4303 (mic case to gold ring) as described in the SOP. It should be 2k2. Also look for shorts between pads. Hm. It's hard to place the tips properly on the pads or ends of the resistor, but the only reading I got was 0 Ohm. Maybe the guy who did the buzz fix for me placed the bridge he removed back in? Or created a short? I can't see any short visually, but I didn't look with any magnifying glass yet. I'll have a further look into it. Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
В Пнд, 22/02/2010 в 16:00 +0100, Jan Girlich пишет: I'm afraid something might be gone wrong with my buzz fix. Had a look at it yesterday evening and noticed one of the soldering points is really weak. Maybe that could be a reason? Too little of a connection from the capacitor to the resistor? It might be that you have your mic dead. I've replaced my own because it came already dead. The symptoms were the same. You must cry loud to micro and on the other end someone hears you very silent. -- WBR, Vladimir Berezenko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
Am Dienstag, den 23.02.2010, 10:03 +0300 schrieb Vladimir Berezenko: В Пнд, 22/02/2010 в 16:00 +0100, Jan Girlich пишет: I'm afraid something might be gone wrong with my buzz fix. Had a look at it yesterday evening and noticed one of the soldering points is really weak. Maybe that could be a reason? Too little of a connection from the capacitor to the resistor? It might be that you have your mic dead. I've replaced my own because it came already dead. The symptoms were the same. You must cry loud to micro and on the other end someone hears you very silent. Any way to conclusively check if it's the mic? And how did you get it replaced? I wouldn't be able to do the soldering work myself. Cheers Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
Hi, after I got my gta02 A06 a hardware buzz fix late December last year the mic is very soft with the newest SHR unstable. So I had a look at all the different tips around and carefully read all emails of the thread Experiment: better sound on remote end and all links mentioned in there and tried all the suggested tweaks and got rid of any static or noise, but the mic still is so soft that I literally have to yell at my phone from close distance in order to be hardly understood by the callee. What could be the problem? Any suggestions on what I could try to set the mic volume to a usable level? Could the problem be related to the buzz fix? After fiddling around with the settings for a long time I ended up with setting the controls in the gsmhandset.state file back to these values. The other values are untouched. * control.48: 3 * control.63: 'Mic 2' * control.12: 7 * control.5:115 btw: What is the difference between /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default/gsmhandset and /usr/share/shr/scenarii/gsmhandset.state ? Both are mentioned on the wiki pages I read and latter is mentioned to be the one used by SHR although the first one exists on my install as well. Need any more info to help me out? Thanks Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
btw: What is the difference between /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default/gsmhandset This one is used by fsodeviced, i.e. the new stuff that's being used on SHR. and /usr/share/shr/scenarii/gsmhandset.state ? That's from the old days where we used to call alsactl to do the work. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mic volume extremely soft after buzz fix with SHR unstable
Am Sonntag, den 21.02.2010, 21:33 +0100 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: btw: What is the difference between /etc/freesmartphone/alsa/default/gsmhandset This one is used by fsodeviced, i.e. the new stuff that's being used on SHR. Good to know. So far I did all changes to both files, but will discard the old one now. Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz-Fix and #1024 @ FOSDEM
Since we have been asked: this is not the official rework done by Handheld Linux (that is a paid rework company in Munich using stereo microscopes). I am just forwarding the news. Just go there, look and ask. At FOSDEM this is a really free and open hardware rework. Tuxbrain is also there, openmoko.fr is there and many others. So you can also see the Qi Nanonote and the Sharp Netwalker. Nikolaus Am 06.02.2010 um 15:38 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: there is now a Buzz-Fix and #1024 fix opportunity at FOSDEM. Please go to the End of the hallway with the Stands. Opposite of the Room 1301 (Sallew Leon Cornil) you will find a booth where Openmokos and Nanonotes are shown. And a nice guy is sitting there with Soldering Iron waiting for your Openmoko. Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Handset sound volume issues (Re: Buzz fix)
-= Apertum =- i...@apertum.it writes: The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The same happened to me, but i didn't find a viable software cnfiguration to use the fr as a phone. What about you? I'm really looking forward to replace my nokia N70 with fr for calls... I agree. Me too i have especially the low volume problem (i'm with QtMoko). I tried everything via mixer software, but without any success: phone calls are always with tiny volume, in an open space or also in a car, it's really difficult to ear the call. My phone it's a V6 release and without any buzzfix. Do you all understand that buzzfix has nothing to do with the volume of sounds _you_ hear? If you cramp up the volume really high but the handset speaker is still low it just means you have a unit with useless caps (R3004/R3005 which are sometimes 1uF caps). There were plenty of those. And no one can tell what hardware revisions affected. Inability to get the handset speaker emit loud sound is a clear sign. Just short those useless caps (0402 size iirc). HTH -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Handset sound volume issues (Re: Buzz fix)
* Paul Fertser wrote, Il 06/01/2010 23:20: And no one can tell what hardware revisions affected. Inability to get the handset speaker emit loud sound is a clear sign. Just short those useless caps (0402 size iirc). Thanks a lot for the info. And where is exactly located these caps, how to recognize it? (I tried to find this info on the wiki, without success :-( ) -- Andrea ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Handset sound volume issues (Re: Buzz fix)
