Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
2008/8/25 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, the g_ether module solves my usb problem. But the problem with the touchscreen is so annoying that i can't really use it with the new kernel. These few pixels that the cursor jumped below the position befor getting to the right position drives me crazy. And i can't type on the matchbox keyboard as good as before. I wanted to calibrate the touchscreen to see if this helps, but i can't find any useable calibration programm. I installes libts-bin which provides ts_calibrate, but when i try to start it i got an error message saying that it can't find ts_open. And i don't know by which package this programm is provided. :/ To calibrate the touchscreeen you must login into your freerunner and execute following lines: export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 then you can start ts_calibrate. After the calibration restart your xserver Greetings, Johannes Ciao, Rainer Johannes Florineth wrote: Johannes 2008/8/25 Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Am Montag, den 25.08.2008, 16:27 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder: Oh thanks, i just overlooked the modules file in the directory. :) After installing these modules package and comparing with the original /lib/modules/2.4.24 directory i see that in the root all the modules.* files are missing. I don't know if these files are needed or not so i looked in the openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-om-gta02.tar.gz file and copied these files from there to my new 2.4.24 directory. Sorry, as arne said, running depmod should help But it seems that the kernel changes some things because while booting i got an error that the usb device couldn't be set up. I have hear rumor that is has been move to a module. Look for a newly appearing module in the tarball (by comparing the file lists), and try to modprobe that. If so, add the name to /etc/modules You must load the module *g_ethe*r. Then you can start the network with ifup usb0. Also the touchscreen seems to be a bit different. When i touch a point the cursor jumps a small bit below this point and than goes to exactly this point. But the click is recognized at the point below. So sometimes i missed the keys on the matchbox keyboard. No idea. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeatahttp://people.debian.org/%7Enomeata http://people.debian.org/%7Enomeata ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Johannes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Florineth Johannes Student of electrotechnical engineering on the technical university of Graz tel.: +43650/5009048 -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Thanks, the g_ether module solves my usb problem. But the problem with the touchscreen is so annoying that i can't really use it with the new kernel. These few pixels that the cursor jumped below the position befor getting to the right position drives me crazy. And i can't type on the matchbox keyboard as good as before. I wanted to calibrate the touchscreen to see if this helps, but i can't find any useable calibration programm. I installes libts-bin which provides ts_calibrate, but when i try to start it i got an error message saying that it can't find ts_open. And i don't know by which package this programm is provided. :/ Ciao, Rainer Johannes Florineth wrote: Johannes 2008/8/25 Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Am Montag, den 25.08.2008, 16:27 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder: Oh thanks, i just overlooked the modules file in the directory. :) After installing these modules package and comparing with the original /lib/modules/2.4.24 directory i see that in the root all the modules.* files are missing. I don't know if these files are needed or not so i looked in the openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-om-gta02.tar.gz file and copied these files from there to my new 2.4.24 directory. Sorry, as arne said, running depmod should help But it seems that the kernel changes some things because while booting i got an error that the usb device couldn't be set up. I have hear rumor that is has been move to a module. Look for a newly appearing module in the tarball (by comparing the file lists), and try to modprobe that. If so, add the name to /etc/modules You must load the module *g_ethe*r. Then you can start the network with ifup usb0. Also the touchscreen seems to be a bit different. When i touch a point the cursor jumps a small bit below this point and than goes to exactly this point. But the click is recognized at the point below. So sometimes i missed the keys on the matchbox keyboard. No idea. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata http://people.debian.org/%7Enomeata ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Johannes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
else:
self.timeouts = { \
IDLE: 1,
IDLE_DIM: 2,
IDLE_PRELOCK: 3,
LOCK: 4,
SUSPEND: 20, \
}
But i don't really know if these numbers are minutes or something else.
line 119 says they are seconds:
self.timeout = gobject.timeout_add_seconds( self.timeouts[IDLE],
self.onIDLE )
But after installing the new compiled package the result is not exactly
what i hoped for. Within xfce and no thone running the behaviour is the
same as before. Ahen i start zhone the backlight dims after ~25s and
gets complete dark and locks after ~15s more.
Line 93 reads
# override default timeouts with configuration (if set)
for key in self.timeouts:
self.timeouts[key] = config.getInt( MODULE_NAME, key.lower(),
self.timeouts[key] )
so maybe your frameworkd.conf overrides these? I'm sorry for not
reading the whole source code when I suggested you to change it.
Better than sourcode editing. :)
This didn't work at all. When i try to compile it with apt-get --build
source zhone i get an error message that some archives couldn't be
downloaded. I only got zhone_0-git20080809.orig.tar.gz and it also wants
the dsc and diff file.
Can you try again? I just did aptitude update with
deb-src http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian unstable main
deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ sid main
deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ experimental main
in sources.list and can get the sources just fine:
$ apt-get source zhone
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Need to get 918kB of source archives.
