Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
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 Everything is available at
 http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia.html
Do you provide any screen shots there?

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-14 Thread Christian Reitwießner
Patryk Benderz schrieb:
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 Everything is available at
 http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia.html
 Do you provide any screen shots there?

It actually looks just like the article area of the official Wikipedia,
but you are right, screenshots are always nice. I have put some on the
opkg.org site: http://www.opkg.org/package_128.html

Christian



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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-14 Thread Patryk Benderz
 It actually looks just like the article area of the official Wikipedia,
 but you are right, screenshots are always nice. I have put some on the
 opkg.org site: http://www.opkg.org/package_128.html
Thanks, actually i need this for CU entry and its tiresome to install
all applications just to make screen-shots...

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-12 Thread Fabian Schölzel
My 8GB-Card is working again, so i can finally try this out. Im eager
to see, where the near article feature will point me to! Im also
eager to see, what my team-mate says, when his favorite wikipedia
junkie is more ready than ever to take a timeout in a discussion to
look for facts. :)

Greets,
Fabian

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-12 Thread Christian Reitwießner
c_c schrieb:
 Hi,
 
 Christian Reitwießner wrote:
 unfortunately without any feedback, I have now released evopedia 0.2.1,
 which fixes a single bug: the near articles feature should work now,
 if it did not already. 

  Well, I saw your site and realised that the English dump is 7 GB. I have a
 8 GB card - but this would leave me with almost no space for anything else.
 I wonder if there was a way of reducing the image sizes further by splitting
 them into topics (maybe science / computers / physics etc).
  
  Otherwise I'll just have to buy another 8GB card - but the card swapping is
 a little cumbersome. What do you think?

Please note that unfortunately, the English dump is for Evopedia 1.0
only. It is not much more than a squashfs-compressed version of
http://static.wikipedia.org/downloads/2008-06/en/wikipedia-en-html.tar.7z
(which is 14 GB and 7-zip compressed), where the special pages are
removed. There is some redundancy in the html files (for example there
is always the same header) but I thought that squashfs takes care of it.

So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
really long. At the moment I'm more trying to reduce the dump time and
not the image size. I have not tried to do a dump of the English
Wikipedia at all because it would take weeks.

If you look at the dump sizes for the German Wikipedia, the sizes are
1.8 GB (2008, Squashfs 3), 1.9 (2008, Squashfs 4), 2.5 (2009, Squashfs
4). I really don't know what caused this.

I can try to do the dump for the simple English Wikipedia next.

Kind regards,
Christan

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-12 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote:
 So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
 significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
 those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
 really long
Why not use dump DB from http://download.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html ?
The last dump for  English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add an 
index to have the file usable.
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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-12 Thread Evgeniy Ginzburg
On 12.08.2009 12:47, Vincent MEURISSE wrote:
 On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote:
 So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
 significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
 those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
 really long
 Why not use dump DB fromhttp://download.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html  ?
 The last dump for  English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add an
 index to have the file usable.
http://static.wikipedia.org/downloads/2008-06/
looks more suitable
it also 14 G in size tar.7z compressed.
Image removal might help reduce it a lot.

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-12 Thread Christian Reitwießner
Vincent MEURISSE schrieb:
 On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote:
 So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
 significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
 those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
 really long
 Why not use dump DB from http://download.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html ?
 The last dump for  English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add 
 an 
 index to have the file usable.

Sure, I have thought about that. But then the pages need to be rendered
on the Freerunner. It would be great if we could have some small
standalone Mediawiki renderer. I have had a look at mwlib [1], but it
needs some additional libraries and it's not really clear which parts of
mwlib are needed. If someone could compile mwlib for the Freerunner I
would be really happy.

[1] http://code.pediapress.com/wiki/wiki/mwlib

Kind regards,
Christian

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-12 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/8/12 Vincent MEURISSE openmoko-commun...@meurisse.org:
 On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote:
 So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced
 significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because
 those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes
 really long
 Why not use dump DB from http://download.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html ?
 The last dump for  English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add an
 index to have the file usable.

there's also this, which takes an xml dump as produced by wikipedia
every two months or so, processes it in a few hours to produce an
index, and will run anywhere that has php, perl and a couple of other
generic utilities

http://users.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/buildWikipediaOffline.html

i had it on my laptop a while back, it was very usable. no images though

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-12 Thread Christian Reitwießner
Dear Robin,

yes, I know this website. The problem with mediawiki_sa is that it
needs PHP and as I see it, it is just the regular Mediawiki software
where some parts are removed. Furthermore, it is based on Mediawiki 1.7
and I don't know if it can render current Mediawiki Markup. So one
should get a better result by just using the current Mediawiki software
and exchanging the database backend.

But what I (and as I heard also Wikimedia) really want is a clean
implementation of a standalone Mediawiki markup renderer that behaves
just as the official renderer. That would be really great.

Kind Regards,
Christian

Robin Paulson schrieb:
 2009/8/12 Christian Reitwießner christ...@reitwiessner.de:
 Sure, I have thought about that. But then the pages need to be rendered
 on the Freerunner. It would be great if we could have some small
 standalone Mediawiki renderer. I have had a look at mwlib [1], but it
 
 have you tried the wikipedia offline client? the link i sent earlier
 uses exactly that - it's small, lightweight and will run on
 low-powered devices
 
 http://users.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/buildWikipediaOffline.html
 
 see the note from sept 17, 2007


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Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-11 Thread Christian Reitwießner
Dear community,

unfortunately without any feedback, I have now released evopedia 0.2.1,
which fixes a single bug: the near articles feature should work now,
if it did not already. Furthermore, the Dutch Wikipedia dump is now
ready to use.

Everything is available at
http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia.html

Kind regards,
Christian

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-11 Thread Yorick Moko
Aha, the Dutch version is available!
great, I'll try it out this weekend
thanks a lot!

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Christian Reitwießner 
christ...@reitwiessner.de wrote:

 Dear community,

 unfortunately without any feedback, I have now released evopedia 0.2.1,
 which fixes a single bug: the near articles feature should work now,
 if it did not already. Furthermore, the Dutch Wikipedia dump is now
 ready to use.

 Everything is available at
 http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia.html

 Kind regards,
 Christian

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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-11 Thread c_c

Hi,

Christian Reitwießner wrote:
 
 unfortunately without any feedback, I have now released evopedia 0.2.1,
 which fixes a single bug: the near articles feature should work now,
 if it did not already. 
 
 Well, I saw your site and realised that the English dump is 7 GB. I have a
8 GB card - but this would leave me with almost no space for anything else.
I wonder if there was a way of reducing the image sizes further by splitting
them into topics (maybe science / computers / physics etc).
 
 Otherwise I'll just have to buy another 8GB card - but the card swapping is
a little cumbersome. What do you think?
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Re: Evopedia 0.2.1

2009-08-11 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I agree with c_c... The 7GiB dump is just too big. Is it compressed? I
assume it's just a text dump, and the images are already thrown out.
Otherwise it would probably be far larger than 7GiB.
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