-= Apertum =- i...@apertum.it writes: And no one can tell what hardware revisions affected. Inability to get the handset speaker emit loud sound is a clear sign. Just short those useless caps (0402 size iirc). Thanks a lot for the info. And where is exactly located these caps, how to recognize it? Under the main shield (can take as long as 20 minutes to dismount :/). At the bottom right of the sound IC, the component placement pdf is now searchable (thanks to lindi-), so you should have no problems locating those. While you're at it probably do a bassfix as well. And i really advice to provide additional isolation between the upper can lid and the components. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Friday 01 January 2010 20:35:03 Jens Seidel wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). I own a rev. A5 freerunner and was seriously affected by the buzz problem. After applying the hardware fix the audio quality improved a lot. Before the fix there was no chance to use the FR as a phone. However, the audio quality was never as good as on a friends rev A7 FR (without buzz-fix). I did a lot of experimenting and tweaking with all possible audio parameters but the volume has always been either too low or distorted. He just uses the default audio configs and has nearly no problems with sound quality. So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. It is definetly worth it if you, or better said your call partner expierences a rather loud buzz. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. Hope that helps, Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.netwrote: On Friday 01 January 2010 20:35:03 Jens Seidel wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). I own a rev. A5 freerunner and was seriously affected by the buzz problem. After applying the hardware fix the audio quality improved a lot. Before the fix there was no chance to use the FR as a phone. However, the audio quality was never as good as on a friends rev A7 FR (without buzz-fix). I did a lot of experimenting and tweaking with all possible audio parameters but the volume has always been either too low or distorted. He just uses the default audio configs and has nearly no problems with sound quality. So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. It is definetly worth it if you, or better said your call partner expierences a rather loud buzz. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The same happened to me, but i didn't find a viable software cnfiguration to use the fr as a phone. What about you? I'm really looking forward to replace my nokia N70 with fr for calls... d Hope that helps, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
* Davide Scaini wrote, Il 04/01/2010 23:05: The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The same happened to me, but i didn't find a viable software cnfiguration to use the fr as a phone. What about you? I'm really looking forward to replace my nokia N70 with fr for calls... I agree. Me too i have especially the low volume problem (i'm with QtMoko). I tried everything via mixer software, but without any success: phone calls are always with tiny volume, in an open space or also in a car, it's really difficult to ear the call. My phone it's a V6 release and without any buzzfix. Any suggestion? -- Andrea ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. Jens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Jens Seidel jenssei...@users.sf.net wrote: I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). im curious how many people have played around with there mickeyterm settings. my phones audio is just as bad as any other phone ive had. not buzz fix. with audio as low as it may be. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[For Sale] Reduced Price: Freerunner w/ buzz fix + lots of accessories
I don't remember if this is a GTA02v5 or v6. I got it release day, so it's probably a v5. Buzz fix was applied by a tech at my work (not an official company service). Includes original accessories: * A/C Power Cord with adapters * Original Openmoko battery * Micro USB cable * Wired headset * Stylus/pen/laser/light * Openmoko brand carrying pouch * Original packaging Plus after-market accessories: * 2 x 8GB micro-SD cards (A-Data brand, verified compatible) * 2.5mm to 3.5mm stereo audio adapter (don't know if the mic connection passes through, but I have tested with standard 3.5mm headphones) * Female USB to male micro-USB adapter * Extra micro USB cable * Invisible Shield screen protector (still in box, not applied to screen) * 3 x mini stylus (COWON D2 stylus) All for $150 or best offer. -Steven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [For Sale] Freerunner w/ buzz fix and lots of accessories
Where do you live? On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Steven ** montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.commontgoss%2bopenmokocommun...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember if this is a GTA02v5 or v6. I got it release day, so it's probably a v5. Buzz fix was applied by a tech at my work (not an official company service). a href=http://img689.imageshack.us/i/2009111400resized.jpg/; target=_blankimg src=http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/355/2009111400resized.th.jpg; border=0//aa href=http://img199.imageshack.us/i/20091114220132resized.jpg/; target=_blankimg src=http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1244/20091114220132resized.th.jpg; border=0 //aa href=http://img690.imageshack.us/i/20091114221653resized.jpg/; target=_blankimg src=http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/6507/20091114221653resized.th.jpg; border=0//a Includes original accessories: * A/C Power Cord with adapters * Original Openmoko battery * Micro USB cable * Wired headset * Stylus/pen/laser/light * Openmoko brand carrying pouch * Original packaging Plus after-market accessories: * 2 x 8GB micro-SD cards (A-Data brand, verified compatible) * 2.5mm to 3.5mm stereo audio adapter (don't know if the mic connection passes through, but I have tested with standard 3.5mm headphones) * Female USB to male micro-USB adapter * Extra micro USB cable * Invisible Shield screen protector (still in box, not applied to screen) * 3 x mini stylus (COWON D2 stylus) All for $200 or best offer. -Steven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [For Sale] Freerunner w/ buzz fix and lots of accessories