Get:1 http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org unstable/main zhone 0-git20080809-4
(dsc) [1215B]
Get:2 http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org unstable/main zhone 0-git20080809-4
(tar) [914kB]
Get:3 http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org unstable/main zhone 0-git20080809-4
(diff) [2779B]
Fetched 918kB in 1s (658kB/s)
dpkg-source: extracting zhone in zhone-0-git20080809
dpkg-source: info: unpacking zhone_0-git20080809.orig.tar.gz
dpkg-source: info: applying zhone_0-git20080809-4.diff.gz
I think i was missing the debian source repositories. I only have the
fso source repo in my sources.list.
I will try it again with these two additional repos.
Is there a way to change this setting for xfce?
At the moment if you don't run zhone then brigthness won't change
depending on idle status. You can always send dbus suitable messages
yourself to control the brightness from xfce. I can lookup the
required command to do this if you can't figure it out (but I'm bit
busy right now).
No problem. To send these commands manually isn't the way i want to
adjust the brightness. ;)
Ciao,
Rainer
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Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
I'm playing with debian for the last week and there are some new things i'm curious about. First thing is how i update the kernel and modules? I see that while installing debian it uses this kernel from openmoko: http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/uImage-2.6.24+gitr0+7a1370a816b9348dd8f36a667905dd3533cefc9b-r4-om-gta01.bin Now i see that the kernel and modules are updated quite often in the openmoko repo, but in the sources.list is no update source for a new kernel. The actual openmoko kernel seems to be http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+git36+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2_om-gta02.ipk I know that this is the opkg version and not the dpkg for debian, but i think somewhere had to be the newest kernel version available for use in debian, or not? Another thing is the problem, that xfce always run programs maximized which can't be changed. I would really like to use normal windows which i can change by myself to maximized state or not. This behaviour is shown in the wiki page for manual installation with debian http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian but i used the installation procedure from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner I think this is just a setting in a configuration file, but i can't find it. :( And then i wanted to ask if there is a working way to rotate the xfce screen like with 2007.2? For example scummvm isn't useable at all with a resolution of 480x640. Also for video playback it would be really nice, even if video playback at the moment is more of a dream for the future when the performance is getting better. ;) And the last thing is where i can find the actual state of the suspend/resume problem concerning partition table corruption of the sd-card? I completely disabled standby because i don't want to have problems with my partition table on my sd-card. I found this ticket http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 but don't know if this is the right place to look if it is fixed. Without suspend/resume the phone isn't useable at all as daily phone because i always have to shut down and restart the neo to spare the battery. :( Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fox Mulder wrote: Another thing is the problem, that xfce always run programs maximized which can't be changed. I would really like to use normal windows which i can change by myself to maximized state or not. This behaviour is shown in the wiki page for manual installation with debian http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian but i used the installation procedure from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner I think this is just a setting in a configuration file, but i can't find it. :( I think is a caracteristic of MatchBox that keep all the window maximzed. I am using it, and it seem to be good enought if you remember that in the end is only a phone :) It you want to change it you have to install xfm, the window manager of XFCE. (I think than you have to reconfigure matchbox-keyboard) And then i wanted to ask if there is a working way to rotate the xfce screen like with 2007.2? This will me usefull mee to... something about gesture? For example scummvm isn't useable at all with a resolution of 480x640. Also for video playback it would be really nice, even if video playback at the moment is more of a dream for the future when the performance is getting better. ;) Yes, I agree And the last thing is where i can find the actual state of the suspend/resume problem concerning partition table corruption of the sd-card? I completely disabled standby because i don't want to have problems with my partition table on my sd-card. I found this ticket http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 but don't know if this is the right place to look if it is fixed. Without suspend/resume the phone isn't useable at all as daily phone because i always have to shut down and restart the neo to spare the battery. :( And GPS, is GPS fix in that kernel too ? :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsqp0SIAU/I6SkT0RAmc1AKCKlLvUCjjaTF1Ode6HINN5iDlbcQCgnYMi J5Ee1gNk7IDbxqITsvrb15w= =EOlD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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And then i wanted to ask if there is a working way to rotate the xfce screen like with 2007.2? the fbdev driver used does not support randr. the xglamo does, but it does not play well w/ tslib out of the box, someone posted a workaround recently making xglamo and tslib play together. i don#T know how reliable it is and inhowfar the calibration issue after rotation is solved. regarding suspend/resume: i use a 1gb sandisc sd card and have no problems so far -- i think the issues begin w/ card sizes =4g. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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And GPS, is GPS fix in that kernel too ? :) since it is an om-kernel and markedly younger than the gps fix, i strongly assume so. i had no time to check that little zhone gps thingy yet, so i don't know for sure -- but if the rain stops for a while this afternoon, i will check on my way home. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