Items will ship from Iowa, USA -Steven On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you live? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon Are you getting my emails? There's a serious problem... Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
2009/8/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon Are you getting my emails? There's a serious problem... Rui Hey I'm trying to reach you trough private mail have you receive it? I have not receive anything from you ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:31:59PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/8/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon Are you getting my emails? There's a serious problem... Rui Hey I'm trying to reach you trough private mail have you receive it? I have not receive anything from you I received your email, but since you're not receiving mine, I'll try to email you through gmail. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
I'm reading this. Is that what your asking? Cheers Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon Are you getting my emails? There's a serious problem... Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
Dnia 2009-08-11, wto o godzinie 12:16 +0200, Davide Scaini pisze: ...i want it fixed too!!! is there somewhere in europe where i can send my fr for fix? You could in the past - read Community Updates: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009 I do not know if it is still possible to send FR for fix, but you can try - let us know if you succeed. -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
is there somewhere in europe where i can send my fr for fix? I know this is a long shot, but anyone know of a place that does bug fixing in Africa ( hopefully South Africa ) ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
David Samblas Martinez wrote: There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon Very nice pics :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Buzz-fix-party-at-Debconf09-pics-aviable-%3A%29-tp3420258p3443937.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
On 14 Aug 2009, at 10:04, Patryk Benderz wrote: Dnia 2009-08-11, wto o godzinie 12:16 +0200, Davide Scaini pisze: ...i want it fixed too!!! is there somewhere in europe where i can send my fr for fix? You could in the past - read Community Updates: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/June_25%2C_2009 I do not know if it is still possible to send FR for fix, but you can try - let us know if you succeed. I assume that handheld-linux.com are reputable. They announce the Buzz Fix resumes in 10 days time: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework From where I'm standing it feels like the handling of the buzz fix is / was a bit of a piss-take. The was no post to the announce list, the UK supplier didn't bother to email me about it. Because I happened not to be reading the mailing lists at the time, I knew nothing about it. I don't know if the subsidisation of this that Openmoko made is actually worth anything: the €3 charged is nothing compared to the postage. I kinda really resent Openmoko for that. Am I being unreasonable? I guess I should just count myself lucky that I managed to find out about this in time, whilst the repair is still available at all. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
David Reyes Samblas Martinez a écrit : There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon Nice pics ! Now I need one of these Debian bottle of wine... Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon There's also http://picasaweb.google.com/RuiMSeabra/DebConf9OpenMokoBuzzFixParty Rui -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
...i want it fixed too!!! is there somewhere in europe where i can send my fr for fix? thanks d ps: nice pictures, very geek meeting On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:05:19AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon There's also http://picasaweb.google.com/RuiMSeabra/DebConf9OpenMokoBuzzFixParty Rui -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buzz fix party at Debconf09 pics aviable :)
There are some more from other camera unpublished yet but a great bunch of them are avialable with comments in spanish and english english version here http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/there-and-back-againtuxbrain-debconf09-pics I'm working on the subtitles of the vids I hope I can finish them soon -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner with buzz-fix for sale
Alas the dream didn't come true for me. I need a phone with a reliable calendar/alarm system, and I don't see any of the Openmoko distros delivering that any time soon. I'm going to pick up a Palm Pre, since that at least has a real Linux under the hood. My Neo is thus for sale. GTA02 S/N 8A8604276 charger + foreign adapters two batteries headphones pouch original box (with a big mailing label on it) screen protector buzz fix applied by SDG Systems boots fine $200 I'm in Silicon Valley, and will mail it anywhere in the US for free. -- Dirk Bergstrom openm...@otisbean.com http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
some troubles with DIY buzz fix.
Hello, list. My heart is always strongly hurt that I realise that person at other side of the line hear that buzz, Germany is far from Saint-Petersburg, so I were brave enought to try doing buzz-fix with my own hands. Should notice that I never did soldering of small parts. Measure that resisance, got 2k2 and bought 9 capacitors (had to go shop 2 times). I can tell now that details on old videocard are really huge. Slowly getting 'skill', I finally soldered 4th capacitor (3 first got broken legs, 3rd was very close to being final), buzz gone almost completely - only very distant, near 5% of buzz sometimes heard, GSM sounds excellent from any point of view, all seem OK, expept one thing... That is touchscreen. Foto with Sketch with horizontal and vertical parallel lines drawn by finger: http://www.bsdmn.com/moko/touchproblem.tif Can anyone help me with advice? Should I resolder, desolder, buy other capacitor, or may be it is completely broken because it is very heat sensitive? I really want to avoid doing that procedure once again... Or should i start patching literki to be in upper part of screen again? LCD itself works fine. I was ready to share success story :( Gennady. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: some troubles with DIY buzz fix.
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com wrote: Hello, list. My heart is always strongly hurt that I realise that person at other side of the line hear that buzz, Germany is far from Saint-Petersburg, so I were brave enought to try doing buzz-fix with my own hands. Should notice that I never did soldering of small parts. Measure that resisance, got 2k2 and bought 9 capacitors (had to go shop 2 times). I can tell now that details on old videocard are really huge. Slowly getting 'skill', I finally soldered 4th capacitor (3 first got broken legs, 3rd was very close to being final), buzz gone almost completely - only very distant, near 5% of buzz sometimes heard, GSM sounds excellent from any point of view, all seem OK, expept one thing... That is touchscreen. I think, as i could see in the image, that your LCD is borked. The LCD internal parts are really sensitive to hot temperatures. I recommend to replace the LCD. Foto with Sketch with horizontal and vertical parallel lines drawn by finger: http://www.bsdmn.com/moko/touchproblem.tif Can anyone help me with advice? Should I resolder, desolder, buy other capacitor, or may be it is completely broken because it is very heat sensitive? I really want to avoid doing that procedure once again... Or should i start patching literki to be in upper part of screen again? LCD itself works fine. I was ready to share success story :( Gennady. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community It's a success story, it improves your soldering skills. Those are the warnings of DIY. -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party Barcelona, the movie
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:54:02AM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Hm, i'm sorry but how to actually see the movie? The link David mentions leads only to some blog post with a picture, text and a link to some swf :-/ I think it's this one (in three different resolutions): http://www.dailymotion.com/cdn/FLV-80x60/video/x9snk3?key=8a04a19aba46505a407d1fce1b492fce13d8710 http://www.dailymotion.com/cdn/FLV-320x240/video/x9snk3?key=8a04a19aba46505a407d1fce1b492fce13d8710 http://www.dailymotion.com/cdn/H264-512x384/video/x9snk3?key=8a04a19aba46505a407d1fce1b492fce13d8710 It's been a while since I've last seen a C= t-shirt anywhere. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Commande groupée FR GTA02 A6 + buzz fix
Bon, uniquement en français, cette fois, étant donné qu'il s'agit d'une commande groupée pour la france... J'ai mis un post sur openmoko-fr.org à ce sujet. En voici un extrait : J'aimerais acheter un FR mais je n'ai pas d'argent à dépenser en ce moment. Comme j'ai quelques connaissances en électronique, je pourrais acheter un lot de 5 GTA02 A6 et appliquer moi-même le buzz fix. Dans ce cas, je revendrais chaque FR à 200 euros pièce (buzz fix inclus). Il me restera aussi un debug board supplémentaire que je revendrais 70 euros. ... je suis vraiment à cours d'argent et, même d'occasion, cette dépense reste trop peu indispensable. Et comme l'électronique est un peu mon domaine, je pense vraiment pouvoir faire d'une pierre deux coups : revendre à un prix honnête 4 FR NEUFS buzzfixés, et m'en procurer un à peu de frais. -- Christophe. Le 30 juin 2009 11:38, Christophe Drevet christophe.dre...@gmail.com a écrit : Hello, I'd be willing to purchase a FR. Since I'm a little short in money these times BUT I do have some skills in electronic, I tought that I could purchase a pack of A6 FR, apply the buzz fix and resell them to guys in france for 210 euros (including shipping fee and buzz fix applied). I would also sell a debug board for 80 euros (including shipping fee). Please let me know if you are interested in this operation. Et en français : J'aimerais acheter un FR mais je n'ai pas tellement d'argent à dépenser en ce moment. Comme j'ai quelques connaissances en électronique, je pourrais acheter un lot de GTA02 A6 et appliquer moi-même le buzz fix. Dans ce cas, je revendrais chaque FR à 210 euros pièce (frais de port et buzz fix inclus pour un envoi en france métropolitaine). Il me restera aussi un debug board supplémentaire que je revendrais 80 euros (frais de port inclus). N'hésitez pas à me contacter si vous êtes intéressé. -- Christophe. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party Barcelona, the movie
David Reyes Samblas Martinez a écrit : Shame on me for been so late but better late than never, I have uploaded the video we make at Barcelona Buzz fix party and also make subtitles in english , sure it can be improved but at least I believe it will let you follow the conversations. http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/buzz-fix-party-barcelona-movie I hope you enjoy it as much as we in the party. For your info DS=David Samblas VR=Victor Remolina RC=Rafael Campos JPL=Jose Luis Perez Diez PE=Pau Espin S= Sergi A=Alberto ?=I don't know who was talking Thanks a lot for this really interesting video ! /swap38 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix party Barcelona, the movie
swap38 swa...@openmoko-fr.org writes: David Reyes Samblas Martinez a écrit : Shame on me for been so late but better late than never, I have uploaded the video we make at Barcelona Buzz fix party and also make subtitles in english , sure it can be improved but at least I believe it will let you follow the conversations. http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/buzz-fix-party-barcelona-movie Thanks a lot for this really interesting video ! Hm, i'm sorry but how to actually see the movie? The link David mentions leads only to some blog post with a picture, text and a link to some swf :-/ -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Madrid Buzz Fix Party ,the photos