arne anka wrote: And then i wanted to ask if there is a working way to rotate the xfce screen like with 2007.2? the fbdev driver used does not support randr. the xglamo does, but it does not play well w/ tslib out of the box, someone posted a workaround recently making xglamo and tslib play together. i don#T know how reliable it is and inhowfar the calibration issue after rotation is solved. I hope this problem will be solved in the near future so the desktop is for better use on the neo. regarding suspend/resume: i use a 1gb sandisc sd card and have no problems so far -- i think the issues begin w/ card sizes =4g. I read somewhere that the problems were related to sdhc cards somehow. I use a sandisk 8gb ultra micro sd which means, that this problem is related to me. :/ I also read that the problems differ if the kernel is booted from the internal nand or from the sd-card (rootfs is always on sd). But i can't find any useable info on this behaviour. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fox Mulder wrote: Thats a good question. But i tried the gps with tangogps and it works quide good. So i think the fix is already implemented. But maybe it only works good because i used the agps utility from the mokoservicescripts which requests the gps data for my position and feeds the agps chip with it to get a faster fix. ;) Realy? You was able to use tangogps? Can you tell to me what port you used to reconfigure gpsd? I used /dev/ttySAC1 but I had no success!, so I was thinking I hadn't the fix :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsq8QSIAU/I6SkT0RAmJKAJ0fmGx7OWhevOW8vf5SvHInwkzZ4QCeIv9V DQJn4/vAH9XHjR5RGI1UksI= =iJl+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, Am Montag, den 25.08.2008, 14:42 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder: I'm playing with debian for the last week and there are some new things i'm curious about. First thing is how i update the kernel and modules? I see that while installing debian it uses this kernel from openmoko: http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/uImage-2.6.24+gitr0+7a1370a816b9348dd8f36a667905dd3533cefc9b-r4-om-gta01.bin Now i see that the kernel and modules are updated quite often in the openmoko repo, but in the sources.list is no update source for a new kernel. The actual openmoko kernel seems to be http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+git36+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2_om-gta02.ipk I know that this is the opkg version and not the dpkg for debian, but i think somewhere had to be the newest kernel version available for use in debian, or not? ATM, there are no automatic kernel updates in Debian. Phil Kern has tried to build a proper debian kernel package from the upstream sources, but it takes a very long time in a qemu builder, so fixing all the issues with the build was a PITA. So at the moment, you have to manually download the image from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/ and put it in /boot. But when i get the newest kernel from there like http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin isn't that not just only the kernel? As far as i know i also have to update all the modules for this new kernel within /lib/modules/2.6.24. But i think these modules are only in the corresponding rootfs image http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk--20080824-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz So should i download this image and extract the modules and replace it on my local rootfs? I don't want to update my kernel if i'm not sure if this way is right. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
issues with the build was a PITA. So at the moment, you have to manually download the image from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/ and put it in /boot. am i mistaken or isn't that image w/o modules? thus, simply copying the uImage.bin will pretty soon send us into a situation of modules not loadable, wouldn't it? how far apart are the formats of ipk and deb? dpkg is at least able to things like -I and --contents with them, so couldn't they be installed by dpkg/apt or converted to deb (extension to alien if someone knows how)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I also use /dev/ttySAC1. I just activated the gps with the new openmoko-panel, than put the agps data from ublox into the chip and started tangogps (version from debian repo). I got a quite fast fix from the gps and tangogps shows me the location and i can use it. I didn't try a longer tangogps session, but for a short test it works good. :) Ciao, Rainer Michele Renda wrote: Fox Mulder wrote: Thats a good question. But i tried the gps with tangogps and it works quide good. So i think the fix is already implemented. But maybe it only works good because i used the agps utility from the mokoservicescripts which requests the gps data for my position and feeds the agps chip with it to get a faster fix. ;) Realy? You was able to use tangogps? Can you tell to me what port you used to reconfigure gpsd? I used /dev/ttySAC1 but I had no success!, so I was thinking I hadn't the fix :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Hi, Am Montag, den 25.08.2008, 15:17 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder: ATM, there are no automatic kernel updates in Debian. Phil Kern has tried to build a proper debian kernel package from the upstream sources, but it takes a very long time in a qemu builder, so fixing all the issues with the build was a PITA. So at the moment, you have to manually download the image from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/ and put it in /boot. But when i get the newest kernel from there like http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin isn't that not just only the kernel? As far as i know i also have to update all the modules for this new kernel within /lib/modules/2.6.24. But i think these modules are only in the corresponding rootfs image http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk--20080824-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz So should i download this image and extract the modules and replace it on my local rootfs? I don't want to update my kernel if i'm not sure if this way is right. :) Have a look what http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh does in the kernel stage. You download the modules from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/modules-2.6.24+git36+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2-om-gta02.tgz along and just untar them in /. I guess this should go into the wiki. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This was the only thing I didn't tried. I will do and I will let all know. Thank you a lot for your help!!! Ciao Michele Renda Fox Mulder wrote: I also use /dev/ttySAC1. I just activated the gps with the new openmoko-panel, than put the agps data from ublox into the chip and started tangogps (version from debian repo). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIsrOrSIAU/I6SkT0RAkkBAJkBB+GQpx+mwrVmToOMfIpj53nEGACeI9Vx 0M8XP/Z0AQ0NsXNMZ5qMGZU= =jl1u -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Montag 25 August 2008 14:46:41 schrieb Matt: First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would ne nice to set the maximum brightness and not always maximum (63). /etc/frameworkd.conf [odeviced.idlenotifier] # add inut nodes to ignore for idle activity ignoreinput = 2,3,4 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 idle_dim = 30 idle_prelock = 10 lock = 1 suspend = 0 That help? Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Would there be any support for extending this to two profiles, one for running on battery and one for when powered externally? Sounds sensible. Please open a ticket for me (trac.freesmartphone.org). Done. With pleasure. http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/113 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, Am Montag, den 25.08.2008, 15:17 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder: ATM, there are no automatic kernel updates in Debian. Phil Kern has tried to build a proper debian kernel package from the upstream sources, but it takes a very long time in a qemu builder, so fixing all the issues with the build was a PITA. So at the moment, you have to manually download the image from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/ and put it in /boot. But when i get the newest kernel from there like http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin isn't that not just only the kernel? As far as i know i also have to update all the modules for this new kernel within /lib/modules/2.6.24. But i think these modules are only in the corresponding rootfs image http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk--20080824-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz So should i download this image and extract the modules and replace it on my local rootfs? I don't want to update my kernel if i'm not sure if this way is right. :) Have a look what http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh does in the kernel stage. You download the modules from http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/modules-2.6.24+git36+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2-om-gta02.tgz along and just untar them in /. I guess this should go into the wiki. Greetings, Joachim Oh thanks, i just overlooked the modules file in the directory. :) After installing these modules package and comparing with the original /lib/modules/2.4.24 directory i see that in the root all the modules.* files are missing. I don't know if these files are needed or not so i looked in the openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-om-gta02.tar.gz file and copied these files from there to my new 2.4.24 directory. Before booting i got Linux IjonTichy 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Jul 29 01:19:38 UTC 2008 armv4tl GNU/Linux and now after booting i got Linux IjonTichy 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Mon Aug 25 01:23:27 CEST 2008 armv4tl GNU/Linux But it seems that the kernel changes some things because while booting i got an error that the usb device couldn't be set up. Also the touchscreen seems to be a bit different. When i touch a point the cursor jumps a small bit below this point and than goes to exactly this point. But the click is recognized at the point below. So sometimes i missed the keys on the matchbox keyboard. Wlan and gps works like before without problems. Someone know how to fix the usb and touchscreen problem? Does a touchscreen recalibration has any effect for this kind of problem? The boot log messages show that the usb core is loaded: ... usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs usbcore: registered new interface driver hub usbcore: registered new device driver usb ... But when setting usb0 up for networking it says no such device for usb0. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Hi, Am Montag, den 25.08.2008, 16:27 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder: Oh thanks, i just overlooked the modules file in the directory. :) After installing these modules package and comparing with the original /lib/modules/2.4.24 directory i see that in the root all the modules.* files are missing. I don't know if these files are needed or not so i looked in the openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-om-gta02.tar.gz file and copied these files from there to my new 2.4.24 directory. Sorry, as arne said, running depmod should help But it seems that the kernel changes some things because while booting i got an error that the usb device couldn't be set up. I have hear rumor that is has been move to a module. Look for a newly appearing module in the tarball (by comparing the file lists), and try to modprobe that. If so, add the name to /etc/modules Also the touchscreen seems to be a bit different. When i touch a point the cursor jumps a small bit below this point and than goes to exactly this point. But the click is recognized at the point below. So sometimes i missed the keys on the matchbox keyboard. No idea. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Johannes 2008/8/25 Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Am Montag, den 25.08.2008, 16:27 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder: Oh thanks, i just overlooked the modules file in the directory. :) After installing these modules package and comparing with the original /lib/modules/2.4.24 directory i see that in the root all the modules.* files are missing. I don't know if these files are needed or not so i looked in the openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-om-gta02.tar.gz file and copied these files from there to my new 2.4.24 directory. Sorry, as arne said, running depmod should help But it seems that the kernel changes some things because while booting i got an error that the usb device couldn't be set up. I have hear rumor that is has been move to a module. Look for a newly appearing module in the tarball (by comparing the file lists), and try to modprobe that. If so, add the name to /etc/modules You must load the module *g_ethe*r. Then you can start the network with ifup usb0. Also the touchscreen seems to be a bit different. When i touch a point the cursor jumps a small bit below this point and than goes to exactly this point. But the click is recognized at the point below. So sometimes i missed the keys on the matchbox keyboard. No idea. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeatahttp://people.debian.org/%7Enomeata ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Johannes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the
brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i
didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would
At the moment you need to edit the source:
1) apt-get source fso-frameworkd
2) edit fso-frameworkd*/framework/subsystems/odeviced/idlenotifier.py around
line 58
3) fakeroot apt-get --build source fso-frameworkd
4) dpkg -i fso-frameworkd*deb
I downloaded, edited and compiled it on my neo. I changed the values to
else:
self.timeouts = { \
IDLE: 1,
IDLE_DIM: 2,
IDLE_PRELOCK: 3,
LOCK: 4,
SUSPEND: 20, \
}
But i don't really know if these numbers are minutes or something else.