At http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/buzz-fix-party-madridphotos you can find Pictures commented on the las Buzz fix party on Madrid. Best regards :) -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buzz fix party Barcelona, the movie
Shame on me for been so late but better late than never, I have uploaded the video we make at Barcelona Buzz fix party and also make subtitles in english , sure it can be improved but at least I believe it will let you follow the conversations. http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/buzz-fix-party-barcelona-movie I hope you enjoy it as much as we in the party. For your info DS=David Samblas VR=Victor Remolina RC=Rafael Campos JPL=Jose Luis Perez Diez PE=Pau Espin S= Sergi A=Alberto ?=I don't know who was talking -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Selling Neo FreeRunner GTA02 A6 + buzz fix
Hello, I'd be willing to purchase a FR. Since I'm a little short in money these times BUT I do have some skills in electronic, I tought that I could purchase a pack of A6 FR, apply the buzz fix and resell them to guys in france for 210 euros (including shipping fee and buzz fix applied). I would also sell a debug board for 80 euros (including shipping fee). Please let me know if you are interested in this operation. Et en français : J'aimerais acheter un FR mais je n'ai pas tellement d'argent à dépenser en ce moment. Comme j'ai quelques connaissances en électronique, je pourrais acheter un lot de GTA02 A6 et appliquer moi-même le buzz fix. Dans ce cas, je revendrais chaque FR à 210 euros pièce (frais de port et buzz fix inclus pour un envoi en france métropolitaine). Il me restera aussi un debug board supplémentaire que je revendrais 80 euros (frais de port inclus). N'hésitez pas à me contacter si vous êtes intéressé. -- Christophe. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:52:24 pm Denis Johnson wrote: I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a buzz fix party or if there is somewhere overseas I can send my Freerunner to get fixed. I guess the first question to ask yourself is do I have the buzz problem ? I've been really happy with mine in the UK, US and here in Australia and nobody has complained about any buzzing (yet). I think I'd only consider this if it was causing me problems.. Just my 2c! Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
On 17/06/2009 10:28 PM, Chris Samuel wrote: I guess the first question to ask yourself is do I have the buzz problem ? Yeah I'll second that. For the period mine was in active use I never once had the issue. I'm on vodafone btw. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko Neo Freerunner Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Denis Johnson wrote: I have asked this before but the thread seems to have fizzled. I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a buzz fix party or if there is somewhere overseas I can send my Freerunner to get fixed. I do not have the equipment or expertize to do it myself. Any recommendations welcome. regards Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community First and second complaints that my handset suffers from the buzz last night. Anyone handy with a soldering iron in Canberra feel like a buzz fix party? I'll CC this to the Canberra Linux Users Group mailing list since there are several people on that list who were part of the group purchase and I'm pretty sure they don't all subscribe to this list. Cheers, - -Ian - -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ - -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Eric S. Raymond, 2005 - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.5) iD8DBQFKOahIrQR5CkD4dNARArB2AJ49SxKoLk2Tk6f4lh3W8fxbCo5yuQCeKbG2 L0twhpzb2pgdGN6JBBRBInc= =p2be -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
I am from Uruguay and don't have any other Openmoko user nearby so I will go with the SOP and the blueprints to a local electronics store to have it fixed. I guess they won't charge me much. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 23:36, Ian Munsie darkstarsw...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Denis Johnson wrote: I have asked this before but the thread seems to have fizzled. I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a buzz fix party or if there is somewhere overseas I can send my Freerunner to get fixed. I do not have the equipment or expertize to do it myself. Any recommendations welcome. regards Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community First and second complaints that my handset suffers from the buzz last night. Anyone handy with a soldering iron in Canberra feel like a buzz fix party? I'll CC this to the Canberra Linux Users Group mailing list since there are several people on that list who were part of the group purchase and I'm pretty sure they don't all subscribe to this list. Cheers, - -Ian - -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ - -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Eric S. Raymond, 2005 - -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.5) iD8DBQFKOahIrQR5CkD4dNARArB2AJ49SxKoLk2Tk6f4lh3W8fxbCo5yuQCeKbG2 L0twhpzb2pgdGN6JBBRBInc= =p2be -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Chris Samuelch...@csamuel.org wrote: I guess the first question to ask yourself is do I have the buzz problem ? I've been really happy with mine in the UK, US and here in Australia and nobody has complained about any buzzing (yet). I think I'd only consider this if it was causing me problems.. Fair enough point. I thought I did not have the problem either, and certainly nobody reported it to me while I was using QTe. Then a couple of months ago I switched to SHR-Testing and struggle from both a volume level problem (too quiet) and a number of people have reported buzzing at their enf while I hear them perfectly and buzz free. I am assuming that the distro change is simply a circumstantial data point and that the problem has always been there but nobody has mentioned it until now. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:24 PM, NeilBrownne...@suse.de wrote: You can send it to sdgsystems.com. You first purchase the freerunner audio quality enhancement on the website. This costs $0 plus postage. Their postage price is around $AU100 sent by international courier. If you ask, they will sent it be USPS and credit you the difference. I asked for USPS first class which according to http://ircalc.usps.gov/ is about $US11. It cost me $AU16 to post it from .au to .us. Thanks for that. Should I also consider any other hardware fix at the same time ? cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
On Tue, June 16, 2009 4:20 pm, Denis Johnson wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:24 PM, NeilBrownne...@suse.de wrote: You can send it to sdgsystems.com. You first purchase the freerunner audio quality enhancement on the website. This costs $0 plus postage. Their postage price is around $AU100 sent by international courier. If you ask, they will sent it be USPS and credit you the difference. I asked for USPS first class which according to http://ircalc.usps.gov/ is about $US11. It cost me $AU16 to post it from .au to .us. Thanks for that. Should I also consider any other hardware fix at the same time ? They don't offer any other hardware fix... NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
2009/6/16 NeilBrown ne...@suse.de: You can send it to sdgsystems.com. You first purchase the freerunner audio quality enhancement on the website. This costs $0 plus postage. Their postage price is around $AU100 sent by international courier. If you ask, they will sent it be USPS and credit you the difference. I asked for USPS first class which according to http://ircalc.usps.gov/ is about $US11. It cost me $AU16 to post it from .au to .us. i'm interested in this, and i'm in nz. were there any issues with duty, when it goes into the us/aus? does anyone here have any knowledge of what might happen when it comes into nz? for it to be insured, a declaration needs to be made as to the value, and of course this is the value it's taxed at on entering a country. i don't want to be hit with some big fee. any ideas? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix
Tomas Riveros Schober ha scritto: Hello List, I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot). Hello, yesterday, in a Buzz fix party in Milan, it happen something very similar to this. One Freerunner was fixed, but the mic was busted. Luckily it was a test unit used for test by Eshopen. Another point is that the fix was tried with a traditional solder, not with a microscope soldier, so we think that this was the cause. I suggest who want to try the fix to take a lot of care, and to search for an specialist center. Thank again to Eshopen for its help to help us in fixing our Openmoko. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Michele Rendamichele.re...@gmail.com wrote: Tomas Riveros Schober ha scritto: Hello List, I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot). Hello, yesterday, in a Buzz fix party in Milan, it happen something very similar to this. One Freerunner was fixed, but the mic was busted. We had some of those at fix-party in Barcelona (first Fix party). As you are doing the fix in a hurry, you could short-circuit some of the small R's. But we didn't bork any Freerunner. LAter, on the lab, we checked the phones and they get fixed, adn works perfectly. Check the circuit diagram carefully and you see a short circuit (i'm sure). Luckily it was a test unit used for test by Eshopen. Another point is that the fix was tried with a traditional solder, not with a microscope soldier, so we think that this was the cause. I suggest who want to try the fix to take a lot of care, and to search for an specialist center. Thank again to Eshopen for its help to help us in fixing our Openmoko. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Greetings -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Rafael Camposmeth...@gmail.com wrote: Check the circuit diagram carefully and you see a short circuit (i'm sure). Last week, my buzz-fixed FR became un-buzzfixed again. Someone came with a soldering iron and a steady hand to re-fix it. During that operation, he made a bridge between de 2nd and 3rd patch to the right of the 2 capacitors. He was able to get the tin out again (no problem), but it appears that this sort of thing happens very quickly... Christ van Willegen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix
Thanks to everyone that answered. I will ask my friend to re-check for shorts and see what he finds. regards Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to get buzz fix in Australia
I have asked this before but the thread seems to have fizzled. I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a buzz fix party or if there is somewhere overseas I can send my Freerunner to get fixed. I do not have the equipment or expertize to do it myself. Any recommendations welcome. regards Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 13:52 +1000, Denis Johnson wrote: I have asked this before but the thread seems to have fizzled. I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a buzz fix party or if there is somewhere overseas I can send my Freerunner to get fixed. I do not have the equipment or expertize to do it myself. Any recommendations welcome. regards Denis Hi Dennis, Short answer: SDG Systems, who are based in the USA, will do buzz fixes for people outside of the US (including NZ): http://sdgsystems.com/estore/cart.php?target=categorycategory_id=17 Long answer: I emailed Brian at SDG Systems, and got this response: On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:37 AM, David Murrell wrote: Hi, I have a A6 Freerunner in need of a buzz fix, do you provide said fixes for people outside of the United States? Regards, -- David Murrell David. Yes, we are offering the fix to those outside the US as well. If interested, please follow the process to submit the order at our online store and select pay for the shipping method you want us to use to return the phone to you. You can use whatever shipping method you prefer to send the phone to us. Let me know if you have any additional questions. Thanks, Brian Hope this helps, Cheers, David signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia
On Tue, June 16, 2009 1:52 pm, Denis Johnson wrote: I have asked this before but the thread seems to have fizzled. I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a buzz fix party or if there is somewhere overseas I can send my Freerunner to get fixed. I do not have the equipment or expertize to do it myself. Any recommendations welcome. You can send it to sdgsystems.com. You first purchase the freerunner audio quality enhancement on the website. This costs $0 plus postage. Their postage price is around $AU100 sent by international courier. If you ask, they will sent it be USPS and credit you the difference. I asked for USPS first class which according to http://ircalc.usps.gov/ is about $US11. It cost me $AU16 to post it from .au to .us. NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Microphone busted after buzz-fix
Hello List, I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot). Any suggestions on how to diagnose it correctly? I already loaded the A7 state file (which works wonders on the other neo), tried different distros. Is there any kind of warranty (i know there's not an official one) from openmoko in case i need to ship it back to taiwan or something? Since I'm in Chile and no local distributor is available, I had to perform the fix unoficially. Thanks for the time Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix
Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.cl writes: I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot). Give your friend schematics and the non-working phone and ask him to check circuits carefully. Most probably he left a short there that he will simply remove after finding it. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner with buzz fix applied for sale in the UK. £99, no reserve on eBay.
Hi all, For those who are looking for a Freerunner in the UK, I have mine (with buzz fix applied) listed for sale on eBay.co.uk. It has a start price of £99 and no reserve. More info can be found at: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190312832538 Regards, Peter. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Do I need the buzz-fix?
Hey all, I'm getting a bit confused about whether I need to get the buzz-fix operation done. Since I switched to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state a few days ago I've generally been satisfiied with my audio quality - a couple of people I've called have mentioned a small amount of buzz on occasion, but that the audio quality was tolerable. With most other state files I've had so much static on the line people on the other end could barely understand me. In http://n2.nabble.com/Debuzzing-tp2736682p3005844.html - Dr. N stated The Buzz rework is only required if you have the Buzz problem. If your device does not, there is no need to rework. My personal estimate is that 5% of users have experienced it. However, I've seen other statements like arne anka in http://n2.nabble.com/Debuzzing-tp2736682p3007627.html state conclusion: everyone having access to the buzz fix should take hold of it. Is there some consensus on this? Should everyone get the buzz-fix? If not - how do I tell if I should get the buzz fix. Thanks, Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do I need the buzz-fix?
If you generally stay in the same area and don't experience buzz you may not need it. If you move a lot in some conditions you may experience it or may not, so you should get a fix just in case. In nutshell - buzz is something every not reworked Freerunner has. You may experience it or you may not depending on conditions. But your phone still has it if not reworked. Leonti On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Warren Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Hey all, I'm getting a bit confused about whether I need to get the buzz-fix operation done. Since I switched to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state a few days ago I've generally been satisfiied with my audio quality - a couple of people I've called have mentioned a small amount of buzz on occasion, but that the audio quality was tolerable. With most other state files I've had so much static on the line people on the other end could barely understand me. In http://n2.nabble.com/Debuzzing-tp2736682p3005844.html - Dr. N stated The Buzz rework is only required if you have the Buzz problem. If your device does not, there is no need to rework. My personal estimate is that 5% of users have experienced it. However, I've seen other statements like arne anka in http://n2.nabble.com/Debuzzing-tp2736682p3007627.html state conclusion: everyone having access to the buzz fix should take hold of it. Is there some consensus on this? Should everyone get the buzz-fix? If not - how do I tell if I should get the buzz fix. Thanks, Warren -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Do I need the buzz-fix?