But after installing the new compiled package the result is not exactly
what i hoped for. Within xfce and no thone running the behaviour is the
same as before. Ahen i start zhone the backlight dims after ~25s and
gets complete dark and locks after ~15s more.
I can't figure out what the numbers i changed really do and IF they
really did something or not. :/
But i was hoping to change the behaviour of xfce even when zhone is not
running, what is the condition most of the time at the moment. ;)
ne nice to set the maximum brightness and not always maximum (63).
1) apt-get source zhone
2) edit zhone*/src/zhone around line 1924
3) fakeroot apt-get --build source zhone
4) dpkg -i zhone*deb
This didn't work at all. When i try to compile it with apt-get --build
source zhone i get an error message that some archives couldn't be
downloaded. I only got zhone_0-git20080809.orig.tar.gz and it also wants
the dsc and diff file.
But i think this affects also only the brightness when zhone is running.
Is there a way to change this setting for xfce?
Then i wanted to use openoffice, what would make me really happy because
i only use OO on my desktop as well. But after i inetalled it i can't
start it. When i try to start any OO app i got the following error message
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 365: 2088 Illegal instruction
$sd_prog/$sd_binary $@
where the second number increases with every try. soffice seems to be
a start script, but i can't find the problem why it doesn't work. :(
You probably should try openoffice under qemu. If you can reproduce it
there you should file a bug to bugs.debian.org.
Then i wanted to ask if there exists a recent navit version for debian.
You can create a package easily:
1) wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/navit/navit-0.0.4.tar.gz
2) tar zxf navit-0.0.4.tar.gz
3) cd navit-0.0.4
4) dh_make -s -f ../navit-0.0.4.tar.gz
5) edit debian/rules and change line that calls ./configure to read only
./configure $(CROSS) --prefix=/usr
6) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
7) sudo dpkg -i ../navit*deb
This works after reinstalling quite some dev packages. I only couldn't
apply the fast-map-dragging patch with the svn version 1314. It seems
some files have changed and the patch didn't apply successfull. But the
programm runs and that is quite some success. :)
I hope that the fast map dragging patch will be applied to the svn
repository soon, so everybody doesn't have to do the patching on their
own when compiling for themselfs. ;)
This quick'n'dirty packaking took only a few minutes but the package seems to
work:
http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/debian-navit1.png
To create armel package you probably want to
qemubuilder --build navit_0.0.4-1.dsc
since building navit on your freerunner might take a while.
Thats's right. The building of navit on my neo takes quite some time.
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Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
On Thursday 21 August 2008 02:06:59 pm Fox Mulder wrote: First of all i must say that i'm quite impressed with debian on the freerunner. It runs quite smooth most of the time and the software choices are realy nice. :) There is a thing what i found out about the matchbox keyboard. The standard layout is quite bad so i tried my customized from 2007.2 which doesn't work at all (i already read about this problem). After a long try and error session i found out why it doesn't work. The matchbox keyboard which comes with debian seems not to get along with the action=modifier:layout tag. After i found out i removed all alternative layouts and it worked with my nice german layout with f-keys and everithing which is on the keyboard. :) If someone is interested in the german layout with f-keys i attached. Now to the questions i couldn't solve myself until now and i hope somebody has a few hints for me. First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would ne nice to set the maximum brightness and not always maximum (63). /etc/frameworkd.conf [odeviced.idlenotifier] # add inut nodes to ignore for idle activity ignoreinput = 2,3,4 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 idle_dim = 30 idle_prelock = 10 lock = 1 suspend = 0 That help? Eli --. If it ain't broke now, Eli Carter \ it will be soon. -- crypto-gram [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Hi, Dabian has old matchbox-keyboard but there are newer and better working version too. e.g. you can put shifted display=// I do not know is this The Latest version and I do not know how to use svn, but this way you can grab 40Mb matchbox code and there are matchbox-keyboard-folder too. This is only folder you need (if you are interested in only matchbox-keyboard). svn checkout http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/matchbox/trunk And there are patch that allows you change layout on the fly. http://bugzilla.openedhand.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574 It is splitted in to five files. And the last one need manual tweaking. Then you can map a button to layout changer default display=123 action=layout:numpad/ One of patch files uses different p-value. patch -p1 fix-util-list-logic.patch patch -p0 add-multi-layout-support.patch patch -p1 add-get-all-layouts.patch patch -p1 move-base_alloc_foo-to-layout.patch patch -p1 make-base-alloc-foo-layout-specific.patch I merged them all: http://lauta.dyndns.org/freerunner/multi_layout.diff Ready compiled binary for freerunner/debian http://lauta.dyndns.org/freerunner/matchbox-keyboard And one example layout. At this moment basic finnish+crap numpad. http://lauta.dyndns.org/freerunner/keyboard.xml And more things that I do not know. What is matchbox-keyboard that Om 2008.8 uses. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Change_keyboard_layout layout switcher looks like this: default display=[-] action=modifier:layout/ -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Hi, Am Freitag, den 22.08.2008, 13:32 +0300 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen: Hi, Dabian has old matchbox-keyboard ... I ususally recommend people to talk to the debian maintainer of the package, to let him know that his package is used and his work appreciated. A wishlist bug against matchbox-keyboard mentioning a new version is usually well received, as is filing bugs for useful patches. This is a general invitation to all users of Debian on their FreeRunner to get involved by working directly with the Debian project. This is, in the long run, more productive than patches floating around and work-arounds on wiki pages (although these are useful in between, until things are sorted out properly with the upstream authors and packaga maintainers). If you file or find bugs that are relevant for us, feel free to add them to the list on http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianFSO at the bottom. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
First of all i must say that i'm quite impressed with debian on the
freerunner. It runs quite smooth most of the time and the software
choices are realy nice. :)
There is a thing what i found out about the matchbox keyboard. The
standard layout is quite bad so i tried my customized from 2007.2 which
doesn't work at all (i already read about this problem). After a long
try and error session i found out why it doesn't work. The matchbox
keyboard which comes with debian seems not to get along with the
action=modifier:layout tag. After i found out i removed all
alternative layouts and it worked with my nice german layout with f-keys
and everithing which is on the keyboard. :)
If someone is interested in the german layout with f-keys i attached.
Now to the questions i couldn't solve myself until now and i hope
somebody has a few hints for me.
First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the
brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i
didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would
ne nice to set the maximum brightness and not always maximum (63).
Then i wanted to use openoffice, what would make me really happy because
i only use OO on my desktop as well. But after i inetalled it i can't
start it. When i try to start any OO app i got the following error message
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 365: 2088 Illegal instruction
$sd_prog/$sd_binary $@
where the second number increases with every try. soffice seems to be
a start script, but i can't find the problem why it doesn't work. :(
Then i wanted to ask if there exists a recent navit version for debian.
For 2007.2 i got one as ipkg which works really good with navigation and
speech output, but for debian i can't find any precompiled package.
I have the apprehension that i must compile it myself, but if this is
going well is another story. ;)
There are quite some more things i didn't find out yet, but these are
the most important at the moment.
Ciao,
Rainer
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
keyboard
options
/options
layout id=german keyboard
row
key fill=true
default display=Esc action=escape /
/key
space width=200 /
key
default display=F1 action=f1 /
/key
key
default display=F2 action=f2 /
/key
key
default display=F3 action=f3 /
/key
key
default display=F4 action=f4 /
/key
space width=200 /
key
default display=F5 action=f5 /
/key
key
default display=F6 action=f6 /
/key
key
default display=F7 action=f7 /
/key
key
default display=F8 action=f8 /
/key
space width=200 /
key
default display=F9 action=f9 /
/key
key
default display=F10 action=f10 /
/key
key
default display=F11 action=f11 /
/key
key
default display=F12 action=f12 /
/key
space width=500 extended=true/
space width=4000 extended=true /
space width=4000 extended=true /
space width=500 extended=true/
/row
row
space width=500 extended=true/
key width=2500
default display=^ /
shifted display=° /
/key
key
default display=1 /
shifted display=! /
/key
key
default display=2 /
shifted display='' /
mod1display=² /
/key
key
default display=3 /
shifted display=§ /
mod1display=³ /
/key
key
default display=4 /
shifted display=$ /
/key
key
default display=5 /
shifted display=% /
/key
key
default display=6 /
shifted display=amp; /
/key
key
default display=7 /
shifted display=/ /
mod1display={ /
/key
key
default display=8 /
shifted display=( /
mod1display=[ /
/key
key
default display=9 /
shifted display=) /
mod1display=] /
/key
key
default display=0 /
shifted display== /
mod1display=} /
/key
key
default display=Ã /
shifted display=? /
mod1display=\ /
/key
key
default display=´ /
shifted display=` /
/key
key fill=true
default display=â« action=backspace/
/key
space width=500 extended=true/
key width=4000 extended=true
default display=Home action=home/
/key
key width=4000 extended=true
default display=PgUp action=pageup/
/key
space width=500 extended=true/
/row
row
space width=500 extended=true/
key width=3500
default display=â¹ action=tab/
/key
key obey-caps='true'
default display=q /
shifted display=Q /
mod1display=@ /
/key
key obey-caps='true'
default display=w /
shifted display=W /
/key
key obey-caps='true'
mod1 display=⬠/
defaultdisplay=e
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Nice looking keyboard. Excluding Home and End there are AllWhatCanNeed. (maybe on arrows with shift?) There are some button which do not work on my debian. Do they work on yours? shift+7 = ?should be / shift+0 = +should be = shift+. = : should be ; öä and umlaut-u do not affected by CAPSLOCK. y and z are swapped (joke) -Aapo Rantalainen 2008/8/21 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First of all i must say that i'm quite impressed with debian on the freerunner. It runs quite smooth most of the time and the software choices are realy nice. :) There is a thing what i found out about the matchbox keyboard. The standard layout is quite bad so i tried my customized from 2007.2 which doesn't work at all (i already read about this problem). After a long try and error session i found out why it doesn't work. The matchbox keyboard which comes with debian seems not to get along with the action=modifier:layout tag. After i found out i removed all alternative layouts and it worked with my nice german layout with f-keys and everithing which is on the keyboard. :) If someone is interested in the german layout with f-keys i attached. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would At the moment you need to edit the source: 1) apt-get source fso-frameworkd 2) edit fso-frameworkd*/framework/subsystems/odeviced/idlenotifier.py around line 58 3) fakeroot apt-get --build source fso-frameworkd 4) dpkg -i fso-frameworkd*deb ne nice to set the maximum brightness and not always maximum (63). 1) apt-get source zhone 2) edit zhone*/src/zhone around line 1924 3) fakeroot apt-get --build source zhone 4) dpkg -i zhone*deb Then i wanted to use openoffice, what would make me really happy because i only use OO on my desktop as well. But after i inetalled it i can't start it. When i try to start any OO app i got the following error message /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 365: 2088 Illegal instruction $sd_prog/$sd_binary $@ where the second number increases with every try. soffice seems to be a start script, but i can't find the problem why it doesn't work. :( You probably should try openoffice under qemu. If you can reproduce it there you should file a bug to bugs.debian.org. Then i wanted to ask if there exists a recent navit version for debian. You can create a package easily: 1) wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/navit/navit-0.0.4.tar.gz 2) tar zxf navit-0.0.4.tar.gz 3) cd navit-0.0.4 4) dh_make -s -f ../navit-0.0.4.tar.gz 5) edit debian/rules and change line that calls ./configure to read only ./configure $(CROSS) --prefix=/usr 6) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot 7) sudo dpkg -i ../navit*deb This quick'n'dirty packaking took only a few minutes but the package seems to work: http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/debian-navit1.png To create armel package you probably want to qemubuilder --build navit_0.0.4-1.dsc since building navit on your freerunner might take a while. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
In the console the umlaute doesn't work at all. maybe i have to change my language or font settings. When i try it in mousepad the umlaute works and are affected by capslock. shift+. = : is right. ; comes by shift+, (take look at the keyboard) :) The problem with shift+7=? and shift+0=+ does here also appear. I think these keys must be quoted or something, but i don't know for sure. In the original files the / and ? are in no special way written, so i don't know what this is. I will try a few variations if i can get them to work properly. :) Ciao, Rainer Aapo Rantalainen wrote: Nice looking keyboard. Excluding Home and End there are AllWhatCanNeed. (maybe on arrows with shift?) There are some button which do not work on my debian. Do they work on yours? shift+7 = ?should be / shift+0 = +should be = shift+. = : should be ; öä and umlaut-u do not affected by CAPSLOCK. y and z are swapped (joke) -Aapo Rantalainen 2008/8/21 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First of all i must say that i'm quite impressed with debian on the freerunner. It runs quite smooth most of the time and the software choices are realy nice. :) There is a thing what i found out about the matchbox keyboard. The standard layout is quite bad so i tried my customized from 2007.2 which doesn't work at all (i already read about this problem). After a long try and error session i found out why it doesn't work. The matchbox keyboard which comes with debian seems not to get along with the action=modifier:layout tag. After i found out i removed all alternative layouts and it worked with my nice german layout with f-keys and everithing which is on the keyboard. :) If someone is interested in the german layout with f-keys i attached. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Ok i changed a few things.
First the Pageup is now selected with AltGR and not shift because with
shift when using pageup shift is still on and text is selected. ;)
Second thing is that i forgot the obey-caps='true' tag for öäü which
makes them only work with shift but not capslock. Also i removed these
tags on every other key than a-z. Other keys make no sense to activate
with capslock.