I would like to know which hardware revision my phone has. I'm sure this has been explained again and again, and I'm sorry to keep beating the dead horse, but I still don't know what revision I have. I'm pretty sure it's before A7, but is it A5 or A6?... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The real gsmhandset.state [was: Re: Buzz fix difficulty [was Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix]]
Am Sa 2. Mai 2009 schrieb Matthias Apitz: El día Saturday, May 02, 2009 a las 03:54:55AM +0200, Joerg Reisenweber escribió: The one and only *real* gsmhandset.state (for all FR!): http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state :-) I've tried this yesterday and for me it gives a strong, no tolerable, local echo, even acoustic feedback between micro y speaker; sorry for not giving positiv feedback :-( Echo can't be controlled by adjusting mixer settings. It needs AT%N correct modem init. How can I do that in Om2008.9? Thx Maybe backport the changes that were introduced to OM2008.12 wrt AT%N? AFAIK there's no working support for this in OM2008.9. I suggest you use a more recent distro, preferably one based on FSO. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The real gsmhandset.state [was: Re: Buzz fix difficulty [was Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix]]
Am Mi 29. April 2009 schrieb Matthias Apitz: El día Tuesday, April 28, 2009 a las 04:13:22PM +0200, Joerg Reisenweber escribió: The one and only *real* gsmhandset.state (for all FR!): http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state :-) I've tried this yesterday and for me it gives a strong, no tolerable, local echo, even acoustic feedback between micro y speaker; sorry for not giving positiv feedback :-( Echo can't be controlled by adjusting mixer settings. It needs AT%N correct modem init. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The real gsmhandset.state [was: Re: Buzz fix difficulty [was Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix]]
Am Mi 29. April 2009 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez: The buzz fix also lowers the sensibility of the microphone avoiding the echo issue if the speaker volume is raised, I guess that is the problem and that why I only recomend this alsa state to A7 or Buzzfixed A6-A5 No it should work for non-fixed GTA02 as well as for fixed ones. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2121#comment:2. Though your remark regarding sensitivity is correct, anyway the conclusion isn't /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The real gsmhandset.state [was: Re: Buzz fix difficulty [was Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix]]
El día Saturday, May 02, 2009 a las 03:54:55AM +0200, Joerg Reisenweber escribió: The one and only *real* gsmhandset.state (for all FR!): http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state :-) I've tried this yesterday and for me it gives a strong, no tolerable, local echo, even acoustic feedback between micro y speaker; sorry for not giving positiv feedback :-( Echo can't be controlled by adjusting mixer settings. It needs AT%N correct modem init. How can I do that in Om2008.9? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz on GTA02v5 with latest SHR-Testing, do I need buzz fix ?
Hi Denis, A5 too, afected by buzzing here, now shr testing +Buzz fix+a7 alsa state file and no buzz at all. So seems is a hardware issue. I'm from Spain, but a buzz is buzz in any place it happens :) Regarsd 2009/4/29 Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com: Currently running SHR Testing from around 22 April, on my GTA02V5 in Australia. While on a mobile to mobile call, the other party complained about buzzing. 1. Could someone please confirm that this is the hardware caused buzzing problem and not related to the distro or alsa state settings. 2. Are there any users in Australia with same batch (original group purchase via Perth/Brisbane) which also have the issue and have managed to get it corrected or have access to someone that can do the fix in Aus ? cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The real gsmhandset.state [was: Re: Buzz fix difficulty [was Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix]]
Did you have the buzz fix applied? 2009/4/29 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de: El día Tuesday, April 28, 2009 a las 04:13:22PM +0200, Joerg Reisenweber escribió: The one and only *real* gsmhandset.state (for all FR!): http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state :-) I've tried this yesterday and for me it gives a strong, no tolerable, local echo, even acoustic feedback between micro y speaker; sorry for not giving positiv feedback :-( interesting is the change in cotrol.63, will try with this to adjust some other values to reduce the acoustic feedback; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The real gsmhandset.state [was: Re: Buzz fix difficulty [was Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix]]
El día Wednesday, April 29, 2009 a las 08:44:33AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez escribió: Did you have the buzz fix applied? No. I have an original, hardware-unmodified GTA02v6 with Om2008.9 matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The real gsmhandset.state [was: Re: Buzz fix difficulty [was Re: US Buzz/GPS Fix]]
The buzz fix also lowers the sensibility of the microphone avoiding the echo issue if the speaker volume is raised, I guess that is the problem and that why I only recomend this alsa state to A7 or Buzzfixed A6-A5 2009/4/29 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de: El día Wednesday, April 29, 2009 a las 08:44:33AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez escribió: Did you have the buzz fix applied? No. I have an original, hardware-unmodified GTA02v6 with Om2008.9 matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz on GTA02v5 with latest SHR-Testing, do I need buzz fix ?
Denis Johnson wrote: Currently running SHR Testing from around 22 April, on my GTA02V5 in Australia. While on a mobile to mobile call, the other party complained about buzzing. 1. Could someone please confirm that this is the hardware caused buzzing problem and not related to the distro or alsa state settings. 2. Are there any users in Australia with same batch (original group purchase via Perth/Brisbane) which also have the issue and have managed to get it corrected or have access to someone that can do the fix in Aus ? I have about 8 sets of buzz fix parts from OpenMoko, and have previously (on the oz-moko list) said I'd send those parts to anyone who can fix devices in Australia. I haven't heard from anyone yet. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