Third thing is that i inserted home and end on cursor up and down with
help of AltGr. Thanks for the hint. :)
Maybe i change the position of PgUp/PgDn and Home/End. But for now it is ok.
Fourth change is the problem with / and =. I found out that i can use
these characters with normal and mod1 (AltGr) but not with shifted
tag. I don't know why, but therefor i make a quickfix which isn't nice
but these characters are usable. I inserted them to the keys 4 and 5
with help of AltGr. Looks a bit ugly but at the moment i don't know how
to get them to work with shift. :/
Ciao,
Rainer
Aapo Rantalainen wrote:
Nice looking keyboard. Excluding Home and End there are
AllWhatCanNeed. (maybe on arrows with shift?) There are some button
which do not work on my debian. Do they work on yours?
shift+7 = ?should be /
shift+0 = +should be =
shift+. = : should be ;
öä and umlaut-u do not affected by CAPSLOCK.
y and z are swapped (joke)
-Aapo Rantalainen
2008/8/21 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
First of all i must say that i'm quite impressed with debian on the
freerunner. It runs quite smooth most of the time and the software
choices are realy nice. :)
There is a thing what i found out about the matchbox keyboard. The
standard layout is quite bad so i tried my customized from 2007.2 which
doesn't work at all (i already read about this problem). After a long
try and error session i found out why it doesn't work. The matchbox
keyboard which comes with debian seems not to get along with the
action=modifier:layout tag. After i found out i removed all
alternative layouts and it worked with my nice german layout with f-keys
and everithing which is on the keyboard. :)
If someone is interested in the german layout with f-keys i attached.
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?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
keyboard
options
/options
layout id=german keyboard
row
key fill=true
default display=Esc action=escape /
/key
space width=200 /
key
default display=F1 action=f1 /
/key
key
default display=F2 action=f2 /
/key
key
default display=F3 action=f3 /
/key
key
default display=F4 action=f4 /
/key
space width=200 /
key
default display=F5 action=f5 /
/key
key
default display=F6 action=f6 /
/key
key
default display=F7 action=f7 /
/key
key
default display=F8 action=f8 /
/key
space width=200 /
key
default display=F9 action=f9 /
/key
key
default display=F10 action=f10 /
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Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 21.08.2008, 21:06 +0200 schrieb Fox Mulder: First of all i must say that i'm quite impressed with debian on the freerunner. It runs quite smooth most of the time and the software choices are realy nice. :) Thanks. First thing is that i can't find the setting, when the display dims the brightness. The default setting dims it after some minutes (~3-5 min, i didn't measure it) what is way to late for battery usage. Also it would ne nice to set the maximum brightness and not always maximum (63). This should probaby be configurable in frameworkd. You should search http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ for open bugs on that. If there are none, you can open them, and optionally add a nice patch :-) Then i wanted to use openoffice, what would make me really happy because i only use OO on my desktop as well. But after i inetalled it i can't start it. When i try to start any OO app i got the following error message /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice: line 365: 2088 Illegal instruction $sd_prog/$sd_binary $@ where the second number increases with every try. soffice seems to be a start script, but i can't find the problem why it doesn't work. :( I guess not many people have tried openoffice on armel yet :-). As Timo correctly said, it might be a bug in the Debian build and should be reported there. Then i wanted to ask if there exists a recent navit version for debian. For 2007.2 i got one as ipkg which works really good with navigation and speech output, but for debian i can't find any precompiled package. I have the apprehension that i must compile it myself, but if this is going well is another story. ;) Some people are working on it: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=451561 Maybe you can help here by finding out what’s stopping them (if it’s still the copyright stuff) and maybe helping upstream with sorting out their copyright information. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
2008/8/21 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the console the umlaute doesn't work at all. maybe i have to change my language or font settings. When i try it in mousepad the umlaute works and are affected by capslock. shift+. = : is right. ; comes by shift+, (take look at the keyboard) :) This is my typo, I mean: shift+, = : should be ; If you put shifted display=1/, you will get ! This is stupid, but it explain why shifted display=// produces ? Maybe somebody should fix the code. -AR ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- a few questions/solutions
Your are right. The problem with ; is the same like the / and = problem.
I added the ; also to the AltGr modifier on the same key and this works.
I can't remember these problems with the matchbox keyboard which comes
with 2007.2. It seems that with debian came an older version with more
bugs and no layout switch possibilities. :/
Ciao,
Rainer
Aapo Rantalainen wrote:
2008/8/21 Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In the console the umlaute doesn't work at all. maybe i have to change
my language or font settings. When i try it in mousepad the umlaute
works and are affected by capslock.
shift+. = : is right.
; comes by shift+, (take look at the keyboard) :)
This is my typo, I mean:
shift+, = : should be ;
If you put shifted display=1/, you will get !
This is stupid, but it explain why shifted display=// produces ?
Maybe somebody should fix the code.
-AR
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